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Dave the Clueless

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Jul 17, 2012, 12:56:56 PM7/17/12
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Or for the bigot: Twa

What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager? How should it be
enforced? Obviously the owner/manager has invested money and time and
assumed a great deal of risk and responsibility. Since the guy rolling the
dough deserves a federally mandated minimum, shouldn't the owner?

Should people be forced to buy pizzas from her at a price that will ensure
her minimum wage? If she elects to work 90 hours a week (a not uncommon
thing for owners of small pizza shops) should her minimum wage include
overtime? It would hardly be fair for her to collect the same gross salary
as her 40-hour-a-week counterpart.

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When the truth hurts, lie. - Obama 2012

Clave

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Jul 17, 2012, 1:30:17 PM7/17/12
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"Dave the Clueless" <a98...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> Or for the bigot: Twa
>
> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager?

If they can't afford to pay themselves a living salary, they don't deserve
to be in business -- they can go work for a *successful* business where they
have minimum wage protection.

Let's see if you can come up with an even stupider question.

Jim



BillB

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Jul 17, 2012, 1:37:41 PM7/17/12
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On 7/17/2012 9:56 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:

> Or for the bigot: Twa

If the first part was called Part Uno, and the second part was called
Part Due, why would you call the third part Part Trois? This shows you
have no concept of continuity, a sign of low IQ.

> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager?

There isn't one.

Don't they teach this stuff in elementary school in the US?

Clave

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"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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Davey don't hold no truck with that fancy-boi book-larnin. Thass just
propergandin for pointy-headed socialist fascist libbruls.

Jim



johnny_t

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:23:24 PM7/17/12
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On 7/17/12 9:56 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:

> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager? How should it be
> enforced?

The minimum wage is whatever the owner is willing to accept, and it is
enforced by their own decision. Nobody is forcing them to stay open,
sell the same product, or use the same business plan...

As was pointed out earlier in the examples. The small business owner is
going to look at the books in meta snapshots, usually monthly. The most
important thing is "Am I making money" most of the time.

Then there will be questions about expenses and what can be done to
control them, as they will have a direct effect on the "pay" of the
owner. Every dollar saved is a dollar earned.

Then there will be a look at price changes. Every dollar earned is a
direct effect on the pay. The problem with this is price elasticity,
and most owners are more scared than sophisticated about this.

Then there are investments trying to improve the number of covers in an
attempt to improve the productivity of the store and the employees.
Price sales, specials, advertising etc... This is often not tried by
small stores except in hyper competitive environments, because it often
doesn't fall down to the bottom line.

One thing that does tend to work, and it is more long term and that is
standards. This tends to maximize productivity of the store.

Once the store is "maximized" it is tough to find more productivity in
the store. It is what it is.

In this environment increasing costs tends to simply come out of the
wages of the small owner. Done enough, and the business is no longer
worth running.

It doesn't matter what the cost ratio of the pizza's is. Though for
some reason, people get hung up on the thought experiment.

ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:32:34 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 1:23 pm, johnny_t <nobod...@home.com> wrote:

> Then there will be a look at price changes.  Every dollar earned is a
> direct effect on the pay.  The problem with this is price elasticity,
> and most owners are more scared than sophisticated about this.

I know you think you sound erudite talking about "price elasticity",
but all you are doing is showing your ignorance. There are two price
elasticities -- price elasticity of demand and price elasticity of
supply. Since one is almost always talking about price elasticity,
the terms used by people who actually know something about economics
are "elasticity of demand" and "elasticity of supply".

I suggest you go post in a newsgroup where no one knows anything about
economics. You are way out of your depth on RGP.


William "The Life" Coleman (ramashiva)

johnny_t

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:40:01 PM7/17/12
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Dude, I know that you understand the basic communication concept of
context.

Which do you think I am referring too? I guess that you're having too
difficult of a time working that out but try it. Maybe you'll educate
yourself.

Or should I define price elasticity in every 3 sentence paragraph, so
they obtuse and trolling such as yourself will feel comfortable. I
probably won't so don't hold your breath. If you have a question ask.
If you get it, good. If you're trolling for trolling sake, just stop,
it makes you look stupid.


ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 4:55:07 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 1:40 pm, johnny_t <nobod...@home.com> wrote:

> Dude, I know that you understand the basic communication concept of
> context.

> Which do you think I am referring too? I guess that you're having too
> difficult of a time working that out but try it.  Maybe you'll educate
> yourself.

> Or should I define price elasticity in every 3 sentence paragraph, so
> they obtuse and trolling such as yourself will feel comfortable.  I
> probably won't so don't hold your breath.  If you have a question ask.
> If you get it, good.  If you're trolling for trolling sake, just stop,
> it makes you look stupid.

No, you should use the term "elasticity of demand", which is the term
used by all economists.

halfpastdead

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Jul 17, 2012, 7:11:32 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17 2012 11:56 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:

> Or for the bigot: Twa
>
> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager? How should it be
> enforced? Obviously the owner/manager has invested money and time and
> assumed a great deal of risk and responsibility. Since the guy rolling the
> dough deserves a federally mandated minimum, shouldn't the owner?

FUCK NO.. if they hire right, market right, manage right , their income is
unlimited..if they spend too much time on RGP obsessing over a few of the
regular posters and stalking them like Glenn Close in An Affair to
Remember... and let the place go down the tubes , they go broke

its the american way
>
> Should people be forced to buy pizzas from her at a price that will ensure
> her minimum wage? If she elects to work 90 hours a week (a not uncommon
> thing for owners of small pizza shops) should her minimum wage include
> overtime? It would hardly be fair for her to collect the same gross salary
> as her 40-hour-a-week counterpart.
>
> -------
> When the truth hurts, lie. - Obama 2012


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halfpastdead

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Jul 17, 2012, 7:14:29 PM7/17/12
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this from a guy who called on the end in triple draw with a fucking
straight, not knowing what hand he had

priceless.. ignorance knows no bounds


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with Carbon Poker.


ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 8:17:01 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 4:14 pm, "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

> this from a guy who called on the end in triple draw with a fucking
> straight, not knowing what hand he had

> priceless.. ignorance knows no bounds

Wow. You just won't let this go, will you. I was playing in an eight-
game tournament where I didn't even know five of the games. The game
was changing every five minutes, and I hadn't even figured out how to
tell what game we were playing yet. I made a wheel, which I thought
was the nut low hand.

And it was a $5 home game. Big fucking deal.

You are really getting pathetic Doggy. You are accusing me of
welching for cancelling my prop bet with Larry, when everyone else who
posted says it is not a welch.

You continue to portray me as broke, when I could buy and sell you
with pocket change.

I just spent $650 on upgrades to my Pontiac G6 GT -- replacement ECM
performance optimized for 91 octane, drilled and slotted rotors, and
ceramic brake pads. That's just for the parts.

I also lost $700 playing cash games at the WSOP. I have also spent at
least $3000 at Cheetahs the last few weeks. I have a $2500 check on
the way from Carbon Poker.

But yeah, Doggy, I am broke.

You are an idiot.

halfpastdead

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Jul 17, 2012, 9:16:36 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17 2012 7:17 PM, ramashiva wrote:

> On Jul 17, 4:14�pm, "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> > this from a guy who called on the end in triple draw with a fucking
> > straight, not knowing what hand he had
>
> > priceless.. ignorance knows no bounds
>
> Wow. You just won't let this go, will you. I was playing in an eight-
> game tournament where I didn't even know five of the games. The game
> was changing every five minutes, and I hadn't even figured out how to
> tell what game we were playing yet. I made a wheel, which I thought
> was the nut low hand.

lie number 1 it was the only "draw" game , so you were NOT confused..
there was no other game to confuse it with

lie number 2 . you made a 7 high straight .. not a wheel
>
> And it was a $5 home game. Big fucking deal.
>
> You are really getting pathetic Doggy. You are accusing me of
> welching for cancelling my prop bet with Larry, when everyone else who
> posted says it is not a welch.
>
> You continue to portray me as broke, when I could buy and sell you
> with pocket change.
>
> I just spent $650 on upgrades to my Pontiac G6 GT -- replacement ECM
> performance optimized for 91 octane, drilled and slotted rotors, and
> ceramic brake pads. That's just for the parts.
>
> I also lost $700 playing cash games at the WSOP. I have also spent at
> least $3000 at Cheetahs the last few weeks. I have a $2500 check on
> the way from Carbon Poker.
>
> But yeah, Doggy, I am broke.
>
> You are an idiot.
>
> William "The Life" Coleman �(ramashiva)

thats about 2 weeks pay for me in my new job .. you couldnt buy a fuckin
ham sandwich


Third of all, under UIGEA, transferring funds to and from any internet
gambling venue is illegal if any US financial institution is involved
in the transfer.

As has been pointed out in another thread, Visa cards seem to work
with Carbon Poker.


Jason Pawloski

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Jul 17, 2012, 10:15:22 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17 2012 6:17 PM, ramashiva wrote:

> On Jul 17, 4:14�pm, "halfpastdead" <aa94...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
>
> > this from a guy who called on the end in triple draw with a fucking
> > straight, not knowing what hand he had
>
> > priceless.. ignorance knows no bounds
>
> Wow. You just won't let this go, will you. I was playing in an eight-
> game tournament where I didn't even know five of the games. The game
> was changing every five minutes, and I hadn't even figured out how to
> tell what game we were playing yet. I made a wheel, which I thought
> was the nut low hand.

HEY DUMBASS IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD THE NUTS WHY DID YOU SMOOTH CALL RATHER
THAN RAISE ME? LYING JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A LIAR MR. CONVICTED
CRIMINAL SEX OFFENDER SHIT SACK sorry caps

--
RGP's Stupidest Poster by popular vote - 3/22/09 to 6/13/10

Jerry "The Savant" Sturdivant - making up a position for reality since
1926.

Jason Pawloski

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Jul 17, 2012, 10:13:54 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17 2012 5:14 PM, halfpastdead wrote:

> On Jul 17 2012 3:32 PM, ramashiva wrote:
>
> > On Jul 17, 1:23�pm, johnny_t <nobod...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Then there will be a look at price changes. �Every dollar earned is a
> > > direct effect on the pay. �The problem with this is price elasticity,
> > > and most owners are more scared than sophisticated about this.
> >
> > I know you think you sound erudite talking about "price elasticity",
> > but all you are doing is showing your ignorance. There are two price
> > elasticities -- price elasticity of demand and price elasticity of
> > supply. Since one is almost always talking about price elasticity,
> > the terms used by people who actually know something about economics
> > are "elasticity of demand" and "elasticity of supply".
> >
> > I suggest you go post in a newsgroup where no one knows anything about
> > economics. You are way out of your depth on RGP.
> >
> >
> > William "The Life" Coleman (ramashiva)
>
> this from a guy who called on the end in triple draw with a fucking
> straight, not knowing what hand he had
>
> priceless.. ignorance knows no bounds

lol he had another one in the tournament too, but this is pretty fucking
funny

PokerStars Game #32178265129: Tournament #190892674, $5.00+$0.50 USD
8-Game (Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit) - Level IX (60/120) - 2009/08/28
22:51:28 ET
Table '190892674 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ramashiva (3812 in chips)
Seat 3: Grant1525 (3595 in chips)
Seat 4: jpawloski (4782 in chips)
Seat 5: FunkyRed (1843 in chips)
jpawloski: posts small blind 30
FunkyRed: posts big blind 60
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to jpawloski [5s 8c 2c 8s 3s]
ramashiva: raises 60 to 120
Grant1525: folds
jpawloski: calls 90
FunkyRed: folds
*** FIRST DRAW ***
jpawloski: discards 1 card [8c]
Dealt to jpawloski [5s 2c 8s 3s] [Jd]
ramashiva: discards 1 card
jpawloski: checks
ramashiva: checks
*** SECOND DRAW ***
jpawloski: discards 1 card [Jd]
Dealt to jpawloski [5s 2c 8s 3s] [Kc]
ramashiva: discards 2 cards
jpawloski: checks
ramashiva: checks
*** THIRD DRAW ***
jpawloski: discards 1 card [Kc]
Dealt to jpawloski [5s 2c 8s 3s] [8h]
ramashiva: discards 2 cards
jpawloski: bets 120
ramashiva: calls 120
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jpawloski: shows [5s 8h 2c 8s 3s] (Lo: a pair of Eights)
ramashiva: mucks hand
jpawloski collected 540 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 540 | Rake 0
Seat 1: ramashiva mucked [4h 6d 5h 3c 2s]
Seat 3: Grant1525 (button) folded before the Draw (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jpawloski (small blind) showed [5s 8h 2c 8s 3s] and won (540) with
Lo: a pair of Eights
Seat 5: FunkyRed (big blind) folded before the Draw

dgystl [observer]: wait the smartest guy in the world just called on the
end and couldnt beat 88 ?

--

ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:11:45 PM7/17/12
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So I fucked up in a $5 home game playing games I had never played
before. What exactly do you think that proves???

Again, this was a situation where I didn't realize that straights were
not low hands. Notice the hand history shows I had a six high
straight.

Clave

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:23:42 PM7/17/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bullshit -- if you thought your straight was low, why did you muck to a pair
of eights?

Jim



Jason Pawloski

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:21:52 PM7/17/12
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Omigod! OMIGOD! I told you to leave me alone! OMIGOD! I'm gonna ratfuck
now! Yes ratfuck you!! Omigod I told you to leave me alone and you
wouldn't, omigod I'm going to ratfuck you! Hopefully before you rape
another underage girl.

ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:29:43 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 8:23 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:06a0e54b-ef0a-4b17...@la19g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

> > Again, this was a situation where I didn't realize that straights were
> > not low hands.  Notice the hand history shows I had a six high
> > straight.

> Bullshit -- if you thought your straight was low, why did you muck to a pair
> of eights?

Asshole, learn to read a hand history. On the end, Jason bet and I
called. There was a showdown. My hand was automatically mucked
because my straight loses to a pair of eights.

Now you are going to question what I say about a poker hand??? Is
there any limit to your arrogance?

Clave

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Clave

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:42:16 PM7/17/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Fine, I'll take a little red-ass for not knowing that "showdown" where you
play means an auto-muck for a losing hand (even though I've never heard of
such). Still sounds like bullshit to me -- suppose you WANTED to show?

Either way, kinda pales in comparison to you playing a game you don't know
the rules of.

LOL

Jim



Beldin the Sorcerer

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:53:51 PM7/17/12
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halfpastdead wrote:
> On Jul 17 2012 11:56 AM, Dave the Clueless wrote:
>
>> Or for the bigot: Twa
>>
>> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager? How should it
>> be enforced? Obviously the owner/manager has invested money and time
>> and assumed a great deal of risk and responsibility. Since the guy
>> rolling the dough deserves a federally mandated minimum, shouldn't
>> the owner?
>
> FUCK NO.. if they hire right, market right, manage right , their
> income is unlimited..if they spend too much time on RGP obsessing
> over a few of the regular posters and stalking them like Glenn Close
> in An Affair to Remember..

Fatal Attraction, Doggie
.)


ramashiva

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Jul 17, 2012, 11:54:10 PM7/17/12
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On Jul 17, 8:42 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b70d424f-2353-40aa...@g4g2000pbn.googlegroups.com...

> > Asshole, learn to read a hand history.  On the end, Jason bet and I
> > called.  There was a showdown.  My hand was automatically mucked
> > because my straight loses to a pair of eights.

> > Now you are going to question what I say about a poker hand???  Is
> > there any limit to your arrogance?

> Fine, I'll take a little red-ass for not knowing that "showdown" where you
> play means an auto-muck for a losing hand (even though I've never heard of
> such).  Still sounds like bullshit to me -- suppose you WANTED to show?

I NEVER show my cards unless forced to do so. I always have automuck
checked on every poker room I play. Showing your cards voluntarily is
strictly a novice move.

> Either way, kinda pales in comparison to you playing a game you don't know
> the rules of.

Of course, you don't know the whole story, as usual. Mark organized a
$5 home game called "Kill Bill". It featured eight games, five of
which I had never played before.

If I hadn't played, I would have taken endless ribbing for not having
enough gamble to play in a $5 home game. I stlll finished ahead of a
lot of people, and Doggy didn't even have the balls to play, IIRC.

Clave

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:21:55 AM7/18/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 17, 8:42 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

<...>

>> Either way, kinda pales in comparison to you playing a game you don't
>> know
>> the rules of.
>
> Of course, you don't know the whole story, as usual. Mark organized a
> $5 home game called "Kill Bill". It featured eight games, five of
> which I had never played before...

Still -- a loball game it's either straights count high or they don't.
That's a pretty important difference, and easily clarified with a single
question.

Unless you're an ego-bound loudmouth who can't bear to be seen as not
knowing everything about everything, I guess.

LOL

Jim



Beldin the Sorcerer

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:33:01 AM7/18/12
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Clave wrote:
> "Dave the Clueless" <a98...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> news:o3igd9x...@news.ezprovider.com...
>> Or for the bigot: Twa
>>
>> What should the minimum wage be for the owner/manager?
>
> If they can't afford to pay themselves a living salary, they don't
> deserve to be in business -- they can go work for a *successful*
> business where they have minimum wage protection.

Jimbo, stop being an imbecile.
You HATE big businesses. The little guy with a dream is your fucking HERO.

They GENERALLY have to struggle and bleed to stay afloat while they get
started. The fail rate for restaurants in general is above average, and the
average fail rate for new businesses used to be 80% over 5 years

Min wage is not intended to support someone. It's intended to reflect what
they are worth while learning, and if they actually learn, they get a raise.


ramashiva

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:39:41 AM7/18/12
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On Jul 17, 9:21 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> Still -- a loball game it's either straights count high or they don't.
> That's a pretty important difference, and easily clarified with a single
> question.

> Unless you're an ego-bound loudmouth who can't bear to be seen as not
> knowing everything about everything, I guess.

Asshole, the game was changing every five minutes, and I hadn't even
figured out how to tell what game we were playing when the first
incident occurred. And I didn't know the rules for triple draw
lowball. I had never played the game, and "lowball" suggests that
straights and flushes can be low hands.

You don't know anything about poker, so STFD and STFU.

Clave

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Jul 18, 2012, 12:46:16 AM7/18/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>

> ...and "lowball" suggests that straights and flushes can be
> low hands.

Funny how even I've played enough loball games to not assume that.

Jim



ramashiva

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Jul 18, 2012, 1:08:30 AM7/18/12
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On Jul 17, 9:46 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:55a8d50c-e5a1-43b3...@tu6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

> > ...and "lowball" suggests that straights and flushes can be
> > low hands.

> Funny how even I've played enough loball games to not assume that.

I had never played even one hand of any kind of lowball draw before
that $5 home game. I had a vague conception of the rules of straight
lowball, but nothing else.

If you ever get the balls to play limit or no limit holdem at any
Seattle cardroom, please send me an engraved invitation.

Assholes like Doggy think that knowing a lot of different games means
you are a poker expert.

I know three games --

Limit Holdem at which I am an expert.

NL Holdem at which I am a journeyman.

Seven card stud, which I know enough about to hold my own in games up
to $5/$10. I forced myself to learn the game to this level by playing
in $5/$10 games at the MGM poker room, because the weekly Stardust
freeroll, at which I made a killing for years, was half holdem and
half stud.

Most of the stud players at the Stardust knew nothing about holdem,
and most of the holdem players knew nothing about stud. People like
me who were competent at both games had a huge advantage, which is why
I was a final table regular for many years, and why I averaged $1000/
month in that tournament for years. It was usually a $2500 freeroll,
sometimes a $5000 freeroll, and it required a minimum of 15 hours of
play per week to qualify. Sometimes there were as few as 40 players,
seldom more than 100 players. They were at my mercy.

Clave

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Jul 18, 2012, 2:13:23 AM7/18/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 17, 9:46 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:
>
>> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:55a8d50c-e5a1-43b3...@tu6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > ...and "lowball" suggests that straights and flushes can be
>> > low hands.
>
>> Funny how even I've played enough loball games to not assume that.
>
> I had never played even one hand of any kind of lowball draw before
> that $5 home game. I had a vague conception of the rules of straight
> lowball, but nothing else.

Poor flower.


> If you ever get the balls to play limit or no limit holdem at any
> Seattle cardroom, please send me an engraved invitation.

I've been playing in Seattle area cardrooms for years. You don't know that
because a) you don't pay attention, b) I don't brag about my wins or whine
like a bitch about my losses, or c) unlike certain braying asses I could
name, I don't pretend to be an expert on any of the games.

But I *do* know that not knowing whether a loball game is straights-high or
not is a pretty fucking stupid mistake.

Jim



ramashiva

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Jul 18, 2012, 2:54:11 AM7/18/12
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On Jul 17, 11:13 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:c88e4f12-4fa6-41a6...@c4g2000pba.googlegroups.com...

> > On Jul 17, 9:46 pm, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> >> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:55a8d50c-e5a1-43b3...@tu6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

> >> > ...and "lowball" suggests that straights and flushes can be
> >> > low hands.

> >> Funny how even I've played enough loball games to not assume that.

> > I had never played even one hand of any kind of lowball draw before
> > that $5 home game.  I had a vague conception of the rules of straight
> > lowball, but nothing else.

> Poor flower.

> > If you ever get the balls to play limit or no limit holdem at any
> > Seattle cardroom, please send me an engraved invitation.

> I've been playing in Seattle area cardrooms for years.  You don't know that
> because a) you don't pay attention, b) I don't brag about my wins or whine
> like a bitch about my losses, or c) unlike certain braying asses I could
> name, I don't pretend to be an expert on any of the games.

I am not pretending asshole, I AM an expert on limit holdem. Both
Russ Georgiev and Howard Treesong (Eric Liebeler) have so stated, and
both backed me in limit holdem tournaments at the 2005 WSOP.

So what cardrooms do you play, what games, what limits? What days and
times do you usually play? If you give me the answers, I will jump in
the Ramamobile and head for Seattle. Of course, you are such a
fucking coward that if I walked in the card room and asked --

Is there someone here who posts on RGP as Clave?

You would not have the balls to identify yourself.

> But I *do* know that not knowing whether a loball game is straights-high or
> not is a pretty fucking stupid mistake.

It's not a mistake, asshole. I didn't even know what games would be
played until the tournament started, and I didn't even know the rules
of triple draw lowball.

Clave

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Jul 18, 2012, 3:08:23 AM7/18/12
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"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<...>

>> I've been playing in Seattle area cardrooms for years. You don't know
>> that
>> because a) you don't pay attention, b) I don't brag about my wins or
>> whine
>> like a bitch about my losses, or c) unlike certain braying asses I could
>> name, I don't pretend to be an expert on any of the games.
>
> I am not pretending asshole, I AM an expert on limit holdem.

Sure you are, Peanut. I so totally belive you. And it matters to me,
really it does. Probably no one in all of Pugetopolis is as much of an
expert on No-Fold-Em Hold-Em as you.

<...snip the usual limp dick-wagging...>


>> But I *do* know that not knowing whether a loball game is
>> straights-high or not is a pretty fucking stupid mistake.
>
> It's not a mistake, asshole...

OK, heh -- you *meant* to donk off your money.

I believe that.

Jim



ramashiva

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Jul 18, 2012, 4:10:57 AM7/18/12
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On Jul 18, 12:08 am, "Clave" <clav...@the.monastery.com> wrote:

> "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0ffa76c4-04a2-4971...@t1g2000pbl.googlegroups.com...

> >> I've been playing in Seattle area cardrooms for years.  You don't know
> >> that because a) you don't pay attention, b) I don't brag about my wins or
> >> whine like a bitch about my losses, or c) unlike certain braying asses I could
> >> name, I don't pretend to be an expert on any of the games.

> > I am not pretending asshole, I AM an expert on limit holdem.

> Sure you are, Peanut.  I so totally belive you.  And it matters to me,
> really it does.  Probably no one in all of Pugetopolis is as much of an
> expert on No-Fold-Em Hold-Em as you.

> <...snip the usual limp dick-wagging...>

Snip the questions about where, when, and what you play. Too cowardly
to even answer the questions, I see.

> >> But I *do* know that not knowing whether a loball game is
> >> straights-high or not is a pretty fucking stupid mistake.

> > It's not a mistake, asshole...

> OK, heh -- you *meant* to donk off your money.

It was a $5 homegame, numbnuts. It was a social event, not a serious
tournament.

bratt

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Jul 18, 2012, 8:19:03 AM7/18/12
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> ..)

LOL I wouldn't have seen this except you responded Beldin. How funny
that the only reason a legitimate business could fail is because someone
is spending too much time online. Liberal mind thinking at its best. To
even suggest that a business has unlimited potential is silly.


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