2008 VTES Awards - Results
Charlotte By Night
to everyone who took the time to vote. Here are the Results:
1. Best Card - Target Vitals
2. Best Vampire in a Leading Role - Nakhthorheb
3. Best Vampire in a Supporting Role - Carmen
4. Best Equipment - Camera Phone
5. Best Ally - Nocturn
6. Best Event - Narrow Minds
7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil
coincoi...@hotmail.com
> 7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil
I didn't know so many people were in love with Avril Lavigne
preac...@gmx.at
> > 7. Best Art - Liquefy the Mortal Coil
>
> I didn't know so many people were in love with Avril Lavigne
Heather Kreiter is in outstanding artist. Her artworks capture the
vampiric nature of the game in most cases. Liquify the Mortal Coil
looks just plain cool.
Who is Avril Lavigne and what has that to do with the piece of art
from Heather?
Meej
> 3. Best Vampire in a Supporting Role - Carmen
Sure that's not "Best Vampire in a Supporting Undergarment" ? :-)
- D.J.
Jozxyqk
Avril Lavigne is a Canadian teen pop singer.
Liquefy's artwork is based on this picture of her here:
http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33
Orpheus
I didn't know that ! Weird, I'd have thought WW would be more careful after
the Camille Devereux issues...
--
Orpheus, unofficial Shemti model.
jcrossn...@gmail.com
That also. Seriously though, Carmen deserves the win here. Her blanket
+1 stealth on equip actions is great in a variety of decks. Her
discipline spread puts her squarely into any Tremere crypt that groups
4-5 will produce, and the auspex and dominate can get her slotted into
a variety of funky Black Hand decks.
I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best
card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with
combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly
good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much
stronger contenders for best library card of 2007.
Jesse
Peter D Bakija
<318c46a6-153b-4dc6...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
No, no. You apparently didn't know that so many people were in love with
seeing Avril Lavigne disintigrate into a pile of goo...
Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html
"Find hungry samurai."
-The Old Man
coincoi...@hotmail.com
>
> No, no. You apparently didn't know that so many people were in love with
> seeing Avril Lavigne disintigrate into a pile of goo...
>
> Peter D Bakija
>
> "Find hungry samurai."
> -The Old Man
^^
Teeka
> Jozxyqk wrote:
> > Avril Lavigne is a Canadian teen pop singer.
>
> > Liquefy's artwork is based on this picture of her here:
> >http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33
>
DAMN! Now I don't like it anymore.. will never be able to play that
card ever again without hearing "he was a skater boy, she said see you
later boy".. in my head. God I hate her music.
> I didn't know that ! Weird, I'd have thought WW would be more careful after
> the Camille Devereux issues...
>
Indeed. But I think Avril will probably never know about it. She's too
fake to actually like stuff with skulls on. Bet she never wears that
ring at home.
Arh! I'm going to play some real punk rock right away...
Teeka
aahzma...@gmail.com
> Jozxyqk wrote:
Camille Devereux issues, I´ve never heard about that, can you tell me
little more about it? :-)
Teeka
> Camille Devereux issues, I´ve never heard about that, can you tell me
>
In short:
The original "Camille Devereux" card from Jyhad featured art directly
"based on" a photo from a well-known lingerie catalogue. Wizards of
the Coast, who were publishing VTES at the time, got sued over it and
changed the card to "Raven" with new art in the VTES base set (WW
later combined these two as one single card in the 10th Ann. set).
It has happened more often though, look for the 10 differences between
the art for Hannibal from Sabbat War and this picture of David Bowie
by Anton Corbijn:
http://www.createbrand.ru/images/zap/image_2131.jpg
Man, I bitch a lot about photochop, but these things don't say
"artistic integrity" either. What's wrong with taking a picture of a
friend in a similar position (if you like it so much) and taking that
as a base for your piece instead of some other artist's work..
jcrossn...@gmail.com
> > >http://www.celebrity-scans.com/displayimage.php?album=38&pos=33
>
> DAMN! Now I don't like it anymore.. will never be able to play that
> card ever again without hearing "he was a skater boy, she said see you
> later boy".. in my head. God I hate her music.
Have you ever actually played Liquefy the Mortal Coil?
Jesse
sul...@aol.com
> I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best
> card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with
> combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly
> good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much
> stronger contenders for best library card of 2007.
>
> Jesse
There are certainly limits* to the card which in my mind didn't make
it an obviously better card than competitors, but its advantage over
other cards I'd consider among the best in the last two sets is that
it's game changing. All sorts of possibilities have been created that
didn't exist before. That's an unusual feature in a card and one
highly sought after.
* For me, the fact that it's a combat card weakens its desirability
rather than enhances it.
Peter D Bakija
> I'm a little weirded out that Target: Vitals won the vote for best
> card. I think this has to do with the all too common obsession with
> combat, more than the actual merits of the card. T:V is certainly
> good, perhaps even very good, but I think there were several much
> stronger contenders for best library card of 2007.
Yeah, I think folks are still vastly overestimating the usefulness of
this card. I mean, yeah, ok, it is a pretty solid inclusion for most
combat strategies, and it makes disciplineless combat a bunch more
viable than it used to be, but it is really easy to avoid--any common
combat defense foils it, any minimal damage prevention foils it, and
then any two combat cards in hand foil it. I've been using it a lot
recently in real life and JOL, and it does nothing other than cycle a
card out of my hand far more often than not. Once and a while, it
sticks and does some good damage, but if it is going to stick and do
damage, any other combat was probably going to stick and do damage
too.
I think that, say, Veil the Leigons is far, far more useful in a
grande sense than Target: Vitals. And I like trying to win with
combat.
-Peter
robert...@hotmail.com
> Man, I bitch a lot about photochop, but these things don't say
> "artistic integrity" either. What's wrong with taking a picture of a
> friend in a similar position (if you like it so much) and taking that
> as a base for your piece instead of some other artist's work..
Well, for that matter (since we're talking about photochop and stolen
art) Carmen's art is taken from a photo of a fairly well known
lingerie model's work. I do not have the link to it but Kevin Mergen
does (give it up, Kevin, KMJ can deal with it).
Churchy La Femme
Whoops, that's Snelly, either way he can deal too.
robert...@hotmail.com
Maegnar
wrote:
Talking about real-life models, I've always thought that Selene (!
Tremere) was a reference to Kate Beckinsale's Selene in "Underworld"
movie. Thou not sure if there was a real image that got photoshop'ed
or not.
LSJ
> I've always thought that Selene (!
> Tremere) was a reference to Kate Beckinsale's Selene in "Underworld"
> movie.
Selena (not "Selene") appeared in The Beast Within (1994) and Prince of the City
(1995). Underworld didn't come out until 2003.
Salem
http://www.beautydestroyed.com/
although it seems to have just become a link to her myspace now, so
you'll need a myspace login to check out the pics.
Specifically,
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=137402444&albumID=958104&imageID=8269830
Looks like she knows about, and is ok with, the VTES card.
--
salem
(replace 'hotmail' with 'yahoo' to email)
Johannes Walch
And WW sued the "Underworld" creators (Sony?) instead of the other way
round ;-)