OT: Advertisers deserting Fox News' Glenn Beck
ramashiva
number one on the list of most read articles.
Considering that Rupert Murdoch owns both MarketWatch and Fox News,
this is quite remarkable.
I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
silence people, whether done by the left or the right. But in this
case, I think it is justified, because Beck is clearly a foaming at
the mouth, batshit insane hatemonger.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14
Aug 14, 2009, 8:32 a.m. EST
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- In what is shaping up to be one of the more
effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the
"Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments
that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated
hatred for white people."
Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show
are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway ; Procter &
Gamble ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance , according to the
companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign
against the program.
Beck, who made the remarks during another Fox News program late last
month, is among the network's biggest draws, pulling in an average of
about 2 million viewers. (Fox News is a unit of News Corp. , which
also owns MarketWatch, the publisher of this report.)
Geico didn't respond to a request for comment but sent Color of Change
an email saying it had "instructed its ad-buying service to
redistribute its inventory of rotational spots on [Fox] to their other
network programs, exclusive of the Glenn Beck program."
Privately held Sargento told its media buyer not to put any of its ads
in Beck's show, said a spokeswoman.
"We market our products to people regardless of their political
affiliations," she said. "Yet we do not want to be associated with
hateful speech used by either liberal or conservative television
hosts."
Because of the way ad time is often bought on cable -- in bulk and
with an eye toward demographics and so-called day parts -- some of the
targeted companies' ads may well have ended up on the program by
mistake and in violation of their own standards. If so, it was an
error that some advertisers vowed not to repeat.
"We place advertising on a variety of programming with the goal of
reaching a broad range of insurance consumers who might be interested
in our products," said a spokeswoman for Progressive. "We also seek to
avoid advertising on programming that our customers or potential
customers may find extremely offensive."
The Glenn Beck show wasn't "targeted," she added, and "any advertising
that may have appeared on the show was a result of an error."
P&G didn't respond to a request for comment, but one news report
quoted a spokesperson as saying that "at times our ads are run by
mistake on shows that they were not meant to" and that the company
would "try to be more careful in the future."
Color of Change is using a 600,000-member electronic mailing list to
urge people to sign a petition that is then forwarded to Beck's
sponsors. The group was founded in the wake of the Hurricane Katrina
disaster to promote "racial progress," said James Rucker, its
executive director, adding that this was the first time the group had
been involved in an action of this kind.
"We have seen rhetoric that is destructive and divisive before, but
taking a platform that is supposed to be for news and analysis and
using it to stoke racial animosity just crossed the line," Rucker
said.
The group also contacts advertisers directly but has yet to call on
its members to boycott their products or bombard them with phone
calls, Rucker said, instead giving companies the opportunity "to be
responsible corporate citizens."
Rucker added that he "absolutely expects" other advertisers to follow
suit and drop out because the wave of defections "raises the stakes
for them to stick around."
For its part, Fox News said through a spokeswoman that while some
advertisers have "removed their spots from Beck," they have just
shifted to "other programs on the network, so there has been no
revenue lost."
She also cited an earlier statement by Bill Shine, the channel's
senior vice president of programming, that "Glenn Beck expressed a
personal opinion which represented his own views, not those of the Fox
News Channel. And as with all commentators in the cable news arena, he
is given the freedom to express his opinions."
Adding fuel to the fire is Donny Deutsch, a TV personality and head of
the ad agency Deutsch Inc., which is part of the Interpublic Group .
He, too, called for a boycott of Beck's show, saying on the air on the
business-news channel CNBC that "this has to stop," and the "only way
this stops" is if sponsors pull their support.
He went on to read a list of companies that advertise on Beck's show,
including Pfizer and Kraft Foods.
The pharmaceutical giant isn't backing down yet, telling MarketWatch
that it hasn't made any changes in its media buying.
"Our main focus is to make all consumers aware of important
information about health and wellness, and the best way to do this is
through a broad range of advertising environments," said a Pfizer
spokeswoman.
Kraft was a bit more noncommittal. "Because of the diversity of our
consumers, Kraft Foods will continue to advertise on a wide range of
networks and programs," said a spokeswoman. "We make every attempt to
place our commercials on programs with universal appeal. It is our
policy not to advertise on programs with extreme or inflammatory
content or images on any network."
Ad boycotts driven by viewer anger or corporate caution over broadcast
content have been a staple of the American television business for
decades. Few have been successful in any long-term way.
Several companies pulled ads from ABC's "Desperate Housewives" at one
point, but they were quickly replaced, and the show went to become one
of network TV's biggest moneymakers. Ditto an all-out attempt in the
1990s by the American Family Association to boycott "NYPD Blue" even
before it went on the air. After a rough start, the show became one of
the most popular in prime time and attracted advertisers by the
score.
By contrast, when Bill Maher was hosting "Politically Incorrect," his
comments about the relative courage of the terrorists who attacked the
World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, set off a firestorm. Several big
companies including Fedex and Sears Holding yanked their ads, and some
affiliates refused to run the show. It eventually dwindled away and
was canceled early the next year, although Maher himself now has a
popular program on ad-free HBO.
For advertisers, "the halo of the show means you are connected with
supporting that point of view," said John Greening, a Northwestern
University professor of marketing who spent 28 years in the
advertising business. "It is not about awareness but about
association."
"Beck's demagoguery crossed the line of the socially expected taste
level, and I can't think of a company on the planet who wants to be a
part of that conversation," Greening said. "It is a no-brainer to pull
your ads."
Whether the show can survive with advertisers deserting it depends on
whether they can replaced and how much money Fox News is prepared to
lose before pulling the plug.
It also, Greening said, "depends on Beck's level of contrition or how
he explains it. But unless he does something to rehabilitate himself,
he has probably crossed the line into obscurity."
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Arlo-Payne
I buy only products I see on Fox and Fox news. I also buy more of the
products I see during the Glenn Beck show. Glenn is trying to save
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ramashiva
> On Aug 14 2009 10:33 AM, ramashiva wrote:
>
> > This story is currently on the front page of MarketWatch, and it is
> > number one on the list of most read articles.
>
> > Considering that Rupert Murdoch owns both MarketWatch and Fox News,
> > this is quite remarkable.
>
> > I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
> > silence people, whether done by the left or the right. But in this
> > case, I think it is justified, because Beck is clearly a foaming at
> > the mouth, batshit insane hatemonger.
>
Jesus, Arlo. At what point in time did you become a batshit insane
right-wing nutcase? I must have missed that.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
La Cosa Nostradamus
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ramashiva
wrote:
> He reminds me of Olberman, in a Coke-Pepsi kinda way
If you see any similarities at all between Keith Olbermann and Glenn
Beck, other than that they both have shows on a cable news network,
then you are even more batshit insane than I currently think you are.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Mrs Irish Mike
to tell the truth. Some people think the same of Micheal Savage.
Anyway, those people never change their minds.
So, I'd like to change the subject.
I'd like to see a network boycott advertisers. If a network were to
announce that they will never air a commercial that promises to
increase the size of a certain part of the male anatomy, I would soon
have my favorite station.
Same goes for the commercial for Viva Las Viagra.
What is it with guys and their dicks? And why must it be on TV?
ramashiva
> There are those who think Glen Beck is the only person brave enough
> to tell the truth. Some people think the same of Micheal Savage.
> Anyway, those people never change their minds.
>
> So, I'd like to change the subject.
>
> I'd like to see a network boycott advertisers. If a network were to
> announce that they will never air a commercial that promises to
> increase the size of a certain part of the male anatomy, I would soon
> have my favorite station.
You just hate it when you see that what is considered normal in this
country is heterosexual love and marriage, don't you?
I wonder why we never see two men these ads, along with subtle
suggestions of two men fucking each other in the ass?
Here's a clue, Bea.
A very large majority of Americans consider cocksucking, assfucking,
limp-wristed, HIV-infected faggots to be disgusting, disease-ridden,
sexually degenerate, perverted girly men.
They should consider themselves lucky to have it as good as they do in
this country. It wasn't always this way. But are they satisfied?
Fuck no. They want to equate two men fucking each other in the ass to
God's Holiest Sacrament -- Marriage.
Jesus warned us that when we saw the abomination of desolation in the
temple that we should run for our lives and flee to the mountains.
If two men getting married in a Christian Church is not an
abomination, I would like to know what the fuck is. God has told us
more than once that two men fucking each other in the ass is an
abomination to Him. God's Law is eternal and unchanging. Political
correctness and calling people bigots can't change that.
Here is truth, Bea.
I personally guarantee that if Proposition 8 is ever repealed in
California, and same sex marriage is made legal again, God will rain
down fire and brimstone from Heaven on the entire state.
The Virgin Mary gave me the authority last year to call down fire and
brimstone from Heaven on California if Proposition 8 passed.
By the way, if you know anything at all about occult sciences, you
know that every prominent figure has a number associated with him.
Jesus Christ's number is 8.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
> Same goes for the commercial for Viva Las Viagra.
>
> What is it with guys and their dicks? And why must it be on TV?
What is it with psycho lesbian bitches like you who are threatened by
men with large cocks, and who feel the need to suggest to men that
they have small cocks?
William Coleman (ramashiva)
High Priest of the Virgin Mary on Planet Earth
Mrs Irish Mike
Uh... OK?
ramashiva
> Uh... OK?
First time I have ever seen you at a loss for words, Bea.
Were you rendered speechless by a reply from the High Priest of the
Virgin Mary on Planet Earth?
You have no idea how outrageous I can get, Bea. I have been
comparatively mild and restrained since you started posting here.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Mrs Irish Mike
Internet hard guy = pussy
High Priest of the Virgin Mary on Planet Earth = nutter
mccard
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> This story is currently on the front page of MarketWatch, and it is
> number one on the list of most read articles.
>
> Considering that Rupert Murdoch owns both MarketWatch and Fox News,
> this is quite remarkable.
>
> I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
> silence people, whether done by the left or the right. But in this
> case, I think it is justified, because Beck is clearly a foaming at
> the mouth, batshit insane hatemonger.
>
Glenn is an arachnid. I bet when he was totally stewed and on acid
back in the day, he imprinted on a wolf spider and that became his
whole personality. He spends his hours on the radio every day
injecting poison into all his little captives, snared in his web. It
would be very unsurprising if some of these militia ramping up for
civil war don't start do little "heil beck" salutes and take him on as
their head spider.
da pickle
> I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
> silence people, whether done by the left or the right.
But I'll do it this time. So much for principles.
Methinks you protest too much.
risky biz
The 'methinks you protest too much' phrase is more effective when you
don't use it repeatedly and incongruously.
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ramashiva
> "ramashiva"
>
> > I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
> > silence people, whether done by the left or the right.
>
> But I'll do it this time.
Do what this time? I am not participating in any way in the campaign
to complain to Beck's advertisers.
So much for principles.
> Methinks you protest too much.
Exactly what is it that you think I am protesting?
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Clave
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> On Aug 14 2009 4:43 PM, da pickle wrote:
>
>> "ramashiva"
>>
>> > I generally don't approve of complaining to advertisers to try to
>> > silence people, whether done by the left or the right.
>>
>> But I'll do it this time. So much for principles.
>>
>> Methinks you protest too much.
>
> The 'methinks you protest too much' phrase is more effective when you
> don't use it repeatedly and incongruously.
Helps to get the quote right, too.
Jim
risky biz
At least he didn't say, "I think thou protest too mucheth".
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Jerry Sturdivant
"ramashiva"
> You just hate it when you see that what is
> considered normal in this country is heterosexual
> love and marriage, don't you?
For somebody that claims higher education, I'm surprised you don't know what
'normal' means. You don't know that homosexuality is normal and a part of
nature? You've never heard of homosexual animals? You have no clue as to
drone bees? That other countries have homosexual marriages, as 'normal?'
Know what it takes to make a mule? Know how many animals show to have
homosexuality among them?
I won't bother listing all the facts; you religious folks simply ignore
them.
> I wonder why we never see two men these ads, along with
> subtle suggestions of two men fucking each other in the ass?
What do gay people do that straights don't do?
I can imagine you religious extremists can only have sex in the "missionary
position." And that, "eat pussy" refers to consuming road kill. You (and any
possible mate) are to be pitied.
> Jesus warned us that when we saw the abomination of desolation
> in the temple that we should run for our lives and flee to the mountains.
I actually feel sorry for you, living in them mountains.
> The Virgin Mary gave me the authority last year to.
Religious people scare me. (Like Bush did).
Jerry (hiding from the religious freaks) 'n Vegas
- Dance naked in front of your pets.
da pickle
> Know what it takes to make a mule?
What does it take to make a mule?
Pepe Papon
<rama...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>A very large majority of Americans consider cocksucking, assfucking,
>limp-wristed, HIV-infected faggots to be disgusting, disease-ridden,
>sexually degenerate, perverted girly men.
I certainly understand the opposition to gay marriage, but why the
vitriol against gays?
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Jerry Sturdivant
"da pickle"
>> For somebody that claims higher education, I'm surprised
>> you don't know what 'normal' means. You don't know that
>> homosexuality is normal and a part of nature? You've never
>> heard of homosexual animals? You have no clue as to drone
>> bees? That other countries have homosexual marriages, as
>> 'normal?' Know what it takes to make a mule? Know how
>> many animals show to have homosexuality among them?
>>
>> Know what it takes to make a mule?
> What does it take to make a mule?
Mules are the result of mating between horses and donkeys. Usually different
species can't mate, but if they are successful, their offspring usually
can't reproduce themselves.
Jerry �n Vegas
- Sado-Necro-Beastiality proponents unite: BEAT a dead horse!!!
da pickle
>>> For somebody that claims higher education, I'm surprised
>>> you don't know what 'normal' means. You don't know that
>>> homosexuality is normal and a part of nature? You've never
>>> heard of homosexual animals? You have no clue as to drone
>>> bees? That other countries have homosexual marriages, as
>>> 'normal?' Know what it takes to make a mule? Know how
>>> many animals show to have homosexuality among them?
>>>
>>> Know what it takes to make a mule?
>
>> What does it take to make a mule?
>
> Mules are the result of mating between horses and donkeys. Usually
> different
> species can't mate, but if they are successful, their offspring usually
> can't reproduce themselves.
I guess I have to point out that you asked this question in the context of
"homosexuality."
I could not determine what mules had to do with homosexuality. I still need
additional enlightenment.
Perhaps you are using some sort of alternative definition of "make" in this
context.
Bob T.
<snip>
>
> Here is truth, Bea.
>
> I personally guarantee that if Proposition 8 is ever repealed in
> California, and same sex marriage is made legal again, God will rain
> down fire and brimstone from Heaven on the entire state.
Even the Central Valley where they will surely vote to keep the homos
from getting married? How unfair of Him.
>
> The Virgin Mary gave me the authority last year to call down fire and
> brimstone from Heaven on California if Proposition 8 passed.
Holy Mother of God!
>
> By the way, if you know anything at all about occult sciences, you
> know that every prominent figure has a number associated with him.
> Jesus Christ's number is 8.
>
Did you hear that they changed the Number of the Beast a couple of
years ago? Apparently '666' was just a typo, the _real_ Number of the
Beast is 661 or 616 or something.
> Coincidence? I don't think so.
>
Indeed not! This also informs us that, in 1998, Jesus was all for
decreasing class size in California:
"Proposition 8 called for permanent class size reduction funding for
districts establishing parent-teacher councils, testing for teacher
credentialing, and pupil suspension for drug possession. Proposition 8
failed with 36.8% approval."
This also explains why Jesus plays so much 8-Ball, but when he pitches
at Heavenly Stadium he is only good for eight innings.
- Bob T.
Jerry Sturdivant
"da pickle"
>> Mules are the result of mating between horses and
>> donkeys. Usually different species can't mate, but if
>> they are successful, their offspring usually can't
>> reproduce themselves.
> I guess I have to point out that you asked this question
> in the context of "homosexuality."
No, I didn�t.
> I could not determine what mules had to do with
> homosexuality. I still need additional enlightenment.
Go back to the top to see what this was all about.
Jerry �n Vegas
- Never confuse faith in God with religion.
da pickle
is quoted:
"For somebody that claims higher education, I'm surprised you don't know
what
'normal' means. You don't know that homosexuality is normal and a part of
nature? You've never heard of homosexual animals? You have no clue as to
drone bees? That other countries have homosexual marriages, as 'normal?'
Know what it takes to make a mule? Know how many animals show to have
homosexuality among them?"
>> I guess I have to point out that you asked this question
>> in the context of "homosexuality."
>
> No, I didn�t.
>
>> I could not determine what mules had to do with
>> homosexuality. I still need additional enlightenment.
>
> Go back to the top to see what this was all about.
I still do not see the connection between mules and homosexuality.
Jerry Sturdivant
"da pickle"
>> "For somebody that claims higher education, I'm surprised
>> you don't know what 'normal' means. You don't know that
>> homosexuality is normal and a part of nature? You've never
>> heard of homosexual animals? You have no clue as to drone
>> bees? That other countries have homosexual marriages, as
>> 'normal?' Know what it takes to make a mule? Know how many
>> animals show to have homosexuality among them?"
> I still do not see the connection between mules and homosexuality.
Because it wasn�t. But then, I already told you that. It was in reference to
Bill tirade against �unusual� (not normal) sexual proclivities.
I know it appears I�m nitpicking you like Bill was, but your ignorance of
the discussion causes you to continually drift off the thread into
unwarranted personal attacks. Stay tuned or butt out.
Jerry �n Vegas
- If ignorance is bliss, conservatives are in nirvana!