Is Roy Williams Really a blackbelt?

[Lee Barden & Walter Faulkner]

Does anyone know for sure if the so called Grand Master Roy Williams,
Ph.D. has really attained the rank of black belt. I was informed that he
never actually received a real black belt from anyone he just gave
himself the rank and even calls himself a grand master. I heard he quit
training and all of a sudden he went from Blue Belt to black belt. I
have also heard that most of the moves he does with the nunchaku he
acquired from other people and now claims he made them up. Is this guy a
fraud or is he for real? I would appreciate any information there is.
thank you

[KGreen0977]

Who's Roy Williams?

[Lee Barden & Walter Faulkner]

That's what we want to know. If you would like to know more you could
go to http://www.rhythmarts.com If you get past all of the dizzying
colors of his eccentric web page, you might have some fun.

KGreen0977 wrote:
> Who's Roy Williams?

[El Queso]

That guy is a total jackass. I remember reading an old BB magazine
artice with him. He claimed such ridiculous stuff as having over 1
million techniques with the nunchaku, and that he was the best in the
world at them. He struck me as a pompous douchebag with nothing to offer
anyone who wanted to learn to fight.
Queso

[El Queso]

After looking at his site - I take back everything I said. You cannot
mess with a guy whose martial credentials include: Roy Williams opens
for Molly Hatchet at Stone Mountain Ga. 1985
WOW! Molly Hatchet! This guy MUST be a master.
Queso

[BillMahoney68]

> kgree...@aol.com

>
>Who's Roy Williams?

I think he was a singing cowboy back in the 30's.

[BillMahoney68]

> El Queso

Jeesuz christ.
I was friggin *in* Molly Hatchet and it doesn't get me shit.

[MDMA boy]

"El Queso" <""the_cheese_23\"@(nospam)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OYe4a.57457$QU2.1...@news2.west.cox.net...

I wonder if the Good Doctor Williams didn't smoke a little too much
"wacky-tobbacky," if you know what i mean.

Let's be honest- who, except a hippie, Deadhead, or rave kid could fully
appreciate some guy spinning around 6-part, glow-in-the-dark, holographic,
"Photon Nunchaku" (TM) under a black light?

I'm not kidding- I just went to his site and it made me wonder if *I* was on
some kind of drug!

Kobudo artists please check his site out and let me know what you think!

Junkyard Willie

[El Queso]

All the way in? Did you use a condom?
Queso

[someguy]

MDMA boy wrote:

>

The site made my head hurt. Too many strange colors and this guy seems
to ramble on and on about how great he is. I've never heard of him. What
the heck is a "21st Century Samurai" or "PENDULOUS ~ BALANCED ~
NUNCHAKU" or "The fastest hand held "zician" instruments in the world'
This guy is full of this kind of crap. And he claim to have created
everything there is martial arts today:
Grand Master Roy Williams
Creator & Founder of Lissajous Do Ryu, Lissajous Arts, Rhythm Arts,
Karate Arts, Pro Chux, Glow Chux, Roy Chux, Scientific Nunchaku, Halo
Aura Arts.

Is this guy for real?

[Kirk Lawson]

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Lee Barden & Walter Faulkner wrote:
>

Yes, he is a Black Belt. And for only $99.99, you can also be a black
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--
"In these modern times, many men are wounded for not having weapons or
knowledge of their use."
-Achille Marozzo, 1536
--
"...it's the nature of the media and the participants. A herd of martial
artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
-Chas Speaking of rec.martial-arts

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[Badger Jones]

On 18 Feb 2003 03:03:22 GMT, billma...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)
wrote:

>>After looking at his site - I take back everything I said. You cannot
>>mess with a guy whose martial credentials include: Roy Williams opens
>>for Molly Hatchet at Stone Mountain Ga. 1985
>>WOW! Molly Hatchet! This guy MUST be a master.
>

>Jeesuz christ.
>I was friggin *in* Molly Hatchet and it doesn't get me shit.

As per Frank Zappa's song "Crew Slut"?

Badger Jones
www.cyberus.ca/~badger
File not found. Smash forehead on keyboard to continue.

[opinionated master]

If you look in the dictionary under narcissist the is a picture of the
good doctor. I used to know this guy named Roy. He was absolutely
incredible at the Nunchaku. One day he became unhappy at just being the
best at his craft. He decided to become the master @ at he surveyed.
First he claimed that he taught Steven K. Hayes everything he knows
about Ninjitsu, then he taught everybody on the circuit how to do
weapons. Was on Jake and the fatman, and a whole list of mostly made up
credits. Refer to http://www.rhythmarts.com for details. Now he is
Jesus incarnate. If you don't believe me, just ask him. He is the
second coming of christ. And he truly believes this. I feel for the
man. What happened to reality? The story goes on and on, however like
you, I am getting to bored to dwell on him any more. Have fun.

[DougŽ]

On 18 Feb 2003 03:03:22 GMT, billma...@aol.com (BillMahoney68)

scribbled with their crayola:

>Jeesuz christ.
>I was friggin *in* Molly Hatchet and it doesn't get me shit.

Who is Molly Hatchet when she's not at home?

DougŽ
http://members.tripod.com/~russianmartialart/systema.html

[someguy]

I found out that Roy williams does indeed have a blackbelt:
"Grand Master Roy Williams' Promotion to Ph.D., and 10th Degree in
Mechanical Technical Sciences and a Black Belt. Master Dussault
Represented with Honor, the Wah Lin Tai Chi Martial Arts Federation of
Canton China."
What the hell is a 10th degree in "Mechanical Technical Sciences"
Just wondering to myself?

[Skirmish]

Yup, and a very little known fact is that he also a Grandmaster of
another less known martial art, Kanukikmeyeass. Apparently it's an
offshoot of Bringabeeralong and Fallindownalot...

Seriously, when you've thought you've seen it all, another waste of
sperm rears its ugly head.

[xrne...@gmail.com]

LOL. the only fraud is lee barden and walter faulkner. Mr. Lee Barden everything you teach, YOU claim you learned from Roy Williams. And then there is your "boyfriend" walter faulkner (another waste of space). ok, just kidding. Lee, Walter, Roy you guys are all frauds (equally)

By the way... I heard Lee died, did Roy die? is that idiot Walter dead to?

[xrne...@gmail.com]

Roy William taught Lee Barden (whom is up here posting sh*t about his instructor). i think that says alot for the student and the instructor.

Roy williams in circa 2008 submitted to be a fight choreographer for feature film. Lets just say his "audition" went over with "lots of laughs". He also claimed he was a grandmaster at samurai sword techniques. I was at the audition - he did not get the gig (enuf said) Roy got his black belt from watching one to many jackie chan films.

Lee and Roy are best described as "traveling circus hustlers".

[xrne...@gmail.com]

After Researching Donald Ralph Barden, alias "LEE" the Jacksonville,
Florida Sheriff's Dept. Computerized Criminal History is as such:
Lee's rap sheet are numerous. With Jail Booking Number
#1983-026505-6, Case # 16 1979MO, County Court SAO# 82MO046948AD
Arrest Charge 1) J320.202 (3)(1)-VISITING PLACE OR BEING PRESENT WHERE
CONTROLLED SUBTANCES WERE USED.
Disposition: Sentence to County Jail 10 DAYS (ADJUDICATED GUILTY)
Arrest Offence: Atlantic Beach, Florida Police Dept.
Jail Booking # 1983-026505-6 Case# 16 1983 CF/9986A Court Circuit SAO
# 83CF058220AD

Arrest Charge 1) S 893.13(1)(e) POSSESSION OF UNLISTED 893 DRUG (F3)
COCAINE
Disposition: PLED GUILTY AS CHARGED BEFORE TRIAL.

Arrest Charge 2) S 827.04(3) CHILD ABUSE - IMPREGNATING A CHILD UNDER
THE AGE OF 16.

Filed Charge 3) POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA - MORE THAN 20 GRAMS

Filed Charge 4) POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE PARAPHERNAILIA
jail time as a condition of probation 1 months (ADJUDICATION
WITHHELD).
Probation 36 MONTHS.

DONALD RALPH BARDEN, ALIAS "LEE" BARDEN EMPLOYED WITH
BLACKNBLUEVIDEO.COM AND KARATE ARTS SCHOOL of JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA
IS A KNOWN DRUG ADDICT & DEALER (tried rehab in 1998 at River Region
Drug Rehab)
AS WELL AS A PEDOPHILE AND CHILD ABUSER. NUMEROUS ACCOUNTS, SEE FOR
YOURSELF.

DOB: 9.9.60 (September 9, 1960)

as per The JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S DEPT,
FELONY DEPT. ROOM M-101
904-630-2065 -
Jim Fuller - Clerk of the Circuit and County Courts - Duval County
330 East Bay Street,
Jacksonville Florida 32202.

Any Loving Parent would want to know. and BEWARE.

Partner: WALTER F. FAULKNER, an enabler WAS FIRED FROM COMCAST CABLE
COMPANY
FOR STEALING AND FRAUD, REQUISITIONING PUBLIC ACCESS VIDEO EQUIPMENT
FOR
ILLEGAL PURPOSES.

BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE MOST UN-SCRUPULOUS
MARTIAL ARTS FRAUDS AND THEIVES WHO PAY NO TAXES...AND HAVE DUPED MANY
TOP KARATE STARS OUT OF UNDISCLOSED AMOUNTS OF MONEY...

"LEE" is considered to be the FOOL of the Karate Industry, after
setting himself on FIRE, while high on crack-cocaine. He appeared on
numerous shows, including Maury Povich, he asked only for money...
and his good friend "WALLY" said, "I ALMOST SAVED HIM MYSELF" (what a
good friend) NOT.
Even though Maury Povich played "Lee's" story, again....Lee himself
was not invited to speak, because of his agenda to soak the public for
money, which became apparent to the Maury Povich show...

"Lee & Wally" are truely ASININE Individuals... The people that have
written in on this page are all fabricated by Lee and Wally, just try
to contact any of them....and you will come up with NOTHING.

This WEB-GROUP Page IS NOTHING BUT AN ATTEMPT TO COVER THE THIEVES
THEY HAVE BEEN, TO MANY MARTIAL ARTS PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

So you have a CHILD ABUSER, IMPREGNATING A CHILD ("LEE" DONALD RALPH
BARDEN) AS WELL AS MANY DRUG CONVICTIONS AND
A THIEF OF COMCAST CABLE COMPANY ("WALLY" WALTER F. FAULKNER)

SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE TEACHING OUR CHILDREN?!
I THINK NOT.

[dery...@yahoo.com]

I have know Roy since i was 16-17 years old and i,m 60 now but i took some lessons from him at his Olympic Karate School in Jacksonville Florida and he was a Black Belt back then and i still have a nunchaku-Roy Chux that he made and stamp the ends with his mark in front of me it is still working real well it had to be re-stringed one time for being that old and this was before Lee B and for some reason it looks just like the so called pro nuchaku but i do know is Roy is on the good guys side and my buddy and you people need to apologize to him for he is not a bad person the way you people are making him out to be.

[jayc...@gmail.com]

I know grand Master Roy Williams and he us legit i trained with him since I was 19 years old and ill be 66 this August 24th,same birth date of Danny Joe brown of Molly Hatchett who has past away and was also a family friend, /member.Going back to GRAND MASTER ROY WILLIAMS he was personally invited By Linda Lee and Shannon Lee Bruce Lee's wife and daughter performed at THE LEGEND OF BRUCE LEE

[jayc...@gmail.com]

Another tidbit what grandmaster Roy Williams taught me was full contact fighting in the 70's which was the Catalyst of mixed martial arts today so for those who don't believe grandmaster Roy Williams is legit he is a grandmaster of many weapons and styles and is to be respected as such
DO YOUR RESEARCH He has been in the presence of many famous people including nasa astronauts