You KNOW it's too darned hot when...
Chris
A. You cannot touch the cast iron railing around your deck
B. The standing water in your hose is hotter than your shower
C. You cannot step on the metal steps of your deck barefoot
D. All of the above
/teacher mode
Chris
Nad R
Too hot to walk barefoot on my wood deck, 98 yesterday, last night was nice
72 for the low and I slept well without the air running and windows open
during the night. Today expected to have a high around 93 Fahrenheit.
Tomatoes seem to go no where, my cucumbers are growing like gangbusters in
this hot weather. Leaf lettuce bolting, green beans seem to suffer, corn
needs more rain badly. Lawn is scraggly and dry needle like on the footsies
:)
Indoors, lots of baking with the air on, humidity is low in the house so I
think a pan fudge, fresh bread and peach cobbler is on the order for the
day. Too hot outside for grilling, I'll burn my little toes off on my back
deck. So Chicken and Dumplings with the peach cobbler sounds good to me and
therefore I won't be loosing any weight soon.
Shoes and old age just does not go well with me anymore :)
--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
Boron Elgar
<na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
>Chris <chris.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> /teacher mode
>>
>> A. You cannot touch the cast iron railing around your deck
>> B. The standing water in your hose is hotter than your shower
>> C. You cannot step on the metal steps of your deck barefoot
>> D. All of the above
>>
>> /teacher mode
>>
>> Chris
>
>Too hot to walk barefoot on my wood deck, 98 yesterday, last night was nice
>72 for the low and I slept well without the air running and windows open
>during the night. Today expected to have a high around 93 Fahrenheit.
It is 94 in my kitchen. The outside temp in the shade is 101. The deck
back planks register between 137 and 146 with an IR thermometer.
We are going out for dinner, To hell with it.
David E. Ross
Where I live, the average of daily highs for July over the past 6 years
is 93°F. The same is true for August. September is "only" 90°F. These
are actual temperatures without any adjustments for humidity.
Fortunately, the averages of night-time lows is about 30°F lower than
the day-time highs.
No, I don't live in the desert. The National Weather Service classifies
my climate as coastal valley.
--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean, see
<http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html>
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary>
Frank
Has not quite topped 100 here in northern Delaware but my tomatoes grown
on deck in pots don't appear to like all the heat we are getting.
Tomatoes look good but plant growth seems down. Hybrid big boy and
early girl don't look as good as heirloom brandywine.
Nad R
Same here, tomatoes look healthy but the growth is down, I would estimate
one forth shorter in height than normal.
LilAbner
When we came out, right as the sun went below the horizon, I remarked a
cool font must have come through. It felt cool. Car thermometer and
thermometer on a sign, down the road, read 103 degrees.
Cheryl Isaak
C
FarmI
news:j0c6qj$ek7$1...@dont-email.me...
'air on'???? What's with this 'air on' biz? The temps you've mentioned
means it hasn't hit the ton yet.
And that list of food is winter fare IMO. Here, when it does get hot,
summer food is BBQ or cold meats or grilled meat (broiled in USian think)
and salads - nothing at all that requires the oven to be on. Dessert is
fruit salad or icecream but mainly no dessert at all because it's too darned
hot to add food to a stomach that then generates heat in the digestive
process.
Billy
Air conditioning
> The temps you've mentioned
> means it hasn't hit the ton yet.
Cobbler isn't too bad, only takes 20 min. Make it in the afternoon when
things start to cool down and you can open all the windows. At least
that's what I do, but my low tonight is 52F. Charlie Underlog, and Bill
Who Putters are looking at 72F for a low tonight. Makes me faint to
think of it, and I sleep next to an open window, which, thanks to my
diuretic, I'm awake enough to close when it gets too cool at night.
>
> And that list of food is winter fare IMO. Here, when it does get hot,
> summer food is BBQ or cold meats or grilled meat (broiled in USian think)
> and salads - nothing at all that requires the oven to be on. Dessert is
> fruit salad or icecream but mainly no dessert at all because it's too darned
> hot to add food to a stomach that then generates heat in the digestive
> process.
I'll sometimes boil potatoes of an evening for potato salad the
following day. My potato salad is at least 50% celery, radish, green
onion, and pickles with the odd bit of lettuce lining the bowl which is
thrown in for the presentation. Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
house during the winter.
Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
the rhythm.
Our air conditioning (AC) is closing up in the morning, and then opening
up in the evening. We aren't total savages, we do have an attic fan.
--
- Billy
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Nad R
> In article <4e2a3aa6$0$3033$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>> "Nad R" <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote in message
>> 'air on'???? What's with this 'air on' biz?
> Air conditioning
>> The temps you've mentioned
>> means it hasn't hit the ton yet.
> Cobbler isn't too bad, only takes 20 min. Make it in the afternoon when
> things start to cool down and you can open all the windows. At least
> that's what I do, but my low tonight is 52F. Charlie Underlog, and Bill
> Who Putters are looking at 72F for a low tonight. Makes me faint to
> think of it, and I sleep next to an open window, which, thanks to my
> diuretic, I'm awake enough to close when it gets too cool at night.
The night time Temperatures are around the 70s lately. It is the hottest
summer in decades. I turn the "Air" off when temperature gets below 85F. I
completely understand how you feel when it comes to taking those diuretics
:)
>> And that list of food is winter fare IMO. Here, when it does get hot,
>> summer food is BBQ or cold meats or grilled meat (broiled in USian think)
>> and salads - nothing at all that requires the oven to be on. Dessert is
>> fruit salad or icecream but mainly no dessert at all because it's too darned
>> hot to add food to a stomach that then generates heat in the digestive
>> process.
Normally yes, it is winter food. But with the air conditioner on that runs
about two weeks a year. The humidity inside the home is low that winter
food does not seem bad. I also made a batch of fudge, humidity wreck havoc
on making good fudge.
But like I said the deck was tooooo hot for grilling. Summer is also for
bare feet, forget those shoes.
> I'll sometimes boil potatoes of an evening for potato salad the
> following day. My potato salad is at least 50% celery, radish, green
> onion, and pickles with the odd bit of lettuce lining the bowl which is
> thrown in for the presentation. Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
> Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
> house during the winter.
The only lettuce that is good was the Butter Crunch Bib lettuce, all other
lettuces tasted hot and strong, I pulled it the most of it. Same with the
neighbors about there lettuce, the extra hot summer seems to have an effect
on lettuce. But I surprised it had no effect on the bib lettuce, tasted
very good.
Potato salad sounds good for tomorrow, left overs today... The cobbler was
good.
>
> Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
> the rhythm.
I am going on my thirteenth year now, I am have pretty much settled into
the country lifestyle. I can tell by the way I drive, slow and looking at
the scenery, people passing me by, yep I am now a country driver, gone are
the bumper riding, speeding, hard accelerating mad man :)
Frank
After posting, I visited neighbor with plants in the ground and they
were bigger and greener but he did go for later planting and is just
starting to get ripe ones while I've had them for nearly a month.
His cucumbers are ready for picking but mine are only an inch or so.
Again, ground vs pot.
Nad R
My cucumbers are going like gang busters, soon the canning equipment gets
dragged out of the basement. I will say cucumbers seem to like hot weather.
I think I am going to grow okra each year again, it must be a food year for
okra growers.
Steve B
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When you see the jackrabbits carrying canteens.
Steve
Nad R
I am seeing more wildlife on the move, water is becoming scarce for them.
The ponds and are really low this year. I saw my little yorkie out in the
field last week and would not come when I called. My little yorkie found a
bunch new born rabbits. Little Mickey killed four new born rabbits about
twice the size of a mouse and was eating one, he ran off from me and
completely ate one of the baby rabbits. I should say the adult rabbits are
just a little bigger than my little feisty dog.
Steve B
"Nad R" <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote
> I am seeing more wildlife on the move, water is becoming scarce for them.
> The ponds and are really low this year. I saw my little yorkie out in the
> field last week and would not come when I called. My little yorkie found a
> bunch new born rabbits. Little Mickey killed four new born rabbits about
> twice the size of a mouse and was eating one, he ran off from me and
> completely ate one of the baby rabbits. I should say the adult rabbits are
> just a little bigger than my little feisty dog.
>
> --
> Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
We have a glut of wildlife here this year due to spring rains last spring.
Included is thousands of acres of foxtails, causing problems with the
animals, and wildfires. I have never ever seen as many rabbits as there are
this year. But correspondingly, no increase in coyote numbers. We have
coyotes come to our back yard, which abuts public land. We have irrigated
pastures. At night, I can see three dozen at any given time. Seems to be
lots of quail, too, coming into their second clutch of this year. But I
haven't heard a coyote yet this year.
I hope the rabbits eat all the foxtails, but they seem to prefer green over
dry.
Not as hot here, only up to 105 or so, but August is coming.
Steve XXtreme SW Utah
Nad R
it rained allot here in May, it sprinkles here every few days, but no down
pours. in my part of the state of Michigan I seem to missing out on the
rain. West side of Michigan gets lots rain and snow every year.
Few coyotes here for now. Our township hires hunters and they seek coyote
dens. They give permission to cross our property, which is fine with me,
they give ample warning, to hunt them. Two years ago they found two dens
with a total of thirty five coyotes. I have seen a coyote about two months
ago, but their population is way down in my area the last two years.
Cause and effect, Lots of rabbits though.
Like the mathematical model: "Predator vs Prey".
FarmI
news:Wildbilly-5F49D...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
It was a rhetorical question.
>> The temps you've mentioned
>> means it hasn't hit the ton yet.
> Cobbler isn't too bad, only takes 20 min.
It's not just the time it takes having the oven on, it's the ingredients
that for me make it a winter dessert. Those carbohydrates are good for
warmth.
Make it in the afternoon when
> things start to cool down and you can open all the windows. At least
> that's what I do, but my low tonight is 52F. Charlie Underlog, and Bill
> Who Putters are looking at 72F for a low tonight.
That's 22C which is not overly hot, but certainly not in the territory of
being a stinker of a night. I really like it when it's 14C whereas 30C is
not at all pleasant.
Makes me faint to
> think of it, and I sleep next to an open window, which, thanks to my
> diuretic, I'm awake enough to close when it gets too cool at night.
:-))
>> And that list of food is winter fare IMO. Here, when it does get hot,
>> summer food is BBQ or cold meats or grilled meat (broiled in USian
>> think)
>> and salads - nothing at all that requires the oven to be on. Dessert is
>> fruit salad or icecream but mainly no dessert at all because it's too
>> darned
>> hot to add food to a stomach that then generates heat in the digestive
>> process.
>
> I'll sometimes boil potatoes of an evening for potato salad the
> following day. My potato salad is at least 50% celery, radish, green
> onion, and pickles with the odd bit of lettuce lining the bowl which is
> thrown in for the presentation.
Sounds great. Mine is a bit all over the place depending on what i have on
hand, but I like mine with crisp bacon bits and gherkins added.
Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
> Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
> house during the winter.
Yup
> Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
> the rhythm.
>
> Our air conditioning (AC) is closing up in the morning, and then opening
> up in the evening. We aren't total savages, we do have an attic fan.
LOL. We have a similar air con system.
FarmI
> My cucumbers are going like gang busters, soon the canning equipment gets
> dragged out of the basement.
How do you 'can' them? ie what do you do to them before they go into the
container?
FarmI
:-)) You sound like you were looking for an excuse to tuck into that peach
cobbler.
I also made a batch of fudge, humidity wreck havoc
> on making good fudge.
>
> But like I said the deck was tooooo hot for grilling. Summer is also for
> bare feet, forget those shoes.
Crocs or flip flops are good for such situations. Slip 'em on as needed and
burned foootsies is a real 'need' situation TMWOT.
>> I'll sometimes boil potatoes of an evening for potato salad the
>> following day. My potato salad is at least 50% celery, radish, green >>
>> onion, and pickles with the odd bit of lettuce lining the bowl which is
>> thrown in for the presentation. Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
>> Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
>> house during the winter.
>
> The only lettuce that is good was the Butter Crunch Bib lettuce, all other
> lettuces tasted hot and strong, I pulled it the most of it. Same with the
> neighbors about there lettuce, the extra hot summer seems to have an
> effect
> on lettuce. But I surprised it had no effect on the bib lettuce, tasted
> very good.
I often use very young silver beet (which I think is chard in USian) in
salads in the hot weather when the lettuce is moribund. It goes very well
with tingy very crisp shredded bacon, very ripe tomatoes and a dressing with
tomato passata added to the oil and vinegar.
Silver beet (chard) just powers through the heat and the young leaves are
still soft enough to eat like a lettuce.
Nad R
I will pickle them, mostly bread and butter, a few will the refrigerator
type, most will use the Water Bath. Some I will slice, some relish, some
whole. I always go by the Holy Bible of Preserving Book, it is THE best
book out there. "Ball Home preserving book"
I have others books, but this book has the details on equipment, food
preparation and canning methods. This book is a must have book for
preserving food.
Nad R
I have never had Swiss Chard, I have seen it, I even have seed packets of
it.
I will look forward to growing them next year... Something new :)
Billy
Sounds more like a vinaigrette type (German) potato salad. Mine are
usually of the mustard and mayonnaise variety with a little of the "Del
Monte" pickle juice thrown in for good measure.
>
> Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
> > Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
> > house during the winter.
>
> Yup
>
> > Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
> > the rhythm.
> >
> > Our air conditioning (AC) is closing up in the morning, and then opening
> > up in the evening. We aren't total savages, we do have an attic fan.
>
> LOL. We have a similar air con system.
We've only had a few days of warm weather, unlike our brethren east of
the Rocky Mountains, where the heat is wicked. Yet to break 100F (38C)
here. It is good for living (low 80F) but not very encouraging for the
garden, which could use another 10 degrees F.
David Hare-Scott
We mainly make sweet sliced cucumbers (bread n butter style) SWMBO has a
great simple recipe if you are interested.
D
Elmo
I know that it is hot when the woman next door gets naked on her deck.
She has been doing it for years and still hasn't realized that my office
window and outside security camera covers her backyard, pool and deck.
Or maybe she does know and simply likes to show off. (She has a lot
worth showing off.)
FarmI
It's a very useful vegetable. The bigger leaves are really tasty if you
wash them, shake the water off, dump them in a pot to which some butter and
freshly grated nugtmeg has been added and then just sweat themin the most
miniscule amoutn of water - often wha'ts left fromt he wahign is enough.
Don't cook the leaves in lots of water till they are mushy unless you like
to eat green-goo mush. My mother used to cook it like that and it was just
so disgusting that it made me want to hurl and it was many, many, many years
into my adult life before I would even touch the stuff - now I just love it.
And even if the leaves get huge and the white (rainbow) ribs get to be huge,
I even love them as I cut the green off, slice the stems, steam them and
toss them in a white sauce to which cheese has been added, or just some
grated parmesan or whatever occurs to me. And chooks and all forms of
poultry just love being given the leaves as a treat. Add to that the fact
that it's probably the closest thing to a 'no care' plant, then it's got the
be good value in the veg garden.
FarmI
Thanks Nad. I'm rather fond of bread and butter cukes, but other than that,
I tend to use them fresh. I've read about the Ball book often but since US
preserving techniques aren't the same as I'd use (and I already have a
thousand such books), I just can't manage to justify buying it.
FarmI
>>
>> Sounds great. Mine is a bit all over the place depending on what i have
>> on
>> hand, but I like mine with crisp bacon bits and gherkins added.
> Sounds more like a vinaigrette type (German) potato salad. Mine are
> usually of the mustard and mayonnaise variety with a little of the "Del >
> Monte" pickle juice thrown in for good measure.
When you say 'vinaigrette' type, are you referring to the dressing on it? I
always use a mayo type dressing.
>>
>> Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
>> > Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
>> > house during the winter.
>>
>> Yup
>>
>> > Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
>> > the rhythm.
>> >
>> > Our air conditioning (AC) is closing up in the morning, and then
>> > opening
>> > up in the evening. We aren't total savages, we do have an attic fan.
>>
>> LOL. We have a similar air con system.
>
> We've only had a few days of warm weather, unlike our brethren east of
> the Rocky Mountains, where the heat is wicked. Yet to break 100F (38C)
> here. It is good for living (low 80F) but not very encouraging for the
> garden, which could use another 10 degrees F.
So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
FarmI
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Yes please. I don't necessarily promise to try it, but it's always worth
checking out any new techniques/ingredients etc, that may improve on my
current one.
Could you ask her indoors if she has a good recipe for a zucchini pickle
while you are at it please? I've tried one sold by a now defunct small
deli that has very thinly sliced zucchini in a very clear pickle liquid and
it has mustard seeds and onions and, accordign to the label, flour. The
flour must be miniscule amount given how clear the liquid is.
Billy
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> "Billy" <Wild...@withouta.net> wrote in message
> news:Wildbilly-76316...@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> > In article <4e2bbdc8$0$3033$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Sounds great. Mine is a bit all over the place depending on what i have
> >> on
> >> hand, but I like mine with crisp bacon bits and gherkins added.
> > Sounds more like a vinaigrette type (German) potato salad. Mine are
> > usually of the mustard and mayonnaise variety with a little of the "Del >
> > Monte" pickle juice thrown in for good measure.
>
> When you say 'vinaigrette' type, are you referring to the dressing on it? I
> always use a mayo type dressing.
My bad. Back in the day that I ate carbs freely, boiled potatoes,
vinaigrette (olive oil, vinegar, mustard, black pepper) and pickles was
a common breakfast for me.
Bacon, gherkins, mayonnaise, and mustard
> >>
> >> Desert is often fruit, and cheese.
> >> > Cooking during the day is out during the summer, but helps warm the
> >> > house during the winter.
> >>
> >> Yup
> >>
> >> > Nad has just moved to the country, it may take awhile for him to find
> >> > the rhythm.
> >> >
> >> > Our air conditioning (AC) is closing up in the morning, and then
> >> > opening
> >> > up in the evening. We aren't total savages, we do have an attic fan.
> >>
> >> LOL. We have a similar air con system.
> >
> > We've only had a few days of warm weather, unlike our brethren east of
> > the Rocky Mountains, where the heat is wicked. Yet to break 100F (38C)
> > here. It is good for living (low 80F) but not very encouraging for the
> > garden, which could use another 10 degrees F.
>
> So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
> impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
Can't hurt. There are numerous new highs, but no new lows, duh!
The people in Greece, Egypt, and Spain seem to know that they are being
ripped-off, and now they have to pay for it again? Show of hands. How
many of you think that we have been ripped-off by the government to the
benefit of the banks that are sitting on piles of money, yet won't make
loans that could create jobs?
Yet, (July 06, 2011) in early April, 60% of voters said (in Boston)
finding new energy sources should take priority over reducing energy
consumption. Prior to the latest survey, the number of voters who share
that view has ranged from a low of 55% to a high of 68%. In those same
surveys, 28% to 35% have felt reducing the amount of energy consumed
should take precedent.
---
But that was before the heat wave that some are calling the "Second
Dust-Bowl.
We got no win solutions, we got people with too many problems to worry
about, and people to take advantage of the situation. See the book:
"The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein
<http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427
999/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300208360&sr=1-1>
(Available at library near you.)
--
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America is not broke.
<http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/mar/10/michael-moore
/michael-moore-sa
You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once.
Vote 3rd Party
Nad R
> In article <4e2d0c99$0$13393$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>>
>> So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
>> impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
Non what so ever, concerning global warning. One third of the USA are of a
strong religious base and are against global warming theory. This same
strong republican religious conservative base will not change. in my book
these people are destroying this country.
Snip..
> We got no win solutions, we got people with too many problems to worry
> about, and people to take advantage of the situation. See the book:
> "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein
> <http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427
> 999/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300208360&sr=1-1>
> (Available at library near you.)
Today in the USA, like those in Europe are concerned with an economic
collapse. There maybe a temporary solution but getting worse in the long
run. In the USA a two thirds majority is needed to get anything done. Not
enough votes to raise taxes and not enough votes to cut the budget.
If nothing gets done by August 2, that is the day the economy could
collapse. If they do vote for temporary solution the collapse day will be
temporarily delayed.
FarmI
> Billy <Wild...@withouta.net> wrote:
>> In article <4e2d0c99$0$13393$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>>>
>>> So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
>>> impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
>
>
> Non what so ever, concerning global warning. One third of the USA are of a
> strong religious base and are against global warming theory. This same
> strong republican religious conservative base will not change. in my book
> these people are destroying this country.
Well it seems some conservative Republicans want to do that at the moment
given the news on the US economic situation. No wonder our dollar is so
high against the US dollar.
>
> Snip..
>
>> We got no win solutions, we got people with too many problems to worry
>> about, and people to take advantage of the situation. See the book:
>> "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" by Naomi Klein
>> <http://www.amazon.com/Shock-Doctrine-Rise-Disaster-Capitalism/dp/0312427
>> 999/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1300208360&sr=1-1>
>> (Available at library near you.)
>
> Today in the USA, like those in Europe are concerned with an economic
> collapse. There maybe a temporary solution but getting worse in the long
> run. In the USA a two thirds majority is needed to get anything done. Not
> enough votes to raise taxes and not enough votes to cut the budget.
>
> If nothing gets done by August 2, that is the day the economy could
> collapse. If they do vote for temporary solution the collapse day will be
> temporarily delayed.
Indeed. What do they expect to happen in a six month window - a miracle?
Nad R
> "Nad R" <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote in message
>>> In article <4e2d0c99$0$13393$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
>>>> impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
>>
>> Non what so ever, concerning global warning.
After some reading, In the US the average carbon use per person is on the
decline in last few years. In Australia the average carbon use per person
is on the increase. If correct, the average Australian now uses more carbon
per person than the average person in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
>> If nothing gets done by August 2, that is the day the economy could
>> collapse. If they do vote for temporary solution the collapse day will be
>> temporarily delayed.
>
> Indeed. What do they expect to happen in a six month window - a miracle?
Doom and Gloom, Sky will Fall, Panic and Mayhem, Armageddon...
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/23/us-default-on-debt-could-be-disastrous-choice-for-economy/
US currency won't be worth spit.
Billy
In a 1 year window, the Republicans hope to beat Obama in the
presidential elections. Which is IMHO a charade to make it look like the
politicians are really doing something, like a couple of WWF Smack-Down
wrestlers before their scripted match. As it stands, the scenario is
that the Democrats are crooks, and the Republicans are crazy. The rich
own the 5 major corporations that control the media by which we are ill
informed <http://la.indymedia.org/news/2003/04/47530_comment.php#48355>
, and through bribes (campaign contributions), the politicians. As with
our healthcare reforms, I predict that the rich will win the next
election.
--
- Billy
Obama is now backing a bipartisan Senate budget plan that would cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy. In addition to entitlement cuts, the so-called "Gang of Six" plan would eliminate a number of popular tax breaks and deductions, including write-offs for home mortgage interest and employer-provided health benefits. The savings would help offset the cost of then lowering the top individual and corporate tax rates from 35 percent to at least 29 percent.
America is not broke.
<http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/mar/10/michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/>
Billy
Nad R <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
So it boils down to the Republicans will gut the country, or leave it to
the IMF (SAP) to gut the country. Everything will be devalued, and the
rich will buy it for pennies on the dollar (The Top 1% wins).
David Hare-Scott
> "David Hare-Scott" <sec...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:j0i3f1$9r1$1...@news.albasani.net...
>> FarmI wrote:
>>> "Nad R" <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> My cucumbers are going like gang busters, soon the canning
>>>> equipment gets dragged out of the basement.
>>>
>>> How do you 'can' them? ie what do you do to them before they go into
>>> the container?
>>
>> We mainly make sweet sliced cucumbers (bread n butter style) SWMBO
>> has a great simple recipe if you are interested.
>
> Yes please. I don't necessarily promise to try it, but it's always
> worth checking out any new techniques/ingredients etc, that may
> improve on my current one.
>
Quick bread and Butter Cucumbers
1 cup = 250ml
20 cups washed and thin-sliced cucumber
4 tsp celery seed
2 tsp ground tumeric
2 tsp yellow mustard seed
6 tsp salt
2 cups sugar
2 cups good white vinegar
Mix sugar with cucumber allow to stand for an hour. Put spices and salt
into vinegar, bring to the boil turn off heat and allow to steep for an
hour. Add vinegar mix to cucumbers and bring to the boil, simmer for 10
minutes. Bottle hot in sterile jars, pushing down the fruit so it is
covered by liquid.
> Could you ask her indoors if she has a good recipe for a zucchini
> pickle while you are at it please?
The same recipe works for zucchinis
David
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>> "Nad R" <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote in message
>
>>>> In article <4e2d0c99$0$13393$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So do you see any evidence that the current 'heat waves' is having any
>>>>> impact on the attitude of the average USian to climate change?
>>>
>>> Non what so ever, concerning global warning.
>
> After some reading, In the US the average carbon use per person is on the
> decline in last few years. In Australia the average carbon use per person
> is on the increase. If correct, the average Australian now uses more
> carbon
> per person than the average person in the United States.
AFAIK, Australia always has had higher per capita emissions than the US.
Not suprising given that we are as big as the lower 48 of the US, have a
high standard of living, a small population clinging round the edges and
highly centralised suppliers.
Where our nations always seemed to be different is that the majority of
Australians would beleive that climate change is real and happening. I'm
sure there are peope in Oz who don't belive it, but I don't know them. I
avoid people whose knuckles drag on the ground when they walk.
>>> If nothing gets done by August 2, that is the day the economy could
>>> collapse. If they do vote for temporary solution the collapse day will
>>> be
>>> temporarily delayed.
>>
>> Indeed. What do they expect to happen in a six month window - a miracle?
>
> Doom and Gloom, Sky will Fall, Panic and Mayhem, Armageddon...
>
> http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/23/us-default-on-debt-could-be-disastrous-choice-for-economy/
>
> US currency won't be worth spit.
I can remeber well when the exchange rate was .59c Au to $1US and pundits
were getting excited about the chance of the $Au breaking the .60c barrier -
now the rate is $1.09Au to $1US so a lot of damage has already been done.
FarmI
Thank you David.
Nad R
After Hot Packing the jars do you put them in a BWB, Boiling Water Bath?
David Hare-Scott
No. As long as the jars and lids are sterile and you fill them with near
boiling fruit it isn't required. If have used this method a lot and never
had one go bad.
D
Nad R
i was just wondering about the ten minute simmering point.
I do not think it is about going bad, the vinegar will alone will do it's
jobs. Pushing out the extra little bit of air, I would think, may or may
not improve the color and texture of the pickles. But I am not sure. Most
books I have read uses a ten minute BWB at the end of processing. Thought
that may be the simmering point.
FarmI
I know you asked the question of David, but I'll chip in. If I was packing
hot pickle type product into hot sterilised bottles, I wouldn't bother.