STERN!!!!
the grave
who do you think it is?
cody chunn
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jimjim66
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
Captain America or Avengers? Green Hornet? Thor?
Jonny O
What movies are coming out?
Stevedave
falconfixer
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
Handiman. (Obscure "In Living Color" reference)
Dave
Digger
Green Hornet is an old school name, but if i had to guess I would have
to say Avengers, which has the chance for some great toys (if only
Stern would go for a 5k pin with more stuff...Fingers crossed).
Kerry
Nafster
> who do you think it is?
Wonder Women? Megan Fox!
phishrace
joe mamma pinballwizzNO@SPAMgmail.com
JeffS
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
Maybe X-Men??
JeffS
ATL
C David
wonderpuddle
> Green Lantern.
Green Lantern would be awesome. I'd have to start saving up some
cash . . .
matt
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz
mnpinball
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
Nope
raddroxx
> who do you think it is?
I vote for Tron next followed by Transformers
machine.slave
On Oct 22, 8:34 pm, "joe mamma pinballwiz...@SPAMgmail.com"
machine.slave
happen.. Stern said the license is too much money.
Hell, I'd settle for a rebrand even.. convert IM! Put Megatron in
place of Iron Monger.. (but the real Megatron, not that crappy Bay
version)
MartyJ
Judge Dredd maybe??
Bingovit
That would be a license that would really interest me, good call! :-)
--Evert
Joe Jet
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
Rock and Roll pin is next I understand...
EM's forever
Yes, Rolling Stones is the next new release. Not sure what I think of
this yet? Is everyone aware this is the next release? Have not seen
much on RGP about it, although I do not come here much. But yes,
Rolling Stones IS the next pin from Stern.
playedataritoday
even pre-order sight unseen.
I would think it would be a more generic Avengers theme though, since
they could use it first for "Captain America - the first avenger", and
then Thor, and then the full Avengers movie. This might be risky
since there isn't movie material to pull from yet, but maybe they will
get access to movie footage/sound. An Avengers pin, where you can
have alternate translite to correspond to the latest movie would be
great.
JimB
Me too! I didn't know he was making a new pee wee movie, bout time!
MB
+1 for TRON !
This has tons to offer.
Super Heros have been done TO DEATH (and I'm a diehard Avengers fan)
Marc
Todd
Mission Impossible 4?
SaBbRa CaDaBra
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
The next pinball by Stern is whatever Chuck Norris says it is.
Ricker
It will most likely be Tron and it should have an LCD screen. Goodbye
to the DMD.
Les Manley
>
> - Show quoted text -
Maybe Stern could do Go-Bots in a cost saving move. Go-Bots license
has to be dirt cheap... ;)
azpinlawyer
Next is RS, followed by Tron. Rumors abound that the two may be flip-
flopped.
5voltsr...@gmail.com
So Rolling Stones is the music pin..??
Hans
> So Rolling Stones is the music pin..??
Wow...... just wow......
in a bad way.
5voltsr...@gmail.com
I do like the Stones, just had another band in mind.....:(
kbliznick
It better have images of them from the 1950's-1970's instead of images
of them in their 50's- 70's!!
Are they going to leave out Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor and Brian Jones
and Ian Stewart and Nicky Hopkins?
azpinlawyer
Rumor is the music will be from the latest album, not a "Greatest
Hits" kind of tribute. :-(
Lloyd Olson
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>
>> So Rolling Stones is the music pin..??
>
> Wow...... just wow......
> in a bad way.
>
>
What, you don't want a backglass with another POTC character ( Jack
Sparrow's aging father ) and Mick hitting the stage with a walker ?
Hope they use the Voo Doo Lounge pic of Mick rising up out of the stage
floor. LTG :)
kbliznick
> Rumor is the music will be from the latest album, not a "Greatest
> Hits" kind of tribute. :-(
sounds absolutely horrible!! Why would they do that?? Such a
terrible idea.
CEllison
Assuming Stern is walking that fine line of surviving or failing, I
think having a Stones pin is a terrible idea simply because young
adults (the ones Gary so badly wants to generate new blood with) don't
give two craps about the Stones. This pin could very well be his last.
Why oh why would you create a pin about a washed up has been band?
Don;t care if they've been inducted to the RARHOF .... kids and young
adults alike won't relate. Good thing Rick bought rights to
manufacture Williams pins again ... going to be the only game in
town ;-)
Pinballed
Nicky Hopkins? Really? How did you dig that one up? lol
Digger
> Next is RS, followed by Tron. Rumors abound that the two may be flip-
> flopped.
Going back to AZPinlawyer's post, if they are Rolling Stones and Tron,
Tron would make more sense to run next considering the movie is coming
out shortly. If true, then at least I will have a Tron pin to ease
the "new pin" fix while I skip Rolling Stones... I like the Stones but
as a pin theme to get the younger crowd, I think this is off a bit but
much smater people than me are paid to figure the marketing aspects /
pin line ups out for Stern, so if Stones is next I hope it does well
so we see another pin and so on.
Still, fingers crossed for Tron!
Kerry
kbliznick
NIcky Hopkins was their primary pianist for over a decades worth of
albums 1967-1976. The last few Brian Jones albums the entire Mick
Taylor years,(which are by far the best albums the Stones ever put
out) and into Ronnie Wood. Ian Stewart was also still contributing
during those years.
Why they never officially made Nicky a Rolling Stone probably had
something to due with a lifelong illness he had (he only toured with
them for 3 years or so)
FTRMech
I am tired of "Super Hero", TV shows and "Movie" Pins...C'mon Stern,
have an ORIGINAL idea! Did BW have to purchase a license to make
Medieval Madness, Cirqus Voltair or Theatre of Magic? CapCom's Big
Bang Bar? Others? Seems to me Stern could save money and reduce
production cost if only they were a bit more creative and stop buying
other peoples ideas.
goatdan
> Going back to AZPinlawyer's post, if they are Rolling Stones and Tron,
> Tron would make more sense to run next considering the movie is coming
> out shortly.
To be fair, Disney has a very hit / miss type of thing going on with
what they think are going to be big franchises. Prince of Persia was
supposed to be a big franchise for Disney, and it bombed miserably.
Luckily for Stern, they didn't make one right as it was released.
Since Stern usually builds a machine around the time of a second
movie, it would make sense to give Tron a little time at the box
office to see if it will be a hit or not. Also, with how protective
companies are of their films, Tron would have all the images out,
instead of just what is in the trailers.
Having said that, haven't a bunch of you said they'll never work with
Disney again after the fiasco that was POTC?
c2
Count me in the minority but I have no interest in Tron (thought it was
a horrible movie). And The Stones? Good grief. Are they looking to
bookend WoF in the area nursing homes? Who chooses this crap? I have a
healthy respect for the Stones place in history, but they are not
relevant today and the kids/young adults surely won't relate.
However, having said all that, I'm not too torn-up about them doing
either of these pins. Better than seeing them butcher a theme I do care
about.
-Craig
Underspin
playfield with the blue-hued glow of underplayfield LED's. It would
never happen of course because Disney would be so difficult to work
with. That and they'll be busy dumbing down and / or destroying the
Tron: Evolution video game that will hit at the same time.
wesley
> I have herd that stern is doing another superhero pinball next year,
> who do you think it is?
I don't have a guess to add to those already offered, I just hope it's
a fun game, has good toys and is a great machine then I'll play it
even if it's a superhero and/or movie I don' t like. If it's boring,
then forget it no matter the movie or supehero.
kbliznick
> have an ORIGINAL idea! Did BW have to purchase a license to make
> Medieval Madness, Cirqus Voltair or Theatre of Magic? CapCom's Big
> Bang Bar? Others? Seems to me Stern could save money and reduce
> production cost if only they were a bit more creative and stop buying
I think one thing that get's overlooked when the "original theme" idea
is brought up and possibly reducing production costs by not paying for
a license, is that productions costs would mostly likely go up for
Stern to do this. Ever since TMNT or possibly earlier when Stern
wants to put "toys" into the game they do just that... they buy off
the shelf figures, toy cars, models and implement them into the game.
When they don't have a licensed theme they will have to pay someone to
design that toy, pay someone to make the mold for that toy (and
production molds are not cheap starting at $6-8K+ for very small
ones), and pay someone to produce them. Production costs are large
when your orders for molded plastic items are only in the hundreds or
thousands, compared to a toy company make tens to hundreds of
thousands. Then they have to get painted...
Personally I can't stand the action figures as 99% of the time they
don't interact with the gameplay and it looks like some homemade mod,
but some of these games would look barren without them.
It just won't happen. How many original themes has Stern done in this
current companies lifetime?
I can only think of 5 or 6
The first 4 DE games and 2 of the first few Stern games.
Laser War
Secret Service
Time Machine
Torpedo Alley
High Roller Casino
Striker Extreme.
I wouldn't consider any of these to have been hits for the company.
They have and always will make licensed themes.
Lloyd Olson
yeah, they've been gone for more than ten years.
Since licensing costs about $50 a pin, it's the cheapest advertising
possible. $50 extra into each game instead of license, won't make a rats ass
of difference.
I do hope the industry grows and one day we see a non licensed game again.
For right now I think it would be a bad idea.
Remember you know what a pinball machine is, but areas that haven't had
pinball for years have no idea they are even still around. LTG :)
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Lloyd Olson
Of course that person isn't a liar until a pin comes out that has a Disney
license on it.
So we'll have to wait and see. LTG :)
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JimB
Make up with Disney and do a new Haunted House based on the ride.
Classic title. Do an underneath Play-field.
mnpinball
They have a fine relationship with Disney. Tron 2011. Spring DVD
release ;)
mnpinball
goatdan
> > Having said that, haven't a bunch of you said they'll never work with
> > Disney again after the fiasco that was POTC?
>
> They have a fine relationship with Disney. Tron 2011. Spring DVD
> release ;)
I said before that the thing that would talk was $$$$, and in the
corporate world you only don't work with someone as long as it
benefits you not too.
goatdan
> Silly us, we actually believed someone at stern.
>
> Of course that person isn't a liar until a pin comes out that has a Disney
> license on it.
>
> So we'll have to wait and see. LTG :)
To be fair, it might have been something that someone exasperated said
in a fit of "not realizing what money they might be leaving on the
table by refusing to work with them."
Also, Disney owned Marvel before IM came out, so technically the
streak is already broken there.
Robert Andrews
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0837156/
>
> I'm really pulling for this one to happen.
>
> -phish
Was the pun intended ? Or just a Freudian slip ?
Pinball Bob
Lloyd Olson
want to work with Disney.
Either way I think the Disney tie in would lead to lots of great titles to
consider. LTG :)
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mnpinball
Toy Story would be a hit. Now with 3 movies to pull from it's a given.
goatdan
> Toy Story would be a hit. Now with 3 movies to pull from it's a given.
It would have been. At this point, I don't expect a Toy Story 4, and
without any real future prospects I think the time for a Toy Story
game have passed. However, a LOT of the other Pixar properties could
have easily been turned into a machine, and with sequels coming maybe
we'll see that. Cars would be a GREAT theme to get kids to put money
in (that license is practically good to print money). It comes out
next summer I think. Would be a good reskin of a more adult title if
they went that route again, as I'm sure some collectors wouldn't love
it.
Although I think the market is limited, a Disneyland / Disney World
pinball machine would go over huge with a lot of non-pinheads who seem
to have endlessly deep pockets for cool things related to Disney.
Also, all these rumors about Stern doing Thor / Captain America, those
are both sort of Disney properties now too. That whole Marvel thing
is sorta screwed up, so I don't know if you count them (they are
technically now Disney's properties, but would be licensed through
another studio -- although Disney apparently just bought the rights
for the Avengers and Iron Man 3... it's getting confusing!)
mnpinball
> Also, all these rumors about Stern doing Thor / Captain America,
Nope
goatdan
Yes.
Those are Marvel licenses, which are more or less traced back to
Disney in a really convoluted way. I'm not saying anything about what
they are or are not doing. The topic I was discussing was what
licenses Disney could do, and those two are kinda, sorta Disney
licenses thanks to the weird Marvel stuff.
If you'd like, I've actually really followed the Marvel licensing
fiasco and would be happy to explain in an email why one could
consider Thor or Captain America a Disney license.
cody chunn
everyone's heads.
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goatdan <loo...@goatstore.com> wrote:
>...
>Also, all these rumors about Stern doing Thor / Captain America, those
>are both sort of Disney properties now too. That whole Marvel thing
>is sorta screwed up, so I don't know if you count them (they are
>technically now Disney's properties, but would be licensed through
>another studio -- although Disney apparently just bought the rights
>for the Avengers and Iron Man 3... it's getting confusing!)
I was reading about this in the WSJ on my way to Expo. Iron Man, the
movie, was licensed through Paramount. But Disney wanted to get
Paramount out of the loop, so they paid them off (but in a variable
compensation deal). So Stern's Disney-avoidance streak post-POTC is
intact so far.
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mgk
> On Oct 25, 10:18 am, kbliznick <kblizn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On 25 Oct, 10:05, Hans <h...@siegecraft.us> wrote:
>
> > > > So Rolling Stones is the music pin..??
>
> > > Wow...... just wow......
> > > in a bad way.
>
> > It better have images of them from the 1950's-1970's instead of images
> > of them in their 50's- 70's!!
> > Are they going to leave out Bill Wyman and Mick Taylor and Brian Jones
> > and Ian Stewart and Nicky Hopkins?
>
> Hits" kind of tribute. :-(
confirm/deny ?
goatdan
> Doesn't matter. He seems to have an inside line and loves to hold it over
> everyone's heads.
I know, I just found it interesting that he was trying to hold it over
my head so much that he basically replied that Thor / Captain America
aren't Disney licenses. Which, Marvel now = Disney, so actually, I
can hold that over his head ;)
goatdan
> I was reading about this in the WSJ on my way to Expo. Iron Man, the
> movie, was licensed through Paramount. But Disney wanted to get
> Paramount out of the loop, so they paid them off (but in a variable
> compensation deal). So Stern's Disney-avoidance streak post-POTC is
> intact so far.
Yes. Technically, how it works is that Marvel licensed a lot of
properties to studios to develop movies with, and while Disney
purchased Marvel, those licenses remain in tact. The question comes
in, however, that while Paramount can license their Iron Man 2 rights
to certain additional things (toys, for instance), the question comes
in as to exactly what their ability to license grants them. Those
agreements are pretty much set -- for instance, it could be relatively
easily concluded that Paramount could not license their Iron Man 2
character and likeness to DC Comics to do an Iron Man 2 comic series
out of. Those agreements are limiting in many ways, so they very well
may have still had to get Disney's okay to license the movie
characters to Stern for Iron Man pinball.
The whole agreement / ownership process has been interesting so far to
say the least, because Marvel did so much licensing before Disney got
there, and it is something that will take years to untangle. For
instance, Universal has the rights to the theme park rights for the
Marvel characters either East of the Mississippi or within 300 miles
of Orlando, depending on which report is right (and even Disney and
Universal may not be certain). However, Universal gave up the rights
to having the Marvel characters in Universal Hollywood just last year
I believe, so there is a very likely scenario where you could see
Spider-Man, Iron Man and other Marvel characters in the Disneyland
Resort on one coast and in Universal Parks on the other.
Disney did just close a deal with Paramount to purchase the Iron Man 3
and Avengers rights back from Paramount (so that they can make the
movies themselves) for I think it was $160 million. Basically,
Paramount got the profit they would have made off the movies without
actually having to make the movies, and Disney in return will be able
to market these movies, toys, and all that other fun stuff in the
exact way they want to. This still leaves both Thor and Captain
America as Paramount releases, although the same convoluted licensing
stuff applies to them. I wouldn't be surprised that if to license the
name for the pinball machines (Iron Man and any of these others, if
they were to get done) they would need both a Paramount, as well as
Marvel (Disney) okay.
cody chunn
as most of the previous ones. They really haven't done justice to most of
these great characters and stories.
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mnpinball
To clarify, Stern is not doing Thor or CA.
That's what I meant. Sometimes it hard to type a marathon post on a
cell phone.
I usually post short and sweet.
mnpinball
Your opinion Cody, what do you want to know. Just ask.
That's what I do, ask questions and observe. I did a lot of observing
at expo and seen some interesting things and put 2 and 2 together and
later confirmed my instincts . Lot's of things going on in the pinball
community in 2011-2012.
I'm not hard to communicate with and really like talking pinball.
cody chunn
that provide little actual information yet imply copious amounts of
innuendo. If you have solid info and like to share, post it. Posting "nope"
or "yep" or "wait and see" and that kind of stuff is annoying. If you know,
post it. Saying you know something and then not telling is not cool.
Yes, IMO.
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goatdan
Except you should do everyone a favor and not hold it over people. I
don't actually care. My point wasn't if they were or were not doing
it -- in fact, theme doesn't really excite me anyway, games do.
I would suggest though that if you do know something, to stop
continually posting about it like, "I know something you don't know,
nyah nyah!" It's quite juvenile.
goatdan
> Oh, lordy. I just hope the future films don't suffer the same horrible fate
> as most of the previous ones. They really haven't done justice to most of
> these great characters and stories.
Actually, I think that once Disney gets their hands fully on the
licenses, that for the most part we will see very true to the comic
versions of the character films. Disney bought Marvel ultimately
because they wanted to have strong characters that would attract the
young male demographic, and if they allow those characters to get
watered down or looked upon badly, it hurts their brand MUCH more than
when it was just Marvel licensing out a film that both Marvel and the
production company could point fingers at each other for failings.
Disney now can only point their fingers at themselves.
sinistar
POTC the next MM!
mnpinball
> Whatever. You seem to relish posting cryptic one word or one sentence posts
> that provide little actual information yet imply copious amounts of
> innuendo. If you have solid info and like to share, post it. Posting "nope"
> or "yep" or "wait and see" and that kind of stuff is annoying. If you know,
> post it. Saying you know something and then not telling is not cool.
>
> Yes, IMO.
>
> --
> -cody
> --
>
You may ask yourself......Stern is NOT making a Talking Heads pinball.
PS: that's some Cody humor. ;-)
Jason
>
> - Show quoted text -
So was there any real info in this thread?
I keep hearing about the Stones pinball next from Stern... is it just
rumor? crazy rumor? solid rumor? utter nonsense?
mnpinball
Solid and it's not designed by Borg. Guest designer.