Battle Of The 60's Bands II
curtjester1
thing at least somewhere in the 60's. I am sure there are lots
missing, and for it to be a 'battle', I tried pitting a group that
would at least have some sort of similarity between the other. That
might be stretching it. The idea is to either vote, give a rating, or
make a comment about the 'battle'. Of course if you don't like the
selections, you can add yer own, and tell how bad the selections are
too...:). On rating, we did a 0 -10 last year, and that of course can
include, likes, influence, talent, poetry..etc. etc. Have fun, and
good luck.
1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
4. Chicago vs. Santana
5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
23. Small Faces vs. Them
24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
Obviously I left out single artists like James Brown, Bob Dylan,
Donavan and Neil Diamond even though they surely had bands, but they
weren't noted for them, and made it for those that had 2 and above.
So here they are, even though I should sit here and even this out to
50. This is somewhat of a scramble from last year's pittings and I am
sure a few groups were added.
CJ
RichL
> Here it is, the battle of the bands for groups that did their music
> thing at least somewhere in the 60's. I am sure there are lots
> missing, and for it to be a 'battle', I tried pitting a group that
> would at least have some sort of similarity between the other. That
> might be stretching it. The idea is to either vote, give a rating, or
> make a comment about the 'battle'. Of course if you don't like the
> selections, you can add yer own, and tell how bad the selections are
> too...:). On rating, we did a 0 -10 last year, and that of course can
> include, likes, influence, talent, poetry..etc. etc. Have fun, and
> good luck.
My opinions, reflecting my own tastes, only!
> 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
Beatles
> 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
Magoos
RichL
Choices based on personal taste *alone*!
I don't remember if I responded last year. If I did, my choices may
have been different.
> 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
Beatles, in terms of more lasting influence.
> 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
Magoos
> 3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
Seeds
> 4. Chicago vs. Santana
Santana by a long shot
> 5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
Moodies, though a tough call.
> 6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
Fish. "Gimme an F"
> 7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
Mothers. Zappa. Uh-huh.
> 8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
Too close to call.
> 9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
Freshmen
> 10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
Jan & Dean, close one
> 11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
Jaysus! Yer makin' it difficult! CSNY
> 12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
Zombies by a mile!
> 13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
Rascals
> 14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
Yardbirds, but close call
> 15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
Byrds
> 16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
Searchers
> 17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
Apples and oranges. If I only considered the Stones' work during the
period over which the Animals were active, I'd go with the Animals. If
overall, Stones.
> 18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
Hermits. But they're from different although slightly overlapping
periods.
> 19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
DC 5 barely
> 20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
Deep Purple
> 21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
Blind Faith
> 22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
Clock
> 23. Small Faces vs. Them
Them
> 24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
JHE
> 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
Mamas
> 26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
Beefheart
> 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
Brummels
> 28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
Gerry & co.
> 29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
Airplane
> 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
Dion
> 31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
Gary Lewis
> 32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
Kinks (though it pains me greatly to have to make *this* choice!)
> 33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
Dead
> 34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
Isley Bros
> 35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
Drifters
> 36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
Crickets.
> 37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
OMFG. Horrible comparison. Cher isn't in the same league.
Everly Brothers
> 38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
Chad & Jeremy
> 39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
Moby
> 40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
Allmans
> 41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
If Nugent weren't in the Dukes I'd pick 'em. But then again they
wouldn't be the Dukes then, would they?
Prunes.
> 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
Sly
> 43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
S&G
> 44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
Mitch
> 45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
Supremes
> 46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
Another tough call. Association only because of the harmonies.
> 47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
Coasters
> 48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
Tough again. PP&M by a nose.
> 49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
Tops.
Good poll, although some of the matchups are inappropriate in my
opinion.
LOL
The worst is Led Zeppelin vs Who. It should be Who vs Kinks (both are
part of the Mod culture). The Who is much older then Zep and part of
British Invasion. Led Zeppelin is not part of Brit Invasion.
The real battle should be
The Beatles vs The Beach Boys (both pop/rock)
The Rolling Stones vs The Animals (rock n roll/blues rock)
The Byrds vs The Yardbirds (psychedelic rock/rock n roll)
The Who vs The Kinks (mod rock/power pop)
Led Zeppelin vs Black Sabbath (hard rock/metal)
Yes vs Deep Purple (progressive hard rock?)
Pink Floyd vs Doors (psychedelic rock)
Jimi Hendrix Experience vs Cream (power trios)
rwalker
wrote:
I'll play
>
>> 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
Beatles
>
>> 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
Tough one, but I'll go with the Magoos.
>> 3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
Climax Blues Band
>
>> 4. Chicago vs. Santana
Santana. Sons of Champlin did Chicago better than Chicago, and did it
earlier. Not to surprisingly, Bill Champlin is now a member of
Chicago.
>
>> 5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
Pink Floyd, though I like a lot of the Moodies.
>> 6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
Another tough one, but I'll go with Big Brother.
>> 7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
Mothers.
>> 8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
Tie. Pete probably has a higher IQ than the collective IQ of the
Zeps, but Zep makes a hell of a noise.
>> 9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
Totally indifferent.
>> 10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
Ventures.
>> 11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
CSNY
>> 12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
Up till a year or so ago, I would have gone Zombies, but I picked up a
Raiders 2-disc anthology and was pretty impressed, more so than I
thought I would be.
>> 13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
Shondells.
>> 14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
Cream.
>> 15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
Byrds.
>> 16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
No opinion.
>> 17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
Stones.
>> 18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
Turtles. They had Flo and Eddie after all.
>> 19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
DC5.
>> 20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
Did someone else say apples and oranges for this one? Another tie.
>> 21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
Traffic.
>> 22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
Vanilla Fudge.
>> 23. Small Faces vs. Them
Another tie. I can't choose.
>> 24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
See number 23, though if pressed, I'd go with JHE.
>> 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
If we can forget the 70s output, I'd be tempted to go with BeeGees.
>> 26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
Beefheart.
>> 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
Beau Brummels.
>> 28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
Standells.
>> 29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
Airplane - but not Starship.
>> 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
No opinion.
>> 31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
Playboys.
>> 32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
Kinks.
>> 33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
The Band. I think Levon Helm is a great overlooked vocalist, drummer,
and mandolinist.
>> 34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
Miracles.
>> 35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
No opinions.
>> 36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
Crickets by a mile.
>> 37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
Everlys
>> 38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
P&G
>> 39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
Tie. I can't choose.
>> 40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
See number 39.
>> 41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
The Prunes. They're still releasing some good stuff. The Dukes had
one song.
>> 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
Sly in the long run. The Time Has Come album by the Chambers Brothers
is a great record, though. The title track is an early psychedelic
classic, and the rest of the album is great R&B and gospel flavored.
>> 43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
S&G
>> 44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
Spencer Davis Group.
>> 45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
Supremes.
>> 46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
Grass Roots.
>> 47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
No opinion.
>> 48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
PP and M - Puff the Magic Dragon was my first record.
>> 49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
Another tough one, but the Temps take the blue ribbon ultimately.
>>
>
>
curtjester1
It's hard to match up especially when I did it last year and wanted to
switch a lot. In rec.music.60's, they decided to give their scores as
2-8, 1-9, 6-4..etc. That was new and I kinda liked it. To LOL, I
thought the Who, Zep is good because of their unique abilities to use
the power chords to pizzazz a lot of their music. Most had a hard
time with that one. I had a hard time on a lot, and had to pass on
some...as I should have bought more albums...:).
CJ
The Arranger
> Here it is, the battle of the bands for groups that did their music
> thing at least somewhere in the 60's. I am sure there are lots
> missing, and for it to be a 'battle', I tried pitting a group that
> would at least have some sort of similarity between the other. That
> might be stretching it. The idea is to either vote, give a rating, or
> make a comment about the 'battle'. Of course if you don't like the
> selections, you can add yer own, and tell how bad the selections are
> too...:). On rating, we did a 0 -10 last year, and that of course can
> include, likes, influence, talent, poetry..etc. etc. Have fun, and
> good luck.
OK, I'll play
> 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
Tough seeding for the Beach Boys. The Beatles
> 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
Elevators
> 3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
Seeds
> 4. Chicago vs. Santana
I like Chicago a lot better than I'm *supposed* to, at least before
they went mawkish. I like 'em both. I'll say early Chicago.
> 5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
Moody Blues, even with their "Majesty of Rock" schtick. Floyd bores me
mostly. Go ahead. Call me narc.
> 6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
Big Brother
> 7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
Mothers
> 8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
Who. Your seeding is way off. I see what you're doing, but you're
knocking too many top bands off in the first round
> 9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
Four Seasons; I actually really like a couple of their tunes
> 10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
Ventures
> 11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
CSNY
> 12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
Zombies. Like 'em both. Don't see the comparison here
> 13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
Rascals
> 14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
Hmnm. That's a tough one. Probably Cream, but it's like picking the
1936 Yankess vs. the 1939 Yankees
> 15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
Byrds
> 16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
Searchers
> 17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
Stones, but a lot closer for me than for most
> 18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
Turtles
> 19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
Monkees. Like 'em both
> 20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
Deep Purple.
> 21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
Traffic
> 22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
Ummmm. Hmmmm. Can't I get the Beach Boys back here?
> 23. Small Faces vs. Them
Them
> 24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
Like both a lot less than I'm supposed to. Doors, today.
> 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
Mamas and the Papas. Like some early BeeGees, though.
> 26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
Beefheart
> 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
Beau Brummels
> 28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
Standells
> 29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
Airplane. I'm prepared to be shot down
> 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
Dion is the man - fantastic voice
> 31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
Pass
> 32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
Like 'em both. Kinks have way more depth' I'm tempted to say Hollies
just to be contrary.
> 33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
The Band
> 34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
Miracles
> 35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
Drifters
> 36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
Crickets. Might be the easiest chocie yet
> 37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
I stand corrected. Everlys
> 38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
P&G
> 39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
Errrr...Grape?
> 40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
Allmans
> 41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
Prunes
> 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
Sly
> 43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
S&G, except for Little Latin Lupe Lu
> 44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
Spencer Davis, except for Little Latin Lupe Lu
> 45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
Shirelles
> 46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
OK, I admit it. I like the Grass Roots. Blame it on Andy Williams.
> 47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
The who? I'll take the Coasters
> 48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
Not my cup of tea. Kingston Trio
> 49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
Like 'em both very much. Four Tops
The Arranger
BlackMonk
> > 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
>
Tough choice. I'd give it to The Beatles because of their early material.
>
> > 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
>
Blues Magoos, though I haven't heard as much Elevators as Magoos.
As with the first choice, they both did great music, but the Beatles and the
Blues Magoos were just more fun.
(and I have to go with the hometown team.)
>
> > 3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
What a strange pairing. Seeds. Despite everything, I love their first album.
>
> > 4. Chicago vs. Santana
>
Don't really care about either, but I'll go with Santana.
>
> > 5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
>
Don't care about either after their debut albums, but unquestionably Pink
Floyd.
>
> > 6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
>
I dislike everything Janis Joplin did after them, but I'll go with Big
Brother anyway. especially for the Mainstream album. Yes, it was borderline
inept, but since when is that a bad thing in rock and roll? And how many
borderline inept bands were doing Moondog covers in 67?
>
> > 7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
>
Never cared about either.
>
> > 8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
>
The Who, for their pre-Tommy material.
>
> > 9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
>
I'm not familiar with the Four Freshmen, so I'd have to go with the Four
Seasons, even though they only did a couple of songs I really like, and
Frankie Valli usually bugs me.
>
> > 10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
>
Jan and Dean. Though how do you compare goofy vocal material with
instrumental technique?
>
> > 11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
>
Buffalo Springfield.
>
> > 12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
>
Zombies
>
> > 13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
>
Neither band does that much for me, but Rascals.
>
> > 14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
>
Yardbirds,mainly Beck era.
>
> > 15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
>
Tough call. The Byrds made more great records, they had better harmonies and
they had a more distinctive sound, but Sebastain was a better songwriter
than any of The Byrds, they were probably a better band instrumentally and,
as with my first two choices, they were more fun, so I'll go with The
Spoonful. Besides, they were another hometown team, and how can anyone vote
against Zal?
> > 16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
>
Searchers. By far.
>
> > 17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
>
Stones
>
> > 18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
>
Herman's Hermits, mainly for the later material..
>
> > 19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
>
Monkees, but they had a lot of help. The DC5 did it all themselves (with a
bit of songwriting help), despite what Bobby Graham says.
>
> > 20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
>
Don't know them well enough to say.
>
> > 21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
>
Traffic
>
> > 22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
>
Don't know them well enough to say.
>
> > 23. Small Faces vs. Them
>
Them
>
> > 24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
>
Hendrix
>
> > 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
>
Bee Gees, but it's close
>
> > 26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
>
Beefheart
>
> > 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
>
Beau Brummels
>
> > 28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
>
Standells
>
> > 29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
>
VU. I do like the Airplane, but Lou Reed and John Cale? That's a tough
lineup to match.
>
> > 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
>
Dion
>
> > 31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
>
Deltones. (better known as Dick Dale and the...)
>
> > 32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
>
Kinks
>
> > 33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
>
Band.
>
> > 34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
>
Miracles
>
> > 35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
>
Tough call. I'd go with the Impressions.
>
> > 36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
>
Crickets. But what did either do worth noting in the sixties?
>
> > 37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
>
Everlys, who made some great records in the sixties.
> > 38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
>
Chad and Jeremy, no contest. They're also the only ones who've kept their
voices over the years.
>
> > 39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
>
Quicksilver
>
> > 40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
>
Creedence. I'll usually go for songs above guitar solos.
>
> > 41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
>
Prunes
.
>
> > 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
>
Sly
>
> > 43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
>
Simon and Garfunkel
>
> > 44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
>
SDG, who actually did my favorite song by them post-Stevie
> > 45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
>
Don't really care about either. I'd go with the Supremes, though.
>
> > 46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
>
Grassroots. I only know the singles by either, but the Grassroots just had
more good singles.
>
> > 47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
>
The Pharoahs? Richard Berry's backing group on Louie Louie? Was he even
using the name in the sixties?
Coasters.
>
> > 48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
>
Don't care about either.
>
> > 49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
>
Four Tops
curtjester1
Sam the Sham and The Pharoahs. I think you're the only one who picked
Chad and Jeremy in all the music groups. You probably know much
more. I only disagreed with few of your picks and thanx for the good
imput.
CJ
curtjester1
It's not really a competition as I don't pick any winners. It's as
far as I go..:). I did it last year in rec.music.60's and it got a
lot of responses...like between 4 and 5 hundred. Mostly childish
insults..:). So I wasn't trying to axe the Beach Boys by putting them
with the Beatles. I think I got like a 100 responses last year when I
suggested a tie between the Animals and Kinks. Won't pair them
together no mo'..:).
Now if you want to make it a competetion...I hand over my 'rights' and
you can have at it!..:)
CJ
RichL
> I think you're the only one who picked Chad and Jeremy
> in all the music groups. You probably know much
> more. I only disagreed with few of your picks and thanx
> for the good imput.
>
> CJ
For what it's worth, I picked C & J as well (see my post early in this
thread), mainly for the reason that BlackMonk mentioned but also because
they managed to make it on their own, in contrast with P & G who got a
*huge* boost from Paul McCartney.
The Arranger
It was rally a tossup for me...are there any two acts in the history
of music more ripe for conflation?
The Arranger
Lizz Holmans
<curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 4:07�pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Oops - hit "send" prematurely
>> Choices based on personal taste *alone*!
>> I don't remember if I responded last year. �If I did, my choices may
>> have been different.
>>
>> > 1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
>>
need you ask? I'm posting from R.M..B.
Though I liked the Beach Boys.
>>
>>> > 2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
>>
Blues Magoos, cos I remember one of their song.
>>
>> > 3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
Seeds.
>>
>> > 4. Chicago vs. Santana
Oh God, I dated a trombone player for a year. So I like Santana
>>
>> Moodies, though a tough call.
>>
>> > 6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
Janis Joplin *was* Big Brother.
>> > 7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
I liked the early Mothers, but when it became clear to me that Zappa
really didn't like his fans, But Black Sabbath? I'd rather have a root
canal.
>>
>> > 8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
Is this a joke? The Who had two of the best songwriters in rock and
roll. It's just a shame that he shared a group with Pete Townsend as
the other writer.
>> > 9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
Loved the Four Seasons.
>> > 10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
Jan and Dean, They were humorous without any viciousness.
>>
>> > 11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
C,S,N, and especially after Young joined.
>>
>> > 12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
>>
Zombies.
>> > 13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
Rascals.
>>
>> > 14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
Cream/
>> > 15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
Lovin' Spoonful. Great songs by a great singer.
>>
>> > 16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
Searchers.
>
>> > 17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
Animals by a mile.
>>
>>
>> > 18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
Turtles, once I figured out they were doing parodies.
>>
>
>> > 19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
Deep loathing of DC5
>>
>> > 20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
Procol Harem
>> > 21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
Steve Winwood, wherever he was at the time.
>>
>> > 22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
Vanilla Fudge. Soooooo slooooow,
>>
>> > 23. Small Faces vs. Them
Any group that Van Morrison was in is automatically better.
>>
>> > 24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
This is a joke, too, isn't it? Hendricks. Oh, yeah.
>
>> > 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
Mamas and Papas, cos they had a great songwriter who managed to hide
Michelle's complete lack of talent.
.>>Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
May I have another choice, please? You do *not* want to hear my
opinions on either of them.
>>
>> > 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
>>
Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>>
>>>
>> > 28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
G & the P, please.
>>
>> > 29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
Airplane, as long as Marty was in it.
>>
>> > 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
Dion, not cos he was a really great voice, but also cos I never heard
of the other band.
>>
>> > 31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
I *loathed* Gary Lewis.
>>
>> > 32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
Kinks had better songs, Hollies could sing better
>> > 33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
The Band.
>>
>> > 34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
>>
Miracles
>>
>> > 35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
Drifters
>> > 36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
Cricket, even though the Ashes are coming up.
>>
>> > 37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
Every Brother fer shure.
>
>> > 38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
>>
Chad and Jeremy.
>>
>> > 39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
>>
May I be excused?
>>
>> > 40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
>>
CCR by a mile and a half.
>>
>> > 41. The Electic Prunes vs. The other one I so carelessless delelted,
But Prunes nevertheless less.
>
>> > 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
Sly and the Family Stones, till Sly went bonkers.
>>
>> > 43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
>>
Tie.
>>
>> > 44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
>>
Spencer Davis Group, cos that little kid that played with them turned
out nice.
>>
>> > 45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
Shirelles
>
>>
>> > 46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
Association.
>>
>>
>> > 47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
>>
Coasters.
>> > 48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
>>
Kingston Trio
>> > 49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
Another tie., cos the Temps were so good and the Four Tops had a plant
that could eat people and sing like nobody's business.
Lizz 'When will the grades be posted?' Holmans
--
I stayed up late to hear your voice.
RichL
> Lizz 'When will the grades be posted?' Holmans
You passed!
p.s...Has anyone noticed?
This thread hasn't degenerated into a flame war! (At least not yet,
though perhaps I write prematurely....)
Consider (a) the subject matter and (b) which people are no longer
posting to RMB who had vast potential for turning it into one.
Draw your own conclusions.
saki
> Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
This won't affect your final grade, but I believe that Dusty was with
the Springfields, not the Seekers.
But cheer up---it's Cilla Black's birthday. (Nobody suggested her in the
survey...maybe if she were paired with Evie Sands?)
----
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The Arranger
Not only hasn't it degenerated into a flame war, but if not not
mistaken, no one has even taken aim whatsoever at anyone's
preferences!
The Arranger
The Arranger
> Lizz Holmans wrote:
> > Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>
> This won't affect your final grade, but I believe that Dusty was with
> the Springfields, not the Seekers.
Maybe she was thinjking of Dusty Seeker?
> But cheer up---it's Cilla Black's birthday. (Nobody suggested her in the
> survey...maybe if she were paired with Evie Sands?)
But who gets paired with Sandie Shaw, then? Or were Evie Sands and
Sandie Shaw actually the same act, like Peter and Gordon and Chad and
Jeremy, and Wayne Newton and Brenda Lee?
The Arranger
RichL
Yeah, so far...that's usually the precursor. Raja said his usual little
piece, no one responded to that, and he hasn't decided to plunge in,
which helps as well.
curtjester1
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 18:17:12 -0700 (PDT), curtjester1
>
contest will go on and on...so you have a big plus there, and another
big plus is you are the only one if I am not mistaken that chose the
Animals over the Stones. I gave them a tie even though I like
listening to Animals better. I think you were the only Kingston Trio
picker and I thought they were a much better match up for PP&M than
the surveyers gave them credit. You would have got an A+ if you had
picked the Shondells over the Rascals, however..:).
CJ
saki
> On May 27, 3:52 pm, saki <s...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>>Lizz Holmans wrote:
>>
>>>Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>>
>>This won't affect your final grade, but I believe that Dusty was with
>>the Springfields, not the Seekers.
>
>
> Maybe she was thinjking of Dusty Seeker?
Amazingly, Judith Durham, the Seeker's lead, is still releasing records.
>>But cheer up---it's Cilla Black's birthday. (Nobody suggested her in the
>>survey...maybe if she were paired with Evie Sands?)
>
> But who gets paired with Sandie Shaw, then?
Someone willing to sing barefoot.
> Or were Evie Sands and
> Sandie Shaw actually the same act, like Peter and Gordon and Chad and
> Jeremy, and Wayne Newton and Brenda Lee?
I always thought of Wayne Newtwon and Eddie Hodges as the same person,
but I think Eddie's voice may have changed by now.
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LOL
BlackMonk
"Lizz Holmans" <di...@jackalope.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:sgrq15tg5n1efhpu2...@4ax.com...
>>> > 25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
>
> Mamas and Papas, cos they had a great songwriter who managed to hide
> Michelle's complete lack of talent.
>
I wouldn't go that far. She was a competent singer and her vocals could have
some charm, but there's no reason why she should be in a group with two
great vocalists and a great songwriter. (Except for the obvious one, which I
shouldn't mention in a family newsgroup)
.
>>>
>>> > 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
>>>
> Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>>>
She wasn't in The Seekers. The connection was that Tom Springfield wrote
"I'll Never Find Another You."
>>>
>>> > 30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
>
> Dion, not cos he was a really great voice, but also cos I never heard
> of the other band.
>>>
"Since I Don't Have You" "This I Swear" probably a couple others that sound
similar to those, too.
LOL
the thread is very stupid. so i am avoiding it.
Stephen X. Carter
>The Arranger wrote:
>> On May 27, 3:52 pm, saki <s...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>Lizz Holmans wrote:
>>>
>>>>Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>>>
>>>This won't affect your final grade, but I believe that Dusty was with
>>>the Springfields, not the Seekers.
>>
>>
>> Maybe she was thinjking of Dusty Seeker?
>
>Amazingly, Judith Durham, the Seeker's lead, is still releasing records.
Why "amazing".
She's just released a version of the Australian National Anthem with words that are less 18th
Century and less offensive to the original owners of Australia.
And, I bumped into her in the street a couple of years ago... which startled me!
--
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, we finally fiound a list Raja doesn't like -- one with two
columns!
The Arranger
Lizz Holmans
>Lizz Holmans wrote:
>
>> Seekers. And not just because Dusty Springfield was so pretty.
>
>This won't affect your final grade, but I believe that Dusty was with
>the Springfields, not the Seekers.eer up---it's Cilla Black's birthday. (Nobody suggested her in the
>survey...maybe if she were paired with Evie Sands?)
I didn't do my homework. Now that you've told me I'm slapping my
forehead and thinking, 'D,oh!; i KNEW that!' The Seekers were
Australian, were they?
And to think I used to sing the Mutant. Shame on me.
Lizz 'far,far away...from my mind' Holmans
>
>----
>sa...@ucla.edu
brilton
>
>> maybe if she were paired with Evie Sands?)
>>
>
> I didn't do my homework. Now that you've told me I'm slapping my
> forehead and thinking, 'D,oh!; i KNEW that!' The Seekers were
> Australian, were they?
>
> And to think I used to sing the Mutant. Shame on me.
>
>
I don't recall a Seekers song called "The Mutant". Than again, I'm only
familiar with the more well-known songs in their catalogue - "Georgie
Girl", "The Carnival Is Over", "Morningtown Ride", etc.
Lizz Holmans
wrote:
>
>I don't recall a Seekers song called "The Mutant". Than again, I'm only
>familiar with the more well-known songs in their catalogue - "Georgie
>Girl", "The Carnival Is Over", "Morningtown
The Mutant is my oldest son. He deserves his privacy.But you already
knew that.
Lizz'and I'm good at embarrassng him' Holmans
brilton
> On Thu, 28 May 2009 01:10:29 GMT, brilton <not...@notlirb.yacht.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I don't recall a Seekers song called "The Mutant". Than again, I'm only
>> familiar with the more well-known songs in their catalogue - "Georgie
>> Girl", "The Carnival Is Over", "Morningtown
>>
>
> The Mutant is my oldest son. He deserves his privacy.But you already
> knew that.
>
>
You said you used to "sing the Mutant". Maybe you were referring to the
"New Seekers". I don't know.
saki
> You said you used to "sing the Mutant". Maybe you were referring to the
> "New Seekers". I don't know.
She meant (I daresay) "I used to sing to The Mutant [her son]". The "to"
was lost in transmission.
I never sang to my sons, having no voice to speak of, but I played them
numberous Beatles songs from their birth. They loved "The Oww Song",
otherwise known as "Thank You, Girl".
----
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saki
> I never sang to my sons, having no voice to speak of, but I played them
> numberous Beatles songs....
"Numerous", my apologies. One should never post to rmb while scanning
newspapers at the same time.
----
sa...@ucla.edu
who?
You do better than I do Saki. Did you catch my post to RichL
yesterday,
where I responded to him about McCartney's "melodies"? He corrected
me and said he was referring to his "medley" on Abbey Road.
One should never post to rmb while they have the Flu, cause your
mind is on how bad you feel, instead of comprehending a post.
Jeff
saki
> You do better than I do Saki. Did you catch my post to RichL
> yesterday,
> where I responded to him about McCartney's "melodies"? He corrected
> me and said he was referring to his "medley" on Abbey Road.
> One should never post to rmb while they have the Flu, cause your
> mind is on how bad you feel, instead of comprehending a post.
Jeff, I hope you feel better soon!
----
sa...@ucla.edu
The Nice Mean Man
> Here it is, the battle of the bands for groups that did their music
> thing at least somewhere in the 60's. I am sure there are lots
> missing, and for it to be a 'battle', I tried pitting a group that
> would at least have some sort of similarity between the other. That
> might be stretching it. The idea is to either vote, give a rating, or
> make a comment about the 'battle'. Of course if you don't like the
> selections, you can add yer own, and tell how bad the selections are
> too...:). On rating, we did a 0 -10 last year, and that of course can
> include, likes, influence, talent, poetry..etc. etc. Have fun, and
> good luck.
>
> 5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
> 27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
> 42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
>
> Donavan and Neil Diamond even though they surely had bands, but they
> weren't noted for them, and made it for those that had 2 and above.
> So here they are, even though I should sit here and even this out to
> 50. This is somewhat of a scramble from last year's pittings and I am
> sure a few groups were added.
>
> CJ
You distinctly remind me of a 'counselor' that we had at a church-
sponsored youth camp that my folks desperate tried to lose me at one
summer. Didn't work. I escaped and fled to a commune in the North of
Texas.She constantly tried to do idiotic things such as this. Always
trying to deal out comparison games like this. That or she’d have us
all holding hands on the dock singing Kumba Ya or A Hard Rain’s Gonna
Fall or some other pro-peace yarn. I of-times wander what became of
her. She was 23 and I was but 17. Sure was a good lay.
How old are you now, BTW...?
The Nice Men Man
who?
whosbest54
<165eb08d-e7a9-46c9...@q2g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
curtj...@hotmail.com says...
>
>1. The Beatles vs. The Beach Boys
>
Fabs, but I love the BB too
>2. The Blues Magoos vs. 13th Floor Elevators
Pass
>3. Climax Blues Band vs. The Seeds
CBB
>4. Chicago vs. Santana
Chicago
>5. Pink Floyd vs. The Moody Blues
Not fair. Both too good and different to battle.
>6. Big Brother and the Holding Company vs. Country Joe and the Fish
BB & HC but only by a smidgen
>7. Black Sabbath vs. Mothers of Invention
Mothers!!
>8. Led Zeppelin vs. The Who
Look at my handle. The Who by miles and miles
>9. The Four Freshmen vs. The Four Seasons
Four Seasons
>10. The Ventures vs. Jan & Dean
Pass
>11. Buffalo Springfield vs. C,S, N, & Y
CSN&Y
>12. The Zombies vs. Paul Revere & The Raiders
Zombies
>13. The Shondells vs. The Rascals
Rascals
>14. Cream vs. The Yardbirds
Cream!!
>15. The Byrds vs. The Lovin' Spoonful
Spoonful
>16. The Searchers vs. The Vogues
Pass
>17. The Animals vs. The Rolling Stones
Stones
>18. Herman's Hermits vs. The Turtles
HH
>19. The Monkees vs. The Dave Clark Five
Monkees
>20. Procul Harem vs. Deep Purple
PH
>21. Traffic vs. Blind Faith
Aw man, no fair, both too damn good.
>22. Strawberry Alarm Clock vs. Vanilla Fudge
SAC
>23. Small Faces vs. Them
SF
>24. Jimi Hendrix Experience vs. The Doors
Doors
>25. The Bee Gees vs. The Mamas and Papas
M&P
>26. Captain Beefheart (The Magic Band) vs. Iron Butterfly
Beefheart
>27. The Beau Brummels vs. The Seekers
pass
>28. Gerry and the Pacemakers vs. The Standells
pass
>29. Jefferson Airplane vs. Velvet Underground
Airplane
>30. The Skyliners vs. Dion and the Belmonts
Pass
>31. The Deltones vs. Gary Lewis & The Playboys
GL&P
>32. The Hollies vs. The Kinks
Kinks
>33. The Band vs. The Grateful Dead
Both too good
>34. The Isley Brothers vs. The Miracles
IB
>35. The Impressions vs. The Drifters
Pass
>36. The Crickets vs. The Comets
Crickets
>37. The Everly Brothers vs. Sonny & Cher
EB
>38. Peter & Gordon vs. Chad & Jeremy
pass
>39. Quicksilver Messenger Service vs. Moby Grape
QMS
>40. The Allman Brothers vs. Credence Clearwater Revival
CCR
>41. The Electic Prunes vs. The Amboy Dukes
pass
>42. The Chambers Brothers vs. Sly & The Family Stone
pass
>43. The Righteous Brothers vs. Simon & Garfunkel
S&G!!!
>44. The Spencer Davis Group vs. Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
pass
>45. The Shirelles vs. The Supremes
Supremes
>46. The Grassroots vs. The Association
Association
>47. The Coasters vs. The Pharoahs
Pass
>48. The Kingston Trio vs. Peter, Paul, and Mary
PPM
>49. The Temptations vs. The Four Tops
>
Temptations
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>
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You sound like you met Ophelia on Desolation Row, weary traveler. I
am sure you will find your way, Grasshopper. If I haven't met your
age maturity, you can surely get your sophisticated comparison for my
finale, #50.
The Neanderthals vs. The Mummies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmSToIqtjQM&NR=1 The Mummies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgHM98rfE28 The Neanderthals
CJ