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Kenneth Kwan

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Oct 3, 2005, 1:28:23 PM10/3/05
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Challenge Classics

CC72142

13 CD-Box
100 Page Booklet

608917214222


Willem van Otterloo
Residency Orchestra
The Original Recordings 1950-1960

Willem van Otterloo was by no means a dictatorial conductor, nor was he
a glamour-seeker or showman. The music itself had the highest priority.
His thorough knowledge of each and every score was legendary, and he
conducted nearly all the larger works from memory. But above all he was
a true orchestral trainer. From this legendary conductor we now have an
unique document in our hands. It consists of 38 works (from a total of
125) which where recorded for Philips in the years 1950-60 with the
Residency Orchestra The Hague. Also there are two DGG recordings of
Haydn symphonies from 1962. The 13 cd's are all digitally remasterd
and a 100-page booklet is written by Otto Ketting. This box is a real
event: here musical history is written ánd immortalized.

13 cd box | digitally remastered | 100 page booklet

CD 1
Hector Berlioz - Symphonie fantastique
Carl Maria von Weber / Hector Berlioz - Aufforderung zum Tanz
Johan Wagenaar - De Getemde Feeks (Overture) (The Taming of the Shrew)
Johan Wagenaar - Cyrano de Bergerac (Overture)

CD 2
Max Reger - Variations and Fugue on a Theme of Mozart
Max Reger - Eine romantische Suite
Alphons Diepenbrock - Music to Sophocles' Tragedy Elektra

CD 3
Maurice Ravel - Valses nobles et sentimentales
Maurice Ravel - Suites No.1 and No.2 from Daphnis et Chloé (Nederlands
Kamerkoor)
Modest Moussorgsky / Maurice Ravel - Pictures at an Exhibition

CD 4
Joseph Haydn - Symphony No.45
Joseph Haydn - Symphony No.55
Joseph Haydn - Symphony No.92
Robert Schumann - Overture Manfred

CD 5
Franz Schubert - Symphony No.8 'Unfinished'
Franz Schubert - From Rosamunde:
Entr'acte No.3, Balletmusic No.2
Gustav Mahler - Kindertotenlieder (Herman Schey, baritone)

CD 6
Gustav Mahler - Symphony No.4 (Teresa Stich- Randall, soprano)
Sergey Rachmaninov - Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini (Abbey Simon,
piano)

CD 7
Anton Bruckner - Symphony No.4 'Romantic Symphony'
Anton Bruckner - Overture in G Minor

CD 8
Maurice Ravel - Pavane pour une infante défunte
Manuel de Falla - Three dances from El sombrero de tres picos
Morton Gould - Interplay 'American Concertette' (Cor de Groot,
piano)
Morton Gould - Spirituals
Sergey Prokofiev - Concerto No.3 for piano and orchestra (Alexander
Uninsky, piano)

CD 9
Léon Orthel - Symphony No.2 'Piccola sinfonia'
Sem Dresden - Dansflitsen (Dance flashes)
Hendrik Andriessen - Variations and Fugue on a Theme of Kuhnau
Hendrik Andriessen - Ricercare
Henk Badings - Symphony No.3

CD 10
Edvard Grieg - 4 Norwegische Tänze (4 Norwegian Dances)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Die Geschöpfe des Prometheus

CD 11
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No.8
Ludwig van Beethoven - Overture Die Weihe des Hauses (The consecration
of the House)
Johannes Brahms - Symphony No.1

CD 12
Johannes Brahms - Tragische Ouvertüre (Tragic Overture)
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No.9 (Erna Spoorenberg, soprano, Maria
von Ilosvay, alto, Frans Vroons, tenor, Herman Schey, bass,
Toonkunstkoor Amsterdam)

CD 13
Ludwig van Beethoven - Symphony No.4
Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky - Symphony No.4

This CD box is an initiative of the Willem van Otterloo Foundation and
was made possible through generous contribution of the ThuisKopie
Fonds, the Prins Bernhard Cultuur Fonds, Buma and the Kersjes van de
Groenekan Fonds.

Gerard

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Oct 3, 2005, 1:36:16 PM10/3/05
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Kenneth Kwan wrote:
> http://www.challenge.nl/
>
> Challenge Classics
>
> CC72142
>
> 13 CD-Box
> 100 Page Booklet
>
> 608917214222
>
.......

>
> This CD box is an initiative of the Willem van Otterloo Foundation and
> was made possible through generous contribution of the ThuisKopie
> Fonds, the Prins Bernhard Cultuur Fonds, Buma and the Kersjes van de
> Groenekan Fonds.


Since 1 or 2 weeks available.
Have a look at http://www.kuijperklassiek.nl/ (at the bottom of that page).


sidoze

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Oct 3, 2005, 1:45:08 PM10/3/05
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> Sergey Prokofiev - Concerto No.3 for piano and orchestra (Alexander
Uninsky, piano)

Did Uninsky ever record this commercially?

sidoze

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Oct 3, 2005, 1:47:52 PM10/3/05
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>Did Uninsky ever record this commercially?

Nevermind. I went straight to the track listing and ignored the (on
this occasion useful) preamble.

Rolf

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Oct 3, 2005, 3:08:19 PM10/3/05
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Challange and not Universal! That's suprising! What is also nice (for
me) is that the cd's are not overlapping with what I had planned to put
at my website. Only the Beethoven 9th was something I posted a couple
of weeks ago. Nice to see some exact record dates, don't need Tom's
catalogues anymore......

Rolf

Tom Deacon

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Oct 3, 2005, 4:39:57 PM10/3/05
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On 10/3/05 1:45 PM, in article
1128361508.4...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "sidoze"
<sid...@gmail.com> wrote:

That IS a commercial recording, for Philips.

TD

Tom Deacon

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Oct 3, 2005, 4:41:27 PM10/3/05
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On 10/3/05 3:08 PM, in article
1128366499.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, "Rolf"
<78...@angelfire.com> wrote:

The catalogues, unfortunately, do not provide exact recording dates. Those
are ONLY available on the tapes themselves and on a cardfile in Baarn.

TD

Roland van Gaalen

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Oct 3, 2005, 4:45:49 PM10/3/05
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If I may ask an ungracious question:

What is so special about the recordings by Van Otterloo and his orchestra?

I should add that I haven't heard any.

But let's not assume that all conductors who have been dead for several
decades are automatically in the same league with Furtwangler etc.
--
Roland van Gaalen
Amsterdam
r.p.vangaalenATchello.nl (AT=@)


Simon Roberts

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Oct 3, 2005, 5:22:34 PM10/3/05
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In article <bb912$4341987f$1884fe40$7...@news.chello.nl>, Roland van Gaalen
says...

>
>If I may ask an ungracious question:
>
>What is so special about the recordings by Van Otterloo and his orchestra?
>
>I should add that I haven't heard any.
>
>But let's not assume that all conductors who have been dead for several
>decades are automatically in the same league with Furtwangler etc.

How dare you: the blurb quoted in the first post in this thread says he's a
"legend"!

By the way, if you want to try his conducting without buying 13 discs, Philips
released his Mahler 4 fairly recently (though I must confess I bought it for
Stich-Randall's singing rather than the conducting).

Simon

Tom Deacon

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Oct 3, 2005, 8:06:08 PM10/3/05
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On 10/3/05 4:45 PM, in article bb912$4341987f$1884fe40$7...@news.chello.nl,


"Roland van Gaalen" <SeeSig...@deadspam.com> wrote:

> If I may ask an ungracious question:
>
> What is so special about the recordings by Van Otterloo and his orchestra?
>
> I should add that I haven't heard any.
>
> But let's not assume that all conductors who have been dead for several
> decades are automatically in the same league with Furtwangler etc.


You ask a very good question, Roland.

To some, each and every recording never reissued on CD is made of gold,
until, that is, it is released, critiqued, and then discarded.

The Van Otterloo recordings - I had no idea there were so many, in fact -
were never suggested by any of the operating companies of Philips for urgent
reissue. Neither, of course, were any of the recordings included in the now
defunct - at least I believe so - Dutch Masters series. The exceptions were
the Van Beinum recordings, I would say, although even there no real market
could be found for them.

As for Van Otterloo, there was a Berlioz performance, the Symphonie
fantastique, which was supposed to be OK. I just don't recall the nature of
the performance or the playing. The rest are terra incognita for me, and
must be for most.

Oh, I forgot. The Abbey Simon Rhapsody I do own on LP. It's ok. Sans plus.

TD

gggg...@gmail.com

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Jan 10, 2016, 4:00:56 AM1/10/16
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Concerning his Suite No.1 from Daphnis et Chloé, it's on Youtube and is magically beautiful.

Terry

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Jan 12, 2016, 6:25:20 PM1/12/16
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Actually, it's been available for some years. (I bought mine from the Hague Residentie, which seemed to be the only place you could get it, back in 2010). I recommend the set very warmly. I have never heard a better performance of the Berlioz Fantastique, and I've heard a few. The Beethoven 9 and the Daphnis et Chloë are outstanding. It's a box I keep dipping into.

Frank Berger

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Jan 12, 2016, 6:47:23 PM1/12/16
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You responded to a 10 year-old post. It was "coming" then.

hiker_rs

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Jan 12, 2016, 7:35:51 PM1/12/16
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I think it's a matter a time before we have a multi-generational post... you know, a young man responding to something his father wrote when he was the same age.

Perhaps like a Cat Stevens or maybe Neil Young song (Old man, look at my life I collect a lot like you did...)

:)

Frank Berger

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Jan 12, 2016, 9:19:47 PM1/12/16
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LOL

Terry

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Jan 12, 2016, 11:46:54 PM1/12/16
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Christ! Can't we do something about this fuckwit gggggggg?

Terry

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Jan 13, 2016, 12:06:37 AM1/13/16
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Yes, I did too... evenually.

Herman

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Jan 13, 2016, 5:45:12 AM1/13/16
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Can you imagine what kind of stuff this guy is posting on a wine forum?

O

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Jan 13, 2016, 8:37:03 AM1/13/16
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In article <9d247d5b-e88a-43d0...@googlegroups.com>,
It will certainly be well aged.

-Owen

joey7c...@yahoo.com

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Jan 13, 2016, 1:01:09 PM1/13/16
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Naturally, RMCR fractions and enemies should also have their contempt handed down to offspring i.e. Hatfields and McCoys.

Frank Berger

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Jan 13, 2016, 3:42:48 PM1/13/16
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On 1/13/2016 1:01 PM, joey7c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Naturally, RMCR fractions and enemies should also have their contempt handed down to offspring i.e. Hatfields and McCoys.
>

I could dick up some of my old arguments with Mark Stenroos
and get in the last word.

Frank Berger

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Jan 13, 2016, 3:43:43 PM1/13/16
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On 1/13/2016 1:01 PM, joey7c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Naturally, RMCR fractions and enemies should also have their contempt handed down to offspring i.e. Hatfields and McCoys.
>

That should have been "dig" not "dick." I don't think that
was a revealing error, but who knows?

gggg gggg

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Oct 31, 2022, 12:35:36 PM10/31/22
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(2022 Y. upload):

"Willem van Otterloo dirigiert Brahms Symphony Nr. 1"
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