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Ciccolini's new EMI CD with Beethoven's PC 3&4 and Thessaloniki State SO
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RiRiIII
Mar 9, 2012, 2:09:35 AM3/9/12
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EMI released this one:
http://www.tsso.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=509&Itemid=79&lang=en_GB
NEW RELEASE FROM ΕΜΙ CLASSICS
LEGENDARY PIANIST ALDO CICCOLINI PERFORMS
WITH THE THESSALONIKI STATE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
CONCERTOS NOS. 3 & 4 BY LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
CONDUCTOR: MYRON MICHAILIDIS
IN CO-PRODUCTION WITH THE
THESSALONIKI CONCERT HALL
The historic collaboration of legendary pianist Aldo Ciccolini with the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra in Concertos nos. 3 & 4 by Ludwig van Beethoven is expected to be released soon on CD from ΕΜΙ Classics. This is a co-production between the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra and the Thessaloniki Concert Hall, in whose premises the recording took place during 26-31 May 2008. The T.S.S.O. is led by conductor Myron Michailidis, its Artistic Director until recently and currently Artistic Director of the Greek National Opera.
The collaboration of the T.S.S.O. with the great artist – indeed, in works from the standard classical repertoire – undoubtedly marks the highest point in its international recording career to date. It is also worth noting that this is the first time the living legend of the piano makes a studio recording of concertos by Beethoven and, in any case, the first ever official recording of two Beethoven concertos by Aldo Ciccolini.
“I am impressed and happy to have collaborated with this orchestra, brilliantly conducted by maestro Myron Michailidis, who knows what he is doing... A partnership that will remain in memory for long – thank you!” This is what Aldo Ciccolini had stated in May 2006, immediately following his first concert with the T.S.S.O. in Thessaloniki. Τhe special chemistry shared by Ciccolini-Michailidis-T.S.S.O. resulted in concert tours abroad, such as the tour to Florence (November 2009), and also in the already historic recording of these two piano concertos by Beethoven.
“I will not hesitate to declare that this is perhaps the single most significant artistic moment heretofore in the T.S.S.O.’s history. It is equally an important moment in the cooperation between the two large cultural organizations of Thessaloniki. It is ultimately the rewarding accomplishment of everyone involved in this joint effort and, above all, of the T.S.S.O. musicians, who deserve to be extremely proud for this artistic achievement. For me personally it is a unique moment, because, in addition to my new international recording project with the T.S.S.O. I collaborated and became a friend to a great pianist, whom I admired since childhood!”, says Myron Michailidis.
Credits
Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra - Thessaloniki Concert Hall
Ludwig van Beethoven: Concerto for Piano and Orchestra no. 3 in C minor, op. 37
1. I. Allegro con brio (Cadenza: Carl Reinecke, op. 87 no. 3)
2. II. Largo
3. III. Rondo: Allegro
Ludwig van Beethoven: Concerto for Piano and Orchestra no. 4 in G major, op. 58
4. I. Allegro moderato (Cadenza: Cadenza I, Ludwig van Beethoven)
5. II. Andante con moto
6. III. Rondo: Vivace (Cadenza: Ludwig van Beethoven)
Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra
Piano: Aldo Ciccolini
Conductor: Myron Michailidis
Recorded at Thessaloniki Concert Hall, Thessaloniki, Greece
26-31 May 2008
Producer: Dirk Lüdemann
Engineer: Dominik Blech
http://www.tsso.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=509&Itemid=79&lang=en_GB
NEW RELEASE FROM ΕΜΙ CLASSICS
LEGENDARY PIANIST ALDO CICCOLINI PERFORMS
WITH THE THESSALONIKI STATE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
CONCERTOS NOS. 3 & 4 BY LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
CONDUCTOR: MYRON MICHAILIDIS
IN CO-PRODUCTION WITH THE
THESSALONIKI CONCERT HALL
The historic collaboration of legendary pianist Aldo Ciccolini with the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra in Concertos nos. 3 & 4 by Ludwig van Beethoven is expected to be released soon on CD from ΕΜΙ Classics. This is a co-production between the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra and the Thessaloniki Concert Hall, in whose premises the recording took place during 26-31 May 2008. The T.S.S.O. is led by conductor Myron Michailidis, its Artistic Director until recently and currently Artistic Director of the Greek National Opera.
The collaboration of the T.S.S.O. with the great artist – indeed, in works from the standard classical repertoire – undoubtedly marks the highest point in its international recording career to date. It is also worth noting that this is the first time the living legend of the piano makes a studio recording of concertos by Beethoven and, in any case, the first ever official recording of two Beethoven concertos by Aldo Ciccolini.
“I am impressed and happy to have collaborated with this orchestra, brilliantly conducted by maestro Myron Michailidis, who knows what he is doing... A partnership that will remain in memory for long – thank you!” This is what Aldo Ciccolini had stated in May 2006, immediately following his first concert with the T.S.S.O. in Thessaloniki. Τhe special chemistry shared by Ciccolini-Michailidis-T.S.S.O. resulted in concert tours abroad, such as the tour to Florence (November 2009), and also in the already historic recording of these two piano concertos by Beethoven.
“I will not hesitate to declare that this is perhaps the single most significant artistic moment heretofore in the T.S.S.O.’s history. It is equally an important moment in the cooperation between the two large cultural organizations of Thessaloniki. It is ultimately the rewarding accomplishment of everyone involved in this joint effort and, above all, of the T.S.S.O. musicians, who deserve to be extremely proud for this artistic achievement. For me personally it is a unique moment, because, in addition to my new international recording project with the T.S.S.O. I collaborated and became a friend to a great pianist, whom I admired since childhood!”, says Myron Michailidis.
Credits
Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra - Thessaloniki Concert Hall
Ludwig van Beethoven: Concerto for Piano and Orchestra no. 3 in C minor, op. 37
1. I. Allegro con brio (Cadenza: Carl Reinecke, op. 87 no. 3)
2. II. Largo
3. III. Rondo: Allegro
Ludwig van Beethoven: Concerto for Piano and Orchestra no. 4 in G major, op. 58
4. I. Allegro moderato (Cadenza: Cadenza I, Ludwig van Beethoven)
5. II. Andante con moto
6. III. Rondo: Vivace (Cadenza: Ludwig van Beethoven)
Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra
Piano: Aldo Ciccolini
Conductor: Myron Michailidis
Recorded at Thessaloniki Concert Hall, Thessaloniki, Greece
26-31 May 2008
Producer: Dirk Lüdemann
Engineer: Dominik Blech
RiRiIII
Mar 9, 2012, 2:10:58 AM3/9/12
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herman
Mar 9, 2012, 3:09:27 AM3/9/12
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never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
RiRiIII
Mar 9, 2012, 9:50:52 AM3/9/12
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On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
Agreed but it's the press release as published at their website.
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
Matthew B. Tepper
Mar 9, 2012, 10:24:23 AM3/9/12
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> On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
>> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
>
> Agreed but it's the press release as published at their website.
In other words, it's just the usual worthless PR puffery.
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> On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
>> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
>
> Agreed but it's the press release as published at their website.
--
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basnperson
Mar 9, 2012, 11:01:32 AM3/9/12
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On Mar 9, 3:09 am, herman <her...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
why not, we consider you 'legendary' :-)
> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
Ab
O
Mar 9, 2012, 12:42:24 PM3/9/12
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In article <XnsA0114B430AA...@216.168.3.70>,
-Owen
Matthew B. Tepper <oyţ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> RiRiIII <alex_...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the following letters
> to be typed in news:17025398.947.1331304652485.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
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>
> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
> >> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
> >
> > Agreed but it's the press release as published at their website.
>
> In other words, it's just the usual worthless PR puffery.
No. It is legendary PR puffery.
> RiRiIII <alex_...@hotmail.com> appears to have caused the following letters
> to be typed in news:17025398.947.1331304652485.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
> forums@ynjc20:
>
> > On Friday, March 9, 2012 10:09:27 AM UTC+2, herman wrote:
> >> never use the word "legendary" for a living person.
> >
> > Agreed but it's the press release as published at their website.
>
> In other words, it's just the usual worthless PR puffery.
-Owen
O
Mar 9, 2012, 12:43:48 PM3/9/12
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In article
<72bb7d40-5cab-420a...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Reports of herman's legendary status are greatly exaggerated.
-Owen
<72bb7d40-5cab-420a...@m2g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
-Owen
John Thomas
Mar 9, 2012, 3:22:22 PM3/9/12
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In article <090320121243487663%ow...@denofinequityx.com>,
O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> won't be legendary until 2017 and:
Actually it's Tepper who's legendary. Herman is just a latecomer and
won't be legendary until 2017.
--
John Thomas
O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> won't be legendary until 2017 and:
won't be legendary until 2017.
--
John Thomas
td
Mar 9, 2012, 6:37:54 PM3/9/12
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On Mar 9, 2:10 am, RiRiIII <alex_ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:09:35 AM UTC+2, RiRiIII wrote:
> > EMI released this one:
>
> >http://www.tsso.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=509&Item...
> On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:09:35 AM UTC+2, RiRiIII wrote:
> > EMI released this one:
>
Naturally the French will release this recording. Ciccolini is
something of a legend in France.
I seem to recall that the pianist recorded the Pico 3 (with Cluytens?)
in the very early days of LP. It was, indeed, one of his very first
recordings for EMI and will be in that massive box of all his EMI
recordings, which is now made obsolete with this new release.
TD
John Wiser
Mar 9, 2012, 9:11:00 PM3/9/12
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"O" <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote in message
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That is the stuff of legend.
JDW
news:090320121243487663%ow...@denofinequityx.com...
JDW
Matthew B. Tepper
Mar 9, 2012, 9:12:15 PM3/9/12
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John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
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That's "legen -- wait for it! -- dary!"
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Dufus
Mar 9, 2012, 9:14:52 PM3/9/12
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>On Mar 9, 8:12 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> That's "legen -- wait for it! -- dary!"
Isn't that the name of a Southie bar ?
> That's "legen -- wait for it! -- dary!"
Dufus
O
Mar 9, 2012, 10:23:15 PM3/9/12
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In article
<2b2f9cb4-9c32-46d8...@w29g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>,
Just for the lactose tolerant.
-Owen
<2b2f9cb4-9c32-46d8...@w29g2000yqw.googlegroups.com>,
-Owen
Steve de Mena
Mar 10, 2012, 6:55:33 AM3/10/12
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On 3/9/12 3:37 PM, td wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2:10 am, RiRiIII<alex_ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:09:35 AM UTC+2, RiRiIII wrote:
>>> EMI released this one:
>>
>>> http://www.tsso.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=509&Item...
>>
>>> NEW RELEASE FROM ΕΜΙ CLASSICS
>>
>>> LEGENDARY PIANIST ALDO CICCOLINI PERFORMS
>>> WITH THE THESSALONIKI STATE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
>>
>>> CONCERTOS NOS. 3& 4 BY LUDWIG VAN BEETHOVEN
> On Mar 9, 2:10 am, RiRiIII<alex_ri...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, March 9, 2012 9:09:35 AM UTC+2, RiRiIII wrote:
>>> EMI released this one:
>>
>>> http://www.tsso.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=509&Item...
>>
>>> NEW RELEASE FROM ΕΜΙ CLASSICS
>>
>>> LEGENDARY PIANIST ALDO CICCOLINI PERFORMS
>>> WITH THE THESSALONIKI STATE SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA
>>
>>
>>> CONDUCTOR: MYRON MICHAILIDIS
>>
>>> IN CO-PRODUCTION WITH THE
>>> THESSALONIKI CONCERT HALL
>>
>>> The historic collaboration of legendary pianist Aldo Ciccolini with the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra in Concertos nos. 3& 4 by Ludwig van Beethoven is expected to be released soon on CD from ΕΜΙ Classics. This is a co-production between the Thessaloniki State Symphony Orchestra and the Thessaloniki Concert Hall, in whose premises the recording took place during 26-31 May 2008. The T.S.S.O. is led by conductor Myron Michailidis, its Artistic Director until recently and currently Artistic Director of the Greek National Opera.
>>> CONDUCTOR: MYRON MICHAILIDIS
>>
>>> IN CO-PRODUCTION WITH THE
>>> THESSALONIKI CONCERT HALL
>>
obsolete as it is titled "Enregistrements EMI 1950 - 1991".
I don't believe this is an EMI France issue. The back cover is flooded
with web links and mentions of the 2nd rate Greek orchestra on the
recording (who probably funded this as a vanity release) and the
copyright/release information at the bottom doesn't mention EMI Music
France as I would expect. I think it says Copyright "Minos EMI SA"
(EMI Greece).
Steve
td
Mar 10, 2012, 8:05:23 AM3/10/12
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of the very earliest French Pathe recordings with Ciccolini.
Frankly, I didn't check the limitations of that complete Ciccolini EMI
box's title. Wonder if it preceeded 1950? On the other hand, Ciccolini
only won the Marguerite Long Competition in 1949; that was what
started it all. Perhaps I was thinking of Tchaikovsky 1 with Cluytens,
but I have an image in my mind of Beethoven 3. Perhaps that was Samson
Francois? No matter, in any event.
> I don't believe this is an EMI France issue. The back cover is flooded
> with web links and mentions of the 2nd rate Greek orchestra on the
> recording (who probably funded this as a vanity release) and the
> copyright/release information at the bottom doesn't mention EMI Music
> France as I would expect. I think it says Copyright "Minos EMI SA"
> (EMI Greece).
branch of EMI. I agree that it wasn't recorded BY EMI in London and
certainly not at Abbey Road, of course. This is a recording they
picked up for next to nothing locally in Thessalonika and issued first
in Greece and then in France, where Ciccolini is something of a
legend.
Incidentally, Ciccolini has made many recordings for other labels
since EMI abandoned him. They include the complete Beethoven Sonatas.
TD
Christopher Howell
Mar 11, 2012, 7:32:25 AM3/11/12
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On 10 Mar, 14:05, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
Perhaps I was thinking of Tchaikovsky 1 with Cluytens,
> but I have an image in my mind of Beethoven 3. Perhaps that was Samson
> Francois? No matter, in any event.
>
Maybe Gabriel Tacchino (with Cluytens)?
Perhaps I was thinking of Tchaikovsky 1 with Cluytens,
> but I have an image in my mind of Beethoven 3. Perhaps that was Samson
> Francois? No matter, in any event.
>
Chris Howell
td
Mar 11, 2012, 9:00:46 AM3/11/12
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out the LP.
TD
basnperson
Mar 11, 2012, 10:54:55 AM3/11/12
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describe as a 'journeyman concert pianist'...... never have I heard a
truly outstanding performance in his recordings. Reliable, free of
eccentricities, etc. yes, but so what.
AB
td
Mar 11, 2012, 11:11:11 AM3/11/12
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pianists before the public today. That's just a fact and I don't
expect that your opinion counts for much in the general adoration for
Ciccolini in France and indeed Italy. Remember, he was one of the
early Gold Medal winners in the Marguerite Long Competition way back
in 1947. Feltsman is also highly considered; he too won that
competition. As did Samson Francois, of course.
TD
Bob Harper
Mar 11, 2012, 3:45:36 PM3/11/12
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(snip)
but I've always liked Ciccolini's Saint-Saens Concerti (O de
Paris/Baudo) in preference to any others I've heard. Imprinting, maybe,
but that's what my ears tell me.
Bob Harper
>>
>> don't understand the fuss over Ciccolini. IMO he is what one would
>> describe as a 'journeyman concert pianist'...... never have I heard a
>> truly outstanding performance in his recordings. Reliable, free of
>> eccentricities, etc. yes, but so what.
>
> Well, tastes differ. In France he is considered one of the greatest
> pianists before the public today. That's just a fact and I don't
> expect that your opinion counts for much in the general adoration for
> Ciccolini in France and indeed Italy. Remember, he was one of the
> early Gold Medal winners in the Marguerite Long Competition way back
> in 1947. Feltsman is also highly considered; he too won that
> competition. As did Samson Francois, of course.
>
> TD
>
I don't claim any expertise in pianism (or much else, for that matter),
>> don't understand the fuss over Ciccolini. IMO he is what one would
>> describe as a 'journeyman concert pianist'...... never have I heard a
>> truly outstanding performance in his recordings. Reliable, free of
>> eccentricities, etc. yes, but so what.
>
> Well, tastes differ. In France he is considered one of the greatest
> pianists before the public today. That's just a fact and I don't
> expect that your opinion counts for much in the general adoration for
> Ciccolini in France and indeed Italy. Remember, he was one of the
> early Gold Medal winners in the Marguerite Long Competition way back
> in 1947. Feltsman is also highly considered; he too won that
> competition. As did Samson Francois, of course.
>
> TD
>
but I've always liked Ciccolini's Saint-Saens Concerti (O de
Paris/Baudo) in preference to any others I've heard. Imprinting, maybe,
but that's what my ears tell me.
Bob Harper
basnperson
Mar 11, 2012, 3:46:38 PM3/11/12
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recital in Carnegie and it was a big disappointment
AB
Gerard
Mar 11, 2012, 4:44:19 PM3/11/12
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Bob Harper <bob.h...@comcast.net> typed:
His recordings were my "imprinting" recordings too.
But I prefer the recordings by any other pianist I've heard.
But I prefer the recordings by any other pianist I've heard.
Bob Harper
Mar 11, 2012, 5:23:41 PM3/11/12
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On 3/11/12 12:46 PM, basnperson wrote:
(snip)
ago and was anything but disappointed. Fabulous playing. Nor is his
recording of the WTC anything to sneeze at AFAIAC.
Bob Harper
(snip)
>
> Feltsman is a fraud so far as i am concerned.......I heard his debut
> recital in Carnegie and it was a big disappointment
>
> AB
Well, I heard him play a couple of Haydn sonatas in Portland a few weeks
> Feltsman is a fraud so far as i am concerned.......I heard his debut
> recital in Carnegie and it was a big disappointment
>
> AB
ago and was anything but disappointed. Fabulous playing. Nor is his
recording of the WTC anything to sneeze at AFAIAC.
Bob Harper
Bob Harper
Mar 11, 2012, 5:25:06 PM3/11/12
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prefer and why?
Bob Harper
Gerard
Mar 11, 2012, 6:03:41 PM3/11/12
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It's real entertainment music that requires a lot of flair and sparkle.
Entremont (with Ormandy IIRC) delivered it, and Collard with Previn. Even Rogé
and Dutoit.
I've never heard Hough, but found his recordings today in a record store. Is it
"safe" to keep avoiding them?
Matthew B. Tepper
Mar 11, 2012, 6:37:33 PM3/11/12
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> Feltsman is a fraud so far as i am concerned.......I heard his debut
> recital in Carnegie and it was a big disappointment
I've never much cared for André-Michel Schub.
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> Feltsman is a fraud so far as i am concerned.......I heard his debut
> recital in Carnegie and it was a big disappointment
RiRiIII
Mar 12, 2012, 4:25:10 AM3/12/12
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http://www.tch.gr/default.aspx?lang=en-GB&page=11
The conductor http://www.myronmichailidis.net/2.html) is currently the director of the Greek National Opera and has made a Naxos CD with works by Pizzeti that had received the distinction of 5 Diapasons: http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//8572013.htm
and another with works for Sax and Orcehstra by Greek composers. http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//8557992.htm
Alex.-
td
Mar 12, 2012, 6:46:47 AM3/12/12
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You mean he can't really play the piano?
That it isn't him playing the piano?
What, precisely, is "fraudulent"?
TD
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