Which countries allow citizens to walk around armed?
Jim Casey
results.
About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
and other jobs.
AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
cash) to obtain a limited license.
I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
in ready-to-fire condition.
- Jim
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Switzerland also allows concealed carry, has an ownership rate equal
to or higher than the US, and has low homicide rates, according to the
CATO institute.
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http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4706
Brent Beal
"Jim Casey" <seam...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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#I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# results.
#
# About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
#
# Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
# and other jobs.
#
# AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
# I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
# in ready-to-fire condition.
#
# - Jim
#
#
#And your point being?????????
If you don't like living here then.....you know what you can do!
Tiger
# I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# results.
#
# About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
#
# Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
#
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
# I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
#
# - Jim
Hmmmm... Most of the nasty places in the world where even 8 yr old's
carry AK's. Chad, Afganistan, and other places where rule and law is in
short supply. Elsewhere arms are ethier not for civilians at all or
limited to shooting clubs & Olympic shooters. Why the question?
The Wolf With the Red Roses
<seam...@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
#results.
#
#About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
#and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
#allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
#
#Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
#allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
#and other jobs.
#
#AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
#people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
#cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
#I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
#in ready-to-fire condition.
#
I believe (but maybe wrong) that at least two states, Alaska & Vermont
don't require doodle-squat for one to engage in their RKBA in any
manner.
The Swiss (again I believe) issue every Adult Male a fully functional
"real" Assault weapon & ammunition to keep in their private homes.
Matter of fact I think when a recall is issued it is an offense to
show up without your weapon, ammo, or them in in-op condition.
Swiss citizens enjoy shooting their assault rifles "The competition is
called the "Feldschiessen", or "field shoot", and 200,000 people
attend every year. Citizens bring their fully automatic assault rifles
up from the basement to shoot in the sunshine, have a glass of beer,
play cards, talk, and play with their kids. The Swiss firearm homicide
rate is one of the lowest in the world."
The rifle used is the Stgw. 90 (military designation of the SIG 550),
which is a fully automatic assault rifle in 5.56x45 NATO. There are
roughly 700,000 of these rifles in bedroom closets and basements all
over Switzerland.
Also seen is the K31 bolt-action rifle in 7.5x55 Swiss, The SIG 510
fully automatic heavy assault rifle in 7.5x55 Swiss, and the SIG P210
pistol in 9mm.
Roughly 200,000 people come to this shooting festival every year.
People play cards, drink beer, enjoy the outdoors, bring their kids to
play in the fields, and shoot -- oh my gawd -- "real" Assault Weapons!
"The Swiss firearms homicide rate is 12 times lower than the United
States, and is one of the lowest in the world."
After discharge from service, every man was given a "free" bolt rifle
m& Ammo free from registration or obligation. Starting in 1994, the
government will gave ex-reservists "real" Assault rifles. Officers
carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end
of their service which are theirs for ever.
When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones
to the public regardless of it's form or function, i.e. "real" Assault
Weapons. All of the K-31's that hit the streets around the world were
the end result of rearming the population with the latest Military
hardware. Many had the names of their owners on a tag under the
butt-plate.
I believe the Finn's have a somewhat similar system as well & pride
themselves on being the World's best snipers. A silencer can & is
routinely sold OTC without anything other then the exchange of monies.
It is consider to be "bad form" to not use a muffler on your weapon
there.
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Offbreed
# AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
Laws in 3rd world countries are usually regarded as a revenue source,
they are passed so people know what they have to pay extra in order to do.
You pay a fee (bribe) to violate the law, and very little is actually
what we in the "developed world" would regard as "illegal".
Soooo, pass a bribe to someone with enough power, and you can walk
around with whatever you want.
nick hull
Jim Casey <seam...@comcast.net> wrote:
# I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# results.
#
# About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
#
# Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
# and other jobs.
#
# AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
# I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
# in ready-to-fire condition.
How many countries have a Bill of Rights?
Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
.
RSweeney
# results.
#
# About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
#
# Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
# and other jobs.
#
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
# I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
# in ready-to-fire condition.
#
# - Jim
I would look at countries that have bears.
The Wolf With the Red Roses
<offbre...@hotmail.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#Jim Casey wrote:
## AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
## people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
## cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
#Laws in 3rd world countries are usually regarded as a revenue source,
#they are passed so people know what they have to pay extra in order to do.
#
#You pay a fee (bribe) to violate the law, and very little is actually
#what we in the "developed world" would regard as "illegal".
#
#Soooo, pass a bribe to someone with enough power, and you can walk
#around with whatever you want.
#
I think that would New Yawk City.
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Jim Casey
# Why the question?
I'm curious as to whether anyone in the world has it as good as or
better than in the U.S.
The places where there is no rule of law are not places where anyone in
their right mind would want to live.
- Jim
Jim Casey
# How many countries have a Bill of Rights?
Most do. Some of them have splendid bills of rights that grant citizens
jobs, housing, health care, education, etc. Unfortunately they are
widely ignored.
- Jim
Long Ranger
# "The Swiss firearms homicide rate is 12 times lower than the United
# States, and is one of the lowest in the world."
Gee, I wonder how the ethnicity of the place figures in there..........
The Wolf With the Red Roses
<seam...@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#nick hull wrote:
#
## How many countries have a Bill of Rights?
#
#Most do. Some of them have splendid bills of rights that grant citizens
#jobs, housing, health care, education, etc. Unfortunately they are
#widely ignored.
#
Problem is; they are all "conceptual" ideas/ideals that end up being
one bitch of a time in the Implementation Phase.
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The Wolf With the Red Roses
<seam...@comcast.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#Tiger wrote:
#
## Why the question?
#
#I'm curious as to whether anyone in the world has it as good as or
#better than in the U.S.
#
As I said, at least two that I know of.
#
#The places where there is no rule of law are not places where anyone in
#their right mind would want to live.
#
And yet -- they do.
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The Wolf With the Red Roses
<lorp...@earthlink.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#
#
## "The Swiss firearms homicide rate is 12 times lower than the United
## States, and is one of the lowest in the world."
#
#Gee, I wonder how the ethnicity of the place figures in there..........
#
Personally I would suspect that the more homogeneous a society is, the
lower overall homicide rate -- well outside the African Continent that
is. It appears that the countries with a higher Heterogenous
population have all sorts of problems greater then the homogeneous
ones.
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nick hull
"RSweeney" <docks...@yahoo.com> wrote:
# "Jim Casey" <seam...@comcast.net> wrote in message
# news:fon0f8$fir$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# #I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# # results.
# #
# # About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# # and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# # allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car carry.
# #
# # Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# # allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military service
# # and other jobs.
# #
# # AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries allow
# # people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# # cash) to obtain a limited license.
# #
# # I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded weapon
# # in ready-to-fire condition.
# #
# # - Jim
#
# I would look at countries that have bears.
Canada has bears but no right to carry
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nick hull
Jim Casey <seam...@comcast.net> wrote:
# # How many countries have a Bill of Rights?
#
# Most do. Some of them have splendid bills of rights that grant citizens
# jobs, housing, health care, education, etc. Unfortunately they are
# widely ignored.
But no right to defend yourself, and their 'right' to house & health is
whatever the govt wants to give them, like I 'give' hay to my cattle ;)
Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
.
BillM
#
# AFAICT, no other country has this kind of
# system. Some countries allow
# people in high-risk positions (like those who
# carry large amounts of
# cash) to obtain a limited license.
#
# I'm talking in all these cases about being
# able to carry a loaded weapon
# in ready-to-fire condition.
#
Greece?
Jim Casey
# Greece?
From what I can see, Greece is typical of EU countries (restrictive):
http://www.m1911.org/gun_laws.htm
- Jim
RSweeney
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# In article <foo30u$nmq$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
# "RSweeney" <docks...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# # "Jim Casey" <seam...@comcast.net> wrote in message
# # news:fon0f8$fir$1...@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# # #I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# # # results.
# # #
# # # About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
# # # and met other requirements to carry a concealed handgun. A few states
# # # allow open carry of hanguns and rifles. Some allow unlicensed car
# carry.
# # #
# # # Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# # # allowed or required to carry rifles in connection with military
# service
# # # and other jobs.
# # #
# # # AFAICT, no other country has this kind of system. Some countries
# allow
# # # people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
# # # cash) to obtain a limited license.
# # #
# # # I'm talking in all these cases about being able to carry a loaded
# weapon
# # # in ready-to-fire condition.
# # #
# # # - Jim
# #
# # I would look at countries that have bears.
# Canada has bears but no right to carry
Finland has bears and does (long guns).
Ron Bloom
Harvey Scobie
"right to keep and bear arms". I would venture that very few if any.
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sgt
# Israel
Only if you have a permit, which is not always easy to get.
Howard Beale
# # "The Swiss firearms homicide rate is 12 times lower than the United
# # States, and is one of the lowest in the world."
#
# Gee, I wonder how the ethnicity of the place figures in there..........
I believe its better stated as "Stereotype or Genotype?"
Howard Beale
# On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:28:54 +0000 (UTC), "Long Ranger"
# <lorp...@earthlink.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
#
# #
# #
# ## "The Swiss firearms homicide rate is 12 times lower than the United
# #
# #Gee, I wonder how the ethnicity of the place figures in there..........
# Personally I would suspect that the more homogeneous a society is, the
# is. It appears that the countries with a higher Heterogenous
# population have all sorts of problems greater then the homogeneous
# ones.
Which is the irony of Switzerland. It's NOT homogeneous -- there are four
official languages and three predominant cultures -- yet they seem to do
pretty well.
penultimate
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ALL COUNTRIES allow people willing to break the law to carry loaded
weapons. Unfortunately, fewer put the law abiding on equal footing.
Topp@Work
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# What countries with a Socialist form of Government allow their citizens
the
# "right to keep and bear arms". I would venture that very few if any.
All of them, but you get shot pretty quickly.
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#
#"Harvey Scobie" <sco...@infionline.net> wrote in message
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## What countries with a Socialist form of Government allow their citizens
#the
## "right to keep and bear arms". I would venture that very few if any.
#
#
#All of them, but you get shot pretty quickly.
#
Yeah, but it is all the guys in power that get to carry. Just need to
join the "Right" party!
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# I did a little research on this question and would like to confirm my
# results.
#
# About 35 U.S. states allow a person who has passed a background check
#
# Israel allows citizens to get similar permits, and many people are
# and other jobs.
#
# people in high-risk positions (like those who carry large amounts of
#
# in ready-to-fire condition.
#
You carry whatever you like and whatever you can in Somalia. You'll
need it.
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Except that there the Mayor also serves as the Head Warden.
NYC is just a giant fancy prison.
Mike
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