Favorite trombonist?
ric
"Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
Steve Solomon
"Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best LIVING
trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites? >>>
Did see Curtis Fuller last year in a tribute to the Jazz Messengers.
Franky it was somewhat less than inspiring.
Picked up the new Roswell Rudd CD. "Malicool" a while back. The track,
"Bamako" was indeed very inspiring.
Steve Solomon
Alan Young
Solomon <Stev...@webtv.net> wrote:
> Did see Curtis Fuller last year in a tribute to the Jazz Messengers.
> Franky it was somewhat less than inspiring.
Of course, Fuller is *well* past his prime. He could be my all-time
favorite, but his current performance is no measure of his
contributions.
As far as recent performances-- A couple years ago I heard Delfaio
(sp?) Marsalis playing with Elvin Jones. He was fine.
> Picked up the new Roswell Rudd CD. "Malicool" a while back. The track,
> "Bamako" was indeed very inspiring.
--
Alan
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- Samuel Beckett
Tom Sutpen
(along with Miff Mole, natch).
Tom Sutpen
Bobby Knight
Andy Martin, Bob McChesney, Bill Watrous is still around...
bk
Steve Solomon
Did see Curtis Fuller last year in a tribute to the Jazz Messengers.
Franky it was somewhat less than inspiring.
<<<Of course, Fuller is *well* past his prime. He could be my all-time
favorite, but his current performance is no measure of his
contributions.>>>
In no way did I mean the performance I saw was a "measure of his
contributions". I know Fuller from his stuff in the 60's and thats what
I was comparing to. For the record, his version "The Breeze and I" from
album Soul Trombone is the absolute definitive version.
BTW Grachan Moncur hasn't been mentioned. ASFAIK he's still going. Gotta
love those collaborations with Jackie McLean he did on Blue Note in the
60's.
Steve Solomon
Donald Nania
I've seen this guy twice in the past two years and both
times he blew the socks off me.
His technique is unquestionably superb and he has a great feel
for many styles of jazz from Ellington to Bebop. He does a fine job
at interpreting Monk as well.
He does this neat thing with a pixie mute and a plunger
that makes the horn sound like a babby talking.
When he opens up watch out.... He must have lungs of steel!!
If you ever get the chance to see him in person don't pass it up.
Don Nania
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> I've gotta put Wycliffe Gordon at or near the top.
>
> I've seen this guy twice in the past two years and both
> times he blew the socks off me.
>
> I second that. He played recently together with the HR bigband from radio
Frankfurt (Germany) and played a superfast "Cherokee" and never loosing
control.
Absolutely top.
W.B.
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Steve Swell with Jemeel Moondoc, William Parker and Hamid Drake, truly
a supergroup and all of them lived up to large expectations.
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> BTW Grachan Moncur hasn't been mentioned. ASFAIK he's still going. Gotta
> love those collaborations with Jackie McLean he did on Blue Note in the
> 60's.
Moncur gets my vote. Then there's Funky Fred Wesley, he's on the list.
Kurt
Joseph Scott
> Too bad Jack Teagarden isn't still with us. He'd be at the top of my list
> (along with Miff Mole, natch).
>
> Tom Sutpen
I like Mole a lot better than Teagarden -- more accurate pitch,
prettier tone, more interesting melodic ideas. Never have understood
why Teagarden's so popular. People bring up bluesiness all the time,
but imo as far as blues is concerned Jack's just another jazz
musician. One thing you often see is that when Jack arrived in New
York he revolutionized jazz trombone in New York, but that romantic
notion doesn't make much sense when you look at how many fine jazz
trombonists were already there well before that including Miff.
I confess my favorites are not alive. Some of them would be Vic
Dickenson, Benny Morton, Joe Nanton, and Earl Swope.
Joseph Scott
Papa Andy
> "Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
> LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
Albert Mangelsdorff
A
Donald Nania
Yes, how can we forget him!!
I haven't heard him in years but the stuff he did
back in the 70's was tremendous.
He probably had (has?) the greatest range of any modern trombonist.
Unfortunately most of his 1970's releases have not been reissued
on CD. The Manhattan Wildlife Refuge issues on Columbia from the
mid-70's
are terrific and I have a quintet album he did with Nick Brignola
on Sea Breeze that's burnin'; trombone actually blended
quite nicely with the baritone. The latter has been issued
on CD BTW.
I recently picked up a CD issue of his "Bone Straight Ahead"
(Famous Door)
album from the early 1970's with Danny Stiles on trumpet that is
pretty good as well.
I haven't really listened to any of his more current releases.
Does he still tour? How have his chopps held up?
Does he still have it?????????
Don
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Piotr Michalowski
I admit to sharing your tastes, with a soft spot for Dickenson. In a
completely different manner, I would also want to mention George Lewis,
Roswell Rudd (who in many ways is a descendant of Nanton & Co.),and
especially Albert Mangelsdorf, who is probably the most original
trombonist in the "post-bop" era.
Piotr
bkn...@conramp.net
wrote:
>Bill Watrous...............
>Yes, how can we forget him!!
<clip>
> I haven't really listened to any of his more current releases.
>Does he still tour? How have his chopps held up?
>Does he still have it?????????
>
> Don
>
He has it. Go to www.billwatrous.com for updates.
sgo...@changethisparttohardbat.com
: Bill Watrous...............
: He probably had (has?) the greatest range of any modern trombonist.
I recently heard a recording he made about 10 years ago as a
featured guest on a local musician's CD, and I couldn't believe
how weak he sounded, compared to in his heyday.
Scott
Mike O'Sullivan
> Bill Watrous...............
> Yes, how can we forget him!!
>
I would guess that James Morrison would hold that honour today.
The Evil Empire
Zoot
Robin Eubanks took Pat Halorin's [? sp.] place at Oberlin. I like Pat.
for the dead i have to say rosilino or j j
Nick
I'm surprised to hear that. I have a CD he made about ten years ago
called "Time for Love," and he sounded as good as ever. I also saw him
live in 1993 and he sounded great then too.
Incredible player; he gets my vote for best ever. He had a terrific
big band in the 70's, the Manhattan Wildlife Refuge.
Nick Dempsey
For imagination, Mangelsdorff.
For whoop-ass, Frank Lacy.
But all-around, Robin Eubanks is the man. Just saw him again yesterday.
Damn.
--NPD
Chris
No one has mentioned Slide Hampton. His recent recording with the
Vanguard Jazz Orchestra is amazing. I love his new take on 'Frame For
the Blues' which alone is worth the cost of the recording.
Chris
sum1luvsu
> "Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
> LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
No one as funky as Fred Wesley.
lux lethor
> "Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
> LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
Rick Culver, Matt Niess (Capitol Bones), Andy Martin, Bob McChesney,
John Allred, Wycliffe Gordon, Rick Stepton, Glenn Ferris, Jay Ashby,
Ian MacDougall, Jim Pugh, Dave Steinmeyer, Allen Hermann, Bruce
Paulson, Steve Davis, Mike Davis, Conrad Herwig, Dave Bargeron, Ray
Anderson, John Fedchock, John Mosca, Juan Pablo Torres, Mark
Nightingale, Bill Reichenbach, Tom Garling, Ryan Haines ... just off
the top of my head.
The secret to finding great trombone players on recent CDs is DIGGING
through the bins at Borders, Tower Records, etc. and surfing online
constantly by just typing in names.
Has anyone heard more news of a Carl Fontana tribute albumn that
is/was supposed to be released this year. I heard wind of it in the
spring, then nothing. I certainly hope that Carl will be remembered
in the same fashion as Jay Jay. Along with the recent passing of
Jimmy Knepper, we lost three of the greatest and most
influential/inspiring who have ever played the horn.
LL
E.B.
on Steely Dan's last two tours :-P
Eric
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"The unbending tree branch is easily broken."
Kevin
The Mosaic select box of Moncur's two Blue Note recordings as a leader
and his four Blue Notes with Jackie McLean is superb.
Lenny Mazel
Ron Hearn
> Let's add Dan Barrett and Joel Helleny to the list.
From north of the border, Ian McDougall, Rob McConnell and Hugh Fraser.
ron
Mike O'Sullivan
> "Lenny Mazel" <len...@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:<JMadnS6AiJG...@adelphia.com>...
>
>>Let's add Dan Barrett and Joel Helleny to the list.
>
>
> From north of the border, Ian McDougall,
Picture here of Ian with the John Dankworth band, early 60s.
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Loudon Briggs
Though the header didn't indicate "jazz trombonists" that's what the
nominees all have in common, and I'll add one, "the lovely Kai
Winding." Some of the finest trombone work I ever heard, came from the
Kai and J.J. duo.
However, I think Tommy Dorsey stood alone in the big band genre...
beautiful tone and absolute command of his instrument.
--
Loudon Briggs lar...@bbz.net Phoenix, Arizona, USA)
ric
> Though the header didn't indicate "jazz trombonists" that's what the
> nominees all have in common, and I'll add one, "the lovely Kai
> Winding." Some of the finest trombone work I ever heard, came from the
> Kai and J.J. duo.
I guess that's the trouble with long threads (although at less than a
week, and less than 40 posts, this one isn't really long.) The OP asked
for LIVING and ACTIVE players. Having died in 1983, the superb Mr. Winding
qualifies for neither (nor do many of the other suggestions.)
Thanks for your input anyway.
ric
> Was zeroing in on trombonist Robin Eubanks' work on Dave Holland's
> "Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
> LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
Thanks, all. The list (some alive, some not; some active, some not):
Dan Barrett
Vic Dickenson
Robin Eubanks
Hugh Fraser
Curtis Fuller
Wycliffe Gordon
Dick Griffin
Slide Hampton
Joel Helleny
Frank Lacy
George Lewis
Albert Mangelsdorf
Delfeayo Marsalis
Andy Martin
Bob McChesney
Rob McConnell
Ian McDougall
Miff Mole
Grachan Moncur
James Morrison
Benny Morton
Joe Nanton
Mark Nightingale
Jim Pugh
Roswell Rudd
Steve Swell
Earl Swope
Jack Teagarden
Steve Turre
Bill Watrous
Fred Wesley
Kai Winding
ric
> Was zeroing in on trombonist Robin Eubanks' work on Dave Holland's
> "Not For Nothin'" and I was wondering: Who are some of the best
> LIVING trombonists still active in today's jazz scene? Favorites?
One last t-bone question: Is Chicago's James Pankow still active? I
recently saw Chicago on a TV talk show, and Mr. Pankow was absent.
Nick
I bought a DVD last year called "Chicago RAW (Real Artists Working)."
Pankow was on it, and also original members Robert Lamm, Walt
Parazaider, and Lee Loughnane. It was relatively recent, but of course
not up-to-the-minute.
It's hard to imagine Chicago without Pankow. Incidentally, it's a nice
DVD for any Chicago fans.
ric
> > One last t-bone question: Is Chicago's James Pankow still active? I
> > recently saw Chicago on a TV talk show, and Mr. Pankow was absent.
>
> I bought a DVD last year called "Chicago RAW (Real Artists Working)."
> Pankow was on it, and also original members Robert Lamm, Walt
> Parazaider, and Lee Loughnane. It was relatively recent, but of course
> not up-to-the-minute.
>
> It's hard to imagine Chicago without Pankow. Incidentally, it's a nice
> DVD for any Chicago fans.
Maybe he just didn't join the group for that particular show. I'm not
sure, but it might have been "Ellen." Glad to hear that he is still playing.
Mark Bradley
Turre. Check out the self titled "Steve Turre" on Verve from 1996.
This is (in my opinion) one of the top jazz albums of the 90s.
Mark Bradley
J.J. Johnson
Jack Teagarden is awfully fun to listen too, and that's saying
something when you consider we're talking about the trombone.
bkn...@conramp.net
Fontana, and little of Frank Rosolino?
bk
ric
> If we're including those that aren't with us, why no mention of Carl
> Fontana, and little of Frank Rosolino?
I guess you ended that miscarriage of justice, huh? <g>
I was looking for living, active musicians, but I guess some respondents
did not read the original post. When I compiled the list from the responses
I did not cross check with obituaries.
lux lethor
> For current, living trombonists I think the best guy going is Steve
> Turre. Check out the self titled "Steve Turre" on Verve from 1996.
> This is (in my opinion) one of the top jazz albums of the 90s.
I will agree with you that Steve Turre had some outstanding albums in
the mid-late 90s - Steve Turre, Lotus Flower, Rhythm Within. He has
also been a stellar sideman with Woody Shaw and more recently Horace
Silver on "Hardbop Grandpop." (1996 - coincidentally the same year as
"Steve Turre") In fact, his playing on Horace's album - especially "I
Want You" (cut 1) - is some of the finest, swingingest trombone
playing on record.
However, as of late, I have been very disappointed in his efforts.
"In the Spur ..." was just all right, but I found TNT almost
unlistenable in spots. Turre seems to be hung up for ideas throughout
the album, and his playing is less than articulate in many spots,
which truly shocked me seeing as I have always considered him one of
the most technically sound on the instrument. TNT led me not to buy
ONE4J, and that's rather remarkable because I try to buy EVERY new
release I can find with trombonist frontmen.
I'd be interested in hearing others' opinions on Turre's recent
recordings. Is it just me? Maybe I don't get what he's doing.
LL
lux lethor
Sam Burtis, George Bohanon, Alan Kaplan, Howard Prince, Louis Bonilla,
Clifton Anderson, Phil Ranelin (I think still living), Wayne
Henderson, Birch Johnson, Dave Taylor. More later.
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Bill Allred. Both are monster technicians (particularly John), and
exciting swinging players.
Scott
Adam Bravo
Yeah, I saw them a couple months ago with Earth Wind and Fire, and he was
there. He sounded good, too.
lux lethor
> Nobody has mentioned John Allred, the son of dixieland/swing trombonist
> Bill Allred. Both are monster technicians (particularly John), and
> exciting swinging players.
I did mention John Allred in my post. In case you didn't see that
post, here is my original list again:
Rick Culver, Matt Niess (Capitol Bones), Andy Martin, Bob McChesney,
John Allred, Wycliffe Gordon, Rick Stepton, Glenn Ferris, Jay Ashby,
Ian MacDougall, Jim Pugh, Dave Steinmeyer, Allen Hermann, Bruce
Paulson, Steve Davis, Mike Davis, Conrad Herwig, Dave Bargeron, Ray
Anderson, John Fedchock, John Mosca, Juan Pablo Torres, Mark
Nightingale, Bill Reichenbach, Tom Garling, Ryan Haines
Plus my additional list:
Sam Burtis, George Bohanon, Alan Kaplan, Howard Prince, Louis Bonilla,
Clifton Anderson, Phil Ranelin (I think still living), Wayne
Henderson, Birch Johnson, Dave Taylor.
And still more excellent LIVING trombonists:
Jiggs Whigham (how did I forget him?), Keith O'Quinn, Alain Trudel,
Ron Westray, Avi Lebo, Paul McKee, Bill Tole, Clifford Adams, Ron
Wilkins, Raul Desouza, Ed Neumiester, Curtis Fowlkes, Joseph Bowie,
Sammie Williams, Paul Ferguson, Phil Teele ... more later
lux lethor
ralph.j...@verizon.net
man, he sometimes sends Nick Lane (ex MF) in to sub.
ric
> James Pankow is still active and one of the owners of Chicago. Now a family
> man, he sometimes sends Nick Lane (ex MF) in to sub.
Thanks for the update.
guy f klose
are worth mentioning: Hal Crook (now at Berklee, but was on
the road with Phil Woods) and Jeff Galindo. They are fantastic
players.
There are other local guys (schools like Berklee and the New
England Conservatory have attracted quite a crop) that are
fine players, but I'm surprised that Hal and Jeff haven't
received more national notice (Hal really has, I just think
he likes to keep it low-key).
Guy