Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Dylan in Nuremberg

399 views
Skip to first unread message

Brad Chapman

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to

Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!

Brad Chapman
chap...@pilot.msu.edu

Gert Webelhuth

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to

>lists, etc.. Thanks!
>
> Brad Chapman
> chap...@pilot.msu.edu

I have a tape from Bob playing Nuernberg on 07/01/78. As I recall, it was
an open-air concert at which Eric Clapton also played. As far as I know
there was no concentration camp at N. but it was the town where huge party
ralleys of the National Socialist Party were held during the war and it is
therefore identified in memory with the Nazi ideology. While I don't know
that for a fact, I assume that is the reason why the war crimes trials
were held there after the war. I have no idea whether Bob did something
special at that show but I am sure he was well aware of where he was
playing.

Karl-Heinz Meurer

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to

Gert Webelhuth wrote:

> >Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany, and she is


> >going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.

There was no concentration camp. Nuremberg (Nürnberg) was the city where
Hitler and his Nazi party held their infamous Reichsparteitage (mass
party gatherings), not during the war as far as I know, but mid to end
thirties.

The German promoter of Dylan's 1978 tour, Fritz Rau, felt, he should
make this concert something special. So the stage for Dylan was set up
on the opposite side of the place, where Hitler held his speeches. Dylan
realised that and said after the event something like that it was a
special feeling for him to play in this place and to have the symbolical
impression of 100000 Germans showing the back to Hitler and their face
to him, a Jew. If you need more information please post or email, I'll
look up the whole story in my literature an post it in a more exact way.

Charlie

--
"Feel like a prisoner in a world of mystery
I wish someone'd come and push back the clock for me"

Bob Dylan, "Highlands", 1997

Karl-Heinz Meurer

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to chap...@pilot.msu.edu

Brad Chapman wrote:
>
> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is

> going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
> Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
> the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
> where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
> and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
> what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
> do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
> Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
> lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!
>
> Brad Chapman
> chap...@pilot.msu.edu

Looked up some citations:

"Perhaps the most amazing venue of any tour was on July 1 [1978], when
he [Dylan]
played at the Zeppelinfeld, Nuremberg, West Germany, the huge open
stadium where Hitler used to
stage some of his most theatrical rallies. A plan to visit a former
concentration-camp site
in Germany had to be scrapped for lack of time."
Robert Shelton, "No Direction Home"

"July 1st, 1978. Nuremberg Zeppelinfeld. Dylan returns to the site of
Hitler's infamous Nuremberg
rallies and performs to an estimated crowd of 80,000 people, including a
small number of
neo-Nazis who proceed to throw things at the stage throughout the show."
Clinton Heylin, "Stolen Moments"

Seth Kulick

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to

In article <343D02...@gmx.net>,

Karl-Heinz Meurer <karl-hei...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Brad Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
>> going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
>> Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
>> the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
>> where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
>> and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
>> what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They

>


>Looked up some citations:
>
>"Perhaps the most amazing venue of any tour was on July 1 [1978], when
>he [Dylan]
>played at the Zeppelinfeld, Nuremberg, West Germany, the huge open
>stadium where Hitler used to
>stage some of his most theatrical rallies. A plan to visit a former
>concentration-camp site
>in Germany had to be scrapped for lack of time."
>Robert Shelton, "No Direction Home"
>

Even if Dylan hadn't said or sang anything special, I think we
can assume that he "realized what had happened there". But I believe I
read something saying that before "Masters of War", he said "It gives
me great pleasure to sing this song in this place".

I know that at least one rmd reader was at this show, so perhaps more
comments will be forthcoming.


--
------------------------------------------------------------
Seth Kulick "There are no kings inside the
University of Pennsylvania gates of Eden" - Bob Dylan
sku...@linc.cis.upenn.edu http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~skulick/home.html

Tricia J

unread,
Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
to

In article <343D02...@gmx.net>, Karl-Heinz says...

>
>Brad Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
>> going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
>> Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
>> the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
>> where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
>> and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
>> what had happened there and he was protesting that or something."

>


>"Perhaps the most amazing venue of any tour was on July 1 [1978], when
>he [Dylan]
>played at the Zeppelinfeld, Nuremberg, West Germany, the huge open
>stadium where Hitler used to
>stage some of his most theatrical rallies. A plan to visit a former
>concentration-camp site
>in Germany had to be scrapped for lack of time."
>Robert Shelton, "No Direction Home"
>

>"July 1st, 1978. Nuremberg Zeppelinfeld. Dylan returns to the site of
>Hitler's infamous Nuremberg
>rallies and performs to an estimated crowd of 80,000 people, including a
>small number of
>neo-Nazis who proceed to throw things at the stage throughout the show."
>Clinton Heylin, "Stolen Moments"

He performed 'Masters of War' and introduced it by saying

"This is an old song... not really... it gives me great pleasure to
sing it in this place... "


(this performance is available on "Hard To Find: Vol II" bootleg CD)
Tricia

Mark Moore

unread,
Oct 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/10/97
to

On 10 Oct 1997 spjo...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> It seems to me that the first two lines of "Tryin' To Get to Heaven" mean
> that a storm is coming -- God is very close to troubling the waters again,
> and they're already high and muddy. The narrator knows that time is running
> out for everyone (he can hear their hearts beating like "pendulums swinging
> on chains"), and is hoping that when the clock stops, he won't be among the
> ones who find out just how much more you really can lose.


Very good. I agree.

Manfred Helfert

unread,
Oct 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/10/97
to

Karl-Heinz Meurer <karl-hei...@GMX.NET> wrote:
>Brad Chapman wrote:
>
>> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
> >going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
> >Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
> >the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
> >where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
> >and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
> >what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
> >do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
> >Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
> >lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!
>
> Brad Chapman
> chap...@pilot.msu.edu

>Looked up some citations:

>"Perhaps the most amazing venue of any tour was on July 1 [1978], when


>he [Dylan] played at the Zeppelinfeld, Nuremberg, West Germany, the huge open
>stadium where Hitler used to stage some of his most theatrical rallies. A plan
to visit a former
>concentration-camp site in Germany had to be scrapped for lack of time."
>Robert Shelton, "No Direction Home"

>"July 1st, 1978. Nuremberg Zeppelinfeld. Dylan returns to the site of Hitler's
infamous Nuremberg
>rallies and performs to an estimated crowd of 80,000 people, including a small
number of
>neo-Nazis who proceed to throw things at the stage throughout the show."
>Clinton Heylin, "Stolen Moments"

Here's what I posted more than a year ago (personal impressions to
follow if anyone's interested):

---BEGIN QUOTE----

From: 10151...@compuserve.com
Subject: Nuremberg, Germany, Jul 1, 1978 (Fritz Rau remembers)
Date: 1996/04/13
Traveling down memory lane to the first Dylan concert I ever attended
and going through my collection of press coverage of his first-ever
German tour in 1978, I came across a few xeroxed pages from an
out-of-print book on Fritz Rau, the German concert promoter at that
time (Kathrin Brigl and Sigfried Schmidt-Joos, "Fritz Rau: Buchhalter
der Traeume" -- Fritz Rau: Accountant of Dreams --, Berlin: Quadriga,
1985). Since these pages present some interesting facts about the 1978
Nuremberg concert, I decided to translate and post excerpts from them.

Fritz Rau is negotiating the tour with Dylan's new manager, Jerry
Weintraub, in Los Angeles. Weintraub invites him for dinner at his
house where he meets Dylan for the first time:

"Now we're invited to the Weintraubs', and suddenly Bob Dylan enters
the room. Knowing his reputation of being rather taciturn, I wonder:
What is he going to say? Probably he'll inquire about the tour deal
once more. Nothing in that vein: 'Fritz, I wanna talk to you about the
American Folk Blues Festival of 1963.' During that year, by no means a
super-star yet, he had hitchhiked through Europe and attended the
Blues Festival concert in Copenhagen. There, for the first time, he
had been able to listen to blues artists live onstage whom he had
hitherto only known as far away silhouettes. He immediately starts a
discussion whether it had been wise back then to start the concert
with Sonny Boy Williamson's little blues harp. I was more concerned
with the Dylan million-Dollar-tour and moved on to that as soon as
possible. I told him that we had planned concerts for Westfalenhalle
in Dortmund, Deutschlandhalle in Berlin and for Zeppelinfeld,
Nuremberg, formerly known as 'Reichsparteitagsgelaende'.

Dylan shakes his head: 'I think, Nuremberg is the wrong place.' And
then he talks of Leni Riefenstahl and her film 'Triumph of the Will',
of Albert Speer and his gigantomaniac architecture. He knew all of
this and what 'Reichsparteitagsgelaende' stands for. He ponders, and I
realize that it is a tough decision for him. Suddenly, he smiles and
nods. He instintively understood why we wanted him to appear at that
exact location." (p. 209)

Following hostile pre-concert press coverage and booing of Dylan and
his (black) background singers in Berlin, Dylan (according to Rau) is
rather hurt:

"He raved about Berlin. He stated that Berlin fascinated him and that
he would like to live there for half a year. After the concert, he had
abandoned this intention. The city had hurt him too deeply. When we
flew to Nuremberg, he was very silent and very reflective.

This open air concert 1978 was the absolute highlight for all of our
efforts. A year before, we had staged an open air concert with
Santana, Chicago, Udo Lindenberg and others. We had built the stage
onto the old Hitler rostrum, which still has not been blown up. But
there were no good 'vibrations' in Professor Speer's violent
architecture. That's why we set up the stage exactly opposite this
time..." (pp. 210-211)

Following Lake's, Chicken Shack's and Clapton's excellent sets, blues
pianist Champion Jack Dupree is the last act before Dylan's
appearance.

"Bob Dylan is excited... sitting backstage while Champion Jack
Dupree's piano is rolled offstage. 'Fritz, I have to go on stage.' It
is not a rebuke, rather a cry for help. He has to go out now. But
everything is ready for him. He dons his leather jacket, turns up the
collar, and the very moment he enters the ramp, the overcast sky
splits, with the setting sun illuminating this man..." (pp. 214-215)

"Dylan is outside, his small harmonica in front of his face, he sings
three, four songs alone, and suddenly he gets the young black choir
singer upfront for a type of gospel song [PROBABLY CAROLYN DENNIS
WITH "A CHANGE IS GONNA COME."]... Dylan still had not got over
Berlin. He wanted to show us: Look who I bring bring along, even the
background choir. Then Eric Clapton joined him... The sun went down
and the dramatic atmosphere of the evening was enhanced by the
lengthening of shadows and the falling of night. The stage was radiant
with the brightness of the floodlights while the monstrous Hitler
rostrum was swallowed by darkness.

We had prepared fireworks to go off during the second verse of
'Forever Young'... I cried, and then Dylan came offstage. Like a world
champion, he had fought for his audience, had given all of himself.
But instead of walking away exhausted, he walks up to to me, grabs my
arm and says: 'What's the matter, Fritz? Everything has been alright!'

The following morning, we took a train to Paris. On the second
evening, he phones me at my hotel room and asks 'Fritz, what happened
in Nuremberg? I did not understand.' I told him: 'You should ask what
happened in Nuremberg and in Berlin. They belong together.' And I once
more explained to him why we had set up his stage opposite the Hitler
rostrum and that 80,000 Germans had turned their backs on Hitler and
had turned to Bob Dylan and his music. He hesitated for a moment as if
he was reflecting on that. 'Yes', he said before terminating the call,
'it could have been like that... maybe,' (pp. 216-217)

- I hope I did not bore anyone to death with these recollections of a
concert which means a lot to me personally.
---END OF QUOTE ---
- Manfred

"Routes, Routes & Ramblings" Dylan Musical Roots and Influences
Website at http://www.yi.com/home/HelfertManfred/index.htm
PLEASE CHECK OUT THE NEW "AMERICAN HISTORY IN SONG/WOODY GUTHRIE"
SECTIONS of my "Ballads From Deep Gap and elsewhere" Website at
http.//www.geocities.com/Nashville/3448/index.html

Karl-Heinz Meurer

unread,
Oct 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/11/97
to Manfred Helfert

Manfred Helfert wrote:

> - I hope I did not bore anyone to death with these recollections of a
> concert which means a lot to me personally.

> - Manfred

No you didn't, Manfred. That was a fascinating piece to read. Maybe I
can get a copy of the book somewhere.

Manfred Helfert

unread,
Oct 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/11/97
to

On 9 Oct 1997 16:37:51 GMT, in rec.music.dylan, Seth Kulick
sku...@linc.cis.upenn.edu wrote:

>I know that at least one rmd reader was at this show, so perhaps more
>comments will be forthcoming.
>

Well, Seth, since you obviously adressed this to me (THANKS,
buddy...), here are some (VERY) personal recollections (my memory may
fail me now and then after almost 20 years...):

The morning of July 1, 1978 -- a Saturday, if I recall correctly. The
sky's overcast and it looks like a hard rain's a-gonna fall. After one
more cup of coffee two student friends of mine and I board a beat-up
Buick 6 (Volkswagen Beetle, that is...) and we are on the road
(again)...

It's eight in the morning -- we're late getting through the suburbs
of Mainz, Germany onto Highway 61 (A-61, that is...), heading east
into the uncharted wilderness of the German Free State of Bavaria to
that place called "Zeppelinfeld" ("blimp [air]field"), the
euphemistic, conveniently politically "incorrect" name by which the
former "Reichsparteitagsgelaende" (the Nazi Party's rallying ground of
the 1930s) in Nuremberg is known these days...

Sweep the past under the carpet; all the graves are by now covered by
grass -- the pastoral countryside through which we're driving is
peaceful and serene... "Street Legal" (which I just got a week ago, or
so) blasting from the car stereo -- "Baby, Stop Crying", "Is Your Love
In Vain", "Senor"... -- nice, relaxing music, perfectly suited for
driving at maximum Beetle's speed on the autobahn...

We're past Frankfurt -- traffic is congesting. We hadn't realized that
this is the first day of school holidays in several German states --
everybody and their family is heading in our direction, east to
southeast, in every type of jalopies (mostly spotlessly clean...as is
expected from the typical German car-fetishist), on this highway
leading to the gardens of eden of pre-civil-war Yugoslavia and
Italy...

Past Wuerzburg -- stop and go -- we're stuck inside of the biggest
traffic jam, bumper to bumper, I have ever encountered. Two
kilometers in one hour -- where's the next exit from the autobahn?
Otherwise, we won't make it in time for the 2 p.m. opening of the
concert, admission to the festival grounds starting at noon...

Finally, an exit. We get off the congested highway and proceed (rather
steadily and without any further obstructions) on narrow country roads
towards our destination...

Finally, Nuremberg... We get lost in the city; finally, at 11:30, we
see a direction marker for "Zeppelinfeld". All the parking spaces near
the festival area are already taken; we find one about a mile away,
grab our stuff, and head towards Zeppelinfeld.

The first impression: Huge concrete walls looming behind the merciful
camouflage of trees... Gigantic. Rolled out barbed wire coils
everywhere (to block the several - unauthorized - accesses to the
festival grounds), viciously looking security guards in black leather
garb with even more viciously looking German shepherd dogs (who can
probably trace their ancestry to the dogs owned by the "Fuehrer"...)
with muzzles, behind the barbed wire -- bad vibes, "are we entering a
concentration camp?"

The main entrance -- myriads of people being herded through about five
"cattle chutes", frisked for weapons and glass bottles, but the
atmosphere changes -- the "bad vibes" are gone; people are joking, you
make new acquaintances while waiting in the long lines in front of the
entrance...

Finally, we're inside. The sight is amazing. In front of us are
already about 30,000 to 50,000 people settled on their blankets, air
mattresses, etc. on the level area in front of the stage which looks
tiny from the far end of what is only half of the huge area with its
gigantomaniac architecture
(picture the chariot racing arena in the "Ben Hur" movie "times two"
or even "three"...)

The other half of the area (behind the stage) is an American type
sportsfield -- bleachers in the sun of the early July afternoon,
standard baseball fields (used by the American troops stationed in
Nuremberg and therefore "Off-limits" for concert purposes).

Behind us looms the most megalomaniac part of this place's
architecture: The rostrum used by Hitler for his speeches, huge
concrete "slabs"/"pillars" rising high behind it, a "tower" type
building on either side -- all of it probably intended to "dwarf" the
spectators, to imbue the sense of "You are nothing, your people (and
its glorious leader Adolf Hitler) are EVERYTHING." Threatening,
intimidating....

We find some space to sit down at the foot of this concrete monster
building, slightly higher than the level area in front of us so that
our view towards the stage is not obstructed (we've got binoculars
hanging from our necks... but no jewels) -- not to far from the row of
portable toilets (to our right), near the entrance (rather convenient
in view of our supply of red wine in plastic bottles...). The throng
of people entering the area still seems endless...

The concert starts. We've made friends with the people near us,
exchanged tobacco (and "wacky tobaccy") with them...
"Lake" -- a German/English group opens, followed by "Chicken Shack,"
a British blues-oriented group.

The stage is a rotating one, so while one act plays, the equipment for
the next act is already being set up in the back -- the back part of
the stage is then rotated to the front -- so the breaks between the
different acts are minimal -- very good planning, IMHO.

The first real "highlight" -- Eric Clapton with Yvonne Elliman (Mary
Magdalene of "Jesus Christ Superstar" movie fame) as background
singer, who is featured as solo artist on a truly excellent "Can't
Find My Way Back Home."

I'm on one of the "towers" by then and have a view over the whole
area, as well as the area outside Zeppelinfeld -- there's an
(obviously) man-made pond about 500 meters away and on the other side
of this pond I see another gigantic (definitely Nazi-architecture)
building...

The lines of people waiting to be admitted to the festival area are
still long -- I've never seen as many people in my lives. Clapton
plays J.J. Cale's "Cocaine"....

Instead of Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, Champion Jack Dupree
follows Clapton -- he is great, but as one critic later remarked (I'm
quoting this from memory) it was somehow "like playing with marbles in
a bull-fight arena." A great act, but somewhat out of place in front
of this huge audience (70,000 or 80,000 by now) -- his intimate
heart-felt blues more suited for a club atmosphere...

Finally, the moment I've anticipated for so long: I see Bob Dylan in
concert for the first time!

He opens with Tampa Red's "She's Love Crazy" -- a song I'm not
familiar with at all. Then "Baby, Stop Crying" (I know that one). "Mr.
Tambourine Man" -- strange with the 1978 arrangement --, "Shelter From
The Storm" --- etc. (You can find a complete setlist at Christian
Zeiser's site at http://www.yi.com/home/ZeiserChristian/

After "Going, Going, Gone" (song #12), Carolyn Dennis sings Sam
Cooke's "A Change is Gonna Come", Helena Springs follows with "Love
Minus Zero/No Limits", Steven Soles with "Laissez-Faire"...

Halfway through Dylan's set, the barricades and "cattle chutes" at the
entrance are removed -- everybody can come in for free...

In retrospect (almost 20 years), and listening to the tape tonight, I
find Dylan's performance very spirited, very "exciting", as if the
strange mood of this historical place had made him give his "utmost."

Instead of the "average" 26 to 27 songs on the other 1978 European
concerts, he performs 28 in his "main set" -- he makes a remark about
the significance of this place when introducing "Masters of War"
(#22), which Patricia Jungwirth already quoted...

When the Night Comes Falling From the Sky: The two encores -- Eric
Clapton joins Dylan onstage for "I'll Be your Baby Tonight" and "The
Times They Are A-Changin'" -- during the last song, "professional"
fireworks explode behind the stage, the area in front of the stage is
lit by thousands of lights from flashlights, lighters, most likely
U.S. Army issued "illumination grenades" in different colors (quite a
few G.I.'s in the crowd...) etc. -- PURE MAGIC in this huge arena!!!

Heylin reports an incident of Neo-Nazis throwing things onto stage --
I (personally) do NOT RECALL such an incident. I made my way through
the crowds to right in front of the stage during the middle of Bob's
set and did not witness anything like that.

It was a long drive back after the concert...

-- Manfred

Andrea Orlandi

unread,
Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
to Manfred Helfert

Manfed wrote

> Heylin reports an incident of Neo-Nazis throwing things onto stage --
> I (personally) do NOT RECALL such an incident. I made my way through
> the crowds to right in front of the stage during the middle of Bob's
> set and did not witness anything like that.
>

There was not a Nazi incident at all. As I wrote before, I was there
too. At the beginning of the show
I was 50 meter from the stage. On the first songs excitement was so high
that most of the people on
the front rows were standing since first song. This was not welcome from
the people sitting behind.
There were thousands of people who wanted to stay sitted, tired of long
waiting for the show, many of them
drunken too or a little high for dope, and 2-4 thousands in the first
rows that were satanding.
Somehow somebody started to throw cans of beers to that people standing.
Soon after they were grabbing
piece of of the field from the ground and throwing to people that too.
I made my way through the crowd after Like a rolling stone and myself
too was hit on the head with cans
and bit of land. People were shouting "Sit down!" everywhere.
I even have a photo of Bob singing, where you can actually see things
flying over shoulders of the audience.
Eventually I was on front row while Bob were strumming his guitar on the
background and Helena Spring was
singing Minus Zero.
From then on, it has been the most wonderful two hours of my life.
Bob never took off his dark sunglasses, neither for a second, even if i
try to ask him shouting and making
gesture to him to do so: you know, I thought, this is my first and only
show of Bob that I will ever see, and
him............is not showing at all his blue eyes.
Highlights were: Tambourine Man, Baby blue, Tangled up in blue, Thin
Man, Rolling Stone, Sooner or later, Blowin in the wind, , I want you,
, Master of war, Watchtower, Forever young.
I will never forget Bob singing and his face of that night.
Years later I met somebody close to Bob who was there with him, and he
confirmed me that Bob was in a very
special mood that night, because of the site and of the big audience
attending to his show, a jew in the core of Hitler headquarters.
Ciao
Andrea


jimha...@gmail.com

unread,
Nov 4, 2018, 5:31:41 PM11/4/18
to
On Thursday, October 9, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Brad Chapman wrote:
> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
> going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
> Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
> the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
> where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
> and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
> what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
> do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
> Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
> lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!
>
> Brad Chapman
> chap...@pilot.msu.edu

I Was @ the Concert. Eric Clapton, Bob Dillon, Muddy Waters and a German Band Called "Chicken Shack" recorded a live Album which Myself and all my Army Buddies wound up on the back of the album cover !We were about 30 feet from the stage. It rained but otherwise was an AWESOME Concert !!

President_dudley

unread,
Nov 6, 2018, 1:45:51 AM11/6/18
to
hey jimha,

thanks for taking the time to post this, and i hope this finds you well.

i love it when i go to these elderly sites and someone dredges up a dead post that is more alive than some of the people i know.

just a cursory seek yields this:

https://www.setlist.fm/festival/1978/open-air-festival78-bob-dylan-nurnberg-1978-4bd657d2.html

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/1978/zeppelinfeld-nuremberg-germany-53d7c3d9.html

this purports to be the entirety of the concert:

Bob Dylan Nuremberg 1978 (Nurnberg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeRM7Cwz-lE

}

Hubert Bruns
1 year ago (edited)
Please note the announcement of MASTERS OF WAR (at about 1:40:50): "Great pleasure to sing this in this place!". The location was the Zeppelinfeld aka Reichsparteitagsgelände where the nazi party celebrated itself in the 1930s. Incredible moment! I'm sorry for my bad English but I hope everybody will understand the meaning of my comment!
{

Nice remembrance in today's political climate, nicht wahr?

That said, i really prefer 58:06

take care,
rdd

Will Dockery

unread,
Nov 7, 2018, 11:45:48 AM11/7/18
to
"President_dudley" wrote in message
news:2793a7bd-248e-4722...@googlegroups.com...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Classic show from one of the greatest eras of Dylan performance poetry.... I
saw him, of course, a few months later up in Atlanta at the grand old Omni,
long ago demolished.

Will Dockery

unread,
Nov 14, 2018, 3:16:29 PM11/14/18
to
"Good Time Charley" wrote in message
news:f962231b-33b6-4126...@googlegroups.com...
> > Out damn standing...…………..
>
> The 1978 Street Legal tour, the last of what is now called the "Silver
> Age" of Dylan.

> A fine time to be alive...………………..

Indeed it was...

Will Dockery

unread,
Nov 23, 2018, 7:18:18 PM11/23/18
to
"General Zod" wrote in message
news:5d82899e-e8e5-4f3e...@googlegroups.com...
> Out damn standing...…………..

Agreed.

zodthe...@gmail.com

unread,
Dec 30, 2018, 5:53:11 AM12/30/18
to
On Thursday, October 9, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Brad Chapman wrote:
> Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
> going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
> Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
> the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
> where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
> and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
> what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
> do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
> Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
> lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!
>
> Brad Chapman
> chap...@pilot.msu.edu

Outstanding...…………..

Will Dockery

unread,
Jul 17, 2019, 2:49:13 AM7/17/19
to
Jim Harp wrote in message
news:db7b7db8-6b38-402a...@googlegroups.com...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sounds like a Hell of a show...

Just Walkin'

unread,
Jul 24, 2019, 10:59:31 AM7/24/19
to
On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 1:49:13 AM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> Jim Harp wrote in message
> > On Thursday, October 9, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Brad Chapman wrote:
> >
> > Hello! My friend is spending this semester over in Germany,and she is
> > going to be visiting Nuremberg, a site of a Nazi concentration camp.
> > Well, while she was listeing to some lecture about Nuremberg, she heard
> > the prof mention something about a Bob Dylan performance at Nuremberg
> > where, in the direct wording of my friend: "Bob Dylan sang there once
> > and he did something (i didntcatch what) taht showed that he realized
> > what had happened there and he was protesting that or something." (They
> > do speak German over there and all!). Anyways, does anyone know about a
> > Bob Dylan concert at Nuremberg, and have any kind of info--dates, set
> > lists, etc.. Thanks a lot for you time!
> >
> > Brad Chapman
>
> I Was @ the Concert. Eric Clapton, Bob Dillon, Muddy Waters and a German
> Band Called "Chicken Shack" recorded a live Album which Myself and all my
> Army Buddies wound up on the back of the album cover !We were about 30 feet
> from the stage. It rained but otherwise was an AWESOME Concert !!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sounds like a Hell of a show...

Or a show in Hell...

General Zod

unread,
Jul 26, 2019, 5:46:16 PM7/26/19
to
Dire but relevant....

georgethe...@gmail.com

unread,
Aug 9, 2019, 6:24:03 AM8/9/19
to
The "holocaust" is a fable. The National Socialist party was created and operated by jews, including homosexual faggot adolph hitler and his boyfriends. Look it up.

Andre Newton

unread,
Aug 20, 2019, 12:56:11 AM8/20/19
to
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:59:31 AM UTC-4, Just Walkin' wrote:
You have a point.....
0 new messages