If you could ask your fav pin designer a question?
pinball_tom
this question out there to you guys an gals.So what would you ask them
if you could an what would you change if you could?
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Adm56
I love my CV and John Papaduik's other games but I'd ask him why he
made the feed from the VUK so random on CV. You get some crazy bounces
in all that open space sometimes and the ball saver doesn't always
help. I assume it may be due to having to route the subway through
such a crowded playfield. It's the only (minor) think I dislike about
the game.
Lloyd Olson
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Adm56
Sorry Popadiak. :)
Adm56
I mean Popaduik....wow...I'm on a roll tonight. :P:
DugFreez
> Python. In your own words. What do you think of Steve Ritchie ? LTG :)
With a question like that...there has to be some backstory I don't
know about.
As for a favorite designer...I don't know if I have one. I love my
Steve Ritchie Black Spider-Man along with Steve's STTNG. I also love a
lot of Barry Oursler's games. I think my designer question wouldn't be
designer specific.
I'd just ask if they had a hard time thinking of designs that did
seem to similar to other machines that had already been built? I can
imagine that you could have a game planned out and not realize it's
very much like another game until you were deep in the design process.
I just wonder if that happens ofter?
CEG
I'd like some home roms for my BSD which is also my favorite machine.
Gott Lieb?
Jim
On Dec 6, 11:03 pm, pinball_tom <tallman2isb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
mattyb
I would ask Steve Ritchie why the hell there isn't a switch to detect
the "Escape" shot on 24.(Don't say the shooter lane switch, that's
lame.) My sense is that SR had nothing to do with it since: 1 - the
game was finished without him, and, 2 - only a friggin moron would
design a shot without a switch to detect it. :)
MattyB
Taylor-VA
Dear Pat,
Anymore?
sincerely,
TSR
Butterflygirl24
Hmmmm??? You could have said designers and artists?? ;-) I have been
fortunate enough that I have been able to ask most of my favorites the
questions that were eating at me about my favorite games...I still
have a couple that I wanna ask though!! LOL!!!
I asked Barry Oursler...Why he didn't make (my favorite game) Bad
Cats a MultiBall game (Top cast interview), as well as why he didn't
have any speech on Solar Fire (I think it would be cool to have the
aliens taunting you ala BK when you loose a ball during a game)...:-)
Had many discussions with Steve Kordek, Wayne Neyens, and Norm Clark,
about pin designing the way it used to be...;-)
I have asked Python many questions....:-) (Python is well...Python,
you have to talk to him to really understand ;-)!!)
I have asked Steve Ritchie many questions about F-14, and others...(I
still have 1 I want to ask him and Mark about F-14...but I always
forget when I see them!!)
Had a conversation with Mark Ritchie about Firepower II...
And also a conversation with Roger Sharpe about some of the shots on
Barracora, and I was even lucky enough to have him show me some of
those shots at Expo this year. ;-)
Larry Demar showed me a couple shots on Scorpion...and talked with him
about several other pins...
Duncan Brown played a game on his "Chief Bank-A-Flip Galactic Poker
Dice" pin with us...:-)
All great guys!! :-) That I have had the privilege to talk to!! As
well as others!!
I guess the 1 that I would like to ask a question of that I have never
met (was all ready for his talk at Expo but he didn't make it!!) would
be Seamus McLaughlin...I wanna know where all the naked ladies are on
the Pharaoh BG?? ;-0 I have stared at that glass for hours...and I
think I have found 7, but he says in an interview that they put
14...so I wanna know where the heck the rest of them are!!! ;-)
And just recently I have a few questions I would love to ask
Constantino??? :-)
Maybe one day!! ;-)
Phoebe
CARGPB#38
Rick
Monopoly?
Really?
kirb
Steve, want to go for a motorcycle ride?
Bryan Kelly
things to say about.
It was every other designer that sucked.
Bryan (CARGPB 14)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
Max Badazz
Why did you never make a DMD sequel for Hollywood Heat? A modern
version of that game would be kick-ass.
Why does Flintstones only have five modes while Dredd has 9?
Can I buy one of your whitewoods? (I would love Hollywood Heat to go
with your copy of the manual I got from you a few years ago)
Why haven't you made a game for Stern yet?
Why do I hate Deadly Weapon as much as I love it? (how is that even
possible?)
Why couldn't Bugs Bunny be better designed? (the reversed playfield
was really cool but the rest kind of stunk)
Why did I sell my Congo? I miss it
Chris (in NH)
http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/maxbadazz
Lloyd Olson
pinball designers. Both worked together at Williams. I thought Python would
have some interesting perspective. LTG :)
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Lloyd Olson
co-worker and game designer. LTG :)
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Butterflygirl24
> That is why for my question I'd like Python's thoughts on Steve as a
> co-worker and game designer. LTG :)
>
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> Actually, Lloyd, I think Steve was the ONLY designer Python had good
> things to say about.
>
> It was every other designer that sucked.
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No Lloyd, you just wanna sit with Python at the bar and listen to his
"stories" in general!! :-) That is just your way of gettin' him
rollin'!!! Don't be messin' with us, we know your true motive!! ;-)
ROTFLMAO...just thinkin' bout those "stories"!!!!!!! ;-)
Phoebe
CARGPB#38
sk8ball
designers to completely walk away, never to be heard from again.
Lloyd Olson
be opposed to having a blast ! LTG :)
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rudy gulp ptooie
Lawlor that come to mind:
1) Why that pop bumper placement on TZ (creating many left side insta-
drains)?
2) Why is the incredibly hard-to-make 3-way combo shot on Whirlwind
only worth a paltry 250k?
3) Why do the targets on NGG spell out "K-I-C-K" when something golf-
related would have been much better, such as "S-A-V-E". A "sand save"
is a golf term, while "kick" has nothing to do with golf. A minor
nitpik, I know.
Ok, one bonus question for SR: Why that shape slings on STTNG
(creating a trampoline effect for insta-outlane-drains)? Very
frustrating indeed. Otherwise, a near-flawless game, but this is a
major negative.
Ted
kirb
> Ok, one bonus question for SR: Why that shape slings on STTNG
> (creating a trampoline effect for insta-outlane-drains)? Very
> frustrating indeed. Otherwise, a near-flawless game, but this is a
> major negative.
Have you looked under the PF? The cannons have a lot to do with that
question.
Kirb
Steve
> On Dec 6, 11:03 pm, pinball_tom <tallman2isb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My fav pin is BSD.So there are no questions.I thought i would throw
> > this question out there to you guys an gals.So what would you ask them
> > if you could an what would you change if you could?www.pinballcountry.com
>
> the "Escape" shot on 24.(Don't say the shooter lane switch, that's
> lame.) My sense is that SR had nothing to do with it since: 1 - the
> game was finished without him, and, 2 - only a friggin moron would
> design a shot without a switch to detect it. :)
> MattyB
There was an overhead switch that was made whenever the ball rolled
through into the shooter lane in the original; design. I would call
it ignorant cost reduction. I wasn't at Stern when they decided to
take the switch out. It is regrettable.
Thanks,
Steve
Steve
This is one of my favorite questions. The answer is of course "Yes".
Kenbo
Don't really have a favorite designer, but I do have a least favorite.
Lawlor.
To him I would ask "Regarding TZ, WTF were you thinking?"
Steve
> Actually, Lloyd, I thinkStevewas the ONLY designer Python had good
> things to say about.
>
> It was every other designer that sucked.
>
>
> On Dec 6, 8:20 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
>
> > Python. In your own words. What do you think ofSteveRitchie? LTG :)
You are right, Bryan, although he had good things to say about Eugene
Jarvis also. His interview was so off the wall that no one should
take it seriously. He spoke badly of my brother Mark and Ken Fedesna,
two people who saved his ass from the axe SO MANY TIMES!! Python led
a charmed life that allowed him to exist and get paid for doing the
least amount of work of anyone on any team. Some where in that abused
body of his was a good heart. I don't know if it is still there today
though.
My friends from Williams all shake their heads and wonder why he said
these terrible things about virtually everyone but Eugene and I. None
of us understand it.
He hurt a lot of people with his Topcast interview, but he has to live
what he said and did now. I don't feel very good about his
compliments.
Steve
Steve
> On Dec 7, 1:07 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > co-worker and game designer. LTG :)
>
> > "Bryan Kelly" <bskel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >news:f6a76d41-c036-4787...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> > things to say about.
>
> > It was every other designer that sucked.
>
> > Bryan (CARGPB 14)http://usergallery.myhomegameroom.com/gallery/bspins
>
> > On Dec 6, 8:20 pm, "Lloyd Olson" <l...@ssbilliards.com> wrote:
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No Lloyd, you just wanna sit with Python at the bar and listen to his
> "stories" in general!! :-) That is just your way of gettin' him
> rollin'!!! Don't be messin' with us, we know your true motive!! ;-)
> ROTFLMAO...just thinkin' bout those "stories"!!!!!!! ;-)
>
> Phoebe
> CARGPB#38
Totally ridiculous stories, always, but it's kind of amazing that he
really thinks people believe his stories, and I guess some do.
mattyb
Thanks for responding Steve. I figured that was the case. Man, that's
got to frustrating when you have to fight for something as basic as a
switch. Thanks for so many great pins! :) MattyB.
Steve
The shape of the slings was necessary to make room for fasteners and
the hub of the gun/motor assembly. I could have and should have
extended the stainless flipper return frames, and made them taller.
These modified return frames are manufactured by several people, and I
recommend them for a less frustrating time on the game. Even though I
have stated a few times that I think I made a mistake on STTNG's
slingshots/drain problem, some dopey and anal owners think that the
game should not be modified "because that's how the designer meant it
to be!".
Bullsh%t. I would install the extended return frames and enjoy the
game more.
I am not proud of "Buy In" either, but it was one of those things that
"all games must have" for awhile at Williams. It did increase
earnings for awhile.
Steve
chuck
> On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:03:17 -0800 (PST), pinball_tom
>
> >My fav pin is BSD.So there are no questions.I thought i would throw
> >this question out there to you guys an gals.So what would you ask them
> >if you could an what would you change if you could?
> >www.pinballcountry.com
>
> Don't really have a favorite designer, but I do have a least favorite.
>
> Lawlor.
>
> To him I would ask "Regarding TZ, WTF were you thinking?"
I actually love that pin ;-)
chuck
Along the same lines, would you like to jam (dueling guitars
style)? ;-)
kirb
Nothing dirt related in the garage yet, but the stable got larger by 2
this year...
'09 Buell 1125cr (massive HD rebates)
'00 Excelsior Henderson Super X (new in box as of 7/09)
'05 Yamaha FJR1300
'99 Buell Cyclone
'48 Indian Chief (in resto)
chuck
> My fav pin is BSD.So there are no questions.I thought i would throw
> this question out there to you guys an gals.So what would you ask them
> if you could an what would you change if you could?www.pinballcountry.com
On a serious note, who was the first designer to come up with the
"fan" type of layout that is used in a lot of stern pins. I'm not sure
if that goes back to wms days or not. A releated question, who came up
with the squared off rubber stops that protect the lane guides in a
fan layout?
ldnayman
That's a tough one...for me it seems like T2 is the first one but who
knows
Sam
Yes! Yes! Right from the horse's mouth. I can play my STTNG (with
extended lanes) without shame now. Thank you!! :)
seymour.shabow
No, no, no, no, and no!!! People will not learn to play better with the
extendalanes on there - seriously played one with them, and the game
never ended.....
Remove the challenge and it removes too much fun..... might as well put
nails in the outlane.
The outlane as released punishes bad shots, like it should. You shoot
crappy vectors, ball drains. Tough..... learn to play better....
I'm with you on the buy in though that's complete garbage. Might as
well play with the glass off.
-scott CARGPB#29
rudy gulp ptooie
Thanks for the thorough and thoughtful reply!
I do have the extended metal return frames on my STTNG and it does
improve things quite a bit. I guess I'm not one of those dopey and/or
anal collectors. Nah...I definitely am...just not in this case. : )
It is a GREAT game! A real "tour de force".
Ted
dcerny
:-(
Les Manley
I still don't understand all the outlane complaining. Before coming
to this group, I played STTNG all the time, got very good at it and
can put up some awesome scores and I never even once thought the right
outlane was setup unfairly. Just practice and play better. Keep the
ball away from there, it really isn't that hard.
Les Manley
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Buy-ins are alright as long as there is a seperate high score list for
them.
seymour.shabow
Yup, that's the way I feel too. See other thread from today about how
hard the games are set up ;) I would probably shorten it if it were
longer from the factory.
I find the LEFT outlane more drainy - if you don't have the shield lit,
forget it.
-scott CARGPB#29
Sam
On mine, if the ball doesn't completely make the delta ramp, it goes
screaming into the right outlane drain. That's with the extended lane
installed. I can handle the other dangers but the delta ramp is not an
easy shot to make with that kind of consequence.
Sam
seymour.shabow
Hmmmm, that's interesting mine doesn't do that. I think I have mine at
about 7 degrees.
My TZ also doesn't have the monster drains everyone complains about off
the pop bumpers.
-scott CARGPB#29
Sam
Mine might be 7.5 - 8 degrees.
Sam
Matt S.
would ask of any designer--what playfield toy would you have used if
given the chance? I am sure a lot of neat features were costed out of
games. I'd like to hear about them, and about other wishes the
designers had.
> These modified return frames are manufactured by several people, and I
> recommend them for a less frustrating time on the game. Even though I
> have stated a few times that I think I made a mistake on STTNG's
> slingshots/drain problem, some dopey and anal owners think that the
> game should not be modified "because that's how the designer meant it
> to be!".
I heard you say that at the Seattle pinball expo a while back...
That's all I needed to hear to get the extended outlanes. Of course, I
haven't gotten around to it yet. This post is a good reminder,
thanks.
Matt S.
> On mine, if the ball doesn't completely make the delta ramp, it goes
> screaming into the right outlane drain.
Ditto, kind of. Mine falls down the ramp, hits something and makes a
beeline for the left drain. It's very consistent.
5voltsr...@gmail.com
> Dear Pat,
> Anymore?
>
> sincerely,
> TSR
I know this really cannot be asked , but here it goes.
Would The Addams Family still have been a hit as a wide body??
gpsdrew
every dumbass question I have asked.
Can't ask for more than that.
Oh except another "Knight"
:)
Drew
kevinb
configuration options to alter the difficulty of the game. For
example, on LOTR, having to make 4 timed ramp combos during Destroy
the Witchking is a bit unrealistically difficult. It would be nice to
be able to set that lower. Even better, I so wish Keith would have
put in an adjustment for Alien Invasion. Locking 4 balls is a
reasonably hard task; 5 is ridiculously hard.
KRB
(LOTR, TSPP, and soon SM and CV)
Jonny O
Wow, I'm listening to the interview and he sounds loaded off his ass.
Steve
Steve
There is no reason to deny others the right to have fun in the manner
they choose, on their own games.
Steve
I'm trying Drew, but there just isn't any place for me to make another
Knight right now. I'd love to be working on that one, and have
accumulated a number of new ideas for the toys and play. And you
don't ask dumbass questions.
Steve
Steve
Steve
Steve
I will thank you for the STTNG design team. There was massive talent
focused on every detail, and everyone who worked on the game was
passionate about making it great.
Steve
The components for the cannons called for bigger slingshots. Look
under your playfield and see why regular sized slingshots would not
have been feasible.
Bonus Question? What do I win, Dude?
Steve
MHS
My wife and I were on a pin drive not too long ago listening to that
interview, and after a while of no one saying anything she looks at me
and says, "Who is this crazy old man?" I almost wrecked from laughing.
seymour.shabow
I've said all along that people can do whatever they want to their own
games, make them easier, make them harder, whatever they want. As long
as they're under no illusions that making something easier makes them a
better player.
Removing something challenging doesn't make it more fun. It certainly
removes an earned sense of accomplishment. I walked away from the next
gen that had the extendolanes in it because the victory was completely
hollow.
Games that have that lane in there - the player will never learn the
proper way to beat it. The machines that go down the right from a weak
delta ramp shot, that's a different issue and truly would be unfair, but
mine doesn't do that (I wonder if the side to side level makes a large
difference there?)
-scott CARGPB#29
CornCob
Thats what I like to hear, ideas are what makes the future and
certainly a follow on from black knight 2k would be seriously cool.
Now if only PLD could be persuaded to continue and to change his
negative thoughts about RGP as we're all in it to play pinball at the
end of the day.
Ping
luvthatapex
>
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I would like to ask the Pinball 2000 designers what ever happened to
the Monster Bash Pinball 2000 machine they designed. I don't think the
concept title was Monster Bash, but it was a Monster themed game.
Would it ever be a possibility in the future? Could you imagine? How
cool is that.....
Frank
gpsdrew
I'd love to be working on that one, and have
> accumulated a number of new ideas for the toys and play.
> Steve
Holy cow I just drooled all over my keyboard!
:)
Drew
kirb
> > Nothing dirt related in the garage yet, but the stable got larger by 2
> > this year...
> > '09 Buell 1125cr (massive HD rebates)
> > '00 Excelsior Henderson Super X (new in box as of 7/09)
> > '05 Yamaha FJR1300
> > '99 Buell Cyclone
> > '48 Indian Chief (in resto)
>
> What a collection! I still hate you
That's the best thing anyone has said to me all week. Thanks.
Kirb
Lloyd Olson
riding them too, not just static museum pieces. Congratulations ! LTG :)
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kirb
> That is an impressive line up of machinery. Not to mention I'd bet you enjoy
> riding them too, not just static museum pieces. Congratulations ! LTG :)
I can't let a motorcycle sit. I don't have a showroom for them, so
they get ridden. This economy really brought out some stellar deals-
Super X's new in box on the cheap and Harley closes down Buell and
gives $5k rebates on any new ones left....
Just like pinball, you get them while you can.
Kirb
Jonny O
> My wife and I were on a pin drive not too long ago listening to that
> interview, and after a while of no one saying anything she looks at me
>
> - Show quoted text -
In my country, pinball plays YOU!
I give credit to the interviewer for maintaining his poise and playing
a good straight man. I would have been strongly tempted to "howard
stern" the guy. "Alright, Python, let's be honest: you're loaded
right? Aren't you concerned that you're embarrasing yourself?"
Probably only works if you have the interviewee cornered in your
studio, though.