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dpy...@gmail.com

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Dec 22, 2018, 9:11:28 AM12/22/18
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So I saw an article about the oddness of Bob's Xmas display. First the Woodsley fire took out the fence and hedge on Bob's Malibu property, so the person didn't think there would be a display. Then when he went by in December he was stunned to see an inflatable manger scene between two plastic angels (picture were taken). Next time everything was gone, only for a few days later the usual string of lights appeared. The article was funny, and the breakdown analysis of the lights was great. I'm sure someone here can post a link. The article read something like A Critical Analysis of Bob Dylan's 2018 Xmas lights.

President_dudley

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Dec 22, 2018, 11:58:02 AM12/22/18
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On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 9:11:28 AM UTC-5, dpy...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I saw an article about the oddness of Bob's Xmas display. First the Woodsley fire took out the fence and hedge on Bob's Malibu property, so the person didn't think there would be a display. Then when he went by in December he was stunned to see an inflatable manger scene between two plastic angels (picture were taken). Next time everything was gone, only for a few days later the usual string of lights appeared. The article was funny, and the breakdown analysis of the lights was great. I'm sure someone here can post a link. The article read something like A Critical Analysis of Bob Dylan's 2018 Xmas lights.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3m8qj/a-critical-analysis-of-bob-dylans-2018-xmas-lights

Truly one of the best Critical Analyses of bob's work i've every read.

Proof again the bob *is* the voice of his generation.

Just Walkin'

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Dec 22, 2018, 12:07:11 PM12/22/18
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On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 10:58:02 AM UTC-6, President_dudley wrote:
You mean Bob doesn't like Trump?

Rachel

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Dec 22, 2018, 5:44:47 PM12/22/18
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Do yoo ?

just curious just walkin'... :)

General Zod

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Dec 22, 2018, 5:49:52 PM12/22/18
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On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 9:11:28 AM UTC-5, dpy...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I saw an article about the oddness of Bob's Xmas display. First the Woodsley fire took out the fence and hedge on Bob's Malibu property, so the person didn't think there would be a display. Then when he went by in December he was stunned to see an inflatable manger scene between two plastic angels (picture were taken). Next time everything was gone, only for a few days later the usual string of lights appeared. The article was funny, and the breakdown analysis of the lights was great. I'm sure someone here can post a link. The article read something like A Critical Analysis of Bob Dylan's 2018 Xmas lights.

Interesting..............

Rachel

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Dec 22, 2018, 6:11:50 PM12/22/18
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On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 6:11:28 AM UTC-8, dpy...@gmail.com wrote:
> So I saw an article about the oddness of Bob's Xmas display. First the Woodsley fire took out the fence and hedge on Bob's Malibu property, so the person didn't think there would be a display. Then when he went by in December he was stunned to see an inflatable manger scene between two plastic angels (picture were taken). Next time everything was gone, only for a few days later the usual string of lights appeared. The article was funny, and the breakdown analysis of the lights was great. I'm sure someone here can post a link. The article read something like A Critical Analysis of Bob Dylan's 2018 Xmas lights.

hmm... you know how they say good fences make good neighbors?

well, now bob has no fences, does this mean bob has no neighbors in his non-virtual world. here we are, dr. dylan!!! :-DDD we're still here!!!! come be with us. :-D

Rachel

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Dec 22, 2018, 6:15:34 PM12/22/18
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yes, it's true.

i am trying to steal bob dylan away.

please forgive my crudité

Just Walkin'

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Dec 22, 2018, 9:06:36 PM12/22/18
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What is there to like?

Just Kidding

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Dec 22, 2018, 10:33:42 PM12/22/18
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You know, I sincerely tried to come up with one thing that I liked
about Trump, but I just couldn't.

Rachel

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Dec 22, 2018, 10:42:57 PM12/22/18
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i thought he was funny at first, and every now and then, but it's really not that funny

presidents should be serious and have the best interests of the country (and world, as we are all connected and have to live and work together) @💝

JD Chase

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Dec 24, 2018, 12:37:32 PM12/24/18
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Could not agree more with JK... if he wasn’t in the position of the most powerful person on Earth, I’d have some degree of sympathy for him, because he is mentally and emotionally unstable, he is mentally ill... but it’s very hard to have sympathy for him when he is causing so much chaos and turmoil, harming so many people and destroying the U.S... what an absolute nightmare! 😡

Just Walkin'

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Dec 24, 2018, 1:11:51 PM12/24/18
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On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 11:37:32 AM UTC-6, JD Chase wrote:
> Could not agree more with JK... if he wasn’t in the position of the most powerful person on Earth, I’d have some degree of sympathy for him, because he is mentally and emotionally unstable, he is mentally ill... but it’s very hard to have sympathy for him when he is causing so much chaos and turmoil, harming so many people and destroying the U.S... what an absolute nightmare! 😡

Then I'd say you'd better get out there and organize your working class brethren, Jordy. No time to waste whining about it; there's work to be done.

Grave Digger

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Dec 24, 2018, 1:35:21 PM12/24/18
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Me....These days I say very little at all...but everyone knows knows what time it be.
Can we all have a shot of eggnog for all the old times?

Merry Christmas!
ron

JD Chase

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Dec 24, 2018, 5:38:42 PM12/24/18
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Doing my part, JW! Sort and deliver the CPUSA paper every week and attend bi-monthly meetings... also often attend protests, marches, rallies etc... and every year we have our Amistad Awards event... fully intend to remain politically active... just wish that a hell of a lot more people would join us!!!

Just Walkin'

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Dec 25, 2018, 1:13:02 PM12/25/18
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On Monday, December 24, 2018 at 4:38:42 PM UTC-6, JD Chase wrote:
> Doing my part, JW! Sort and deliver the CPUSA paper every week and attend bi-monthly meetings... also often attend protests, marches, rallies etc... and every year we have our Amistad Awards event... fully intend to remain politically active... just wish that a hell of a lot more people would join us!!!

Whuzzat mean? You've become a democratic party activist, pushing for candidates and a platform that hasn't recognized the working class for over 50 years and are busy trying to rebuild a fictitious middle class using corporate dollars and advertising techniques?



JD Chase

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Dec 25, 2018, 1:56:14 PM12/25/18
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Well, CPUSA is undoubtably very pragmatic, perhaps too pragmatic, agreed... but that has an upside too... we can work with many like minded groups, we can be part of coalitions, unlike other groups which refuse to work along with other groups... Do agree that that CPUSA tends to be too aligned with the democrats, we are reluctant to criticize them
very harshly, we tend to give them a free pass, we tend to focus on the extremism of the Republican Party instead... and I have said so more than once... but once again, it could be argued that we are *realiatic*! It can be argued that a far left candidate could not become president at this point in time... as much as I love Bernie, I’m not sure he would have won, and even if he did, the power elite would have done all they could to stop him from accomplishing one single thing, opposition to Obama would have been minimal in comparison to opposition to Bernie, who’s personal safety Is be be worried about! Yes, ideally one would think the Communist party would be a lot bolder, but would that really accomplish much without a LOT more people and groups of people supporting us and working with us? Would absolutely welcome general strikes, but without a LOT more people on board, that won’t happen!

Grave Digger

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Dec 25, 2018, 3:35:20 PM12/25/18
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On Tuesday, December 25, 2018 at 1:56:14 PM UTC-5, JD Chase wrote:
> Well, CPUSA is undoubtably very pragmatic, perhaps too pragmatic, agreed... but that has an upside too... we can work with many like minded groups, we can be part of coalitions, unlike other groups which refuse to work along with other groups... Do agree that that CPUSA tends to be too aligned with the democrats, we are reluctant to criticize them
> very harshly, we tend to give them a free pass, we tend to focus on the extremism of the Republican Party instead... and I have said so more than once... but once again, it could be argued that we are *realiatic*! It can be argued that a far left candidate could not become president at this point in time... as much as I love Bernie, I’m not sure he would have won, and even if he did, the power elite would have done all they could to stop him from accomplishing one single thing, opposition to Obama would have been minimal in comparison to opposition to Bernie, who’s personal safety Is be be worried about! Yes, ideally one would think the Communist party would be a lot bolder, but would that really accomplish much without a LOT more people and groups of people supporting us and working with us? Would absolutely welcome general strikes, but without a LOT more people on board, that won’t happen!

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Wow! you've left me speechless....
Everybody knows that Zimmy is a capitalist.
Merry Christmas to one and all...Is it still coll to say Merry Christmas?
Who gives a fuck.
"I was just too stubborn to ever be governed by enforced insanity"

peace and love
ron

Just Walkin'

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Dec 25, 2018, 3:57:16 PM12/25/18
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On Tuesday, December 25, 2018 at 12:56:14 PM UTC-6, JD Chase wrote:
> Well, CPUSA is undoubtably very pragmatic, perhaps too pragmatic, agreed... but that has an upside too... we can work with many like minded groups, we can be part of coalitions, unlike other groups which refuse to work along with other groups... Do agree that that CPUSA tends to be too aligned with the democrats, we are reluctant to criticize them
> very harshly, we tend to give them a free pass, we tend to focus on the extremism of the Republican Party instead... and I have said so more than once... but once again, it could be argued that we are *realiatic*! It can be argued that a far left candidate could not become president at this point in time... as much as I love Bernie, I’m not sure he would have won, and even if he did, the power elite would have done all they could to stop him from accomplishing one single thing, opposition to Obama would have been minimal in comparison to opposition to Bernie, who’s personal safety Is be be worried about! Yes, ideally one would think the Communist party would be a lot bolder, but would that really accomplish much without a LOT more people and groups of people supporting us and working with us? Would absolutely welcome general strikes, but without a LOT more people on board, that won’t happen!

The crime of the century was fighting for equality of the races rather than fighting to end the race system altogether. The people could have delegitimized racism when it had a chance but settled for the democrats' foreign-policy driven response. Now race is conflated with other "discriminations" that are used to divide the working class and America is paying the price for such opportunism. That's what happens when you rally with liberals; you unite the enemy and make him stronger. Some lessons are never learned.

Just Walkin'

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Dec 25, 2018, 3:59:45 PM12/25/18
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Peace and love to you ron baby. All men are my brother; all women are my sisters, and for anyone in between, I'm still a brother.

Ain't no race but the human race.

Ask Eve, ask Hawa, ask Lucy.

Rachel

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Dec 25, 2018, 5:07:38 PM12/25/18
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hey dude...was that a typo, or am i dumb, i'm trying to read your post..."is it still coll to say merry xmas," what is that coll??? just wanna understand! thanks!

Just Kidding

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Dec 25, 2018, 5:12:27 PM12/25/18
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Evolution is a lengthy and frustrating process. It's going to take
many more generations before there is no recognition of races, and the
road will be a long and winding one. Let's just hope it's not one that
never ends.

In the meantime, Merry Christmas to all the denizens of rmd.

Grave Digger

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Dec 25, 2018, 5:14:19 PM12/25/18
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Baby...You'll always be Cool in my somewhat twisted mind.

cheers

ron

Rachel

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Dec 25, 2018, 6:49:59 PM12/25/18
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where are you???? :-(((((

i'm all alone on christmas!!!!! :-(((((

don't you want to be with me, baby? :-(((((

please, i want you to write me, if you want me, and TAKE ME!!!!!

TAKE ME BOB DYLAN!!!!! TAKE ME AWAY!!!!! :-DDD

Rachel

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Dec 25, 2018, 9:15:47 PM12/25/18
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EN GARDE, MR. DYLAN!!! ⚔

President_dudley

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Dec 26, 2018, 4:06:06 PM12/26/18
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Malibu Is Open Again — Now What?
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/malibu-rebuilding-woolsey-fire-772461/

tells the story of the malibu fire at least in part through the eyes of residents who were not rock stars, a cat food salesperson and a bricklayer.

Just Walkin'

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Dec 26, 2018, 8:30:56 PM12/26/18
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On Tuesday, December 25, 2018 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-6, Just Kidding wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 12:57:14 -0800 (PST), "Just Walkin'"
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Race is a myth. The world already knows it. Unfortunately too many people in this country and all of our laws do not.

http://www.mahmoudelkati.com/publications/the-myth-of-racethe-reality-of-racism.html

And a happy turn of the calendar to you and all my brothers and sisters here at rmd too.

General Zod

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Dec 30, 2018, 5:46:53 PM12/30/18
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I apologize to ye.............. Rachel..........

Rachel

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Dec 30, 2018, 5:59:23 PM12/30/18
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I accept you're apologee.....(attempts to bows stumbles and falls)(konk!) 😉

Rachel

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Dec 30, 2018, 6:13:07 PM12/30/18
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I accept you're apologee..... (attempts to take a deep bow, stumbles and falls)(konk!) 😉

President_dudley

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Dec 30, 2018, 6:51:20 PM12/30/18
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Something there is that doesn't love a wall

Rachel

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Dec 30, 2018, 6:59:37 PM12/30/18
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if i could, i'd stick my head through it and say, "bob? are you there?"

DianeE

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Jan 2, 2019, 12:32:37 PM1/2/19
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Fuck the working class, they're the ignorant dupes, rubes, and Christers
who elected Trump in the first place.

Grave Digger

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Jan 2, 2019, 4:40:30 PM1/2/19
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Fuck the working class, they're the ignorant dupes, rubes, and Christers
who elected Trump in the first place.
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But...They be the salt of the earth..... Without them we be nothing.
You really can't make this shit up....It would just be make believe....

love from somewhere out there in the reality....
ron

Just Walkin'

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:05:41 PM1/2/19
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You be my brother for sure now. That's nearly all of us; only identity I know.

Just Walkin'

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:07:54 PM1/2/19
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 3:40:30 PM UTC-6, Grave Digger wrote:
But ron baby; what's with the "without them?" Ain't we us?

Just Walkin'

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:21:56 PM1/2/19
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We ARE the working class, sister! RE YOU NOT? Except for you trust fund babies and a few cross class interlopers in for a look to make sure their investments in culture are reproducing in some form, all of us work or worked for a living and not relied on the passive income of asset ownership; the 99%. I mean verily, teachers are working class. So are the people who make and sell the products you buy and who service your every need, from mechanics to hairdressers. The majority f Americans. They voted for everyone.

Now that the middle-class has been exposed as a myth, a market-driven ego-trip for mid-level managers, salesmen, travel agents, shop keepers and civil service employees no longer useful to the system, new tools for social division have been devised. Why do you think they push identity so hard, from both sides? So get off that attitude. We're the ones who do all the work. Our mission is to drive those mis-representors off our turf, not to cede the broadest section of American society to our class-sworn common enemies and their white supremacist stooges.

Grave Digger

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:24:34 PM1/2/19
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If I finally have Walking reading through my jive and connecting to my wavelength.....Maybe my work here is done.

peace
nor

Rachel

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:38:33 PM1/2/19
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look, i don't know anything about this, but didn't the plans and programs of the 50's effect a prosperous, thriving, healthy, robust middle-class? why can't we do that again? can we?

if only we could get the 1% to bend, even just slightly. if only we could get everybody who voted last time, and more, out in more rural areas, to vote again...it seems this wealthy oligarchy is being inordinately selfish, so much so, that they are doing themselves a disservice.

who wants to live in a world surrounded by garbage and indigence? who wants to live in a world heating up like an inferno, where you can't even go outside six months out of the year? are they all just planning on moving away up to northern canada? or will they just jump around the globe like kindergarteners playing hopscotch, from one sympathetic climate to another, ignoring what is going on around them and the world they are leaving to their children and grandchildren?

i even wonder if most billionaires aren't just sitting alone in their mansions drinking themselves to death, drowning in depression. most rich people are unhappy, they say. but maybe that's just propaganda. what do i know?

Grave Digger

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Jan 2, 2019, 9:41:44 PM1/2/19
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I think I'll call you Walken from now on....And that be a very good thing.

cheers
ron

Just Kidding

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Jan 2, 2019, 10:49:56 PM1/2/19
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 12:32:30 -0500, DianeE <Spam...@ThankYou.net>
wrote:
I understand who people are referring to when they talk about "the
working class." I just don't understand why. After all, most rich
people work, too; they just make a lot more money doing whatever they
do than "the working class."

Just Kidding

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Jan 2, 2019, 10:57:56 PM1/2/19
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It's alright ma, we're only bleeding.....

Read the lyrics. Through his youthful, naive and inexperienced eyes,
Dylan came pretty close to nailing it.

Rachel

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Jan 2, 2019, 11:04:27 PM1/2/19
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yeah, it just goes over my head.

is he saying there is no way to, if not fix it, make it any better?

i just can't believe that.

how, i have no idea. okay, maybe i have a sense of it, but i guess i'm not really out to save the world. i can't even save myself, really.

Just Walkin'

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Jan 2, 2019, 11:33:51 PM1/2/19
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:49:56 PM UTC-6, Just Kidding wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 12:32:30 -0500, DianeE
The difference is if your labor power is expropriated by another. I doubt if anyone expropriates the labor power of Warren Buffet or Bill Gates, or any of the vaunted titans of industry we train our young to worship and admire.

Just Walkin'

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Jan 2, 2019, 11:36:52 PM1/2/19
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We have to find a way to call the class to attention. People can't learn if they're not paying attention. Life is filled with distractions.

Just Kidding

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Jan 3, 2019, 12:42:07 AM1/3/19
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As I said, I understand why the term is used; I just think it's
imprecise.

DianeE

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Jan 3, 2019, 7:10:36 AM1/3/19
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Except i think you have it backwards. Far from being the stooges, the
white supremacists (misogynists, "Christian nationalists") are running
the show now. *Trump* is their stooge.
>

Just Walkin'

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Jan 3, 2019, 11:55:38 AM1/3/19
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Trump and his running dogs are all stooges of a moribund ruling class, scared for its life. Why do you think they were installed to begin with?

And for what it is worth, they've been running the show for ages, despite your liberal fantasies to the contrary. They merely took the velvet glove off that iron fist and it scares you. What? You think that the dems aren't taking the same money? Look at their haul on the net neutrality issue...

Just Walkin'

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Jan 3, 2019, 12:03:57 PM1/3/19
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On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 11:42:07 PM UTC-6, Just Kidding wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:33:46 -0800 (PST), "Just Walkin'"
>
It's only imprecise when you conflate sociological terms with economic categories, something our aggregate media has worked on for ages to execute. Working class is an economic role, not a demographic category. It is that class of people whose only sustenance comes from selling their labor power. The dividing line class-wise is between the expropriators and the expropriated. Fair exchange? Show me.

Of course in America, we are brainwashed to think that we don't have classes. Or if we do (!) the class divisions are permeable and, as free individuals we can transcend the class of our birth, unlike the rigid class societies of Europe.

Or perhaps we are taught the myth of a great American middle class based on income and home ownership. If autoworkers and teamsters and teachers and postal clerks are middle class, who the heck is the working class then?

DianeE

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Jan 3, 2019, 3:41:11 PM1/3/19
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Al Franken was leading the charge on net neutrality, if you recall. I
don't think the rest of them even understand what it means.
If Franken hadn't been forced to resign (by my senator, unfortunately) I
believe we wouldn't have Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.

DianeE

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Jan 3, 2019, 3:47:30 PM1/3/19
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It's imprecise because it's outdated. It's not even a useful term any
more. Essentially "the white working class" as used today means the
dupes, rubes, and Christers who vote for Trump. No one ever mentions
the non-white working class. I can only surmise that it doesn't exist.
<wry smile>

Just Walkin'

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Jan 3, 2019, 9:34:57 PM1/3/19
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On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 2:47:30 PM UTC-6, DianeE wrote:
> On 1/3/2019 12:42 AM, Just Kidding wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:33:46 -0800 (PST), "Just Walkin'"
> >
The attempt to de-operationalize terms such as "working class" (and its opposite, "ruling class") has been relentless. In fact, all language describing or even suggesting economic classes has been scrubbed from the language over the past 60 years. The new left of the 60s was part of the scrubbing; it helped refixate causes for justice on rights rather than on equity and shifted the power from those who produce to those who consume. Doesn't make it outdated; only suppressed.

Still, I think you got it all wrong, sis. I stand by the working class in all its multi-color, multi-ethnic and multi-lingual glory, you and me included.

Just Walkin'

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Jan 3, 2019, 9:41:12 PM1/3/19
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He really sucked on the issue until we constituents got on his ass about it. He was parroting the same line his fellow copyright holders and content creators mouthed at the beginning. It is ONLY because we have an active and vigilant electorate up here that he moved on the issue, and became a pretty good champion at that.

Your senator is either a dingleberry or your electorate ain't doing its job. Could be both, I suspect. Especially with those anti-working class attitudes, of course. We need all hands on deck to turn this ship about, even the dishwashers in the galley. Ain't that right ron baby?

Grave Digger

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Jan 3, 2019, 10:57:40 PM1/3/19
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Man...I've been trying me damnedest to stay out of this and it wasn't easy... but Hearing"ron baby" I had to fire up the old Atari 800 and say something.Brother... You are right!
Some smart person at sometime and palace said:
"You never argue with an idiot....They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Maybe... We could all cash a check from the government...In one form or another.
Hey...I could use some free shit.
If I hear one more of these assholes call me a racist.....

To all my Democrat friends....Don't let the fringe drag you down into the whole that they're digging for you.

Walken...She's all yours.


"Oh, there ain't no use in me workin' alla time
I got a woman who works herself blind
Works up to her britches, up to her neck
Write me letters and sends me checks
She's a humdinger
Folk singer"

cheers
ron(use to be a Democrat...Now that I got me rights back you know where I'm going)

gj

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Jan 4, 2019, 11:10:20 AM1/4/19
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Clearly we need a caste system in the States. And everyone should
stop working. Not that anyone does this time of year.

-GJ 3.0

Just Kidding

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Jan 4, 2019, 12:23:53 PM1/4/19
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:10:03 -0500, gj <geminij...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I stopped working years ago. Does that mean I'm no longer qualified to
be a member of the working class....or caste?

Just Walkin'

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Jan 4, 2019, 5:27:37 PM1/4/19
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Depends; does your social security check go toward living expenses or simply to pay your pool guy?

Just Kidding

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Jan 4, 2019, 7:09:14 PM1/4/19
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Keeping the pool clean isn't a living expense??


(I don't have a pool....unless you count the jacuzzi tub in the
bathroom)

gj

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Jan 4, 2019, 7:12:09 PM1/4/19
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2019 12:23:53 -0500, Just Kidding
<justk...@comcast.net> wrote:


>>>
>>>Still, I think you got it all wrong, sis. I stand by the working class in all its multi-color, multi-ethnic and multi-lingual glory, you and me included.
>>
>>Clearly we need a caste system in the States. And everyone should
>>stop working. Not that anyone does this time of year.
>>
>>-GJ 3.0
>
>I stopped working years ago. Does that mean I'm no longer qualified to
>be a member of the working class....or caste?

Yes it does. But rejoice, you'll always be a consumer.

-GJ 3.0

Just Kidding

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Feb 1, 2019, 7:12:27 PM2/1/19
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So is Jamie Dimon working class? Or the guy who runs Goldman Sachs?
The CEO of Exxon? They do work, after all.

Just Walkin'

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Feb 1, 2019, 11:26:27 PM2/1/19
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On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 6:12:27 PM UTC-6, Just Kidding wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 18:34:55 -0800 (PST), "Just Walkin'"
>
It's not what they do that determines class; it's their ownership reatonship to the means of production by which they extract the surplus value of other people's labor power. In the case of Jamie Dimon or the people who run Goldman Sachs, financialization is a mode of production and they most decidedly are functionaries of the ruling class, the actual large scale private depositors and investors in their rackets.

But that's a weird question coming from what I resumed to be a fairly intelligent guy. What year did you graduate high school?
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