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Arthur T.
Oct 8, 2016, 10:04:23 PM10/8/16
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Title: Let Me Be
ttto: Let It Be
When you think that you have all the answers,
You think you should govern me.
That is when I tell you,
"Let me be."
So when I want alone time
And I'm tired of all your repartee
Will you please go off and
Let me be?
(Chorus:)
I decree, "I am free." Do not dare disagree.
Listen to my warning,
Let me be
You don't seem to understand that
You are not the boss of me.
That's why I must tell you,
"Let me be."
You won't like me when I'm angry;
That's one thing I'll guarantee.
Don't make us unhappy,
Let me be.
(Chorus)
You're still getting in my business.
You've not got the wit to flee.
Heed my admonition:
Let me be.
Ask the people who annoyed me,
You will find they all agree.
They all wish that they had
Let me be.
(Chorus)
My lyrics copyright 2016 by Arthur Tansky. License granted for
non-commercial, non-political archiving and performance as long as:
1. copyright notice is maintained, and
2. no money changes hands.
--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com
Guessing a lyricist's opinions from his songs is as futile as
guessing an author's opinions from his novels.
ttto: Let It Be
When you think that you have all the answers,
You think you should govern me.
That is when I tell you,
"Let me be."
So when I want alone time
And I'm tired of all your repartee
Will you please go off and
Let me be?
(Chorus:)
I decree, "I am free." Do not dare disagree.
Listen to my warning,
Let me be
You don't seem to understand that
You are not the boss of me.
That's why I must tell you,
"Let me be."
You won't like me when I'm angry;
That's one thing I'll guarantee.
Don't make us unhappy,
Let me be.
(Chorus)
You're still getting in my business.
You've not got the wit to flee.
Heed my admonition:
Let me be.
Ask the people who annoyed me,
You will find they all agree.
They all wish that they had
Let me be.
(Chorus)
My lyrics copyright 2016 by Arthur Tansky. License granted for
non-commercial, non-political archiving and performance as long as:
1. copyright notice is maintained, and
2. no money changes hands.
--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com
Guessing a lyricist's opinions from his songs is as futile as
guessing an author's opinions from his novels.
Kay Shapero
Oct 9, 2016, 12:29:47 AM10/9/16
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In article <s69jvb93vsf5dgchu...@4ax.com>,
art...@munged.invalid says...
--
Kay Shapero
FAQ at http://www.kayshapero.net/filkfaq.htm
Address munged, use kay at kayshapero extension as per website.
art...@munged.invalid says...
>
> Title: Let Me Be
> ttto: Let It Be
>
> When you think that you have all the answers,
> You think you should govern me.
> That is when I tell you,
> "Let me be."
>
Snerk! Love it.
> Title: Let Me Be
> ttto: Let It Be
>
> When you think that you have all the answers,
> You think you should govern me.
> That is when I tell you,
> "Let me be."
>
--
Kay Shapero
FAQ at http://www.kayshapero.net/filkfaq.htm
Address munged, use kay at kayshapero extension as per website.
Gary McGath
Oct 9, 2016, 6:18:05 AM10/9/16
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On 10/8/16 10:01 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
> Title: Let Me Be
> ttto: Let It Be
I mostly like it very much. The only thing is that the line "Do not dare
> Title: Let Me Be
> ttto: Let It Be
disagree" is jarring. People can peacefully disagree with me, even about
freedom.
--
Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
Arthur T.
Oct 9, 2016, 4:14:05 PM10/9/16
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In Message-ID:<ntd5gc$1ah$1...@dont-email.me>,
That was the last line I wrote. In this song I wasn't happy with
the repetition of the original. I was running low on rhymes for "be"
that also fit the scansion, and this was what I came up with that
most closely fit the meaning I was looking for.
I also meant it to be subtly different in context. The song is
about someone pushing back on others who are actively eroding
personal freedom. As such, I saw the "disagreement" as being acts
rather than statements. (Also, I expect some hyperbole from people in
that situation.)
The first two verses are milder than the following four. Would
that line have been less jarring if you first saw it after verses
four or six?
Gary McGath <ga...@REMOVEmcgathREMOVE.com> wrote:
>On 10/8/16 10:01 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
>> Title: Let Me Be
>> ttto: Let It Be
>
>I mostly like it very much. The only thing is that the line "Do not dare
>disagree" is jarring. People can peacefully disagree with me, even about
>freedom.
You raise a valid point, and I'll explain.
>On 10/8/16 10:01 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
>> Title: Let Me Be
>> ttto: Let It Be
>
>I mostly like it very much. The only thing is that the line "Do not dare
>disagree" is jarring. People can peacefully disagree with me, even about
>freedom.
That was the last line I wrote. In this song I wasn't happy with
the repetition of the original. I was running low on rhymes for "be"
that also fit the scansion, and this was what I came up with that
most closely fit the meaning I was looking for.
I also meant it to be subtly different in context. The song is
about someone pushing back on others who are actively eroding
personal freedom. As such, I saw the "disagreement" as being acts
rather than statements. (Also, I expect some hyperbole from people in
that situation.)
The first two verses are milder than the following four. Would
that line have been less jarring if you first saw it after verses
four or six?
Arthur T.
Oct 9, 2016, 6:08:20 PM10/9/16
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>On 10/8/16 10:01 PM, Arthur T. wrote:
>> Title: Let Me Be
>> ttto: Let It Be
>
>I mostly like it very much. The only thing is that the line "Do not dare
>disagree" is jarring. People can peacefully disagree with me, even about
>freedom.
I just realized that I posted this during the brouhaha regarding
>> Title: Let Me Be
>> ttto: Let It Be
>
>I mostly like it very much. The only thing is that the line "Do not dare
>disagree" is jarring. People can peacefully disagree with me, even about
>freedom.
Worldcon. That was pure coincidence, and it might affect how the song
is perceived.
Spear Carrier
Nov 19, 2016, 11:34:29 PM11/19/16
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New to the group and completely in love with this piece. With what's going on in our country today it's kind of apt. Thank you for sharing. I can't wait to use it against - er I mean, I can't wait to let someone hear it sung with luv.
Arthur T.
Nov 20, 2016, 1:24:37 AM11/20/16
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In
Message-ID:<aa107bae-cb73-4371...@googlegroups.com>,
Spear Carrier <de...@akashikonline.com> wrote:
>New to the group
Welcome to our little group. It was a bigger group a few years
ago, but that's true throughout Usenet.
How did you find us? Have you been active in filk? Have you
done anything I might have seen (or want to see)?
>and completely in love with this piece.
Thank you.
Message-ID:<aa107bae-cb73-4371...@googlegroups.com>,
Spear Carrier <de...@akashikonline.com> wrote:
>New to the group
Welcome to our little group. It was a bigger group a few years
ago, but that's true throughout Usenet.
How did you find us? Have you been active in filk? Have you
done anything I might have seen (or want to see)?
>and completely in love with this piece.
Spear Carrier
Nov 20, 2016, 10:33:09 AM11/20/16
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>
> Welcome to our little group. It was a bigger group a few years
> ago, but that's true throughout Usenet.
Thanks for the welcome! Yes, I noticed it was a little light on activity but that's actually a good thing for me. =^-^= And who knows. Maybe it'll grow again.
> Welcome to our little group. It was a bigger group a few years
> ago, but that's true throughout Usenet.
>
> How did you find us? Have you been active in filk? Have you
> done anything I might have seen (or want to see)?
My husband found this group because he was hunting down Mara Brener and her husband - we'd dearly love to hear a recording of them performing and can't seem to find anything. I want to learn her songs (long story).
I'm not sure I've done anything you'd like to see. LOL. I have a few things in a notebook, but only just got a musical instrument I could hope to play a month and a half ago. (An autoharp.) For occasional hobby I like to find recordings by filkers and give them music videos.
After the filk sing I had planned to post the lyrics to something I've been working on. =^-^= I hope that will be a worthy contribution to this place. Some of the things I found here are pretty boss.
Mark Mandel
Nov 20, 2016, 4:57:44 PM11/20/16
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Hi and welcome, Spear Carrier! We aren't competitive around here, and we all were beginners once. I'm looking forward to your work.
Mark Mandel
"The Filker with No Nickname"
Mark Mandel
"The Filker with No Nickname"
Spear Carrier
Nov 20, 2016, 10:23:40 PM11/20/16
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Why thank ya good sir! So far this place has definitely been a lucky find.
Arthur T.
Nov 20, 2016, 11:24:01 PM11/20/16
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In
Message-ID:<d16d4d96-dab2-479d...@googlegroups.com>,
no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
derogatory.
>I have a few things in a notebook, but only just got a musical instrument I could hope to play a month and a half ago. (An autoharp.)
I can't carry a tune, and I've never been able to play an
instrument. But I've been welcomed here, at house filks, and in con
filk rooms. We don't bite.
Message-ID:<d16d4d96-dab2-479d...@googlegroups.com>,
Spear Carrier <de...@akashikonline.com> wrote:
>I'm not sure I've done anything you'd like to see. LOL.
My early filks looked like they were someone's early filks. But
>I'm not sure I've done anything you'd like to see. LOL.
no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
derogatory.
>I have a few things in a notebook, but only just got a musical instrument I could hope to play a month and a half ago. (An autoharp.)
instrument. But I've been welcomed here, at house filks, and in con
filk rooms. We don't bite.
Mark Mandel
Nov 21, 2016, 1:25:13 PM11/21/16
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Oh, and about instruments: Lots of us sing AcapulcoXXXXXX a cappella. I'm way out of practice with my guitar, and l've generally left it at home on recent years and just used my voice.
And there's no barrier at all to joining in, in a filk circle, except the rare times when whoever's turn it is asks the rest of us not to. Even brand-new songs are often to familiar tunes, and it's easy to pick up the chorus.
OTOH, sometimes some of us play without singing: instrumental pieces on guitar, Celtic harp, harmonica (hard to sing and play at the same time!), you name it.
See you at the filk!
Mark
And there's no barrier at all to joining in, in a filk circle, except the rare times when whoever's turn it is asks the rest of us not to. Even brand-new songs are often to familiar tunes, and it's easy to pick up the chorus.
OTOH, sometimes some of us play without singing: instrumental pieces on guitar, Celtic harp, harmonica (hard to sing and play at the same time!), you name it.
See you at the filk!
Mark
Spear Carrier
Nov 21, 2016, 9:54:41 PM11/21/16
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On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 10:24:01 PM UTC-6, Arthur T. wrote:
> My early filks looked like they were someone's early filks. But
> no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
> obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
> derogatory.
That's one of the first things I've noticed with the filk community is the sense of friendship. It's all for fun, right?
> My early filks looked like they were someone's early filks. But
> no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
> obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
> derogatory.
> >I have a few things in a notebook, but only just got a musical instrument I could hope to play a month and a half ago. (An autoharp.)
>
> I can't carry a tune, and I've never been able to play an
> instrument. But I've been welcomed here, at house filks, and in con
> filk rooms. We don't bite.
Spear Carrier
Nov 21, 2016, 9:55:11 PM11/21/16
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-6, Mark Mandel wrote:
> Oh, and about instruments: Lots of us sing AcapulcoXXXXXX a cappella.
This. This needs to be a song.
> Oh, and about instruments: Lots of us sing AcapulcoXXXXXX a cappella.
Ron C
Nov 21, 2016, 10:32:46 PM11/21/16
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On 11/21/2016 9:54 PM, Spear Carrier wrote:
> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 10:24:01 PM UTC-6, Arthur T. wrote:
>
>> My early filks looked like they were someone's early filks. But
>> no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
>> obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
>> derogatory.
>
> That's one of the first things I've noticed with the filk community is the sense of friendship. It's all for fun, right?
Hmm, not sure. I was threatened with lawsuits for singing a posted filk
> On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 10:24:01 PM UTC-6, Arthur T. wrote:
>
>> My early filks looked like they were someone's early filks. But
>> no one said, "Yuck," and all of the suggested improvements were
>> obviously intended as helpful criticism, rather than anything
>> derogatory.
>
> That's one of the first things I've noticed with the filk community is the sense of friendship. It's all for fun, right?
song. [YMMV]
Lee Gold XP
Nov 21, 2016, 10:45:23 PM11/21/16
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On 11/21/2016 10:25 AM, Mark Mandel wrote:
> Lots of us sing AcapulcoXXXXXX a cappella.
I'm way out of practice with my guitar,
and l've generally left it at home on recent years and just used my voice.
I may be wrong but...
> Lots of us sing AcapulcoXXXXXX a cappella.
I'm way out of practice with my guitar,
and l've generally left it at home on recent years and just used my voice.
I think people singing a capella in a filk circle should start
by standing up (top get audience attention) and singing the first few
lines / stanza,
and then sitting down aftr the audience has hushed up and is listening.
--Lee
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 12:21:33 AM11/22/16
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 9:32:46 PM UTC-6, Ron C wrote:
>
> Hmm, not sure. I was threatened with lawsuits for singing a posted filk
> song. [YMMV]
> >
Seriously?! I mean, wow. WOW! Well, you have permission to sing mine.
>
> Hmm, not sure. I was threatened with lawsuits for singing a posted filk
> song. [YMMV]
> >
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 12:22:10 AM11/22/16
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 9:45:23 PM UTC-6, Lee Gold XP wrote:
> I may be wrong but...
> I think people singing a capella in a filk circle should start
> by standing up (top get audience attention) and singing the first few
> lines / stanza,
> and then sitting down aftr the audience has hushed up and is listening.
>
I certainly don't have the guts to do that.
> I may be wrong but...
> I think people singing a capella in a filk circle should start
> by standing up (top get audience attention) and singing the first few
> lines / stanza,
> and then sitting down aftr the audience has hushed up and is listening.
>
The filk sing at Archon had it so you had poker chips you threw into the ring to claim your next spot.
Arthur T.
Nov 22, 2016, 1:44:20 AM11/22/16
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In
Message-ID:<562b6dc8-f2e8-4e28...@googlegroups.com>,
Protocol differs, somewhat dependent on location. I expect Lee
was talking about Chaos Circles, rather than Bardic or, as in your
case, Poker Chip Bardic.
http://www.freemars.org/filk/circles.html
Message-ID:<562b6dc8-f2e8-4e28...@googlegroups.com>,
was talking about Chaos Circles, rather than Bardic or, as in your
case, Poker Chip Bardic.
http://www.freemars.org/filk/circles.html
Kay Shapero
Nov 22, 2016, 3:47:19 AM11/22/16
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In article <aa107bae-cb73-4371...@googlegroups.com>,
de...@akashikonline.com says...
should you find it of interest. (And if you're on Facebook, there's a
Filker group there too.) But stick around - we need more voices. :)
de...@akashikonline.com says...
>
> New to the group and completely in love with this piece. With what's going on in our country today it's kind of apt. Thank you for sharing. I can't wait to use it against - er I mean, I can't wait to let someone hear it sung with luv.
Welcome to the group! There's a FAQ file at the addy given below,
> New to the group and completely in love with this piece. With what's going on in our country today it's kind of apt. Thank you for sharing. I can't wait to use it against - er I mean, I can't wait to let someone hear it sung with luv.
should you find it of interest. (And if you're on Facebook, there's a
Filker group there too.) But stick around - we need more voices. :)
Gary McGath
Nov 22, 2016, 6:46:50 AM11/22/16
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for my song, I can just set the keyboard volume to maximum and hit a
chord. Gatherings vary in style, etiquette, and how aggressive you have
to be to get in a song.
You might get some amusement from the history of filk I put on the Web
last year.
http://www.mcgath.com/tst/
I talk about about the different regional styles. At least at one time
on the West Coast, singing could get very competitive. (Or so I was
told; I'm from the East myself.)
Lee Gold XP
Nov 22, 2016, 8:25:16 AM11/22/16
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Getting a Chaos Circle to hush up is a challenge.
I once started reciting a poem -- and got interrupted by a conversation
-- and had to explain that I was actually performing something and that
was why the words I was speaking scanned and rhymed. After that, I
learned to stand up.
I am very fond of Poker Chip Bardic.
In fact, I invented it.
--Lee
Lee Gold XP
Nov 22, 2016, 8:49:40 AM11/22/16
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On 11/22/2016 3:46 AM, Gary McGath wrote:
> At least at one time on the West Coast, singing could get very
> competitive. (Or so I was told; I'm from the East myself.)
I ran into highly competitive competitive Chaos Circles when venturing
> At least at one time on the West Coast, singing could get very
> competitive. (Or so I was told; I'm from the East myself.)
out of Southern Caliornia in the late 1980s -- to visit Silicon Valley,
farther north on the Pacific Coaast, the Midwest, and the East Coast..
A moment of silence -- and five or more singers would leap at it. I
dubbed it "Piranha Chaos." Things seem to be calmer now -- but then
Barry and I haven't gone traveling much lately as flying has gotten more
stressful.
My own filk history essay can be found at
http://www.conchord.org/xeno/filkhist.html
--Lee
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 10:47:07 AM11/22/16
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I looked at these, and the chaos circle sounds a little scary. =^-^=
With the house filk I attended, we sat in pretty much a rough circle (figure 8) and went clockwise. You either played, chose a subject or song, or passed.
With the house filk I attended, we sat in pretty much a rough circle (figure 8) and went clockwise. You either played, chose a subject or song, or passed.
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 11:11:03 AM11/22/16
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-6, Gary McGath wrote:
>
> You might get some amusement from the history of filk I put on the Web
> last year.
>
> http://www.mcgath.com/tst/
>
> I talk about about the different regional styles. At least at one time
> on the West Coast, singing could get very competitive. (Or so I was
> told; I'm from the East myself.)
>
Whoah. 129 pages. I've downloaded both versions - thank you! I look forward to putting it on the ereaders.
>
> You might get some amusement from the history of filk I put on the Web
> last year.
>
> http://www.mcgath.com/tst/
>
> I talk about about the different regional styles. At least at one time
> on the West Coast, singing could get very competitive. (Or so I was
> told; I'm from the East myself.)
>
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 11:11:43 AM11/22/16
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:25:16 AM UTC-6, Lee Gold XP wrote:
>
> I am very fond of Poker Chip Bardic.
> In fact, I invented it.
>
I'm honored! LOL!
>
> I am very fond of Poker Chip Bardic.
> In fact, I invented it.
>
The problem with poker chip bardic is you forget to return the chips when its over!
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 11:23:44 AM11/22/16
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It seems like most of the filk action happens on the West coast, although there seems to be some things on the East. In St. Louis, I've gathered that the filkers are more... underground? You don't see their activity on the internet, nor announcements for things. St. Louis is 3 hours from me, so it's a small drive to go a-filking, but a-filking we shall go a-filking we shall go, trum the drums and strum the chords a-filking we shall go.
I had read your article previously, and upon a quick re-read I once again noticed that you indicate that filking had faded in the 50's. But did it fade or did it simply go underground? Or transform? I wasn't even born yet so can only speculate with evil intent.
I was introduced to filking by a friend who'd bought a CD in the early 90', Freedom Flight & Fancy. She'd told me at the time that she'd thought she'd like the music, being an avid reader of oh... anything, but didn't like the style. I on the other hand fell directly in love, but it took me years to explore more into it because of the lack of being in contact with the outside world or what have you. The Elfquest CD was my second filk CD ever. I have the Elfquest CD, but alas Freedom Flight & Fancy was "borrowed" years ago which suggests someone out there also likes filking. LOL
I also thought the music was gone for the longest until circumstances firmly pushed me into dark corners of the universe. It's exciting to think I can (gasp) attend these things in person like I heard people do in the rare recording I managed to find over the years.
I had read your article previously, and upon a quick re-read I once again noticed that you indicate that filking had faded in the 50's. But did it fade or did it simply go underground? Or transform? I wasn't even born yet so can only speculate with evil intent.
I was introduced to filking by a friend who'd bought a CD in the early 90', Freedom Flight & Fancy. She'd told me at the time that she'd thought she'd like the music, being an avid reader of oh... anything, but didn't like the style. I on the other hand fell directly in love, but it took me years to explore more into it because of the lack of being in contact with the outside world or what have you. The Elfquest CD was my second filk CD ever. I have the Elfquest CD, but alas Freedom Flight & Fancy was "borrowed" years ago which suggests someone out there also likes filking. LOL
I also thought the music was gone for the longest until circumstances firmly pushed me into dark corners of the universe. It's exciting to think I can (gasp) attend these things in person like I heard people do in the rare recording I managed to find over the years.
Spear Carrier
Nov 22, 2016, 11:25:29 AM11/22/16
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:49:40 AM UTC-6, Lee Gold XP wrote:
>
> My own filk history essay can be found at
> http://www.conchord.org/xeno/filkhist.html
>
> --Lee
On a side note I hope to begin getting copies of Xenofilkia after this weekend. I thought about donating You Can't Make me to it. I am particularly looking for anything by Mara and Harry Brener to learn. It's a little important to me.
>
> My own filk history essay can be found at
> http://www.conchord.org/xeno/filkhist.html
>
> --Lee
Lee Gold XP
Nov 22, 2016, 3:20:23 PM11/22/16
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at the end of the evening when you're tired and want to go home / to
your hotel room.
But then I've had my car rear-ended a dozen times over the
not-quite-sixty years I've been driving.
--Lee
Lee Gold XP
Nov 22, 2016, 3:40:37 PM11/22/16
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On 11/22/2016 8:23 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
> It seems like most of the filk action happens on the West coast,
From a Los Angeles point of view, most of the filk action happens in
> It seems like most of the filk action happens on the West coast,
the Midwest and East Coast. We have
Consonance
Conflikt
The Midwest has
Filk Ontario
OVFF
The East Coast has
GAfilk
Conterpoint or Concertino or Contata
I fondly remember the filking at Arisia and Boskone.
Loscon and Westercon aren't nearly as good.
I don't know about fannish conventions filk tracks in the Midwest near you.
> although there seems to be some things on the East.
> In St. Louis, I've gathered that the filkers are more... underground?
But perhaps filkers should show up at a concom meeting and beg for a room.
> You don't see their activity on the internet, nor announcements for things.
> St. Louis is 3 hours from me, so it's a small drive to go a-filking,
> but a-filking we shall go a-filking we shall go,
than St. Louis?
> I had read your article previously,
> and upon a quick re-read I once again noticed that you indicate that
> filking had faded in the 50's. But did it fade or did it simply go
underground?
> Or transform? I wasn't even born yet so can only speculate with evil
intent.
regions
and behaved differently in each one.
You'll find stuff in there about filking in the 1950s.
--Lee
Tim Merrigan
Nov 22, 2016, 4:16:26 PM11/22/16
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 12:40:36 -0800, Lee Gold XP <lee....@ca.rr.com>
wrote:
>On 11/22/2016 8:23 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
>> It seems like most of the filk action happens on the West coast,
>
> From a Los Angeles point of view, most of the filk action happens in
>the Midwest and East Coast. We have
> Consonance
> Conflikt
>The Midwest has
> Filk Ontario
> OVFF
>The East Coast has
> GAfilk
> Conterpoint or Concertino or Contata
>
>I fondly remember the filking at Arisia and Boskone.
>Loscon and Westercon aren't nearly as good.
>I don't know about fannish conventions filk tracks in the Midwest near you.
This makes it sound as though the only "filk action" is at
conventions. What about regularly schedualed and ad hock filk
parties, newsletters, on-line activities, etc.
>
>
>
>> although there seems to be some things on the East.
>> In St. Louis, I've gathered that the filkers are more... underground?
>
>I remember a filksing in a restroom annex.
>
>But perhaps filkers should show up at a concom meeting and beg for a room.
>
>> You don't see their activity on the internet, nor announcements for things.
>> St. Louis is 3 hours from me, so it's a small drive to go a-filking,
>> but a-filking we shall go a-filking we shall go,
>
>I know a filker in Manchester, MO. Is that farther or nearer to you
>than St. Louis?
>
>> I had read your article previously,
> > and upon a quick re-read I once again noticed that you indicate that
> > filking had faded in the 50's. But did it fade or did it simply go
>underground?
> > Or transform? I wasn't even born yet so can only speculate with evil
>intent.
>
>As far as I can tell, filking in the 1950s was split up in different
>regions
>and behaved differently in each one.
>
>>> My own filk history essay can be found at
>>> http://www.conchord.org/xeno/filkhist.html
>
>You'll find stuff in there about filking in the 1950s.
>
>--Lee
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Tim Merrigan
wrote:
>On 11/22/2016 8:23 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
>> It seems like most of the filk action happens on the West coast,
>
> From a Los Angeles point of view, most of the filk action happens in
>the Midwest and East Coast. We have
> Consonance
> Conflikt
>The Midwest has
> Filk Ontario
> OVFF
>The East Coast has
> GAfilk
> Conterpoint or Concertino or Contata
>
>I fondly remember the filking at Arisia and Boskone.
>Loscon and Westercon aren't nearly as good.
>I don't know about fannish conventions filk tracks in the Midwest near you.
conventions. What about regularly schedualed and ad hock filk
parties, newsletters, on-line activities, etc.
>
>
>
>> although there seems to be some things on the East.
>> In St. Louis, I've gathered that the filkers are more... underground?
>
>I remember a filksing in a restroom annex.
>
>But perhaps filkers should show up at a concom meeting and beg for a room.
>
>> You don't see their activity on the internet, nor announcements for things.
>> St. Louis is 3 hours from me, so it's a small drive to go a-filking,
>> but a-filking we shall go a-filking we shall go,
>
>I know a filker in Manchester, MO. Is that farther or nearer to you
>than St. Louis?
>
>> I had read your article previously,
> > and upon a quick re-read I once again noticed that you indicate that
> > filking had faded in the 50's. But did it fade or did it simply go
>underground?
> > Or transform? I wasn't even born yet so can only speculate with evil
>intent.
>
>As far as I can tell, filking in the 1950s was split up in different
>regions
>and behaved differently in each one.
>
>>> My own filk history essay can be found at
>>> http://www.conchord.org/xeno/filkhist.html
>
>You'll find stuff in there about filking in the 1950s.
>
>--Lee
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation, from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.
Feel free to use the above variant pledge in your own postings.
Tim Merrigan
Lee Gold XP
Nov 22, 2016, 6:16:30 PM11/22/16
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On 11/22/2016 1:17 PM, Tim Merrigan wrote:
>
> This makes it sound as though the only "filk action" is at
> conventions. What about regularly schedualed and ad hoc filk
>
> This makes it sound as though the only "filk action" is at
> parties, newsletters, on-line activities, etc.
Los Angeles Filkers Anonymous has a monthly housefilk.
http://www.conchord.org/lafaad.html
March, 2017 will be in Garden Grove or Woodland Hills.
MASSFILC meets regularly in the Boston area.
http://www.massfilc.org/
There's also rec.music.filk and alt.music.filk
And on Facebook there's Filker.
And, of course, Xenofilkia comes out every other month.
http://www.conchord.org/xeno/ -- snailmailed or emailed
I don't know what happens in other areas.
--Lee
Gary McGath
Nov 22, 2016, 6:33:34 PM11/22/16
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On 11/22/16 10:47 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
> I looked at these, and the chaos circle sounds a little scary. =^-^=
>
> With the house filk I attended, we sat in pretty much a rough circle (figure 8) and went clockwise. You either played, chose a subject or song, or passed.
>
At MASSFILC meetings, we normally do chaos, but the number of people is
> I looked at these, and the chaos circle sounds a little scary. =^-^=
>
> With the house filk I attended, we sat in pretty much a rough circle (figure 8) and went clockwise. You either played, chose a subject or song, or passed.
>
generally small enough that it's not hard for anyone to get a song in.
Sometimes it's hard to get people to shut up on conversational tangents
when you're trying to sing, though. :)
Ron C
Nov 22, 2016, 7:10:56 PM11/22/16
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Thanks for the permission.
==
Later...
Ron C
--
Lee Gold XP
Nov 23, 2016, 12:53:57 AM11/23/16
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On 11/22/2016 4:10 PM, Ron C wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 12:21 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
>> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 9:32:46 PM UTC-6, Ron C wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm, not sure. I was threatened with lawsuits for singing a posted filk
>>> song. [YMMV]
>>>>
>>
>> Seriously?! I mean, wow. WOW! Well, you have permission to sing mine.
You have the right to sing my lyrics in circle.
> On 11/22/2016 12:21 AM, Spear Carrier wrote:
>> On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 9:32:46 PM UTC-6, Ron C wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm, not sure. I was threatened with lawsuits for singing a posted filk
>>> song. [YMMV]
>>>>
>>
>> Seriously?! I mean, wow. WOW! Well, you have permission to sing mine.
--Lee
Spear Carrier
Nov 23, 2016, 2:00:35 PM11/23/16
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On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 2:40:37 PM UTC-6, Lee Gold XP wrote:
> From a Los Angeles point of view, most of the filk action happens in
> the Midwest and East Coast. We have
> Consonance
> Conflikt
> The Midwest has
> Filk Ontario
> OVFF
> The East Coast has
> GAfilk
> Conterpoint or Concertino or Contata
All of which are very far from me. Sigh. I'm located near the middle of the states here, in the south of Illinois. I'm about 3 to 4 hours south east from St. Louis as the traffic flows.
> From a Los Angeles point of view, most of the filk action happens in
> the Midwest and East Coast. We have
> Consonance
> Conflikt
> The Midwest has
> Filk Ontario
> OVFF
> The East Coast has
> GAfilk
> Conterpoint or Concertino or Contata
Archon has a lot of filk happening there; That's where I got to attend my first filk sing. Alexander James was in attendance and had a concert, so I finally got to attend something like that as well. =^-^= The St. Louis people who run the filk element at the con hold house filks every other month, but they don't publicly announce it or anything. So if you're not on their mailing list you don't know where it's gonna be to go. It's a start.
But that's it as far as I know. And if I hadn't managed to go to Archon I would never know about any of it. Last year was my first year. Fun con!
Keeping in mind we don't do a lot by way of conventions or things here in the first place. There used to be a growing convention an hour south of me years ago. It was sci-fi, anime and fantasy. It was literally run out of town, so now it happens about an hour in a different direction and it's getting very big. But no filking. I asked. :-p That generation doesn't even know what filking *is*.
> But perhaps filkers should show up at a concom meeting and beg for a room.
> I know a filker in Manchester, MO. Is that farther or nearer to you
> than St. Louis?
Gary McGath
Nov 23, 2016, 6:31:44 PM11/23/16
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On 11/23/16 2:00 PM, Spear Carrier wrote:
>> I know a filker in Manchester, MO. Is that farther or nearer to you
>> than St. Louis?
>
> I think that may be farther. I'm closer to Paducah, KY.
Chambanacon has a lot of filk, or did the last I heard. It's about 240
>> I know a filker in Manchester, MO. Is that farther or nearer to you
>> than St. Louis?
>
> I think that may be farther. I'm closer to Paducah, KY.
miles from Paducah. A long trip, but easily doable in a day.
Rich Brown
Nov 23, 2016, 7:30:19 PM11/23/16
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:16:29 -0800, Lee Gold XP wrote:
---snip---
---snip---
>
> I don't know what happens in other areas.
>
> --Lee
As another example we have a monthly housefilk in Minneapolis.
> I don't know what happens in other areas.
>
> --Lee
Kay Shapero
Nov 23, 2016, 9:15:42 PM11/23/16
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In article <1ab13024-cce2-400a...@googlegroups.com>,
de...@akashikonline.com says...
>
> I wonder if that would work. Or they could just get together and filk
> in the lobby.
That's what we used to do in the early '70s when I started attending
conventions - mind you a lot depended on the tolerance of the hotel
management. Once held a sing that migrated all over the hotel and wound
up at the convention center across the street. Which had a piano, so we
didn't mind. :)
de...@akashikonline.com says...
>
> I wonder if that would work. Or they could just get together and filk
> in the lobby.
conventions - mind you a lot depended on the tolerance of the hotel
management. Once held a sing that migrated all over the hotel and wound
up at the convention center across the street. Which had a piano, so we
didn't mind. :)
Ron C
Nov 23, 2016, 9:28:46 PM11/23/16
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since that con in New Jersey many years
ago. Only spent a few hours there because
I had a live sound job I had to rush off to.
Spear Carrier
Nov 28, 2016, 1:29:53 AM11/28/16
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On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 5:31:44 PM UTC-6, Gary McGath wrote:
>
> Chambanacon has a lot of filk, or did the last I heard. It's about 240
> miles from Paducah. A long trip, but easily doable in a day.
Oh shoot! I got all excited and saw it happens at the exact same weekend as Starbase Indy!
>
> Chambanacon has a lot of filk, or did the last I heard. It's about 240
> miles from Paducah. A long trip, but easily doable in a day.
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