Paughco frame opinion?
GO GATORS
hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
myself. Do not want to get a frame where the engine and tranny bolt
mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
project. Any help or comments would be most appreciated.
Hd36knuckl
>GO GATORS asks,
<SNIP>
>Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
>hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
>tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
>myself.
Gators,
Forget the Paughco frame and go with one of the great reproduction or custom
frames sold by V-Twin. They are the closest thing to a genuine H.-D, frame you
will ever find.
Also, avoid any frames made in Sweden. They take more time makin' things right
than you can beleive.
Later,
Chris
Who you callin' a CURMUDGEON!
If you ever see my bike on a trailer, CALL 911! Its stolen.
1986 FXRP "RODE WARRIOR"
Iron Butt association
Par Willen
> Also, avoid any frames made in Sweden. They take more time makin' things right
> than you can beleive.
Last time I looked, Paugcho was a US company. Why don't you go the whole
route in using your simpleminded logic which would make for an "avoid
any frames made in the US".
Sweeping generalizing statements based more on some unfounded fear that
frame and engine part imports from Sweden will topple the US economy
than real facts won't get you anything but less respect.
If anything it should make people in the know wonder how much of the
"expertise" you display in here is for real and how much is just like
the bullshit idiocy you just showed in this thread.
Regards
PiPPi
#66, BS#13
Panhead
>
> Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
> hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
> tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
> mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
> project. Any help or comments would be most appreciated.
This will be a comment. However if it helps, so be it.
I had a Paughco frame and it was not very horrible.
It was a new one made in 1993, and the motor and trans I had fit
in with almost no swear words or large drill bits. (1974 Shov
with old style 4 speed kicker)
The front fork assembly from a stock 1994 FX that I added to it
also fit in quite uneventfully.
The welding was quite pitiful and it had no tank mounts. (but
the latter was my fault and I added them later, as that was what
was available at the time for the total basket I had purchased
and the price was right.)
Paughco had a bad time and reputation with its help at one time
and were making VERY sloppy welds and, the workers were getting
doped up and not following the directions when it comes getting
things straight on the frame jigs. (I know that because I used to
live there in Cartoon City, Nevada myself and knew some of those
people!)
Supposedly, that is and has been corrected now regarding their
past incompetence.
So the questions YOU have to ask yourself and them while
building a custom is:
1) Do you have a game plan?
2) Does Paughco, and the other manufactures of other after
market parts, play "nice nice" together?
Custom Chrome sure as shit didn't when I had my STOCK '74
engine in this "stock" frame and tried to fit CC's pipes that
they swore would fit.
(that's another story as I learned how to MAKE them fit after I
got a hack saw, a die grinder, seven Vise grips in various shapes
and configurations, a grinder, a used set of drag pipes, a
grinder, and a wire feed welder!)
http://www.intac.com/~panhead/shov.jpg
Oh. Did I mention the grinder and a chromer?
Think ahead before making a project, or you will be making an
Excedrin headache for your self.
Ironhorse
wrote:
>>Paughco frame opinion?
>
>>GO GATORS asks,
><SNIP>
>
>>Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
>>hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
>>tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
>>myself.
Instead of doing two posts I am gonna try an answer in one. I had a
Paughco frame in the early 90's, I'll agree with Pan here that the
welds wern't the greatest. A buddy bought one of there hard tail
frames last year. The quality was way up from the one I had.
Everything bolted together and was straight. The welds were more than
decent and looked like they were robotically welded to me.
>
>Gators,
> Forget the Paughco frame and go with one of the great reproduction or custom
>frames sold by V-Twin. They are the closest thing to a genuine H.-D, frame you
>will ever find.
Chris I have NEVER bought anything from V-twin that fit right. After
the F*cking tranny plate, I bought. I'll never buy another thing from
them. I'll tell ya about that tranny plate. Supposedly a reproduction
of an HD plate. Well I ground on the tranny case, I drilled new holes
in it. I put thread inserts in it. I called up and bitched at Pat
Kennedy who made my frame. He said if it was his screw up to send the
frame back, but to try a HD plate first. Went to a buddies house found
an old rusty HD plate. Wire brushed it, painted it black and bolted
right together. I called V-twin explained it nicely, asked for my
money back, in their defense they offered to exchange it. I still have
it around somewhere, if you'd like it, it's yours.
> Also, avoid any frames made in Sweden. They take more time makin' things right
>than you can beleive.
I don't buy that either. Have a friend that has one, not sure of the
brand and it bolted right together and is real wild looking.
Larry Hardy
"GO GATORS" <goga...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
> hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
> tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
> mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
> project. Any help or comments would be most appreciated.
A great ridged frame is still from Atlas or Day-Tec frames.
I'm building three bikes with Day-Tec frames now
and one hard tail using Atlas. Not one fitting prob prior to paint.
You couldn't`t get me to try another frame out side of these two companies.
Larry Hardy
http://www.performancetechniques.com
jstanton
wrote:
>Last time I looked, Paugcho was a US company. Why don't you go the whole
I don't think he said that Paugcho was a Swedish company. However, the
thought of having a certain type of Swedish company is appealling to
me.
Ironhorse
<la...@performancetechniques.com> wrote:
>A great ridged frame is still from Atlas or Day-Tec frames.
>I'm building three bikes with Day-Tec frames now
>and one hard tail using Atlas. Not one fitting prob prior to paint.
>You couldn't`t get me to try another frame out side of these two companies.
But then you don't know what a shovel is.
Hd36knuckl
>Par Willen sez,
>Last time I looked, Paugcho was a US company. Why don't you go the whole
>route in using your simpleminded logic which would make for an "avoid
>any frames made in the US".
>
>Sweeping generalizing statements based more on some unfounded fear that
>frame and engine part imports from Sweden will topple the US economy
>than real facts won't get you anything but less respect.
>
>If anything it should make people in the know wonder how much of the
>"expertise" you display in here is for real and how much is just like
>the bullshit idiocy you just showed in this thread.
>
>Regards
>PiPPi
>#66, BS#13
PIPPI,
My personal experience with the Swedish made, inferior frames, is the sole
basis of my warning. I am not afraid they are gonna ruin our economy no more
that I am afraid Japan or Tiawan will ruin it.
I realize your roots, but ya don't need to take everything personally.
Hd36knuckl
>Ironhorse sez,
<SNIP>
>Chris I have NEVER bought anything from V-twin that fit right. After
>the F*cking tranny plate, I bought. I'll never buy another thing from
>them. I'll tell ya about that tranny plate. Supposedly a reproduction
>of an HD plate. Well I ground on the tranny case, I drilled new holes
>in it. I put thread inserts in it. I called up and bitched at Pat
>Kennedy who made my frame. He said if it was his screw up to send the
>frame back, but to try a HD plate first. Went to a buddies house found
>an old rusty HD plate. Wire brushed it, painted it black and bolted
>right together. I called V-twin explained it nicely, asked for my
>money back, in their defense they offered to exchange it. I still have
>it around somewhere, if you'd like it, it's yours.
>
Ironhorse,
So ya mean 'cause I got a bad part from Harley-Davidson all of their stuff is
bad and I should never buy it again?
Get real! V-Twin is a distrubutor and they handle goods from hundreds of
manufacturers. Some is good, some is not. Most all the companies such as Custom
Chrome, Chrome Specialties, Mid USA, MidWest, Drag, Dixie ETC. all get their
parts from the same sources. I am not a fan of many parts carried by these
companies.
The Reproduction frames V-Twin handles are great. I have used several of them
and only found one very minor problem with one that was fixed in less than a
minute.
As for the Swedish frames you can look at one from 10 feet away and spot it as
such. They take shortcuts and the frames do not look exactly like a H.-D.
frame.
At the A.M.C.A. bike show in Eustis, FL this month a Restored bike was
disqualified because it had a easily spotable Swedish frame. While a bike with
the V-Twin frame went unnoticed.
Nuff said.
Par Willen
> >Paughco frame opinion?
>
> >Par Willen sez,
>
> >Last time I looked, Paugcho was a US company. Why don't you go the whole
> >route in using your simpleminded logic which would make for an "avoid
> >any frames made in the US".
> >
> >Sweeping generalizing statements based more on some unfounded fear that
> >frame and engine part imports from Sweden will topple the US economy
> >than real facts won't get you anything but less respect.
> >
> >If anything it should make people in the know wonder how much of the
> >"expertise" you display in here is for real and how much is just like
> >the bullshit idiocy you just showed in this thread.
> My personal experience with the Swedish made, inferior frames, is the sole
> basis of my warning.
That might be just so, but like I said, what makes you look less than
objective and more like an ignorant bigot is your sweeping
generalization about Swedish made frames, like there was one single
manufacturer in the whole country.
Although your logic is real weak, you should still try to keep track of
it so you quit shooting yourself in the foot. You say yourself in
another post in this thread that "So ya mean 'cause I got a bad part
from Harley-Davidson all of their stuff is bad and I should never buy it
again?" That's exactly the reasoning you put across in your negative
statements about Swedish frames (whatever the hell that is). Change the
"Harley-Davidson" to "Sweden" and ask yourself the question, hopefully
you'll get the point I am trying to make.
> I am not afraid they are gonna ruin our economy no more
> that I am afraid Japan or Tiawan will ruin it.
Sure fooled me. I could be wrong but in an earlier discussion about you
knocking the Knucklehead parts from Flathead Power, didn't you state
that the basis for your negative remarks in that discussion was that the
imports were taking away from the US economy, quality was not the issue?
> I realize your roots, but ya don't need to take everything personally.
Why the hell not?!? I might not be a fan of all the goings on in this
country but this is my tribe and it has a pretty good industrial
heritage especially considering where we sit on the globe and that we're
less people here than you have in metropolitan New York. Me, my
relatives, and my friends are all part of that going back many
generations and it's not easy sitting down seeing the kind of subjective
unjustified generalizing bullshit crap you spread about us in public.
Shit, where's the Ray Conniff Singers when you need them?
Regards
PiPPi
#66, BS#13
Hd36knuckl
> Par Willen sez,
<SNIP>
>That might be just so, but like I said, what makes you look less than
>objective and more like an ignorant bigot is your sweeping
>generalization about Swedish made frames, like there was one single
>manufacturer in the whole country.
I have never had a good experience with ANY swedish made frame, PERIOD.
>Sure fooled me. I could be wrong but in an earlier discussion about you
>knocking the Knucklehead parts from Flathead Power, didn't you state
>that the basis for your negative remarks in that discussion was that the
>imports were taking away from the US economy, quality was not the issue?
>
Your memory is selective at best. I have never said a bad word about Flathead
Power's products. I use them myself. What I did say, If you will recall, is
that rather than buying the complete Knuck reproduction engines and paying
double duty on the S&S and other USA made parts on them to simply buy the
Flathead Power parts and pick up the USA made parts locally. Wht pay for duty
ot transport USA parts to them and duty again to bring them home?
>it's not easy sitting down seeing the kind of subjective
>unjustified generalizing bullshit crap you spread about us in public.
So when I say the Swedish frames are easy to spot and are not correct
reproductions you consider that unjustified? If you will remember I also said
the Paughco (Made in USA) frames are not near correct. But I guess you blind
pride to your tribe made you overlook that.
Pippi,
Have a cold one and chill out. This is not an attack on you or your country.
Simply my bad experences with a particular product.
Ironhorse
wrote:
>>: Paughco frame opinion?
>
>>Ironhorse sez,
><SNIP>
>
>>Chris I have NEVER bought anything from V-twin that fit right. After
>>the F*cking tranny plate, I bought. I'll never buy another thing from
>>them. I'll tell ya about that tranny plate. Supposedly a reproduction
>>of an HD plate. Well I ground on the tranny case, I drilled new holes
>>in it. I put thread inserts in it. I called up and bitched at Pat
>>Kennedy who made my frame. He said if it was his screw up to send the
>>frame back, but to try a HD plate first. Went to a buddies house found
>>an old rusty HD plate. Wire brushed it, painted it black and bolted
>>right together. I called V-twin explained it nicely, asked for my
>>money back, in their defense they offered to exchange it. I still have
>>it around somewhere, if you'd like it, it's yours.
>>
>
>Ironhorse,
> So ya mean 'cause I got a bad part from Harley-Davidson all of their stuff is
>bad and I should never buy it again?
Yeah I have had a bad part or two from HD. but I have never had
anything but junk from V-Twin. There's a big difference.
> Get real! V-Twin is a distrubutor and they handle goods from hundreds of
>manufacturers. Some is good, some is not. Most all the companies such as Custom
>Chrome, Chrome Specialties, Mid USA, MidWest, Drag, Dixie ETC. all get their
>parts from the same sources. I am not a fan of many parts carried by these
>companies.
V-Twin seems to have a lot of parts manufactored for them in Taiwan.
I'm sure that it is possible to get good parts from Taiwan but they
seem to place the orders with the intent of getting the cheapest part
for the highest possible profit margin. Most everything I have seen
from them is junk.
> The Reproduction frames V-Twin handles are great. I have used several of them
>and only found one very minor problem with one that was fixed in less than a
>minute.
> As for the Swedish frames you can look at one from 10 feet away and spot it as
>such. They take shortcuts and the frames do not look exactly like a H.-D.
>frame.
I'm not interested in resorations. If I were I would find an original
Harley frame. The swedish frames I have seen are wild customs. They
shouldn't look like a HD frame. They show more imagination then all of
the US manufactorers combined. I'm sick of cookie cutter customs.
Par Willen
> I have never had a good experience with ANY swedish made frame, PERIOD.
Like I said, "that might be just so". Not debating that point.
> >Sure fooled me. I could be wrong but in an earlier discussion about you
> >knocking the Knucklehead parts from Flathead Power, didn't you state
> >that the basis for your negative remarks in that discussion was that the
> >imports were taking away from the US economy, quality was not the issue?
> >
> Your memory is selective at best.
I learned debating in a US high school.
> I have never said a bad word about Flathead
> Power's products.
Hrm...
> I use them myself. What I did say, If you will recall, is
> that rather than buying the complete Knuck reproduction engines and paying
> double duty on the S&S and other USA made parts on them to simply buy the
> Flathead Power parts and pick up the USA made parts locally. Wht pay for duty
> ot transport USA parts to them and duty again to bring them home?
... OK, well, that's... it rings a bell, yes.. shit, I'm loosing ground
here. Move the hell on to the subject at hand...
> >it's not easy sitting down seeing the kind of subjective
> >unjustified generalizing bullshit crap you spread about us in public.
>
> So when I say the Swedish frames are easy to spot and are not correct
> reproductions you consider that unjustified? If you will remember I also said
> the Paughco (Made in USA) frames are not near correct. But I guess you blind
> pride to your tribe made you overlook that.
Damn, this is a hard point to get across. Stretching it heavily just to
try to make you see it from a point of view that is not only yours:
You're saying the Swedish frame you came across is bad which makes all
Swedish frames bad. So if Paugcho is bad then all US makes are bad.
Pretty simple, yes, but that is basically what you're saying.
> Pippi,
> Have a cold one and chill out. This is not an attack on you or your country.
If it were that, an attack on me is fine but generalizing and branding a
whole industry is what ticks me off.
> Simply my bad experences with a particular product.
"a particular product". Egg-fuckin'-zactly the point I've been trying to
make. Name that one single product and let the rest fly free.
Screw it, I'll enjoy that cold one and I'll buy you two whenever we meet
since I know that I'll have as good use of your knowledge in the future
as I've had in the past.
In the meantime I'll try to get my Edlund Brothers Sporty mod hardtail
in shape to ride from here to hell hoping not to run into any
problems...
Regards
PiPPi
#66, BS#13
Randy
>
> Hd36knuckl wrote:
>
> > Also, avoid any frames made in Sweden. They take more time makin' things right
> > than you can beleive.
>
> route in using your simpleminded logic which would make for an "avoid
> any frames made in the US".
>
> Sweeping generalizing statements based more on some unfounded fear that
> frame and engine part imports from Sweden will topple the US economy
> than real facts won't get you anything but less respect.
>
> If anything it should make people in the know wonder how much of the
> "expertise" you display in here is for real and how much is just like
> the bullshit idiocy you just showed in this thread.
Ahh, just admit it PiPPi. Everything in Sweden sucks.
randy
77flh BS6
Par Willen
> Ahh, just admit it PiPPi. Everything in Sweden sucks.
Yes, well... hrm...
OK...
Regards
PiPPi
#66, BS#13
Dave Taylor
GO GATORS wrote:
> Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
> hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
> tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
> myself. Do not want to get a frame where the engine and tranny bolt
> mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
> project. Any help or comments would be most appreciated.
Opinion/experience:
I had a very early paughco hard tail frame, or so I was told by the seller
of the bike. The welds were rough at best, motor/tranny was shimmed and
the whole thing had the finish-out of a mini-bike frame.
OTOH, the paughco frames I see today don't seem to have any of those
problems. Apparently they've come a long way.
Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
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Hd36knuckl
> Dave Taylor asks,
<SNIP>
>Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
Dave,
NO,
The Paugh family still own and operates Paughco in Mound House, Neveda
Panhead
>
> GO GATORS wrote:
>
> > Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
> > hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
> > tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
> > myself. Do not want to get a frame where the engine and tranny bolt
> > mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
> > project. Any help or comments would be most appreciated.
>
> Opinion/experience:
>
> I had a very early paughco hard tail frame, or so I was told by the seller
> of the bike. The welds were rough at best, motor/tranny was shimmed and
> the whole thing had the finish-out of a mini-bike frame.
>
> OTOH, the paughco frames I see today don't seem to have any of those
> problems. Apparently they've come a long way.
> Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
I doubt it but, I could be wrong.
My understanding is that Paughco first started out in the
southern Cal area and then either moved to or opened another
location in Moundhouse... AKA Dayton, Nevada. (although why they
call it Carson City for some reason, as it is one mile past
Carson City County limits is beyond me!)
The company was based on brothers or family names from my
understanding.
But that's neither here nor there.
After all, I painted Mr.Paugh's (Bill I think) Corvette many
years ago when I too was living in Carson City while they were
first constructing their building...a building that was made by
"American Buildings" that I also worked at for a few months, and
that also has a HUGE plant in Carson City.
One of their office workers at Paughco, a certain Mr.Glen
"Buddy" Tucker, was also a worker at American Buildings at that
same time I was working their and was/is also a great frigging
drummer!
A drummer that I had the honor of playing with when we were both
in the same bands for years.
We called him "Thunderfoot" or "Wild eyed Buddy" as he had eyes
so wide open all the time, that one would think that he was
constantly dipped head first into a vat of Visine and anally
injected with French roast...not to mention the fact that his
dexterity with the double bass Tama's that he had was simply
nothing less than astoundingly loud!
I hope to this day that is still a good drummer.
Give them a call and tell Bud that I said hello.
Dave Taylor
Panhead wrote:
> Dave Taylor wrote:
>
> > Opinion/experience:
> >
> > I had a very early paughco hard tail frame, or so I was told by the seller
> > of the bike. The welds were rough at best, motor/tranny was shimmed and
> > the whole thing had the finish-out of a mini-bike frame.
> >
> > OTOH, the paughco frames I see today don't seem to have any of those
> > problems. Apparently they've come a long way.
>
>
> > Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
>
> I doubt it but, I could be wrong.
That makes you #2 to correct me on this one. You're probably right.
> My understanding is that Paughco first started out in the
> southern Cal area and then either moved to or opened another
> location in Moundhouse... AKA Dayton, Nevada. (although why they
> call it Carson City for some reason, as it is one mile past
> Carson City County limits is beyond me!)
Shit. All I know is they've been doing it a long time. When they first started
out, they were damn near the ONLY choice you could find in after-market frames.
> The company was based on brothers or family names from my
> understanding.
> But that's neither here nor there.
>
> After all, I painted Mr.Paugh's (Bill I think) Corvette many
> years ago when I too was living in Carson City while they were
> first constructing their building...a building that was made by
> "American Buildings" that I also worked at for a few months, and
> that also has a HUGE plant in Carson City.
>
> One of their office workers at Paughco, a certain Mr.Glen
> "Buddy" Tucker, was also a worker at American Buildings at that
> same time I was working their and was/is also a great frigging
> drummer!
> A drummer that I had the honor of playing with when we were both
> in the same bands for years.
> We called him "Thunderfoot" or "Wild eyed Buddy" as he had eyes
> so wide open all the time, that one would think that he was
> constantly dipped head first into a vat of Visine and anally
> injected with French roast...not to mention the fact that his
> dexterity with the double bass Tama's that he had was simply
> nothing less than astoundingly loud!
> I hope to this day that is still a good drummer.
>
> Give them a call and tell Bud that I said hello.
There is such a drummer in Dallas who makes his single-bass setup sound like a
double bass set - his right foot is that much in time. His name is Kevin
Schermerhorn and I used to play with him in a band called The Mudsharks. Later
he subbed with us on some corporate gigs (high dollars, high snooze factor) with
The Fins. Since then he's gone on to play with all kinds of national notables
including Johnny Reno, Joe Ely and John Couger Mellancamp. Now he's more
interested in staying close to home, raising his kid and teaching lessons.
Meanwhile, I just gave 2 months notice to The Fins, have a kid to raise, and
want to start rediscovering music for the fun of it again - I want my kid to
grow up with some POSITIVE musical influence, not "Oh there's dad, going off to
do some gig he hates" kind of thing. Soon, I hope to get with Kevin again for
some basic rhythm and blues - the reason we all started playing to begin with.
Bonez...
machining ...
Bonez...
99' Custom Softail
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lurch
[carbonized, actually] on at point-of-sale by a pinhead and cracked
through the top rail starting at that point after a few thousand
miles...so I talked to Rich at Paughco...he said 'send the old one we'll
make you another'...the replacement [cost me shipping cost only] with
the same s/n arrived 27 calendar days later with the motor mount already
there.
There ain't a single hole I had to open up, _everything_ fit. The motor
[Delkron cases] took .001" [i.e. don't bother] of shim on one front
corner and that was it. I did have to move the clutch cable/oil bag
mount on the seat post, but that is due to the clutch and oil bag setup
I run.
I got no beef with Paughco, they stand by their stuff in my experience.
However, I've heard it said from different sources that John Page used
to work for HD building frames and when they canned the 4-speed he
bought the tooling and is now "John Page Framewright" and these frames
are 100% exact for the restoration market...then there's Pat Kennedy who
builds absolute topnotch stuff, but his frames are chromemoly which I
hear is a bitch to weld...but I've heard from multiple sources Kennedy's
stuff is first-rate.
I guess it depends on what you wanna build. If you're building on
pre-1970 cases, a Page frame would likely make titling a lot easier as
it would be indistinguishable from original, and HD didn't start
numbering frames until 1970...here in IL if you build on an aftermarket
frame you get to run the gamut of the inspectors, the surety bond, the
"SOS"-prefix VIN # that the Sec'y Of State {"SOS"} stamps in the neck,
which redflags the insurers, hence insurance companies charging you an
"assembled bike surcharge" [around here we call it 'chopper tax']...
I titled mine in WI and got a title that said HD and at the bottom
"REPLICA"...and when I rolled it over to an IL title, it came back with
an IL title says Harley-Davidson, doesn't say 'builders' or 'replica' or
anything like that anywhere on it...and has the Paughco frame # for a
VIN!
So, hope this helps.
CapeFearCycle
gogators1 writes:
>> Am fairly mechanically adept and am looking to purchase a Paughco
>> hardtail frame. Want to know if the frames they make are made to close
>> tolerances so that I might have a decent chance of doing the wrenching
>> myself. Do not want to get a frame where the engine and tranny bolt
>> mounts do not match up leaving me with a serious welding and drilling
>> project.
Not much problem with motor and tranny setup with ones i've touched, but
haven't used one of their hardtail frames in along time. Did just use their
second and last swingarm frame that had more sraightening and press work needed
on the swingarm tabs then I've run acrros on most any used bike. They would
have made right on the last one but we're on a time schedule and needed to
powder coat asap.
And I take that back about it being the last one, since if it's what a cutomer
wants, it's what they get and we'll make it work.
Todd
65FLH, 76CIC, 76 XL
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Stick
>
>
> Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
Thinking of Jammer perhaps?
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Dave Taylor
Stick wrote:
> Dave Taylor wrote:
> >
> >
> > Q: Didn't Chrome Specialties buy the paughco name a few years back?
>
> No.
> Thinking of Jammer perhaps?
Bingo.
Correction: My old XL had a JAMMER frame, not a paughco, and it sucked.
The paughco frames I've seen, and I've only noticed them in the past 5
years, all seem to be fairly top-notch.
Major brainfart here. I live in constant fear of confusing my kids names,
not an easy thing since I've only got one kid. Age sucks.