KTM 200 E/XC vs. KTM 250 E/XC
Lee D. Daley
Are there any A or AA enduro riders out there that have had a chance to
compare the 200 and the 250 back to back? What are your impressions? I
have broken my shoulder twice in the past year and am looking at surgery
shortly - I cancelled my order for the WR400 because I knew I didn't have
the strength yet to handle either the power or the weight. My '96 WR250 is
also a handful for me right now. I'm considering the KTM because of the
smoother power delivery. Is the 200 capable of overalling an enduro in the
Florida sand? Any comments appreciated.
Lee
'96 WR 250
'96 YZ 167
MX Tuner
>Is the 200 capable of overalling an enduro in the Florida sand?
Sure...... If you can ride it like a 125 for 70 miles.
MX Tuner
Uwe Hale
MX Tuner :
> Sure...... If you can ride it like a 125 for 70 miles.
I would think that a lighter bike would be easier to ride for long distances.
You are a lot busier on a 125, but the physical effort involved seems to be
less. Plus the KTM 200 is supposed to have power comparable to 250s. It just
lacks a hard hit.
I've been at the Honda/KTM dealer a few blocks from the house and checked out
the KTMs. I've also been questioning whether I would rather want a 200 or a
250. My YZ has too much power for most of the tight trails I've been on
lately. I spend way too much effort keeping the front end down and keeping the
rear end from passing me in the turns.
The only downside I see from the small bikes are increased maintenance and for
wide open trails - power.
I sure would like to hear some opinions from 200EXC owners.
Uwe Hale
89 YZ250WR
76 BMW R/75
Ben Hill
"Lee D. Daley" <l...@digital.net> wrote:
> Are there any A or AA enduro riders out there that have had a chance to
>compare the 200 and the 250 back to back? What are your impressions? I
>have broken my shoulder twice in the past year and am looking at surgery
>shortly - I cancelled my order for the WR400 because I knew I didn't have
>the strength yet to handle either the power or the weight. My '96 WR250 is
>also a handful for me right now. I'm considering the KTM because of the
>smoother power delivery. Is the 200 capable of overalling an enduro in the
>Florida sand? Any comments appreciated.
> Lee
Hey Lee,
Alan Gravitt rode a KTM 200 Limited Edition to the overall win at the
Armadillo Enduro last august. And I think he overalled the Sandlapper
in S. Carolina, also a sandy race with lots of whoops. It's a capable
mount, if you are up to the task.
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,95 KTM 440 EXC
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Kenneth Murphy
Lee D. Daley (l...@digital.net) wrote:
: Are there any A or AA enduro riders out there that have had a chance to
: compare the 200 and the 250 back to back?
I have a friend who is currently racing a 200 LE(?) in the AA class of the
RMEC. He claims the 200 is the best bike he's ever owned. He is 6'5 and
goes about 230#. His results have improved dramatically from last year when
he was aboard an XR400, and the year before when racing a CR125. Results
don't lie much. ;)
He claims he'd hurt himself on a 250. He's a hard charger and a 250
might get him in trouble quicker.
OBTW, get well soon.
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MX Tuner
>Plus the KTM 200 is supposed to have power comparable to 250s. It just
>lacks a hard hit.
Yeah. It lacks a LOT of the hit.
>My YZ has too much power for most of the tight trails I've been on
>lately. I spend way too much effort keeping the front end down and keeping the
>rear end from passing me in the turns.
So buy and enduro 250 instead of an MX 250. My RMX doesn't have the
brutal low end my '93 YZ 250 had. Just as much (if not more) on top
though. Nice for making up time in the faster sections.
MX Tuner
David E. Wilson
I'm intrested in any comments from anyone who has ridden a 200 and 250
EXC back to back and would like to tell that they think the strengths of
one over the other is. Don't want to hear about other brands. Thanks
Vintage Dave
Dennis Kennedy
MX Tuner (mxt...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: >Plus the KTM 200 is supposed to have power comparable to 250s. It just
: MX Tuner
But, the 200 doesn't have the weight of a 250, (especially an RMX).
I could probably stand to give up a little power to save a bunch of
weight.
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'96 KTM 360 EX/C
sTeVe?
I've ridden a 300 EXC (aka, "The Big Comfy Couch") back-to-back with
the 200 EXC. Given the 300 is the same chassis and bottom end I'd say
they are similiar. I'd take the 200 over the 300 and most likely the
250 any day. The handling is a joy and for enduro the 200 makes
plenty of power and excellent grunt. It's like a 125 on steroids.
The 300 feels large but I could definitely race it. The 300 turns
pretty well (96) even after just getting off my CR. The 300 has
deceptive power as compared to the 200. It has no hit, even with all
the power valve washers removed but it gets you going fast in a hurry.
The 200 has more of a "hit" (FWIW) so it feels a bit zappier. I still
don't like either throttle, it takes too much rotation to open it all
the way up.
Steve
aged CR250 pilot
David Wray
sTeVe? wrote:
>
> I've ridden a 300 EXC (aka, "The Big Comfy Couch") back-to-back with
> the 200 EXC. Given the 300 is the same chassis and bottom end I'd say
> they are similiar. [snip]
I thought the 200 chassis & engine cases were based on the 125 and then
a different chassis/engine cases for the 250/300/380 ... so if you
compare the 200 and the 250 you are really comparing much more than just
the engine (as opposed to looking at a 250 vs 300 ... just engine
differences there).
Who knows ... :-)
David
David E. Wilson
sTeVe? wrote:
> >> I've ridden a 300 EXC (aka, "The Big Comfy Couch") back-to-back with the 200 EXC. Given the 300 is the same chassis and bottom end...
Gee Steve, it made perfect sense to me...taken in context you were
relating the 300 to the 250, because I asked about a back to back
comparison of the 250 to the 200, and you had ridden the 300 and the
200. Thanks for your earlier comments.
Vint Dave
sTeVe?
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:30:50 -0700, David Wray <dbw...@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
>sTeVe? wrote:
>>
>
>> I've ridden a 300 EXC (aka, "The Big Comfy Couch") back-to-back with
>> the 200 EXC. Given the 300 is the same chassis and bottom end I'd say
>> they are similiar. [snip]
>
>I thought the 200 chassis & engine cases were based on the 125 and then
>a different chassis/engine cases for the 250/300/380 ... so if you
>compare the 200 and the 250 you are really comparing much more than just
>the engine (as opposed to looking at a 250 vs 300 ... just engine
>differences there).
Sorry, Dave, my mistake. I meant the 300 shares a bottom end and
chassis with the 250 AFAIK. S
Will Rosenberry
>Alan Gravitt rode a KTM 200 Limited Edition to the overall win at the
>Armadillo Enduro last august. And I think he overalled the Sandlapper
>in S. Carolina, also a sandy race with lots of whoops. It's a capable
>mount, if you are up to the task.
>
>antispam...@mindspring.com
>,95 KTM 440 EXC
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I here that the Limited Edition "Jack Piner" had suspension problems
that was fixed in the 98's There are some dealers that have them for
sale for a little less then the 98's (at least in Feb when I bought
mine)
Will Rosenberry
Lee
Thanks everyone for your input. You're right, Ben, Alan has been flying
aboard the 200. It looks like now the question is should I buy a '98 and
set it up while I'm in rehab, or wait for the '99? The new KTM's usually
come out when? Anyone heard of any upcoming changes? Any dealer
recommendations? I've never ridden a KTM and will be looking for
sponsorship/support for the FTR and SETRA Enduro Series.
Lee
Will Rosenberry
From the amount of 200 EXC's I found ( 0 ) I guess that you may have
to get the 99
Will Rosenberry
98 KTM 300 EXC
Kenneth Murphy
Will Rosenberry (wrose...@chesco.nospam.com) wrote:
: On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:03:49 GMT, "Lee" <l...@digital.net> wrote:
: From the amount of 200 EXC's I found ( 0 ) I guess that you may have
: to get the 99
There's a Jackpiner available in Colo Spgs. ;)
: Will Rosenberry
: 98 KTM 300 EXC
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SSmyers102
Oakland Sports Center in Michigan had two 200 EXC on the floor a few weeks ago.
maybe they are still here. I was surprised to see them.
Bryan Kimsey
SSmyers102 wrote:
> Oakland Sports Center in Michigan had two 200 EXC on the floor a few weeks ago.
How much do these things go for? Just curious.
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