ping Nad R & Billy
FarmI
thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread
baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one
that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is
specifically for the US market.
Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the
introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt
if you care about what you eat.
Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being
turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile
of loaves on the cover:
http://www.randomhouse.com/book/200804/the-river-cottage-bread-handbook-by-daniel-stevens
Billy
Ordered from the library.
What's the difference between the British and the American books?
Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language,
except Italian, the language used where she lives.
There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti,
in German, "avec sous titres".
--
- Billy
America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
<http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/mar/10/michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/>
You put Lloyd Blankfein in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for one six-month term, and all this bullshit would stop, all over Wall Street. That's all it would take. Just once.
Nad R
> In article <4e23acbc$0$22472$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>
>> Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series and
>> thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in bread
>> baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one
>> that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is
>> specifically for the US market.
>>
>> Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the
>> introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading aoubt
>> if you care about what you eat.
>>
>> Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being
>> turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a pile
>> of loaves on the cover:
>> http://www.randomhouse.com/book/200804/the-river-cottage-bread-handbook-by-dan
>> iel-stevens
>
> Ordered from the library.
>
> What's the difference between the British and the American books?
>
> Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language,
> except Italian, the language used where she lives.
>
> There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti,
> in German, "avec sous titres".
Seems that they are a series of "River Cottage" books on the country life,
similar to the "Storey's Country Living" series that are popular here in
the US. The book does look interesting, like Peter Rienhart's books on
bread making does not completely dismiss the use of Mixer Machines but
teaches not use that much. What I not going build is a brick oven. But they
are clay cloche for oven use that I have not tried to use.
I do have to count my pennies these days and I have bread books already. I
did put the book in my wish list. The series of books looks very
interesting.
I do have my sourdough starters going now that the temperatures are warm
enough to grow them. I do not keep the temperature high enough during the
winter for the starters. Fresh bread oder that fill the house is a pleasant
thing that allot people are missing out on.
Badly needed rain is coming. It has not rained much here last three weeks,
my rain barrels are empty. Watering with the well for most of garden. First
too much rain and now too little. The well water is not the best for my
plants.
Like other usenets, postings are way down across the boards. People moving
to FaceBook forums from I have read... Something I will probably not do :)
--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>
>> Nad - I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook" series
>> and
>> thought you might be interested since you too seem to be interested in
>> bread
>> baking. I'm going to buy a copy when I can figure out how to buy the one
>> that was for the UK audience not the US, but the one I am reading is
>> specifically for the US market.
>>
>> Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the
>> introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading
>> aoubt
>> if you care about what you eat.
>>
>> Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being
>> turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a
>> pile
>> of loaves on the cover:
>> http://www.randomhouse.com/book/200804/the-river-cottage-bread-handbook-by-dan
>> iel-stevens
>
> Ordered from the library.
>
> What's the difference between the British and the American books?
In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades
converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy.
There are a raft of books put out under the River Cottage banner and one of
the others I also have on library loan, called 'The River Cottage Cookbook'
has several pages of other specific USian stuff of various interest or
otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a
year (1LB/person/year which astonished me) and lots about what organic means
(or doesn't) in certain US juridictions, how certain stock are reared etc -
the author is a commited carnivore but also a power veg grower. I've
borrowed a whole lot of these River Cottage books to see if I'd like to own
them and I want the whole lot.
> Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language,
> except Italian, the language used where she lives.
Yep, I knew that.
> There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti,
> in German, "avec sous titres".
That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT.
Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly
recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half
books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read.
FarmI
news:j01262$eo4$1...@dont-email.me...
What about borrowing them from a library? I have done that to see if I want
to own them and I've decided that I will (and I need yet more cookbooks/how
to books like I need another few holes in my head).
Peter Reinhart has a comment on the back of the bread book and he says:
"This book is not only beautiful and inspiring but it also adds new
bread-making ideas and formulas to the lexicon. It definitely goes on my
'must-have' bread shelf."
>
> I do have my sourdough starters going now that the temperatures are warm
> enough to grow them. I do not keep the temperature high enough during the
> winter for the starters.
My house is as cold as a step-mother's breath in winter (right now) but I'm
still trying to get a sourdough started as a result of being inspired by
this book. I have the batter sitting on a cake cooling rack on the top of
our wood burnign kichen range which tends to stay warm all night even if it
sometimes goes out if we go to bed too ealry or dont' get up early enough.
Fresh bread oder that fill the house is a pleasant
> thing that allot people are missing out on.
It sure is. I made 2 loaves today, by hand. I gave my bread machine away
years ago becaseu i was not impressed with the product from it and have made
bread by hand ever since. We've made to occasional foray into bought bread
but our our latest baker has got new staff and his bread has gone from
sublime to boring - back to my loaves again.
> Badly needed rain is coming. It has not rained much here last three weeks,
> my rain barrels are empty.
Gee,a whole 3 weeks. I wish I got rain so frequently ;-))
Watering with the well for most of garden. First
> too much rain and now too little. The well water is not the best for my
> plants.
>
> Like other usenets, postings are way down across the boards. People moving
> to FaceBook forums from I have read... Something I will probably not do :)
No, I won't me either. I mightt use online forums, but I doubt that I'll
even bother with those once usenet finally dies.
BTW, the preserving book by pam Corbin, looks especially good - I am going
to make that the very first one of the lot that I buy.
Billy
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> "Billy" <Wild...@withouta.net> wrote in message
> > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> >
> >> I've been reading a book from the "River Cottage Handbook"
<snip>
> >>
> >> Billy - you may be interested in this because of a brief mention of the
> >> introduction of the 'Chorleywood bread process' whihc is worth reading
> >> aoubt
> >> if you care about what you eat.
I've been low-carbing. Trying to keep my blood sugar down but last night
I cracked, and we had our first pasta primavera (été) of the season. God
it was good. Whole wheat pasta, tomatoes, sweet peppers, scallions,
basil, garlic, & lemon zest with olive oil as the sauce, accompanied
with a side order of sautéed zucchini. The basil, peppers, and zucchini
where from the garden. Good stuff, and will only get gooder as the
garden progresses.
> >>
> >> Daniel Stevens is the author - the US version of the has 2 loaves being
> >> turned out of bread proving baskets, whereas the UK version just has a
> >> pile
> >> of loaves on the cover:
> >> http://www.randomhouse.com/book/200804/the-river-cottage-bread-handbook-by-
> >> dan
> >> iel-stevens
> >
> > Ordered from the library.
> >
> > What's the difference between the British and the American books?
>
> In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades
> converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy.
Does that mean, units aside, that you cook more with weight (mass) as
opposed to volume (tablespoons, cups)?
> There are a raft of books put out under the River Cottage banner and one of
> the others I also have on library loan, called 'The River Cottage Cookbook'
> has several pages of other specific USian stuff of various interest or
> otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a
> year (1LB/person/year which astonished me)
Likewise, I've never gotten used to the flavor of lamb. The best I've
had came with a strong soy sauce glaze. It covered the flavor. But I'm
no gourmet, I don't like the taste of salmon either.
>and lots about what organic means
> (or doesn't) in certain US juridictions, how certain stock are reared etc -
> the author is a commited carnivore but also a power veg grower. I've
> borrowed a whole lot of these River Cottage books to see if I'd like to own
> them and I want the whole lot.
>
> > Apparently, Donna Leon's books have been printed in every language,
> > except Italian, the language used where she lives.
>
> Yep, I knew that.
>
> > There is also a video series about Venetian Commissario Guido Brunetti,
> > in German, "avec sous titres".
>
> That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT.
Careful, "boobs" hold an exalted and sacred position in my pantheon of
desires. You, the proud owner of a pair, my not share my fascination
>
> Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly
> recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half
> books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read.
The New York Times book list seems to like him too.
Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix).
I enjoy the cinema, but it is my "Lovey-poo" who enjoys reading the
"who-done-it"s. I read little fiction, and often that is junk sci-fi.
(It keeps my eyes moving, but I don't have to think about it much.) When
I'm not reading who-why-what-when-and-where documentary kinds of things,
I find solace from a series on haiku by R.H. Blyth
<http://www.ralphmag.org/haikuP.html>
Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
a stranger in a strange land.
Nad R
> In article <4e240d3d$0$2444$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>
>>> What's the difference between the British and the American books?
>>
>> In the US version I'm reading, it's full of lbs and ozs. I've spent decades
>> converting to metric so don't want to go there again when I buy my own copy.
> Does that mean, units aside, that you cook more with weight (mass) as
> opposed to volume (tablespoons, cups)?
The newer books from Peter Reinhart shows both Imperial and Metric measures
for bread making Ingredients. So conversions should not be a problem. I
have a small digital kitchen scale that does the conversions for me if
needed. The larger measuring bowls also have both systems etched into the
glass. And I have two sets of measuring cups in Imperial and Metric for
volume measures. So going back and forth these days should not be much of a
concern.
http://www.amazon.com/Peter-Reinharts-Artisan-Breads-Every/dp/1580089984/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c
I spent one hour outside today weeding and I could feel my skin cooking...
96 Fahrenheit. Staying indoors and Hoping for a popup storm to cool things
off. Why did I not plant okra this year :(
songbird
>Farm1 wrote:
...
>> Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly
>> recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half
>> books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read.
> The New York Times book list seems to like him too.
>
> Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix).
the movie is not much at all like the
books. if you won't read them you are
missing the boat (so to speak).
...
> Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
> a stranger in a strange land.
for science fiction that does get
you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds
(almost everything he's written i have
enjoyed).
songbird
Billy
songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> Billy wrote:
> >Farm1 wrote:
> ...
> >> Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I strongly
> >> recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half
> >> books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read.
> > The New York Times book list seems to like him too.
> >
> > Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix).
>
> the movie is not much at all like the
> books. if you won't read them you are
> missing the boat (so to speak).
They are for my Lovey-poo, if she is happy, it will make me happier than
all the boats in the world.
>
>
> ...
> > Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
> > a stranger in a strange land.
>
> for science fiction that does get
> you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds
> (almost everything he's written i have
> enjoyed).
Noted for the next time I wander away from my pile of unread books.
Thanks
>
>
> songbird
Nad R
>> Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
>> a stranger in a strange land.
>
> for science fiction that does get
> you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds
> (almost everything he's written i have
> enjoyed).
>
>
> songbird
I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a Strange
Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science
fiction books.
However, after looking at my collect, I have not read one book by Alaster
Reynolds. The author will soon be on my purchase list. My current read is
"www: wonder by Robert J. Sawyer" it is a blah read second book of three.
Before that a couple of Jack McDevitt books was ok not bad. The last
excellent read was "The Windup Girl by Paoplo Bacigalupi". Next up would
have to be "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge", I have not been disappointed by
any of Vinges books.
But soon to have Alaster Reynolds part of my collection.
A little shower outside right now... It is not much, perhaps a bucket in
each of my rain barrels. But better than nothing. First rain here in two
weeks, past storms kept on missing me.
Billy
Nad R <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
Paoplo Bacigalupi seems to have a number of well recieved books.
Nad R
> In article <j0280k$ndl$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Nad R <na...@positivegogetter.cooldude> wrote:
>
> Paoplo Bacigalupi seems to have a number of well recieved books.
I never got impression that you liked Science Fiction?
But that novel does have some future ideas of how Genetically Engineered
foods may effect the far far future.
songbird
> songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
>> Billy wrote:
>> ...
>>> Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
>>> a stranger in a strange land.
>>
>> for science fiction that does get
>> you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds
>> (almost everything he's written i have
>> enjoyed).
>
> Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred science
> fiction books.
i couldn't guess how many i've read.
probably in the thousands. i used to
read several science fiction books a week
along with the other reading i would do.
when i went to the library i would come
home with one or two old fashioned paper
bags full of books... i'm pretty sure that
Piers Anthony, Orson Scott Card and Asimov
have several hundred books between them,
add Clarke, Webber, Dickson, Heinlein,
Saberhagen, Herbert (and now son), Jordan,
Kurtz, Lackey, Pohl, Forward, Sterling,
...
my collection was mostly sold off when
i moved from up north. i was very close
to moving across country and didn't want
to haul all of those boxes with me.
> However, after looking at my collect, I have not read one book by Alaster
> Reynolds. The author will soon be on my purchase list. My current read is
> "www: wonder by Robert J. Sawyer" it is a blah read second book of three.
i've not really liked much of his writing --
sadly as the topics are interesting. i've
enjoyed McDevitts work much more so.
> Before that a couple of Jack McDevitt books was ok not bad. The last
> excellent read was "The Windup Girl by Paoplo Bacigalupi". Next up would
> have to be "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge", I have not been disappointed by
> any of Vinges books.
yes, True Names, the Fire Upon the Deep, and a Deepness in
the Sky are worth the reads.
being a techie and interested in AI i've
always liked any books that are about how
computers/robots try to take over the world
or are misunderstood. and first contact
stories too. i had a nice collection of
these kinds along with the cyberpunk
authors, but then sold them all off.
> But soon to have Alaster Reynolds part of my collection.
i would skip his most recent short
work. as that was perhaps the weakest
of the lot.
> A little shower outside right now... It is not much, perhaps a bucket in
> each of my rain barrels. But better than nothing. First rain here in two
> weeks, past storms kept on missing me.
just a short bit of rain here too.
storms usually weaken or split when
they get to us as this is the valley.
today was no exception. north of us
had a good bit of rain.
songbird
Nad R
>
> being a techie and interested in AI i've
> always liked any books that are about how
> computers/robots try to take over the world
> or are misunderstood. and first contact
> stories too. i had a nice collection of
> these kinds along with the cyberpunk
> authors, but then sold them all off.
Then you will love "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge".
FarmI
<ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> I've been low-carbing.
Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food
available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've seen
relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT.
Trying to keep my blood sugar down but last night
> I cracked, and we had our first pasta primavera (été) of the season. God
> it was good. Whole wheat pasta, tomatoes, sweet peppers, scallions,
> basil, garlic, & lemon zest with olive oil as the sauce, accompanied
> with a side order of sautéed zucchini. The basil, peppers, and zucchini
> where from the garden. Good stuff, and will only get gooder as the
> garden progresses.
Atta boy! That's good food.
>> otherwise. Stuff like how low the poundage of lamb eaten in the US in a
>> year (1LB/person/year which astonished me)
> Likewise, I've never gotten used to the flavor of lamb. The best I've
> had came with a strong soy sauce glaze. It covered the flavor. But I'm
> no gourmet, I don't like the taste of salmon either.
I love a good lamb cutlet. TMWOT, it's straight from the culinary Gods. It
makes a good steak pale into insignificance IMO. But more lamb for me if
you don't like it :-))
>> That would be about as useful as boobs on a budgerigar TMWOT.
> Careful, "boobs" hold an exalted and sacred position in my pantheon of
> desires. You, the proud owner of a pair, my not share my fascination
Absolutely not. Useless things once their biological function is done
with - need medical tests that cost money or otherwise they can just
possibly go cancerous and kill one.
>> Have you read Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin series? If not, I
>> strongly
>> recommend all 20 and a half books in the series (or is that 21 and half
>> books??). Best author I have ever had the pleasure to read.
> The New York Times book list seems to like him too.
>
> Master and Commander requested from our library (and from Netflix).
I do warn of a possible serius addiction resulting. I have no interest
whatsoever in the British navy, the Napoleonic wars, The war againt the US
in about 1812(???) or any of the other subject matter in these books but I
was hooked from about p50. Wonderful English prose - pity I can't find
someone else who writes as well.
joy the cinema, but it is my "Lovey-poo" who enjoys reading the
> "who-done-it"s. I read little fiction, and often that is junk sci-fi.
Good sci-fi is well worth the effort but junk s-f gives me the irrits. I've
just read Terry Nation's "The survivors" and although a simple little book,
it was a blast from the long distant past and enormously satisfying.
> (It keeps my eyes moving, but I don't have to think about it much.) When
> I'm not reading who-why-what-when-and-where documentary kinds of things,
> I find solace from a series on haiku by R.H. Blyth
> <http://www.ralphmag.org/haikuP.html>
V. nice. I do like Japanese verse about platns and gardens - can never
rember the exact words but wonderful nevertheless. One fave is; 'the
morning glory twines around the well bucket, so I lack water'.
> Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature I am
> a stranger in a strange land.
All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-))
FarmI
news:7dhef8-...@ID-306963.user.uni-berlin.de...
It was a combination of 2 of the books which were widely separated in the
series. Although I do agree that it isn't a patch on the books, I found
that it really helped me in understandign a lot of the nautical terms, the
cramped nature of the boats and the noise and the drama of battle (and I did
enjoy seeing 'the lesser of two......' being said by Jack).
Billy
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
> "Billy" <Wild...@withouta.net> wrote in message news:Wildbilly-> "FarmI"
> <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>
> > I've been low-carbing.
>
> Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food
> available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've seen
> relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT.
In my case I'm a "Type II" diabetic. If I want to keep my organism, I'm
required to keep my blood glucose low.
For a close (if somewhat overwhelming) look at low carbing, see
"Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
of Diet and Health" (Vintage)
by Gary Taubes
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/14000334
62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1
p.194
Anything that raises blood sugar - in particular, the consumption of
refined and easily digestible carbohydrates - will increase the
generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of
oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of
advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises
blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to
more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a
pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become
diabetic.
>
> Trying to keep my blood sugar down but last night
> > I cracked, and we had our first pasta primavera (été) of the season. God
> > it was good. Whole wheat pasta, tomatoes, sweet peppers, scallions,
> > basil, garlic, & lemon zest with olive oil as the sauce, accompanied
> > with a side order of sautéed zucchini. The basil, peppers, and zucchini
> > where from the garden. Good stuff, and will only get gooder as the
> > garden progresses.
>
> Atta boy! That's good food.
Finished the pasta last night with our first harvest of green beans.
We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to
go.
The brushwood,
Though cut for fuel,
Is beginning to bud.
- Boncho
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>> "Billy" <Wild...@withouta.net> wrote in message news:Wildbilly->
>> "FarmI"
>> <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>>
>> > I've been low-carbing.
>>
>> Pffff!!! I'm no fan of such a thing. I believe we have a mix of food
>> available to us and that we shoudl partake. The only 'evidence' I've
>> seen
>> relating to low-carb looks quite like quackerie TMWOT.
> In my case I'm a "Type II" diabetic. If I want to keep my organism, I'm
> required to keep my blood glucose low.
You certainly have good reason to know exactly what you are eating with that
condition. Most low-carb proponents I've seen on usenet, don't have a
similar reason.
> For a close (if somewhat overwhelming) look at low carbing, see
> "Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
> of Diet and Health" (Vintage)
> by Gary Taubes
> http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/14000334
> 62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1
>
> p.194
> Anything that raises blood sugar - in particular, the consumption of
> refined and easily digestible carbohydrates
'refined and easily digestible' indeed, but what about complex
carbohydrates? Surely anyone with Type II would know to stay away from
simple carbohydrates and know all about the complex carbohydrates. I note
that the snippet you've quoted mentions nothing whatsoever about the latter
so I'd hope it appears later in that cite.
If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be to
buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea
because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my bread -
one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good freshly
ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo preventative
investment.
- will increase the
> generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of
> oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of
> advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises
> blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to
> more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a
> pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become
> diabetic.
>> All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-))
> We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to
> go.
I hope I don't need any more loads this season - it seems to have been
rather cold to date.
>
> The brushwood,
> Though cut for fuel,
> Is beginning to bud.
> - Boncho
:-))
songbird
>> being a techie and interested in AI i've
>> always liked any books that are about how
>> computers/robots try to take over the world
>> or are misunderstood. and first contact
>> stories too. i had a nice collection of
>> these kinds along with the cyberpunk
>> authors, but then sold them all off.
>
> Then you will love "Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge".
i think i've read it, but i will double
check next time i get a chance.
songbird
Bill who putters
songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
I like this series.
Lord Foul's Bane (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Book
1)
12 books in all or at least 9. Not Sci-fi but fantasy. I have a hard
time distinguishing the two labels.
"Tell them at Riverstone that there is no help for the land."
--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
Nad R
>
> 12 books in all or at least 9. Not Sci-fi but fantasy. I have a hard
> time distinguishing the two labels.
For the most part it goes like this:
Science Fiction tends to deal in the future. Fantasy tends to deal in the
past.
Science Fiction tends to have the hero solving a technical or social
problem. Fantasy tends to have the hero on a quest of some kind.
I do not read that many books in the fantasy arena. "American Gods by Neil
Gaiman" and last book I read from fantasy was book one of three, (2&3) not
out yet, was "The Left Hand of God by Paul Hoffman". I tend to avoid
authors that have a series of them if know before hand. So I will wait for
Mr Hoffman to release the last two novels, however, Hoffman's writing do
flow well, it was a good read".
David Hare-Scott
> songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
>> Billy wrote:
>> ...
>>> Thanks again for the tips, and advice. When it comes to literature
>>> I am a stranger in a strange land.
>>
>> for science fiction that does get
>> you wondering again try Alastair Reynolds
>> (almost everything he's written i have
>> enjoyed).
>>
>>
>> songbird
>
> I have read around twenty of Robert Heilen's books. Stranger in a
> Strange Land is an excellent read. I have read well over four hundred
> science fiction books.
>
I read SIASL when I was about 20 and thought it was a hoot. I re-read it a
few years ago and found it very dated. The "shocking" parts no longer have
any shock and while I understand the parody of American religion much better
now it isn't as funny. Heinlein never wrote great prose like (for example)
Card. Apparently the original version was somewhat censored by the
publisher and Heinlein's estate published the full version a few years ago,
possibly in an effort to put some punch into it.
David
Nad R
I read and have the original version. I suppose gay marriages in the past
was a shocker and people that saw someone with tattoos all over their body
may no longer have that shocker value. But the beauty of it, he was way
ahead of time.
The same with "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" the insight of computers and
Artificial Intelligence theories he talks about when people were still
using slide rules in those days.
An amazing writer.
I do remember you stated that you were a founding member of a Heinlein fan
club?
Billy
Enriched flour is interesting. Some 40 nutrients are removed from the
flour, and 5 are added back and it's called enriched.
p. 96
White flour's low protein, vitamins, and mineral content made it "less
liable than whole meal flour to infestations by beetles and the
depredations of rodents", as Sir Stanley Davidson and Reginald Passmore
observed in their textbook Human Nutrition and Dietetics (1963).
>
> - will increase the
> > generation of oxidants and free radicals; it will increase the rate of
> > oxidative stress and glycation,and the formation and accumulation of
> > advanced glycation end products. This means that anything that raises
> > blood sugar, by the logic of the carbohydrate hypothesis, will lead to
> > more atherosclerosis and heart disease, more vascular disorders, and a
> > pace of accelerated degeneration, even in those of us who never become
> > diabetic.
>
> >> All literature is probably strange in it's own way :-))
> > We picked up our first load of firewood yesterday. Three more loads to
> > go.
>
> I hope I don't need any more loads this season - it seems to have been
> rather cold to date.
It's the Spring here, that eats up most of our firewood.
Gotta get my work here done. The grape harvest is coming up soon (with
any luck at all) so I need to get my house work finished.
> >
> > The brushwood,
> > Though cut for fuel,
> > Is beginning to bud.
> > - Boncho
>
> :-))
David Hare-Scott
No
D
FarmI
> I like this series.
>
> Lord Foul's Bane (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, Book
I know I've read at least one of them, but I'm darned if I can remember
anythign about them/it. Were they vaguely Medieval?
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
>> If I ever end up with Type II diabetes, the first thing I'd do would be
>> to
>> buy myself a decent grain mill. I've recently been toying with the idea
>> because of the wonderful taste that freshly ground wheat gives to my
>> bread -
>> one forgets that wheat has a great taste until you get really good
>> freshly
>> ground flour. Perhaps I should convince myself it'd be a godo
>> preventative
>> investment.
>
> Enriched flour is interesting. Some 40 nutrients are removed from the
> flour, and 5 are added back and it's called enriched.
>
> p. 96
> White flour's low protein, vitamins, and mineral content made it "less >
> liable than whole meal flour to infestations by beetles and the
> depredations of rodents", as Sir Stanley Davidson and Reginald Passmore
> observed in their textbook Human Nutrition and Dietetics (1963).
If bugs won't eat it, nor should humans :-))
> It's the Spring here, that eats up most of our firewood.
Why is that?
Bill who putters
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote:
Present day alternate universe.
Billy
Brain fart.
Most of our wood gets burned Jan. thru March, which is technically
winter, but this year we were still building winter fires in April and
May. We have some 30 - 40 trees, better to hold the hillside in one
place, and all fallen limbs, or overlooked wood from previous tree
trimmings went into the stove before the weather improved. Most of what
we burn comes from a company that makes gun stocks out of walnut.
Usually the trash that our trees throw is used as kindling.