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Shabtai Zisel, Stockholm, 1 April 2017

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Stephan Pickering

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:12:27 PM4/1/17
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Stockholm, Sweden
Stockholm Waterfront 1 April 2017

1. Things Have Changed
2. Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right
3. Highway 61 Revisited
4. Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
5. Full Moon And Empty Arms
6. High Water (For Charley Patton)
7. Melancholy Mood
8. Duquesne Whistle
9. Love Sick
10. Tangled Up In Blue
11. Pay In Blood
12. Standing In The Doorway
13. Scarlet Town
14. I Could Have Told You
15. Desolation Row
16. Soon After Midnight
17. All Or Nothing At All
18. Long And Wasted Years
19. Autumn Leaves
[encore]
20. Blowin' In The Wind
21. Why Try To Change Me Now?
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the enunciation for 'Desolation Row' was as biting as 1966...

STEPHAN PICKERING / חפץ ח"ם בן אברהם
Torah אלילה Yehu'di Apikores / Philologia Kabbalistica Speculativa Researcher
לחיות זמן רב ולשגשג
THE KABBALAH FRACTALS PROJECT

Will Dockery

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:22:45 PM4/1/17
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Great to see Dylan still rolling...

M. Rick

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:30:45 PM4/1/17
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Is this an April Fool's Joke? There was no Shabtai Zisel concert in Stockholm.

Rachel

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:33:10 PM4/1/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 4:30:45 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:
> Is this an April Fool's Joke? There was no Shabtai Zisel concert in Stockholm.

Shabtai Zisel is at home with his wife keeping her company and taking care of her needs.

Grave Digger

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:41:13 PM4/1/17
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>>Shabtai Zisel is at home with his wife keeping her company and taking care of her needs.>>

And...Could you tell me what her needs may be?

GD


M. Rick

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:47:36 PM4/1/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 4:22:45 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> Great to see Dylan still rolling...

Great to see you forgot to promote your music on a discussion group about Bob Dylan. Was that an April Fool's joke as well?

Rachel

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Apr 1, 2017, 7:55:47 PM4/1/17
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cock her till the cows come home

Rachel

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Apr 1, 2017, 8:17:05 PM4/1/17
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she craves your sperm on a conscious level

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 1, 2017, 9:02:56 PM4/1/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 4:30:45 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:
> Is this an April Fool's Joke? There was no Shabtai Zisel concert in Stockholm.

Silence yourself. Shabtai Zisel / 'Bob Dylan' gave a phenomenal performance in Stockholm.
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Rachel

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Apr 1, 2017, 9:06:17 PM4/1/17
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how do you know it was phenomenal? were you there?

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 1, 2017, 9:52:53 PM4/1/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 6:06:17 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:


>
> how do you know it was phenomenal? were you there?

Look, analretentive: do you know the meaning of the words 'electronic recording'? or if multisyllables are difficult for your trollery, how about 'tape'?

Rachel

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Apr 1, 2017, 10:57:27 PM4/1/17
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so you heard it then

NancyGene

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Apr 2, 2017, 10:49:09 AM4/2/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 11:12:27 PM UTC, Stephan Pickering / Tutti Frutti Yehu'di copied the Bob Dylan set list.

"Chris" posted this list hours before you did, Dummy. Read the other messages before you post.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 2, 2017, 11:17:12 AM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 7:49:09 AM UTC-7, Troll wrote:
> On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 11:12:27 PM UTC, Stephan Pickering / Tutti Frutti Yehu'di copied the Bob Dylan set list.
>
> "Chris" posted this list hours before you did, Dummy. Read the other messages before you post.

name:
contact address:
telephone numbeer:

I copied nothing, because, while on the telephone, I wrote down the sequence of the performance. This troll is a liar, an antisemite, who has fabricated, knowingly and deliberately, slanderous templates for his salacious phantasies. Hiding behind aliases, like 'michaelw', who was caught and legally ensnared, this troll is a chronic mosquito.

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 11:36:57 AM4/2/17
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It seems like everybody today that is not on my side is labeled an anti-Semite,a bully,a racist ,misogynist, xenophobic, homophobic or a fascist just because they don't believe in the others twisted point of view.
I'm with you ,Nancy .

everybody needs to get together and try to love one another right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3W8gHB-7PU

GD

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 12:16:17 PM4/2/17
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you've never heard of human contact?

Will Dockery

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Apr 2, 2017, 1:27:24 PM4/2/17
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 7:47:36 PM UTC-4, M. Rick wrote:
> On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 4:22:45 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > Great to see Dylan still rolling...
>
> Great to see you forgot to promote your music

I very rarely do that here, anyway, so it isn't a matter of forgetting, but simply not doing it.

There are a great number of threads being posted that have nothing to do with Dylan anyway, here. Are you going to track every one down or are you just singling out my one post?

:)

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 1:32:49 PM4/2/17
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but i have really nice toilet paper, so don't worry about, and other people can hug me while they pop boners, don't worry about it. and dr. reuben can hand me tissues. don't worry about it.

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 1:46:12 PM4/2/17
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> you've never heard of human contact?

That concept has to be relativity new....Let me check my smartphone.no..Nothing happening there.
Is this human contact jive sanitary...do I need a Trojan?
Can't we do this on skype with one hand left on the keyboard and the other hand freelancing?

"they say every man needs protection"

GD

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 1:48:11 PM4/2/17
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His music is good and that's better than most of the sounds floating 'round here.

GD

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 2:30:28 PM4/2/17
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what are you doing playing on the computer i thought you had a business to run while i sit here and wait for you and work and suffer

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 2:34:01 PM4/2/17
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>
> what are you doing playing on the computer i thought you had a business to run while i sit here and wait for you and work and suffer

Baby...

we all work and suffer....it's just that I keep one hand waving free

GD

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 2:40:51 PM4/2/17
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yes, but we could motivate help and support each other, be a team, btw aren't you supposed to be on stage right now i'm confused

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 2:47:23 PM4/2/17
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The band is warming up...I don't need no fucking rehearsals I'm always ready to go .

I have some backstage tickets waiting for you at the VIP desk...just tell em that you might know so and so.

GD

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 2, 2017, 4:19:28 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:36:57 AM UTC-7, Grave Digger wrote:
>

>
> everybody needs to get together and try to love one another right now.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3W8gHB-7PU
>
> GD

Shalom & Boker tov...I am not sure if you've changed your Depends recently, but you are babbling. You are attempting to get justification from a liar who has fabricated a scenario about my life and family, with NO basis in actual fact, who, like you, hides behind an alias (in his case, several for the past decade) and (multiple) fake e-address(es). It is not a question of agreeing with your 'side', or even disagreeing with your 'side'; so far, I have seen no coherent explanation from you, but your chronic embrace of your boring whines.
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Will Dockery

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Apr 2, 2017, 5:25:40 PM4/2/17
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Thanks Grave Digger, check out what I'm listening to today, somewhat Dylan related since he was touted as a "New Dylan" in 1973:

https://youtu.be/KLr_eN8KvaM

"Who's the last of the rock stars?" -Elliott Murphy

M. Rick

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Apr 2, 2017, 6:26:48 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> I very rarely do that here, anyway, so it isn't a matter of forgetting, but simply not doing it.

I'll try to remind you to forget.

>There are a great number of threads being posted that have nothing to do with Dylan anyway, here.

This thread, for instance -- it's about Shabtai Zisel.

>Are you going to track every one down or are you just singling out my one post?

I'm going to track every one down.

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 6:50:54 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > I very rarely do that here, anyway, so it isn't a matter of forgetting, but simply not doing it.
>
> I'll try to remind you to forget.

I keep forgetting to go for a walk and ride the bike. :-(((

Rachel

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Apr 2, 2017, 6:52:59 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:50:54 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > I very rarely do that here, anyway, so it isn't a matter of forgetting, but simply not doing it.
> >
> > I'll try to remind you to forget.
>
> I keep forgetting to go for a walk and ride the bike. :-(((

it would make me so much happier :-((( :)

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 7:01:12 PM4/2/17
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>>Shabtai Zisel.<<

I don't even know what shabtai zisel is....Pretty sure it's never been in a Dylan tune. And if it hasn't I really don't give a fuck.

GD


Will Dockery

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Apr 2, 2017, 7:09:32 PM4/2/17
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Good, M Rick, that means you'll be finding someone else to harass besides me.

😀

Grave Digger

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Apr 2, 2017, 8:01:23 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Good, M Rick, that means you'll be finding someone else to harass besides me.
>
> 😀

Hope it ain't me:)

"Go get me my pistol, babe
Honey, I can't tell right from wrong."

GD

NancyGene

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Apr 2, 2017, 8:07:39 PM4/2/17
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Stephan Pickering / Tutti Frutti Yehu'di oozed:

>...You are attempting to get justification from a liar who has fabricated a scenario about my life and family, with NO basis in actual fact,

Regrettably, almost everything you have written about yourself has been a lie and what others have written about you has been the truth. Karma is a bitch.

Will Dockery

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Apr 2, 2017, 8:13:15 PM4/2/17
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I doubt you'll have a problem with M. Rick, GD.

He tends to try to pick a fight with me here about every six months or so...

:)

Will Dockery

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Apr 4, 2017, 11:52:29 AM4/4/17
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Great line.

After what happened with Lennon two years later I'm glad Dylan kept a pistol handy.

M. Rick

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Apr 4, 2017, 1:29:40 PM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 8:52:29 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> After what happened with Lennon two years later I'm glad Dylan kept a pistol handy.

Did Dylan say he started carrying gun or are you quoting lyrics from a song that doesn't necessarily have any connection with Dylan's gun habits?

Grave Digger

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Apr 4, 2017, 2:18:00 PM4/4/17
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Like Babs and all the rest Dylan has protectors....but i'm sure he keeps a thirty-eight under his pillow .They say that a man can't give his name out to bad company...and these are strange fucking days.
Dylan is a boxer...but if need be he'd blow your fucking brains out.I'd be disappointed if he didn't


GD

Will Dockery

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Apr 4, 2017, 2:41:38 PM4/4/17
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I think Dylan first mentioned getting a gun in Chronicles, I'll check.

:)

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 4, 2017, 5:43:23 PM4/4/17
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Shalom & Erev tov...the troll is a documentable liar, easily proven by way of a legal deposition.

this is what is needed:

troll's name:
troll's verifiable mailing address:
troll's verifiable contact telephone:

The name needed is not the 4-5 aliases this antisemite hides behind. That these
three items will not be forthcoming from him is part of his delusion, his evasions, his fabrications. A small example: I have before me a signed photo given to me in January 1974 by Gershom Scholem's supervised Ph.D. student, the bilingual Morton Smith. Where did it come from? The troll's chronic whining is not acceptable.

Grave Digger

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Apr 4, 2017, 5:51:13 PM4/4/17
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What the fuck does that mean?

Don't you think that you would find more comfort on the other side of the avenue

GD

Will Dockery

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Apr 4, 2017, 7:04:33 PM4/4/17
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Stephan is defending himself against the personal attacks and cyberbully tactics many posters have used against him here in the past year.

If his methods help wipe out these malicious pests, then more power to him, Stephan Pickering is one of the good guys.

:)

Grave Digger

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Apr 4, 2017, 7:24:27 PM4/4/17
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Cool

GD

M. Rick

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Apr 4, 2017, 10:41:01 PM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 4:04:33 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> If his methods help wipe out these malicious pests

All of you should be wiped off this group. But nobody said life was fair.

M. Rick

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Apr 4, 2017, 10:49:41 PM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 11:41:38 AM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> I think Dylan first mentioned getting a gun in Chronicles, I'll check.

Did he mention carrying a pistol? You said Dylan "kept a pistol handy" referring to the years before Lennon's murder, i.e. Dylan carried a pistol on his body at all times. I'm wondering where you got that from. You also seem to suggest that carrying a pistol would have prevented such a murder. If you recall Lennon was shot in the back. There's no reason why the same thing couldn't happen to Dylan with or without his pistols. But let's return to the point: where you learned that Dylan was carrying a pistol.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 4, 2017, 11:32:15 PM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 7:41:01 PM UTC-7, M. Rick Troll wrote:
>
> All of you should be wiped off this group. But nobody said life was fair.

You have never demonstrated an ability to coherently discuss the CHaBaD paradigms of Shabtai Zisel's TEMPEST, e.g., or any of his mythopoesis, for that matter. You posture like some genuflecting acolyte of Bannon (do you awake each a.m. yearning for autofallatio?). Your worship of Julius Streicher is, to paraphrase Samuel Beckett in 1970, an unnecessary (yet predictable, in your case) stain on silence and no-thing-ness.

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Will Dockery

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Apr 4, 2017, 11:46:50 PM4/4/17
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M. Rick seems so angry tonight.

:)

Rachel

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Apr 4, 2017, 11:58:19 PM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 8:46:50 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> M. Rick seems so angry tonight.
>
> :)

dylan said about liking guns and thinking he had a few of them around (in print) many years before chronicles.

i think it was in NDH, the book, which i bought and first looked through in 1988/89. but i'm not 100% sure.

but way before chronicles, if he said anything in chronicles at all, i don't recall.

M. Rick doesn't seem angry to me at all.

he seems.....delightful! :)

i thought we were all friends here...? :-/ (having so much trouble with neighbors. :-((( )

Grave Digger

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Apr 5, 2017, 12:10:06 AM4/5/17
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You must be speaking of another rick

Will Dockery

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Apr 5, 2017, 8:15:57 AM4/5/17
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Okay, I assume you don't read the posts M. Rick makes to me then.

:)

Rachel

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Apr 5, 2017, 8:37:53 AM4/5/17
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stop trolling

Will Dockery

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Apr 5, 2017, 9:04:29 AM4/5/17
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That's pretty funny coming from you.

:)

Grave Digger

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Apr 5, 2017, 9:10:13 AM4/5/17
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i'm pretty sure he's also thrown some knives at me...
And I don't even wanna talk about The "Just"

GD

Will Dockery

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Apr 5, 2017, 12:50:26 PM4/5/17
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Thanks Stephan.

YOU nailed the M. Rick troll well.

:)

Willie

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Apr 5, 2017, 1:34:37 PM4/5/17
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I don't see M. Rick as mean-spirited at all. He's written some of the cleverest and funniest posts I've read. I admit that I immediately stop reading most of the contentious posts, but he seems in no way a bickering troll (whatever that is).

Will Dockery

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Apr 5, 2017, 4:38:56 PM4/5/17
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Willie, I'm referring to M. Rick's pattern of coming up with an attack against me personally every few months.

Whatever he does outside of that is lost for me since I ignore his posts because of that, unless he comes directly at me.

:)

Willie

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Apr 5, 2017, 5:50:14 PM4/5/17
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Yeah, he was rude to you. And now I've found what Stephan was talking about with the Streicher/Beckett remark. He's an M. Rick response to Don (later to become Really Real) Freeman in 2005:

>What a solid, virile, well hung man Saddam is.
So was Streicher. [M. Rick responded]

M. Rick

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Apr 5, 2017, 6:38:26 PM4/5/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
> Yeah, he was rude to you.

One of the abusive posters here suggested that a "malicious pest" be wiped off the group. And so I responded by saying all abusive posters deserve to be wiped off the group. That includes the bigoted Shabtai slinger and his accomplices. Sorry if that sounds rude.

>And now I've found what Stephan was talking about with the Streicher/Beckett remark. He's an M. Rick response to Don (later to become Really Real) Freeman in 2005:
>
> >What a solid, virile, well hung man Saddam is.
> So was Streicher. [M. Rick responded]

I guess you missed the sarcasm.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 5, 2017, 6:47:11 PM4/5/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 3:38:26 PM UTC-7, M. Rick Troll wrote:

> One of the abusive posters here suggested that a "malicious pest" be wiped off the group. And so I responded by saying all abusive posters deserve to be wiped off the group. That includes the bigoted Shabtai slinger and his accomplices. Sorry if that sounds rude.

Predictably, you just can't control your antiyehu'dit hatreds. It is not 'rude', but innane. You never attempt critical thinking, and dialogue, but propagate the same vacuities. One correction to your screed: a Yehu'di is a witness (beginning 1312 BCE with Sinai), and it is not possible for a Torah Yehu'di to be 'bigoted'.

Grave Digger

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Apr 5, 2017, 6:48:45 PM4/5/17
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> I guess you missed the sarcasm.

----

Do I need a visa?

GD

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 5, 2017, 7:07:44 PM4/5/17
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No, a used roll of Charmin.

NancyGene

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Apr 5, 2017, 7:16:18 PM4/5/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 11:04:33 PM UTC, Will Dockery wrote:

>Stephan is defending himself against the personal attacks and cyberbully tactics many posters have used against him here in the past year.

Pickering has been the target of the righteous for years. He abuses lists, flings his insults at others and then cries when people show him to be mentally and physically a sleaze.

> If his methods help wipe out these malicious pests, then more power to him, Stephan Pickering is one of the good guys.

He should wipe himself and then wipe himself out. Stephan Pickering under no possible definition qualifies as a good guy or even endurable. How do you feel about incest? Stephan Pickering thinks it is acceptable and appropriate.
http://www.onlykent.com/20100713/aimee-l-sword-9-year-prison-sentence-for-incest/
“Actually, what she and her son need to do are to sit down (and not with pseudoscientific pharmacracy 'psychiatrists' or 'psychologists') with each other, and talk. For the legal system to interfere is nothing short of ridiculous -- why? Show one the scientific evidence that the 'incest taboo' is scientifically valid. I believe there are dangers with recessive genes (look at Darwin's family, e.g.), but this is a matter between two human beings. I find the entire matter rife with contradictions: a young man is not 'raped', and the dynamics of the relationship have not been satisfactorily elucidated. “ Stephan Pickering / Chofetz Chayim ben-Avraham

The Pickering Family History?

Grave Digger

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Apr 5, 2017, 7:17:02 PM4/5/17
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> No, a used roll of Charmin.>>


Did you say cinnamon roll?
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The taxman wasn't too mean today....So I guess I'll live for another day.

GD




Will Dockery

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Apr 5, 2017, 7:46:02 PM4/5/17
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Thanks, Willie... tell you what, if M. Rick comes up with anything worth reading ion the future, let me know.

Not holding my breath.

:)

--
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/D3MK4_6OzRs/6w8kU6R9AAAJ

"Signposts on the Outskirts" a poem by Will Dockery, planned music epic (rock opera) starring Ashlen Brooke Fleck, Drake Pace, Brian Mallard, Robert Wright & Jack Snipe coming in 2017. :D

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 5, 2017, 7:52:56 PM4/5/17
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Shalom & Erev tov, Will...the kind words, chaver/friend, are appreciated. You will note the troll is a liar, and illiterate. He cites a case from 2010, then compounds his persistent slanders against my family, now advancing the idea of our being participants in 'incest'. What I wrote in 2010 is ethically viable, and carefully worded. Taking it out-of-context is ludicrous.

The troll will not provide his:

1) verifiable name
2) verifiable contact address
3) verifiable contact telephone number

Will, we are dealing here with a cyberstalker, who makes a fetish of being a phantasist.

Grave Digger

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Apr 5, 2017, 8:04:34 PM4/5/17
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brother I'm still gonna buy your book. I told this friend of mine yesterday that I would a copy of his CD when it's released. I told him that I may not listen to it...He said as long as you pay the price of admission it's all good.
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BTW---Nice poem.

GD

NancyGene

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Apr 5, 2017, 8:36:33 PM4/5/17
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Stephan Pickering / Tutti Frutti Yehu’di regurgitated:

> never attempt critical thinking, and dialogue, but propagate the same vacuities.
You never write anything original; you steal, plagiarize or use the former over and over and over…

> One correction to your screed: a Yehu'di is a witness (beginning 1312 BCE with Sinai), and it is not possible for a Torah Yehu'di to be 'bigoted'.
The rule you just made up is disproved by your own acts. You are more of a propagandist than a witness. One man cult.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 5, 2017, 9:10:48 PM4/5/17
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Shalom & Erev tov, Will...I went back, re/read some of your notes of last year about the pattern of cyberstalking lying trolls. The troll here thrives on creating nationalsozialisten phantasies behind aliases. And, rather than provide information for legal/moral disproving of the bigot lies about me or my maternal/paternal families (about which he knows nothing because none of them would talk to him), he just hurls more rhetoric in pathetic displays of tantrums. These fits of his hysteria are linked to what Jacques Lacan called 'mirror projections', i.e. the troll is so caught up in his lies he is, basically, holding up a mirror to his own delusionary mind, then saying 'it's not me, but you'...or, 'what you have researched and published since 1970 is not you', but someone else...it is a merry-go-round of calculated bigotry...as you wrote last year, and communicated to me, the cyberstalking lying trolls are not capable of being rational or honest. One of my children thinks this troll may have severe brain lesions, explaining that what he writes sounds like the sputtering of someone who is brain-damaged. We'll have to add this troll to our archive of cyberian frauds.

Kol tuv / be well, Will.

Willie

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Apr 5, 2017, 9:30:07 PM4/5/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 6:38:26 PM UTC-4, M. Rick wrote:
> > >What a solid, virile, well hung man Saddam is.
> > So was Streicher. [M. Rick responded]
>
> I guess you missed the sarcasm.

Wait, *I* was being, if not sarcastic, at least ironic here. You think that I think you're a fan of Julius Streicher?

M. Rick

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Apr 5, 2017, 10:09:28 PM4/5/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 6:30:07 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
> Wait, *I* was being, if not sarcastic, at least ironic here. You think that I think you're a fan of Julius Streicher?

I wasn't sure. I don't think Pickering got the name Streicher from an ancient post of mine (which indicates zero support for Nazis). His names, terms and insults are pretty much interchangeable, from what I've read.

M. Rick

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Apr 5, 2017, 10:18:41 PM4/5/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 4:46:02 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> Thanks, Willie... tell you what, if M. Rick comes up with anything worth reading ion the future, let me know.

I’d like to know how you know that Dylan was carrying a pistol in 1978 or earlier.

Willie

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Apr 5, 2017, 10:25:33 PM4/5/17
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I didn't see what he was referring to, so I searched RMD for it and found that 2005 post, the whole thread of which amused me.

Will Dockery

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Apr 6, 2017, 12:49:25 AM4/6/17
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Dylan wrote about his guns in Chronicles.

M. Rick

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Apr 6, 2017, 2:16:06 PM4/6/17
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On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 7:25:33 PM UTC-7, Willie wrote:
> I didn't see what he was referring to, so I searched RMD for it and found that 2005 post, the whole thread of which amused me.

My comment was a play on words. Don Freeman said Saddam Hussein was “well hung” (talking about Hussein’s penis). I said so was Streicher – well hung (hanged) for his crimes. This was a couple of years before they hanged Hussein.

NancyGene

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Apr 6, 2017, 5:45:47 PM4/6/17
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Stephan Pickering, liar and degenerate, wrote:

> Will...the kind words, chaver/friend, are appreciated.
More so because he is your only friend. People who actually know you dislike you even more.

> the idea of our being participants in 'incest'. What I wrote in 2010 is ethically viable, and carefully worded. Taking it out-of-context is ludicrous.
Word for word what you wrote in reply to an article about incest between mother and son. This kind of relationship would be ethical between yourself and your daughter?

> about me or my maternal/paternal families (about which he knows nothing because none of them would talk to him),
The level of disdain your family shows for you is not surprising.

> These fits of his hysteria are linked to what Jacques Lacan called 'mirror projections',
Pickering, you have been accused of projecting so many times you could light up a city.

> my children thinks this troll may have severe brain lesions,
You have already accused many people on this list and others of brain lesions. This is you talking about your own medical condition. “Diabetes increases atrophy and vascular lesions on brain MRI in patients with symptomatic arterial disease.” We infer from your statements that your diabetes has worsened.




On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 11:52:56 PM UTC, Stephan Pickering / Tutti Frutti Yehu'di wrote:

> Shalom & Erev tov, Will...the kind words, chaver/friend, are appreciated. You will note the troll is a liar, and illiterate. He cites a case from 2010, then compounds his persistent slanders against my family, now advancing the idea of our being participants in 'incest'. What I wrote in 2010 is ethically viable, and carefully worded. Taking it out-of-context is ludicrous.
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> The troll will not provide his:
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> 1) verifiable name
> 2) verifiable contact address
> 3) verifiable contact telephone number
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> Will, we are dealing here with a cyberstalker, who makes a fetish of being a phantasist.
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> STEPHAN PICKERING / Tutti Frutti Yehu'di

NancyGene

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Apr 6, 2017, 6:15:19 PM4/6/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 9:43:23 PM UTC, Stephan “They’re coming to take me away” Pickering wrote:

> A small example: I have before me a signed photo given to me in January 1974 by Gershom Scholem's supervised Ph.D. student, the bilingual Morton Smith.
Sure you do. All professors give out autographed pictures to fans. And give them unfinished manuscripts.

> Where did it come from?
That’s easy, you printed the picture and wrote a charming caption, signing Dr. Smith’s name.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 6, 2017, 8:39:25 PM4/6/17
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The lying troll keeps up with himself.

This is what is needed:

verifiable name:
verifiable address (physical and email):
verifiable telephone number:

none of this is forthcoming from him because he is afraid

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Rachel

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Apr 6, 2017, 8:48:16 PM4/6/17
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what is he afraid of ?

Will Dockery

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Apr 6, 2017, 9:30:12 PM4/6/17
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IT hides behind the fake name so it must be afraid of something.

:)

M. Rick

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:03:48 PM4/6/17
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On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 6:30:12 PM UTC-7, Will Dockery wrote:
> IT hides behind the fake name so it must be afraid of something.

Like what? Lawsuits? Violent retaliation? It's the same poster whether the name is real or fake.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:06:31 PM4/6/17
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On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:48:16 PM UTC-7, Rachel wrote:
> what is he afraid of ?

Shalom & Erev tov, Rachel...he is afraid of being exposed as a fraud, who would be compelled to apologise and retract his slanders and lies about my existence and maternal/paternal families, and to cease cyberstalking. And so...he will continue his semantic pirouettes of antisemitic baiting, hiding behind layers of fake cyberian addresses.

Rachel

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:08:02 PM4/6/17
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please tell me this is one of your jokes

Rachel

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Apr 6, 2017, 10:09:26 PM4/6/17
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oh, i thought that said hiding behind layers of cake.... (lol)

Will Dockery

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Apr 6, 2017, 11:13:03 PM4/6/17
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Obsessed stalkers and so on I reckon.

Oise my real name and figure I can handle whatever comes my way.

:)

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 7, 2017, 1:00:41 AM4/7/17
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On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:03:48 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:

> Like what? Lawsuits? Violent retaliation? It's the same poster whether the name is real or fake.

Shalom & Erev tov...what you are stating is incoherent: the troll's flimsy alias is based on individuals I knew nearly 15 years ago(one perished from a heroin overdose), and about whom the lying troll knows nothing. 'Violent retaliation' is meaningless. 'Lawsuits' -- a formal legal complaint re: felonious cyberstalking, coupled with slanderous fabrications. Indeed so. The lying troll, for obvious reasons, refuses to divulge verifiable name, verifiable mailing address, verifiable valid e-address registered to his verifiable name (the e-addresses the troll uses are not valid), and a verifiable telephone number. Instead, he throws javelins of nonsensical distortions and lies (accusing me of fucking my daughter is like a comic book). He is predictable, harmless, and illiterate antisemite. His whining in a legal setting will not suffice.

Stephan Pickering

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Apr 8, 2017, 4:31:08 PM4/8/17
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On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:03:48 PM UTC-7, M. Rick wrote:


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> Like what? Lawsuits? Violent retaliation? It's the same poster whether the name is real or fake.

Legally, the troll will be charged with telecommunications services-malicious use, and using a computer to commit a crime. This was, in part, what ensnared the other troll, who was, in public, offering a specified USD amount to murder Yehu'dim, which he listed here by name. As you will recall, he would, each day, post multiple attacks against Yehu'dim et al. It was his legal undoing, and he was caught because he was not hiding behind multiple names/addresses (a Cyberian paper wall, as it were). The present troll is knowingly and deliberately fabricating slanderous statements about biographical histories he knows nothing about (but keeps lying about), accusing me of incest, etc. etc. These, hence, constitute telecommunications services-malicious use, and using a computer to perpetrate a crime. He could avoid possible imprisonment by: 1) apologizing and retracting his slander; 2) providing his actual name, verifiable addresses (both snail mail and e-mail), and verifiable telephone number. Do I think this is going to happen? No, not willingly. He thinks this is a 'game'. I know 'game theory' much better.
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