Most underrated ambient
ventolin
Underrated ambient:
Which artist or album, in your opinion,
is ambient music's best kept secret?
Sebastian Kloss
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JMZorko
Simple! My band! :-)
Seriously -- I think Alio Die is incredibly underrated, as is some of the stuff
on Manifold (Sian, Totemplow) and some of the Hypnos stuff. Heck, the whole
_genre_ is often underrated, but it occurs to me that this is ok. After all,
wallpaper is underrated ... but it's sort of supposed to be.
Regards,
John
http://www.adastra-records.com
playing: Skylab #1 (underrated)
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Eric S. Piotrowski
diverse, and I dig his intellectual approach to the music. Sometimes the
liner notes are a bit much (Couture Cosmetique), but it's nice to see
there's something more to the music than just "it sounds purty"..
I would also put a plug in here for an underground artist named Stephen
Phillips. He's put out some really sinuous ambient stuff that I would have
to liken to early SETI. He's a part of the Independent Electronic Musician
Collective, whose website is
eric:p
(yes, i am the janitor of the IEMC, for those who might accuse me of
hiding my favoritism)
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>
> Underrated ambient:
>
> Which artist or album, in your opinion,
> is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
Take your pick. Lots of artists who are more Eno-esque and less
beat-oriented are underappreciated, including (but not limited to) the
following:
Aqueous (especially their recent release ENTERTAINING ANGELS)
Lots of the releases from Michael Bentley's label, The Foundry
James Johnson (his new CD, SURRENDER, is killer Eno-esque stuff)
Larry Kucharz (practically everything he does)
Richard Bone (THE SPECTRAL SHIPS and others)
A Produce (take your pick of everything he does...it's all great)
Jeff Pearce (VESTIGES, THE HIDDEN RIFT)
Robert Scott Thompson (FRONTIER and others...always recommended)
Stephen Bacchus' AMBIENT ORIGINS
Anything from the Hypnos label (it's all great)
Mark Rownd (esp. PAINTING TWILIGHT)
The new one from Jon Jenkins (FLOW)
Spacecraft (HUMMEL is excellent)
And this is only the proverbial tip o' the iceberg, IMO.
Just my $0.02 and your mileage can and should vary.
(copyright, Gregory Taylor)
Bill
Bill Binkelman
Editor and Publisher of WIND AND WIRE
A Magazine for fans of New Instrumental Music
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Zoviet france , in my opinion the most underrated band ever in the
ambient scene . A ton of artists owe their entire career to ZF . they
virtually invented the ambient texture soundscape genre. Required
listening includes - "Digilogue" , "Shouting at the ground ", "a Flock
of rotations" , " Look into me " , and "shadow , thief of the sun " .
Hafler trio , to my knowledge invented dark droney ambient . A lot of
their stuff is mainly just human vocal sounds . "A thirsty fish" is
some very good material. he has his own web page somewhere , but I
don't know the address. can someone help me out ?
Aube , a guy who made a a violent turn towards the ambient side in
almost all of his recent works . Some albums to check out are "Aqua
Syndrome " , "metal de metal " , and " Cardiac Strain " . He only uses
the sources of natural elements in all of his works. go to
www.manifold.com for information
fluorescent grey , I don't know how much ambient this guy does but of
what I've heard it's really good . some of the tracks are so textured
you can almost touch them . try Untitled , released some time in 97. try
www.ovenguard.com for information. he also has his own webpage , does
anyone know the address ?
hands to , a very very underrated group who I never hear any talk about
. They use primarily analogue dictators to do field recordings and turn
them into large , drifting ,unique soundscapes . A lot of their
material is hard to find though . All albums recommended
nurse with wound , a lot of the stuff they put out is genius while
staying on the ambient side. Try "rock and roll station" or if you have
the extra bucks buy "second pirate session" instead " which is rock and
roll station + extra tracks . Also might want to check out " soliloquy
for the lilith " which has been discussed on here before . go to
www.brainwashed.com for sound clips and info
coil , Worship the glitch one of my favorite ambient albums ever is
worth checking out . It's title reflects the concept of the album where
only equipment glitches were used to record the album . Any of the new
solstice cds and 7 "'s are very ambient and good too ( plus they are
cheap ) . go to www.brainwashed.com also for sound clips and an
official coil page
I hope you check some of this stuff out , it will be worth your while .
rob
>ventolin wrote:
>
> Underrated ambient:
>
> Which artist or album, in your opinion,
> is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
> Sebastian Kloss
>
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http://www.propeller-island.com/ - they're just *the best* but I don't
think many people knows them.
mallade
np: Propeller Island: *My fantastic VCA*
james
most anything on AdAstra lately
DVOA's side work (i.e. Spybey:Plotnik)
Cypher 7
Vidna Obmana
Jeff Grienke
and probably a huge amount of things i'm forgetting at the moment...
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>here is a list of artists that don't get much publicity in these
>parts --------------------------------------------------------
>
>Zoviet france , in my opinion the most underrated band ever in the
>ambient scene . A ton of artists owe their entire career to ZF . they
>virtually invented the ambient texture soundscape genre. Required
>listening includes - "Digilogue" , "Shouting at the ground ", "a Flock
>of rotations" , " Look into me " , and "shadow , thief of the sun " .
I second that .
>
>Hafler trio , to my knowledge invented dark droney ambient . A lot of
>their stuff is mainly just human vocal sounds . "A thirsty fish" is
>some very good material. he has his own web page somewhere , but I
>don't know the address. can someone help me out ?
>
>Aube , a guy who made a a violent turn towards the ambient side in
>almost all of his recent works . Some albums to check out are "Aqua
>Syndrome " , "metal de metal " , and " Cardiac Strain " . He only uses
>the sources of natural elements in all of his works. go to
>www.manifold.com for information
>
>fluorescent grey , I don't know how much ambient this guy does but of
>what I've heard it's really good . some of the tracks are so textured
>you can almost touch them . try Untitled , released some time in 97. try
>www.ovenguard.com for information. he also has his own webpage , does
>anyone know the address ?
>
Thanks for the kind words ! My webpage is currently at
http://24.5.30.51/fgrey/
It hasn't been updated since I first put it up though. When I get my linux
system up and running I will do a major revision . I will keep you posted.
You should take a look at the ovenguard webpage in the meantime though , I
am putting out a new album which will be a 2 cd set very soon .
Jacob Jarnigon
Jacob Jarnigon
Helge Tømmervåg
>Underrated ambient:
>
>Which artist or album, in your opinion,
>is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
>Sebastian Kloss
>
neural network - modernitč
http://www.uib.no/People/hhioh/nn/
sketch - abeyance (numbered limited 2cd set with loads ov art included,
magnificent!)
e-mail: endo...@online.no (Not sure if this is still active...)
biosphere/deathprod - nordheim transformed (deep, dark and wonderful!)
http://www.runegrammofon.com/ (for buying)
Regards
Helge
Matthew Hiltner
Dance'. Although I got introduced to him via 'Prototype 909' which is more
acid techno, the 'SETI' series is simply beautiful.
Another artist who is not really 'ambient' but does wonderful dark
soundscapes is Tactile. Very hypnotic pulses and and low-end sweeps.
Insane!
ventolin wrote:
> Underrated ambient:
>
> Which artist or album, in your opinion,
> is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
> Sebastian Kloss
>
Skirvo
ventolin <vent...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Underrated ambient:
>
> Which artist or album, in your opinion,
> is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
section in your local CD-store.
A-phex Twin?
A-utechre?
Hmm, I wonder if I will get massively popular by
starting a band called, uh, Aantti?
Note: this is humour.
Duncan Bruce
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>
>Underrated ambient:
>
>Which artist or album, in your opinion,
>is ambient music's best kept secret?
>
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ol...@apexmail.com wrote:
> Another artist who is not really 'ambient' but does wonderful dark
> soundscapes is Tactile. Very hypnotic pulses and and low-end sweeps.
> Insane!
Insane? hrm, I dunno... but the remix album (recurrence and intervention -
zoviet france, coil, scorn, eyeless in gaza, mika vainio, james plotkin,
etc...) is a masterpiece.
Rob
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jmz...@aol.comDieQSpam (JMZorko) wrote:
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> Simple! My band! :-)
>
> Seriously -- I think Alio Die is incredibly underrated
Really? Ya think so? He seems to be getting a lot of attention these days...
I mean, just look at how many labels are releasing his material now. I can
barely keep up with him anymore! :)
What do you think of his new 5000 Spirits disc?
der_...@hotmail.com
i think 'reasons to sway', by sketch, has been criminally neglected.
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Matthew Hiltner
by Tactile... In fact, they are rather simple. But it is the most interesting
simplest music I have heard. Follow me?!? There is not much that goes on
within each song, but it keeps my attention... I guess I should have said that
from the start.
As far as scorn goes.... really don't care for him.
maim_th...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <371A1ED9...@apexmail.com>,
> ol...@apexmail.com wrote:
> > Another artist who is not really 'ambient' but does wonderful dark
> > soundscapes is Tactile. Very hypnotic pulses and and low-end sweeps.
> > Insane!
>
> Insane? hrm, I dunno... but the remix album (recurrence and intervention -
> zoviet france, coil, scorn, eyeless in gaza, mika vainio, james plotkin,
> etc...) is a masterpiece.
>
> Rob
>
JMZorko
Funky.
I can barely keep up with this NG anymore, as evidently Alio Die has released
tons o'stuff that i'm not aware of :-)
>I can
>barely keep up with him anymore! :)
:-)
OK, how about:
Taylor Deupree (someone else mentioned HMD and I agree -- I only have Secret
#12, but it's beautiful)
Sian -- Aube and (I hate saying this) some other guy. Sink / Assign on
Manifold is great!
A Produce
Terre Thaemlitz (though he's getting more attention, with the Wire cover and
Modulations and all, I _love_ Soil)
That Summer (not really ambient, but it's very cool stuff)
Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've ever heard, and _so_
hard to find)
Main
Some of the Hypnos stuff (Viridian Sun, Jeff Pearce, Saul Stokes)
Oh yeah, my band! :-)
Regards,
John
AdAstra
http://www.adastra-records.com
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JasonTroy
> Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've ever heard, and
_so_
> hard to find)
Anyone care to expand on this one? Life Garden is totally new to me. Any
sound files available?
Thanks!
Nosajyort!
np: Robert Rich-"Below Zero"
JasonTroy
> Life Garden appeared on a comp I released called Voyager. I've got a
30-sec
> mp3 clip on the web site below (go to Audio Files, then click on Voyager,
then
> click on Dzoqchen, their song).
>
> It's really good stuff ... I wish I could get more of it. Their web site
seems
> rather dormant (still there, but unchanging). I've no idea where to get
more
> of their stuff (actually, they is mostly David Oliphant I think) ...
Thanks for the info. Its a great sound file. Ill have to buy your comps.
when i get some cash.
Ecellent website too. Visually impressive and easy to navigate.
Take care.
JasonTroy
JMZorko
Life Garden appeared on a comp I released called Voyager. I've got a 30-sec
mp3 clip on the web site below (go to Audio Files, then click on Voyager, then
click on Dzoqchen, their song).
It's really good stuff ... I wish I could get more of it. Their web site seems
rather dormant (still there, but unchanging). I've no idea where to get more
of their stuff (actually, they is mostly David Oliphant I think) ...
Regards,
maim_th...@my-dejanews.com
jmz...@aol.comDieQSpam (JMZorko) wrote:
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> Funky.
>
> I can barely keep up with this NG anymore, as evidently Alio Die has released
> tons o'stuff that i'm not aware of :-)
You know of his new 5000 Spirits disc (on Crowd Control Activities), right? He
also has two collaborative releases on the Crowd Control Activities label and
the Amplexus label... and another solo disc... which label it is, I forget...
oh, and a 7" and drone! Like I said, a whole bunch o' stuff!
> Sian -- Aube and (I hate saying this) some other guy. Sink / Assign on
> Manifold is great!
Yeah, the Sian on Manifold is groovy... so is the split with David Kristian.
Actually, I like the split disc a little more...
> A Produce
I've only heard Inscape and Landscape but I like it quite bit... which one
would you say is his best?
> Terre Thaemlitz (though he's getting more attention, with the Wire cover and
> Modulations and all, I _love_ Soil)
Soil rocks.
> Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've ever heard, and
_so_
> hard to find)
www.anomalousrecords.com usually carries some of their stuff.
> Main
nah, they're too well known to be underrated...
> Some of the Hypnos stuff (Viridian Sun, Jeff Pearce, Saul Stokes)
I like the Viridian Sun a lot... Just got a Saul Stokes disc from a friend of
mine but I haven't listened to it yet...
maim_th...@my-dejanews.com
"JasonTroy" <nosa...@seatac.net> wrote:
>
>
> > Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've ever heard, and
> _so_
> > hard to find)
>
> sound files available?
Like Garden is a sort of organic ambience... The guy from Life Garden used to
be in an experimental industrial group called Maybe Mental. He also did a
couple of collaborations with Voice of Eye (Voice Of Eye is really nice as
well). www.anomalousrecords.com usually has some life garden
Seofon
> > Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've ever heard, and
> _so_
> > hard to find)
>
> Anyone care to expand on this one? Life Garden is totally new to me. Any
> sound files available?
All-organic sound warpage -- "performed on a wide variety of 'folk' and
moden instruments including various flutes, chanters, reed instruments,
hand drums, tom drums, metal percussion, gongs, bells, string instruments,
violin, sitar, bowed zither, shos, D-4 drum module, various multi-effect
units, mirage sampler" -- and the abstract vocal stylings of Su Ling.
They're great, but their stuff is perversely hard to find ... they run
their own label, Agni Music (ag...@pcslink.com) out of Phoenix AZ.
Life Garden is quite similar stylistically to Voice of Eye, who I may like
even better ... they're on Cyclotron Industries out of Houston TX. They
don't use any synthesizers, and often make their own instruments. I
strongly recommend _Vespers_, and their track on Manifold's "Narratives:
Music For Fiction" comp is spectacular.
I've never seen sound files for either of these bands ... but if you want
to check out Life Garden, along with a bunch of other artists mentioned on
this thread, why not pick up Ad Astra's nifty _Voyager_ compilation? =)
Anyway, to add to the underrated stuff list:
Locust
Not Breathing (not always ambient, but his ambient stuff is great)
Woob
Vidna Obmana
glad to see Sketch mentioned ... I also thought _Reason_To_Sway_ was a classic
as is Miasma's album on Emit
two other discs Apollo released around that time were especially good, too,
namely: Tournesol _Kokotsu_ and Uzect Plaush _More_Beautiful_Human_Life!_
all-time best chill-out records: Sun Electric _Live_ and MLO's _Io_ soundtrack
-=Seofon
Ambient Temple of Imagination
http://www.a-toi.com
Gary Hendershot
>>> Life Garden (definitely some of the best dark ambient i've
>>> ever heard, and _so_ hard to find)
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>>
>> Anyone care to expand on this one? Life Garden is totally
>> new to me. Any sound files available?
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> Life Garden is a sort of organic ambience... The guy from
> Life Garden used to be in an experimental industrial group
> called Maybe Mental. He also did a couple of collaborations
> with Voice of Eye (Voice Of Eye is really nice as well).
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Let me throw in a thing or two about Voice Of Eye...
Using the term loosely, they are also an "organic ambient"
group, and a *great* one at that. The instrumentation used
on their 3 CD outings, 2 CD collaborations with Lifegarden,
several compilation appearances with the likes of Robert Rich,
Paul Schütze, Steve Roach, Jeff Greinke, Vidna Obmana, etc...
have always been without the use of ANY synthesisers or
samplers, instead utilising homemade devices, some electric
guitar/bass, and heavy reliance on the studio environment.
If Voice Of Eye's music sounds interesting and you don't
have any of their CDs, now is the time to get'em, because
they are all out of print and getting increasingly hard to
track down!
Here's more Voice Of Eye info at:
http://www.stack.nl/~bobw/music/artists/Voice.Of.Eye/index.html
-Gary H-
ghen...@gary-hendershot.com
http://www.gary-hendershot.com/
Houston, TX USA
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