Writing on the issue of national and state debt:
"In the US, most of our states can't legally borrow anywhere NEAR that
much.
California, on the verge of going BROKE, owes less than 4 billion.
" -- Beldingbat, RGP, April 9, 2010
Now, I know what most of you are thinking: "Come on, Bill. NOBODY is
that clueless, even Belding. That was obviously a typo."
And I don't blame you. The bounds of Belding's cluelessness are hard
to grasp. It's like contemplating infinity or the origins of the
universe. But no, it's NOT a typo. He actually believes that. How do I
know that? A couple of sentences later, he repeats it!
"They owe less than 4 billion."
Ha ha ha ha, I am laughing my ass off. Oh please, my side hurts, my
eyes
are watering. Oh please, stop making me laugh, Beldingbat, I'm about
to pee on
myself.
> As if you needed more proof...but I can't resist. This one is really
> funny!
>
> Writing on the issue of national and state debt:
>
> "In the US, most of our states can't legally borrow anywhere NEAR that
> much.
> California, on the verge of going BROKE, owes less than 4 billion.
> " -- Beldingbat, RGP, April 9, 2010
>
> Now, I know what most of you are thinking: "Come on, Bill. NOBODY is
> that clueless, even Belding. That was obviously a typo."
>
> And I don't blame you. The bounds of Belding's cluelessness are hard
> to grasp. It's like contemplating infinity or the origins of the
> universe. But no, it's NOT a typo. He actually believes that. How do I
> know that? A couple of sentences later, he repeats it!
>
> "They owe less than 4 billion."
That's pretty awesome.
>
> Ha ha ha ha, I am laughing my ass off. Oh please, my side hurts, my
> eyes
> are watering. Oh please, stop making me laugh, Beldingbat, I'm about
> to pee on
> myself.
This paragraph is very Paul-esque.
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"Jason Pawloski" <a67...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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>> Ha ha ha ha, I am laughing my ass off. Oh please, my side hurts,
>> my
>> eyes
>> are watering. Oh please, stop making me laugh, Beldingbat, I'm
>> about
>> to pee on
>> myself.
>
> This paragraph is very Paul-esque.
Ya, I kinda borrowed it from him. Maybe whatever he's got is
contagious.
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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And remember; this is the same guy that said cool aid was never spelled with
a C (and that's the way he spelled it).
Jerry 'n Vegas
"Cool aid was never spelled with a C.." (Note his spelling!)
"Cool aid is a misspelling of Kool Aid.."
"You posted some idiot who didn't know how to spell."
-- Beldin: 4/6/2010
"Guy flops top set and a queen high flush in a $5 omaha donkathon and you
expect him to fold? The only moron here is you." - CincinnatiKid to
Beldin 01/13/10
Omg, my side hurts too. Please, Beldin, please stop!
> >
> > This paragraph is very Paul-esque.
>
> Ya, I kinda borrowed it from him. Maybe whatever he's got is contagious.
Take two aspirin, tell Beldin to go fuck himself, and call me in the
morning.
> On Apr 9 2010 11:21 AM, BillB wrote:
> > Ha ha ha ha, I am laughing my ass off. Oh please, my side hurts, my
> > eyes
> > are watering. Oh please, stop making me laugh, Beldingbat, I'm about
> > to pee on
> > myself.
>
> This paragraph is very Paul-esque.
>
> --
> Voted RGP's Stupidest Poster on 3/22/09
Exactly what I was thinking. I must be getting stupider.
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Shithead neglects the fact that a cite was provided.
If the cite were WRONG, that isn't my fault.
Of course, Shithead also neglets to point out that the "Near that much"
figure is 177 BILLION dollars.
Billb IS, of course, a complete moron.
Let's explain to the shithead how states in the US operate .
State Balanced Budget Requirements
Requirements that states balance their budgets are often said to be a major
difference between state and federal budgeting. State officials certainly
take an obligation to balance the budget seriously, and in the debate over a
federal balanced budget in the early- and mid-1990s, much of the discussion
centered on the states' with balanced budgets. This article is concerned
with the nature, definition and eforcement of state balanced-budget
requirements.
Nature of state balanced-budget requirements All the states except Vermont
have a legal requirement of a balanced budget. Some are constitutional, some
are statutory, and some have been derived by judicial decision from
constitutional provisions about state indebtedness that do not, on their
face, call for a balanced budget. The General Accounting Office has
commented that "some balanced budget requirements are based on
interpretations of state constitutions and statutes rather than on an
explicit statement that the state must have a balanced budget."
The requirements vary in stringency from state to state. In some states the
requirement is that the introduced budget be balanced, or that the enacted
budget be balanced. In other states policymakers are required to ensure that
expenditures in a fiscal year stay within the cash available for that fiscal
year. Other states may carry unavoidable deficits into the next fiscal year
for resolution.
There are three general kinds of state balanced budget requirements:
a.. The governor's proposed budget must be balanced (43 states and Puerto
Rico).
b.. The budget the legislature passes must be balanced (39 states and
Puerto Rico).
c.. The budget must be balanced at the end of a fiscal year or biennium,
so that no deficit can be carried forward (37 states and Puerto Rico).
Such provisions can be either constitutional and statutory, but are more
rigorous if they are constitutional since they are not subject to
legislative amendment. Some states have two or all three of the possible
balanced-budget requirements, and a few have only a statutory requirement
that the governor submit a balanced budget. Weighing such considerations
against one another, one federal study concluded that 36 states have
rigorous balanced-budget requirements, four have weak requirements, and the
other 10 fall in between those categories.
What has to be balanced? State balanced budget requirements in practice
refer to operating budgets and not to capital budgets. Operating budgets
include annual expenditures--such items as salaries and wages, aid to local
governments, health and welfare benefits, and other expenditures that are
repeated from year to year. State capital expenditure, mainly for land,
highways, and buildings, is largely financed by debt. Court decisions and
referendums on borrowing have led to the exclusion of expenditures funded by
long-term debt from calculations whether a budget is balanced.
In practice, the following kinds of state revenues and expenditures also
have little impact on state balanced budgets:
a.. Almost all federal reimbursements or grants to a state are committed
to specific purposes, and the governor and legislature have little
discretion over the use of most federal funds.
b.. Transportation trust fund money raised from state motor fuel taxes is
usually earmarked for highways and other transportation purposes.
c.. Some tax collections may be diverted to local governments or other
specified purposes without appropriations.
d.. Some states allow agencies or programs to collect and spend fees,
charges or tuition without annual or biennial appropriations.
In each case, it is practically impossible for revenues and expenditures to
get out of balance, since expenditures are controlled by available funds.
Thus it is not surprising that the focus of "balancing the budget" tends to
be on the general fund although general fund expenditures compose only 50
percent to 60 percent of total state spending.
Enforcement of balanced budget requirements State requirements for balanced
budgets do not impose legal penalties for failure to do so. There are,
however, two sorts of enforcement mechanisms. Prohibitions against carrying
deficits into the next fiscal year and restrictions on the issuance of state
debt help to enforce balanced budget provisions by making it difficult to
finance a deficit. In many states governors or joint legislative-executive
commissions can revise budgets after they are enacted to bring them into
balance.
Unlike the federal government, states are not able to issue debt routinely.
Issues of general obligation debt require at least the approval of the
legislature and in many states, voter approval. The issue of revenue bonds
requires legislation to create an agency to issue bonds and the creation of
a revenue stream to repay the debt. These practices mean that the issuance
of debt is fully in the public view. It is extremely rare for a state
government to borrow long-term funds to cover operating expenses, although.
Louisiana did in 1988 and Connecticut did in 1991. There do not appear to be
any other examples of this practice from recent years.
Or is Bill just a fucking shithead?
>
>
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hpq4nm$d7$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Shithead neglects the fact that a cite was provided.
>
> If the cite were WRONG, that isn't my fault.
hahahaha ... omg, this clown gets funnier every minute.
First of all, show me a cite right here, right now, that says
California is $4 billion in debt. Otherwise, admit you are a fucking
liar, in addition to being as dumb as a box of rocks.
Secondly, if I or anyone else who had the slightest awareness of the
world around them, or any grasp of numeracy, or any knowledge of
economics, saw a cite that said a state with a GDP of ~$1.8 trillion
was going broke because they owed $4 billion, we would recognize
immediately that that HAD to be some kind of mistake. That is
equivalent to someone making $100,000/yr going broke because they owed
$2000.
You are a proven idiot. Own it.
> immediately that that HAD to be some kind of mistake. That is
> equivalent to someone making $100,000/yr going broke because they owed
> $2000.
Or $84.
---
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http://www.donkeymanifesto.com
..and no, this doesn't mean I'm back.
_____________________________________________________________________
> Shithead neglects the fact that a cite was provided.
Was it now? Where was that?
When you claimed that California's debt was less than $4 billion, this
is what you said --
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/msg/a974576157d9f2a6
_____________________________________________
California, on the verge of going BROKE, owes less than 4 billion.
The state of California's economy is the 8'th largest in the WORLD, by
the way, 1.8 TRILLION GDP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California
They owe less than 4 billion.
______________________________________________
The only cite I see there is a link to a Wikipedia article. I
scrutinized this article and saw nothing about California's debt being
less than $4 billion.
Perhaps I missed something. Can you point out where in this article
there is something which justifies your claim that California's debt
is less than $4 billion?
Or is this Wikipedia article not the cite to which you were
referring? I read your posts in the rest of the thread from which the
above quote was taken, and I didn't see any relevant cite, even after
Bill challenged your $4 billion figure.
So where did you make this cite justifying your claim that
California's debt is less than $4 billion? A Google archives link
would be appreciated.
Can you please answer two simple yes or no questions for me?
Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
incorrect? Yes or no.
Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
figure incorrect? Yes or no.
Please refrain from your usual practice of indulging in a smokescreen
of obfuscating irrelevancies.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
news:hpq743$ams$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
That is
> equivalent to someone making $100,000/yr going broke because they
> owed $2000.
$200. Not $2000. That *was* a typo. Glad I caught it first. lol
"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ee0a27f2-c571-403f-a425-
> Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
> figure incorrect? Yes or no.
I think all three of us know there is no such cite. California has
something like $80 billion in bond debt. That's not to mention the
news this week that they have about $500 billion in unfunded pension
liability and an ~$20 billion annual budget deficit going forward
under baseline projections.
Omg, my eyes are watering again. It is so amusing to see you and Ramashiva
bitch-slap the ever-loving fuck out of Beldin. The only thing that would be
sweeter, would be if his girlfriend were to witness this mayhem. That
would be icing on the cake, as I am sure Beldin does not allow her to see
what he does in his computer room, I am sure it is off limits to her. He
probably has her fooled into thinking that he is a man, you know how
impressionable young girls can be. If she were to see what you and
Ramashiva are doing to him, she would lose all respect for him, perhaps even
going so far as to ask Ramashiva to bend her over and give her some so she
can see what she has been missing.
Your fictional persona is submissive to the Ramashiva persona.
You're not fooling anyone.
Cite was included in the post.
The far more important fact, of course, is that state's can't run up the
relative degree of debt that Onmtario and Quebec did.
That, indeed, Canada's debt load is about 70% of GDP
And that you, of course, are a perfect shithead.
Any comment on this amazing coincidence?
WOW, you're a complete fucknut.
The GDP of California doesn't equate to it's tax revenue.
AND, of course,100 Billion wouldn't equate to going broke under THAT kind of
definition either, since nearly anyone could 'borrow' 10% of their annual
'income'
Of course it isn't California's income, and of course you're an imbecile.
The sad fact is, and again you will never acknowledge it, is that total
state debt as a ratio to federal debt much much smaller than total Province
debt in Canada as a ratio to YOUR federal debt, and thus explains why the
only meaningful number is TOTAL debt of the countries.
It is obvious to any non troll or non moron exactly what I was talking about
the whole time.
You, being a trolling shithead, and showing much more evidence of the former
than the latter....
You sound just like Willie and Peepee, Bill.
Why is that?
Why don't you invite your girlfriend to join in the fun on RGP sometime,
Beldin? Seriously we could all chat and have a good time, get to know each
other. Of course, none of us knows what the other one looks like, and we
have to leave that up to our imaginations. Right now, I am imagining your
petite young girlfriend bent over the side of a bed in a cheap downtown Las
Vegas motel, and this huge hulk of a man called Ramashiva is stuffing her
like a Thanksgiving turkey. And he has been on a 72-hour Red Bull binge,
with no shower or change of underwear. Now how's that for a colorful
imagination? Why don't you put that in your book?
Imagining Ramashiva in ANY kind of a sexual situation is DISGUSTING.
I was considering having a snack before I read that.
EW.
My beloved is mine, and she and I have a no-sharing policy.
>
>
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hpr3ia$ab3$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>Can you please answer two simple yes or no questions for me?
>>Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
>>incorrect? Yes or no.
>>Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
>>figure incorrect? Yes or no.
>>Please refrain from your usual practice of indulging in a
>>smokescreen
>>of obfuscating irrelevancies.
> Willie, amazingly, you show up in the middle of a trolling session
> by Billb, who trolls JUST like you.
>
> Any comment on this amazing coincidence?
Why didn't you answer his questions?
> Willie, amazingly, you show up in the middle of a trolling session by Billb,
> who trolls JUST like you.
> Any comment on this amazing coincidence?
Why don't you answer my questions?
Here, I will repeat them for you --
Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
incorrect? Yes or no.
Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
figure incorrect? Yes or no.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hpq4qv$nk$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
WHA! HA! HA!
Sure you did, you fool. Look at
Re: These Democrats getting $billions for switching Obamacare vote
Sent 4/6/2010 at 6:40 pm
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hpgnqk$1rv$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Where you ADMITTED and POSTED a recipe for "Cool Aid."
Then used the term cool aid.
It's so much fun kicking your stupid ass.
Jerry 'n Vegas
"Cool aid was never spelled with a C.." (Note his spelling!)
"Cool aid is a misspelling of Kool Aid.."
"You posted some idiot who didn't know how to spell."
-- Beldin: 4/6/2010
"Guy flops top set and a queen high flush in a $5 omaha donkathon and you
expect him to fold? The only moron here is you." - CincinnatiKid to
Beldin 01/13/10
> Willie, amazingly, you show up in the middle of a trolling session by
> Billb,
> who trolls JUST like you.
> Any comment on this amazing coincidence?
Why don't you answer my questions?
***
You answer mine first
What's really going to be fun is watching Beldin somehow try to weasel
out of this one and declare victory, as he always no matter how badly
he's been humiliated.
--
~ Seth Jackson
MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
Don't be silly, Beldin, I am not suggesting that you share your beloved. I
am merely demonstrating how powerful a good imagination can be. For
instance, I want you to help me run an experiment, Beldin. Now from what I
gather, you and your beloved like to cuddle and spend romantic moments
together. That's sweet. Well, here's what I want you to do. The next time
you kiss her a third time, I want you to actually count it silently in your
mind. The first kiss you will say "Kiss One Thousand", and the second kiss
will be "Kiss Two Thousand". Actually think of this when you are kissing
your beloved the next time you are together. On the third kiss, I want you
to picture this in your mind. Say to yourself, "One Thousand Ramashiva, Two
Thousand Ramashiva, and a big 280 pound Ramashiva who has not shaven and has
a 5-day beard growth, is dressed in his Army fatigues and has several huge
guns strapped on his body. Actually picture that in your mind the next time
you kiss your beloved. And,....the guns are BRIGHT PINK! So, he is a huge
hulk of 280 pounds, and he is sporting these automatic weapons over his
shoulder that are BRIGHT PINK, and he is rubbing his crotch on your
girlfriend's neck. Try it, Beldin, the next time you have a romantic moment
with your beloved, think of Ramashiva with these big BRIGHT PINK guns and he
is rubbing his crotch, grinding on the back of her neck. This is just an
experiment I want you to try, strictly for educational purposes, and tell me
if you can actually see him grinding on her the next time you are hugging
and kissing her. Remember, the first time you kiss her, actually say
silently in your mind, "ONE THOUSAND RAMASHIVA, TWO THOUSAND RAMSHIVA", and
then think of the bright PINK guns, and he rubbing all over her. See if you
can do that. Let me know how it works out.
"Paul Popinjay" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:hpqsc0$gii$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> news:hpqreu$m8o$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>
>> "ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:ee0a27f2-c571-403f-a425-
>>
>>> Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
>>> figure incorrect? Yes or no.
>>
>> I think all three of us know there is no such cite. California has
>> something like $80 billion in bond debt. That's not to mention the news
>> this week that they have about $500 billion in unfunded pension liability
>> and an ~$20 billion annual budget deficit going forward under baseline
>> projections.
>
>
> Omg, my eyes are watering again. It is so amusing to see you and
> Ramashiva
> bitch-slap the ever-loving fuck out of Beldin.
It's so easy, it's become a part time sport. If you run out of posts to read
or respond to, just find a Bel-dim post and kick his stupid ass. He's become
the Tag Line King because he screws up so much.
Jerry 'n Vegas
"Cool aid was never spelled with a C.." (Note his spelling!)
"Cool aid is a misspelling of Kool Aid.."
"You posted some idiot who didn't know how to spell."
-- Beldin: 4/6/2010
"Guy flops top set and a queen high flush in a $5 omaha donkathon and you
expect him to fold? The only moron here is you." - CincinnatiKid to
Beldin 01/13/10
I proved YOUR cite was wrong, because it in NO WAY referred to any
"Kool-aid" like product.
We KNOW you're a liar and a shithead.
You, Willie, and Billb all post within a minute or so of each other.
Coincidence?
>
> Then used the term cool aid.
No, Jerry.
The discussion was about a product.
A specific type of product.
Willie, stop the trolling.
My god, man, how many personalities do you have?
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
First of all, I asked you questions before you asked me any, so your
request that I answer your questions first is silly.
Second of all, the only question you asked me was --
"Any comment on this amazing coincidence?"
My answer is "No, I have no comment."
There. I have answered the only question you have asked me. Now
answer these two simple questions --
This is trolling and hiding by the Bill the Shithead coalition.
But then, you KNOW that.
You don't like the truth much
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:da3caf85-98b5-4c0b...@y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 5:02 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Willie, amazingly, you show up in the middle of a trolling session by
> > Billb,
> > who trolls JUST like you.
> > Any comment on this amazing coincidence?
> Why don't you answer my questions?
> ***
> You answer mine first
First of all, I asked you questions before you asked me any, so your
request that I answer your questions first is silly.
***
Willie, no it's not.
You show up outta nowhere, all of a sudden.
It's suspicious.
What triggered the personality shift?
Second of all, the only question you asked me was --
"Any comment on this amazing coincidence?"
My answer is "No, I have no comment."
***
So you're tacitly admitting what we already knew.
Thanks, Will.
There. I have answered the only question you have asked me. Now
answer these two simple questions --
Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
incorrect? Yes or no.
***
No.
It was my cites claim.
If it were in error, as previously stated, the point still stands that it is
nowhere near the percentage of national debt that either Ontario or Quebec
has.
The actual amount didn't matter; the percentage of federal debt did.
Unless you're claiming California owes over a trillion dollars, Willie?
Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
figure incorrect? Yes or no.
***
Yeah, there was a cite there.
It's in the wikipedia page.
Look at the links on the bottom, Willie.
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hpr3fq$91j$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
>>> figure incorrect? Yes or no.
>>
>> I think all three of us know there is no such cite.
>
> Cite was included in the post.
You have had ample time to find said cite and post it here. You have
looked. You cannot find it, because it does not exist. Yet you still
claim it does exist. So not only have I proved beyond a shadow of a
doubt to everyone reading this thread that you are a numeric and
economic illiterate, but I have also shown that you are a compulsive
liar.
Mission accomplished.
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
> incorrect? Yes or no.
> ***
> No.
So you are saying that California's debt is less that $4 billion? Yes
or no.
> It was my cites claim.
It was YOUR claim. You claim that your cite, which is evidently the
Wikipedia article, backs up your assertion. It doesn't.
<snip obfuscating irrelevancy>
> Is your claim that you provided a cite justifying the $4 billion
> figure incorrect? Yes or no.
> ***
> Yeah, there was a cite there.
> It's in the wikipedia page.
> Look at the links on the bottom, Willie.
LOL. Which link???
You are hopeless.
You stated that California's debt is less than $4 billion. That is
incorrect. You still won't admit that your statement is incorrect.
Then you claim you provided a cite which justifies your incorrect
claim. You didn't.
Now you claim that one of the links in your cite states that
California's debt is less than $4 billion.
I ask you again, which link?
Give me a link to an actual page which states that California's debt
is less than $4 billion.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
You, being the trolling shithead that you are, know you can't possibly win
on the merits of your case.
Canada DOES have around 70% gdp for a debtload, and you can't deny it any
more.
US States DON'T have a large contributing factor to the total US public
debtload.
So instead, you're grabbing on to one number and masturbating to it.
The 4 billion was apparently wrong.
The larger point was not, which, of course, is why you failed to address it.
Keep lying, snipping, trolling, and generally being a shithead, Willie
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
> incorrect? Yes or no.
> ***
> No.
So you are saying that California's debt is less that $4 billion? Yes
or no.
> It was my cites claim.
It was YOUR claim.
No, Willie,
Stop lying.
It was my cite's claim.
Don't lie, don't snip deceptively, in fact, just for novelty, only tell the
truth.
Glad your back.
We can talk about SSI going cash negative THIS YEAR.
When did YOU claim it was going to happen again?
> "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> > You have had ample time to find said cite and post it here. You
have
> > looked. You cannot find it, because it does not exist. Yet you still claim
> > it does exist. So not only have I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to
> > everyone reading this thread that you are a numeric and economic
> > illiterate, but I have also shown that you are a compulsive liar.
> No, shithead.
> It's in the Wikipedia page,
No it isn't.
> because I found it there when I posted.
No you didn't.
> I'm not going to dig it up, because you're stating it's incorrect.
No, the reason you aren't going to dig it up is because you can't.
You have been caught making an incorrect statement. Rather than admit
you were incorrect and move on, you blame a cite which you cannot
provide, because the cite doesn't exist.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
> > You have had ample time to find said cite and post it here. You
have
> > looked. You cannot find it, because it does not exist. Yet you still
> > claim
> > it does exist. So not only have I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to
> > everyone reading this thread that you are a numeric and economic
> > illiterate, but I have also shown that you are a compulsive liar.
> No, shithead.
> It's in the Wikipedia page,
No it isn't.
***
Yeah it is
> because I found it there when I posted.
No you didn't.
***
Yeah, I did
> I'm not going to dig it up, because you're stating it's incorrect.
No, the reason you aren't going to dig it up is because you can't.
***
Willie, go back to jerking off outside windows
The cite's there.
I can accept it's inaccurate. Doesn't alter the main point in the least,
which is why the Willie brothers are focusing on that rather than the main
point.
You have so many personalities, when you masturbate it's a circle jerk
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:c0bf3129-ef8d-4d37...@30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 6:45 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
> > incorrect? Yes or no.
> > ***
> > No.
> So you are saying that California's debt is less that $4 billion? Yes
> or no.
Why didn't you answer this question?
> > It was my cites claim.
> It was YOUR claim.
> No, Willie,
Yes it was your claim. Why are you lying?
> Stop lying.
Excuse me. You are the one lying.
> It was my cite's claim.
No it wasn't. Why are you lying???
Bill and I are still both waiting for you to provide an actual link to
a page stating that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e0dc85f1-c7f2-4fd8...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 7:10 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > It's in the Wikipedia page,
> No it isn't.
> ***
> Yeah it is
It is not in the Wikipedia article you linked. You claim it is in one
of the links at the bottom of the page. So give me an actual link to
a page which states that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
> > because I found it there when I posted.
> No you didn't.
> ***
> Yeah, I did
> > I'm not going to dig it up, because you're stating it's incorrect.
> No, the reason you aren't going to dig it up is because you can't.
> ***
> Willie, go back to jerking off outside windows
> The cite's there.
No it is not. If it were, you would be happy to provide an actual
link and prove both Bill and me wrong.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:c0bf3129-ef8d-4d37...@30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 6:45 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > Is your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion
> > incorrect? Yes or no.
> > ***
> > No.
> So you are saying that California's debt is less that $4 billion? Yes
> or no.
Why didn't you answer this question?
> > It was my cites claim.
> It was YOUR claim.
> No, Willie,
Yes it was your claim. Why are you lying?
***
I'm not the liar here.
> Stop lying.
Excuse me. You are the one lying.
***
Nope
> It was my cite's claim.
No it wasn't. Why are you lying???
***
Wllie, it's not a lie.
Why are you a retard?
Hiding from the SSI debate again.
Shall I dig up your claims on when SSI would have cash flow problems and how
far off it was?
We all knew you were lying then. I suspect even you knew that.
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e0dc85f1-c7f2-4fd8...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 7:10 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > It's in the Wikipedia page,
> No it isn't.
> ***
> Yeah it is
It is not in the Wikipedia article you linked. You claim it is in one
of the links at the bottom of the page. So give me an actual link to
a page which states that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
***
Go find it yourself.
I'm doing several other things.
The number wasn't important, so long as it was significantly less than 20%
of the US federal debt.
But you know that already.
In fact, you know the main point of the post was 100% correct, which is why
you're focusing on this.
> > because I found it there when I posted.
> No you didn't.
> ***
> Yeah, I did
> > I'm not going to dig it up, because you're stating it's incorrect.
> No, the reason you aren't going to dig it up is because you can't.
Willie, when's SSI going cash negative?
> ***
> Willie, go back to jerking off outside windows
> The cite's there.
No it is not. If it were, you would be happy to provide an actual
link and prove both Bill and me wrong.
***
Why, when I already proved him wrong on the actual topic, the canadian debt
to GDP ratio?
<snip still more lies, obfuscating irrelevancies, and non-responsive
bullshit>
There is only one issue here. Whether the Wikipedia article supports
your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
The text of the article doesn't support your claim.
So now you claim that one of the links at the bottom of the page does
support your claim.
I have asked you which link are you talking about. I have asked you
to provide a link to an actual page which states that California's
debt is less than $4 billion.
You have been completely non-responsive to my requests. Instead, you
introduce an obfuscating irrelevancy by trying to shift the discussion
to Social Security.
Once again you have been exposed as a pathological llar with zero
intellectual integrity.
Don't expect any more replies from me until you provide an actual link
to a page which supports your erroneous claim.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
"ramashiva" <rama...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bbd1d264-e6f0-4c27...@u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> Bill and I are still both waiting for you to provide an actual link
> to
> a page stating that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
I have to correct you on this point. I am not waiting. I knew from the
very outset that the "cite" was imaginary. Belding is a compulsive
liar. I am just enjoying watching the idiot flail around like a
drunken monkey.
The issue of the cite was secondary anyway. Even if he did see such a
cite, which of course he didn't, all but the very densest economic
illiterates would have recognized immediately that it couldn't
possibly be true. California's debt and budget woes have been reported
in the media almost nonstop for years. Look at the scale of the error.
It would be like you or me seeing a cite claiming the United States'
GDP was $700 billion, and blindly parroting it here. It's just
wouldn't happen.
Yet you still have time to shotgun the newsgroup with your myriad of
obfuscations.
Beldin, when you finally tire of getting your bitch slapped and clock
cleaned, I would like to get back to the subject of your writing a fiction
book. Y'see, Beldin, I do not think you have the insight and imagination to
author a successful book on fiction. For example, you are one of the
dullest posters on this newsgroup when it comes to attempting "humor".
Nobody laughs at your so-called jokes because they are pathetic and
child-like. I am trying to help you, Beldin. We need to work on expanding
your ability to create and use your imagination. It appears you have very
little imagination, and that's why I am trying to help you develope one.
>
> Beldin, when you finally tire of getting your bitch slapped and clock
> cleaned, I would like to get back to the subject of your writing a fiction
> book. Y'see, Beldin, I do not think you have the insight and imagination
> to
> author a successful book on fiction. For example, you are one of the
> dullest posters on this newsgroup when it comes to attempting "humor".
> Nobody laughs at your so-called jokes because they are pathetic and
> child-like. I am trying to help you, Beldin. We need to work on
> expanding
> your ability to create and use your imagination. It appears you have very
> little imagination, and that's why I am trying to help you develope one.
>
One clearly sees your imagination is highly active.
You imagine you have a clue
Why don't you write a short story or something?
Show me how it's done?
>
>
<snip still more lies, obfuscating irrelevancies, and non-responsive
bullshit>
There is only one issue here. Whether the Wikipedia article supports
your claim that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
***
Oh, fuck no, Willie.
Loads of issues.
SSI at the top of the list.
Why do you keep ducking that?
I mean, apart from you being embarrassingly wrong?
Willie, don't expect a Christmas Card next year.
In the meantime, go away. You have no interest in discussion.
You know I had a cite.
You know my point in general was overwhelmingly correct.
You are therefore locking on something you know is a minor mistake so you
can jerk off to it.
Then you switch to Popinfresh mode and use the Wilma term "shotgunning the
newsgroup"
You must be breaking down mentally, to have the personalities switching like
that
>
> The issue of the cite was secondary anyway. Even if he did see such a
> cite, which of course he didn't, all but the very densest economic
> illiterates would have recognized immediately that it couldn't possibly be
> true. California's debt and budget woes have been reported in the media
> almost nonstop for years. Look at the scale of the error. It would be like
> you or me seeing a cite claiming the United States' GDP was $700 billion,
> and blindly parroting it here. It's just wouldn't happen.
Idiot boy, obviously you can't read.
I gave you a long cite showing the balanced budget requirements for almost
all the states, showing they aren't allowed to borrow money for much of
anything, wheras you have two provinces alone in hock for over half your
federal debt
Damn, you're an idiot
>
>
> Why don't you write a short story or something?
> Show me how it's done?
>
I am not interested in writing short stories, but you are interested in
writing fiction. I tried to get you to activate your imagination by
picturing Ramashiva rubbing his crotch on your girlfriend's neck, while
wearing an outlandish military-like ensemble with a BRIGHT PINK automatic
weapon. Try this, Beldin. See if you can be master of your own mind by
turning your imagination on, AND off, at your whim. The next TWO times you
kiss your girlfriend, whether it be an all-out romantic embrace, or just a
peck on the cheek in the kitchen on your way to work, I want you to count to
yourself, "One Ramashiva, Two Ramashiva", and actually think about the third
kiss in the future. When you kiss your girlfriend for the third time, I
want you to picture Ramashiva rubbing his crotch against the back of your
girlfriend's neck while he grabs her by the ears, while he is wearing a very
bright rainbow-colored Afro wig. And THEN, think about how you are going to
wipe all of those images of Ramashiva out of your mind when you kiss your
girlfriend for the fourth time. That will be the test of whether you have
enough control over your own mind and your own imagination, if you cannot
COMPLETELY erase the image of Ramashiva when you kiss your girlfriend on the
fourth and subsequent times. Try this experiment, Beldin. I believe it
will help you when you finally sit down to start writing that book. Good
luck!
Or he's just a very good troll.
Except for the facts that Bill isn't trolling and that he and
Ramashiva aren't remotely similar, the coincidence is indeed amazing.
That'd make me BARF.
My god, I NEVER want to think about Willie doing ANYONE
I need to go puke now
Christ, Seth, if you can't see the similarities in posting styles and word
choice. you need help
>
> That'd make me BARF.
>
> My god, I NEVER want to think about Willie doing ANYONE
> I need to go puke now
>
>
Y'know what, Beldin? I'm starting to think you don't even have a
girlfriend, and that you are making it up. If you really have a girlfriend,
then why not put her on the "line", the RGP "line". Introduce her to us,
and let us all get to chat with her and see what kind of a nice girl you are
with, or if she comes across as a complete and utter asshole like you do.
And let us know when the next time you kiss her is, so you can verify that
you did the experiment. Thanks.
Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
We find out those results Tuesday.
No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
You could certainly wonder what she sees in me. She tells me I am a kind,
loving man, which is true.
Just because I slap YOU silly doesn't mean I don't treat her like the love
of my life.
I will NEVER think about Wilma Cockwoman at ANY time whilst I am engaging in
physical affection
And that Bill, Paul, Ramashiva, and Jerry "The Savant!" Sturdivant, all of
whom are Ramashiva according to shithead, have all been in RGP homegames.
We've all seen them in the same room at the same time, so to speak.
--
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"ONLY ONE PROBLEM .. The Constitution doesnt have a preamble , but the
declaration of Independence does !! YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP !!
:fuck facts ..i have some hate to spread!!" - Constitution scholar K9Way
giving RGP the business
"BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
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We've seen Kelly too! What a hot bitch SHE is.
(Just for the record, Jason, there's always a possibility I'm kicking Jerry
in the balls with the Willie schtick)
> Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
Who is "we"?
> My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> We find out those results Tuesday.
> No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
debt is less than $4 billion.
You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
sockpuppets.
> You could certainly wonder what she sees in me. She tells me I am a kind,
> loving man, which is true.
> Just because I slap YOU silly doesn't mean I don't treat her like the love
> of my life.
> I will NEVER think about Wilma Cockwoman at ANY time whilst I am engaging in
> physical affection
Per Google Groups, Wilma Cockwoman = Beldin the Sorcerer.
Just go to this link --
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/about
Notice in the top posters lists at the bottom you see a "Wilma
Cockwoman".
Now click on Wilma's name and you get the profile page of Beldin the
Sorcerer.
QED.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
Who is "we"?
***
anyone reading the group.
> My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> We find out those results Tuesday.
> No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
***
Willie, fuck you.
I don't lie.
***
You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
debt is less than $4 billion.
***
Which I did.
And I don't lie
You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
sockpuppets.
***
Willie, everyone knows Popinfresh is your sock puppet
> You could certainly wonder what she sees in me. She tells me I am a kind,
> loving man, which is true.
> Just because I slap YOU silly doesn't mean I don't treat her like the love
> of my life.
> I will NEVER think about Wilma Cockwoman at ANY time whilst I am engaging
> in
> physical affection
Per Google Groups, Wilma Cockwoman = Beldin the Sorcerer.
***
Are you drunk, Wilma?
Just go to this link --
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/about
Notice in the top posters lists at the bottom you see a "Wilma
Cockwoman".
***
Don't see a posters list at all, Wilma.
We all know I coined the term, Wilma
And we all know it refers to you.
I missed the thread that someone set something up on Google.
God knows I'da jumped in.
My E-Mail address is public, shithead.
Anyone could list it as theirs
I state catagorically I never once subscribed to Google Groups as Wilma
Cockwoman.
However Jerry the Shithead started throwing the term around quite a bit.
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:401f3edd-e0f4-4121...@12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 11:18 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
> Who is "we"?
> ***
> anyone reading the group.
Still more evidence that you are totally delusional. You don't speak
for anyone but yourself, yet you constantly claim to speak for the
entire newsgroup.
> > My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> > She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> > We find out those results Tuesday.
> > No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
> No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
> ***
> Willie, fuck you.
> I don't lie.
That is still another lie. I have irrefutably documented hundreds of
your lies.
> You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
> Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
> debt is less than $4 billion.
> ***
> Which I did.
No you did not. You are lying.
> And I don't lie
Yes you do. Your claim that you don't is just another lie.
> You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
> Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
> sockpuppets.
> ***
> Willie, everyone knows Popinfresh is your sock puppet
Still another lie. Why do you keep claiming you speak for the entire
group when you only speak for yourself???
Everyone does NOT know that Popinjay is my sockpuppet. I know FOR
SURE that he is not. Paul knows for SURE that he is not.
> > You could certainly wonder what she sees in me. She tells me I am a kind,
> > loving man, which is true.
> > Just because I slap YOU silly doesn't mean I don't treat her like the love
> > of my life.
> > I will NEVER think about Wilma Cockwoman at ANY time whilst I am engaging
> > in physical affection
> Per Google Groups, Wilma Cockwoman = Beldin the Sorcerer.
> ***
> Are you drunk, Wilma?
> Just go to this link --
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/about
> Notice in the top posters lists at the bottom you see a "Wilma
> Cockwoman".
> ***
> Don't see a posters list at all, Wilma.
It doesn't always show up. That is a glitch in Google Groups. Try
clicking on the link once or twice a day. Sooner or later you will
see it.
> We all know I coined the term, Wilma
> And we all know it refers to you.
Again, who is "we"??? You speak only for yourself, yet you persist in
claiming you speak for the entire newsgroup. This is just more
evidence that you are totally delusional.
> I missed the thread that someone set something up on Google.
You are lying. It was in the thread about you being 11.4% of RGP.
You know you read it. Why lie about it???
> God knows I'da jumped in.
> My E-Mail address is public, shithead.
> Anyone could list it as theirs
But not anyone could register an account with Google Groups with your
email address. As part of the account creation process, they send an
email to the listed email address with a link which you must click on
to confirm that the email address is actually yours.
> I state catagorically I never once subscribed to Google Groups as Wilma
> Cockwoman.
Either you or lying, or someone at Google is fucking with you. Since
you are a confirmed pathological liar, it is much more likely that you
are lying.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hprta4$1su$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Willie, fuck you.
> I don't lie.
You are lying right now. You claimed over and over and over again that
you provided a cite that said California was less than $4 billion
dollars in debt.
You claimed it was in a Wikipedia article you linked to called
"Economy of California." When Mr. Coleman reviewed that article and
informed that you no such claim was made in that article, you made
some vague dodge, telling him to check the links at the bottom of the
page. When it could still not be found, you were asked to specify
which link you were talking about. You then claimed you were too busy
to find it, yet you have spent hours posting to RGP today.
It was only yesterday you supposedly read this claim in that very
short article. It would take any reasonably intelligent person only
moments to locate a patently ridiculous claim derived from a short
article he read yesterday. Do you have some form of brain damage or
other severe memory impairment? Do you really believe that there is
anyone reading this that doesn't see beyond any reasonable doubt that
you are a bald-faced liar? Do you really believe anyone thinks it's a
coincidence that you claim to have seen an absurd statistic in a
footnoted reference work, but just don't have time to find it?
You have utterly destroyed whatever shred of credibility you may have
had left on this newsgroup, which wasn't much anyway.
How many lies are you going to spout?
I stated it seems to be in error, so I'm not going to find it.
Of course there was a cite, you shithead.
Where the hell would the number come from?
Same as all the cites about Ontario and Quebec, you fucking moron, all my
info came from looking shit up.
You think I know offhand just how debt laden all the Canadian provinces are?
We know you're an idiot, Willie.
No need to keep proving it
>
> It was only yesterday you supposedly read this claim in that very short
> article. It would take any reasonably intelligent person only moments to
> locate a patently ridiculous claim derived from a short article he read
> yesterday. Do you have some form of brain damage or other severe memory
> impairment? Do you really believe that there is anyone reading this that
> doesn't see beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a bald-faced liar? Do
> you really believe anyone thinks it's a coincidence that you claim to have
> seen an absurd statistic in a footnoted reference work, but just don't
> have time to find it?
I don't have interest to find it.
And it seems to drive you nuts, which is a plus.
Of course, you don't really care.
All you want to do is divert attention from the documented fact that states
can't borrow in the drunken retard fashion of canadian provinces, and so you
were trying to compare apples and oranges, and got caught.
Own up to it, man. Admit you're a lying scumbag and be done with it
>
> You have utterly destroyed whatever shred of credibility you may have had
> left on this newsgroup, which wasn't much anyway.
No, Bill.
You got caught trying to compare unlike terms, which you do a lot.
You took it in the ass like a bitch
Clean up and call a cab
>
>
>
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:401f3edd-e0f4-4121...@12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 10, 11:18 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
> Who is "we"?
> ***
> anyone reading the group.
Still more evidence that you are totally delusional. You don't speak
for anyone but yourself, yet you constantly claim to speak for the
entire newsgroup.
***
I can assume sanity, Wilma
> > My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> > She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> > We find out those results Tuesday.
> > No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
> No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
> ***
> Willie, fuck you.
> I don't lie.
That is still another lie. I have irrefutably documented hundreds of
your lies.
***
That statement is a lie.
I will bet $200 US that you cannot provide irrefutable documentation posted
to Usenet already by you for 200 or more lies.
You, of course, will not accept the bet
> You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
> Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
> debt is less than $4 billion.
> ***
> Which I did.
No you did not. You are lying.
***
I did.
I am not lying.
***
> And I don't lie
Yes you do. Your claim that you don't is just another lie.
***
That's a circular argument.
Hardly something acceptable as irrefutable proof.
> You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
> Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
> sockpuppets.
> ***
> Willie, everyone knows Popinfresh is your sock puppet
Still another lie. Why do you keep claiming you speak for the entire
group when you only speak for yourself???
***
It's been discussed heavily.
But Willie, he posts what you want him to.
Even if he's a distinct other person, he's STILL your sock puppet.
***
Everyone does NOT know that Popinjay is my sockpuppet. I know FOR
SURE that he is not. Paul knows for SURE that he is not.
***
Willie, tell you what.
You take a polygraph, and bring whomever you're claiming Peepee is too.
You'll both be hooked up and asked if you've ever posted to Usenet under the
names "Ramashiva" and "Paul Popinjay"
If he indicates Yes for Paul and No for Ramishiva, and you indicate the
reverse, I will write you a full and complete apology.
Then we can discuss SSI going cash negative this year.
> > You could certainly wonder what she sees in me. She tells me I am a
> > kind,
> > loving man, which is true.
> > Just because I slap YOU silly doesn't mean I don't treat her like the
> > love
> > of my life.
> > I will NEVER think about Wilma Cockwoman at ANY time whilst I am
> > engaging
> > in physical affection
> Per Google Groups, Wilma Cockwoman = Beldin the Sorcerer.
> ***
> Are you drunk, Wilma?
> Just go to this link --
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.gambling.poker/about
> Notice in the top posters lists at the bottom you see a "Wilma
> Cockwoman".
> ***
> Don't see a posters list at all, Wilma.
It doesn't always show up. That is a glitch in Google Groups. Try
clicking on the link once or twice a day. Sooner or later you will
see it.
***
I got it to work.
Not me.
No idea who signed up, apparently using my e-mail address, but not me.
I checked my in-box... nothing from google groups.
I did ONE post tonight for Clave's benefit to show how I'd sockpuppet, if I
ever were to do so.
I sure as HELL wouldn't use my e-mail address
> We all know I coined the term, Wilma
> And we all know it refers to you.
Again, who is "we"??? You speak only for yourself, yet you persist in
claiming you speak for the entire newsgroup. This is just more
evidence that you are totally delusional.
***
Please, Wilma
People read the threads.
> I missed the thread that someone set something up on Google.
You are lying. It was in the thread about you being 11.4% of RGP.
You know you read it. Why lie about it???
***
Idiot boy, when was my first post to that thread?
Why, it was TODAY!
If I'd SEEN the damn thing, idiot boy, you think I wouldn't have commented
on it?
> God knows I'da jumped in.
> My E-Mail address is public, shithead.
> Anyone could list it as theirs
But not anyone could register an account with Google Groups with your
email address. As part of the account creation process, they send an
email to the listed email address with a link which you must click on
to confirm that the email address is actually yours.
***
I have no e-mail from them.
I have no idea how someone set the account up
Obviously it wasn't used
> I state catagorically I never once subscribed to Google Groups as Wilma
> Cockwoman.
Either you or lying, or someone at Google is fucking with you. Since
you are a confirmed pathological liar, it is much more likely that you
are lying.
***
Again, I offer a $200 wager that THAT statement is false
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:92bd7646-da9f-453c...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 11, 12:22 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:401f3edd-e0f4-4121...@12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 10, 11:18 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
> > Who is "we"?
> > ***
> > anyone reading the group.
> Still more evidence that you are totally delusional. You don't speak
> for anyone but yourself, yet you constantly claim to speak for the
> entire newsgroup.
> ***
> I can assume sanity, Wilma
But you can't assume you speak for anyone but yourself. The fact that
you think you know what others think and can speak for them is further
evidence that you are totally delusional.
> > > My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> > > She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> > > We find out those results Tuesday.
> > > No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
> > No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
> > ***
> > Willie, fuck you.
> > I don't lie.
> That is still another lie. I have irrefutably documented hundreds of
> your lies.
> ***
> That statement is a lie.
Nope. Stone cold truth.
> I will bet $200 US that you cannot provide irrefutable documentation posted
> to Usenet already by you for 200 or more lies.
> You, of course, will not accept the bet
Of course I won't accept the bet, because everytime I have documented
one of your lies, you simply deny you are lying. Witness the
spectacle yesterday of your refusing to admit you were lying about
providing a cite that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
You are a pathological liar and totally delusional, so of course no
one can prove anything to you about anything.
> > You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
> > Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
> > debt is less than $4 billion.
> > ***
> > Which I did.
> No you did not. You are lying.
> ***
> I did.
THEN WHERE THE FUCK IS IT???
> I am not lying.
Yes you are.
> > And I don't lie
> Yes you do. Your claim that you don't is just another lie.
> ***
> That's a circular argument.
Nothing circular about it. You lie, then deny you are lying. That is
pathological.
> Hardly something acceptable as irrefutable proof.
> > You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
> > Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
> > sockpuppets.
> > ***
> > Willie, everyone knows Popinfresh is your sock puppet
> Still another lie. Why do you keep claiming you speak for the entire
> group when you only speak for yourself???
> ***
> It's been discussed heavily.
Yes it has, by you, Susan, and Bea Foroni. That hardly means that
everyone knows Popinjay is my sockpuppet.
> But Willie, he posts what you want him to.
On occasion, yes he has. As I have explained to you many times, Paul
and I had some email correspondence where we decided that it would be
amusing to use various shams and ruses to convince gullible idiots
like you that we were the same person.
Naturally, being the most gullible idiot on the newsgroup, you fell
for it.
> Even if he's a distinct other person, he's STILL your sock puppet.
> Everyone does NOT know that Popinjay is my sockpuppet. I know FOR
> SURE that he is not. Paul knows for SURE that he is not.
> ***
> Willie, tell you what.
> You take a polygraph, and bring whomever you're claiming Peepee is too.
> You'll both be hooked up and asked if you've ever posted to Usenet under the
> names "Ramashiva" and "Paul Popinjay"
> If he indicates Yes for Paul and No for Ramishiva, and you indicate the
> reverse, I will write you a full and complete apology.
You are so hilarious. You know nothing like that is ever going to
happen.
I don't have to prove anything. You are the one making the sockpuppet
assertions. Burden of proof is on you.
Why do you keep offering to make silly bets??? To win the bet, you
would have to prove that you didn't register the "Wilma CockWoman"
account with your email address. Good luck on proving that type of
negative proposition.
Again, the account could only be created by someone who can read your
email. Either that, or someone at Google is fucking with you.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:92bd7646-da9f-453c...@z7g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 11, 12:22 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >news:401f3edd-e0f4-4121...@12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 10, 11:18 pm, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <beldin...@verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Peepee, you're trolling, and we all know it.
> > Who is "we"?
> > ***
> > anyone reading the group.
> Still more evidence that you are totally delusional. You don't speak
> for anyone but yourself, yet you constantly claim to speak for the
> entire newsgroup.
> ***
> I can assume sanity, Wilma
But you can't assume you speak for anyone but yourself. The fact that
you think you know what others think and can speak for them is further
evidence that you are totally delusional.
***
Not remotely.
It is rational to assume rational behavior
> > > My beloved went through lung surgery last year, remember.
> > > She just had a biopsy on her thyroid.
> > > We find out those results Tuesday.
> > > No sane person would ever question whether she's real or not.
> > No sane person would ever believe that anything you say is true.
> > ***
> > Willie, fuck you.
> > I don't lie.
> That is still another lie. I have irrefutably documented hundreds of
> your lies.
> ***
> That statement is a lie.
Nope. Stone cold truth.
> I will bet $200 US that you cannot provide irrefutable documentation
> posted
> to Usenet already by you for 200 or more lies.
> You, of course, will not accept the bet
Of course I won't accept the bet, because everytime I have documented
one of your lies, you simply deny you are lying.
***
Willie, you stated "Irrefutable proof"
If your evidence is so weak and flimsy that my simple denial makes it
worthless, it doesn't qualify.
You lied then.
Case closed.
***
Witness the
spectacle yesterday of your refusing to admit you were lying about
providing a cite that California's debt is less than $4 billion.
***
No lie.
I cited it.
***
You are a pathological liar and totally delusional, so of course no
one can prove anything to you about anything.
***
Wilma, please.
People prove things to me all the time.
YOU'RE the only pathological person here.
> > You have demonstrated many times that you are a pathological liar.
> > Most recently by claiming that you provided a cite that California's
> > debt is less than $4 billion.
> > ***
> > Which I did.
> No you did not. You are lying.
> ***
> I did.
THEN WHERE THE FUCK IS IT???
***
In the wikipedia page
It's WRONG, you and Bill said, and I accept it.
I'm not going to waste my time finding an incorrect cite.
However, taking the highest number Willie 2 alleged STILL proves my point.
See, idiot boy, the big picture here says Willie 2 is still whacked
I don't need to find a cite that's wrong.
> I am not lying.
Yes you are.
***
If you wanna believe something false, go ahead.
You believe so much that's false I feel sorry for you
> > And I don't lie
> Yes you do. Your claim that you don't is just another lie.
> ***
> That's a circular argument.
Nothing circular about it. You lie, then deny you are lying. That is
pathological.
***
I don't lie, then you accuse me of it
That's insane.
> Hardly something acceptable as irrefutable proof.
> > You have demonstrated many times that you are totally delusional.
> > Most recently by claiming that Popinjay and Bill Bradley are my
> > sockpuppets.
> > ***
> > Willie, everyone knows Popinfresh is your sock puppet
> Still another lie. Why do you keep claiming you speak for the entire
> group when you only speak for yourself???
> ***
> It's been discussed heavily.
Yes it has, by you, Susan, and Bea Foroni. That hardly means that
everyone knows Popinjay is my sockpuppet.
***
And Will and others.
> But Willie, he posts what you want him to.
On occasion, yes he has. As I have explained to you many times, Paul
and I had some email correspondence where we decided that it would be
amusing to use various shams and ruses to convince gullible idiots
like you that we were the same person.
***
No, you made Popinfresh your sock puppet.
Fact, Willie, that's what a sock puppet is.
***
Naturally, being the most gullible idiot on the newsgroup, you fell
for it.
***
Willie, please.
You two were sharing a single brain cell a long time ago.
It's been noted
> Even if he's a distinct other person, he's STILL your sock puppet.
> Everyone does NOT know that Popinjay is my sockpuppet. I know FOR
> SURE that he is not. Paul knows for SURE that he is not.
> ***
> Willie, tell you what.
> You take a polygraph, and bring whomever you're claiming Peepee is too.
> You'll both be hooked up and asked if you've ever posted to Usenet under
> the
> names "Ramashiva" and "Paul Popinjay"
> If he indicates Yes for Paul and No for Ramishiva, and you indicate the
> reverse, I will write you a full and complete apology.
You are so hilarious. You know nothing like that is ever going to
happen.
***
Of course not, you'd fail it completely
I don't have to prove anything. You are the one making the sockpuppet
assertions. Burden of proof is on you.
***
I don't have to prove it.
I know it.
There are things you can know and not prove.
But I did offer to back my side up with the risk of public humiliation.
And you turn tail and run, as usual
> Then we can discuss SSI going cash negative this year.
Wilma, why don't you want to discuss SSI going cash negative this year?
Whassamatter?
***
Wow, you're drunk twice.
It's OBVIOUS the statement is your idiocy about me being a confirmed
pathalogical liar.
Wilma, seek professional help
***
Again, the account could only be created by someone who can read your
email. Either that, or someone at Google is fucking with you.
***
I don't know anything about google groups
But I'll find out
<snip still more pathological lies and delusional assertions>
Let's see. It is now 2:30 am PDT. You first posted to this thread at
8:10 am PDT.
That means you have sat at your computer for over 18 hours posting to
this thread and others.
Yet you steadfastly refuse to provide the cite you claim you made
regarding California's debt.
Your refusal to provide the cite you claim you made is pretty clear
evidence that you are simply lying.
You never provided such a cite.
You know it.
I know it.
You know I know it.
Yet you continue to lie.
Good night, Wilma.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
<snip still more pathological lies and delusional assertions>
Let's see. It is now 2:30 am PDT. You first posted to this thread at
8:10 am PDT.
That means you have sat at your computer for over 18 hours posting to
this thread and others.
***
It does?
How fucked in the head are you?
I'll bet you $100,000 that statement is a lie, Willie
>
> I'll bet you $100,000 that statement is a lie, Willie
>
Bet you any amount of money, as long as we keep it under 4 billion.
> Willie, tell you what.
> You take a polygraph, and bring whomever you're claiming Peepee is too.
>
> You'll both be hooked up and asked if you've ever posted to Usenet under
> the names "Ramashiva" and "Paul Popinjay"
>
> If he indicates Yes for Paul and No for Ramishiva, and you indicate the
> reverse, I will write you a full and complete apology.
>
As I have stated before, there were two times in my life where I requested a
polygraph, both times I was innocent, yet both times failing and "showing
deception". Each polygraph exam was by different examiners, and over a year
apart, completely separate of one another. Please do not tell me that they
are infallible, I know as a fact they do not work.
What was a tip off to me was when the examiner had me pick a card and then
went through each of ten cards, asking me each time if it was the card I
picked, and I was supposed to answer "NO" to each card. He wrote down some
scribbling, pretended to study the results, and then told me my card,
correctly, of course. Oh SURE, RIGHT! Like I've never seen that trick
before. I can't believe they pulled that shit with me, and at taxpayers
money too. No wonder we're in debt $4 billion.
Bet on what, Peepee?
>
>
Yeah, Peepee.
You're real innocent.
> What was a tip off to me was when the examiner had me pick a card and then
> went through each of ten cards, asking me each time if it was the card I
> picked, and I was supposed to answer "NO" to each card. He wrote down
> some scribbling, pretended to study the results, and then told me my card,
> correctly, of course. Oh SURE, RIGHT! Like I've never seen that trick
> before. I can't believe they pulled that shit with me, and at taxpayers
> money too. No wonder we're in debt $4 billion.
They tell me it's worse.
Nowhere near as bad as Ontario, of course>
>
> Bet on what, Peepee?
>
OMFG! You started shotgunning this newsgroup at 2:00 yesterday afternoon,
and you are STILL going strong like the Energizer Bunny. You are the MAN,
Beldin! I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy.
You fucking freak! Have you no life at all? What does your make-believe
girlfriend think of you spending all your spare time on the weekend arguing
in vain while BillB and Ramashiva document your patent dishonesty? In
between the time you started posting this latest flood and the time you just
replied to my post this morning, I have already been to a casino and played
4000 hands of video poker, plus I have played numerous SNGs online, plus I
have gotten several hours of restful sleep. All this while you have been
glued to your computer's keyboard, and eating Cheetos. Congrats, Beldin,
you are now officially more creepy than Clave.
Ok, you're drunk
I wasn't anywhere near the newsgroup at 2pm, either your time or mine
>
> You fucking freak! Have you no life at all? What does your make-believe
> girlfriend think of you spending all your spare time on the weekend
> arguing in vain while BillB and Ramashiva document your patent dishonesty?
Peepee, you're drunk and delusional.
In
> between the time you started posting this latest flood and the time you
> just replied to my post this morning, I have already been to a casino and
> played 4000 hands of video poker, plus I have played numerous SNGs online,
> plus I have gotten several hours of restful sleep. All this while you
> have been glued to your computer's keyboard, and eating Cheetos.
> Congrats, Beldin, you are now officially more creepy than Clave.
Peepee, I don't eat Cheetos
Since yesterday morning, I took the girl dog to the vet, got Pizza, watched
The Matrix with my darling, slept for 5-6 hours, walked both dogs, spent
time playing a bunch of games with her on Pogo. Do you Pogo Peepee? They
have Battleship. What fun. Anyway....
I tucked her in, and smooched her.
Then I played 1 tournament last night on stars
Sure, I checked RGP while doing some of that, but I was nowhere near the
computer for most of it.
Now Peepee, I'll bet you can figure out when I took the dog to the vet, AND
what time we ate and started the movie.... and when I slept.
Use that skull of yours, Peepee
>
>
I was in Ontario for one of the polygraph exams. How did you know that?
Apparently you have researched my personal life. How did you uncover this
fact which I am sure I never revealed? Have you hired a private
investigator to check me out? How creepy is that? You better hope I never
open my front door to see some faggot with a 30-inch waist. I am saving and
documenting your newsgroup posts and your chat from the RGP homegames and
believe me no jury in the world will convict me for acting in self defense
of my person and property. This is about the last straw from you, Beldin, I
will not tolerate any threat from you involving my personal life. I am
going to put this on file with the authorities.
>
> Since yesterday morning, I took the girl dog to the vet, got Pizza,
> watched The Matrix with my darling, slept for 5-6 hours, walked both dogs,
> spent time playing a bunch of games with her on Pogo. Do you Pogo Peepee?
So then if you are going to stalk me and track me and what time I had to
spend in Ontario, I guess I can use this information to give to the
authorities in case you decide to disrupt my personal life. The town you
post from cannot have that many vets that are close to a pizza parlor and
where some geek with a 30-inch waist walks two scrawny little sissy poodles.
You cannot do me any harm and get away with it, Beldin, prisons are full of
maniacs just like you who thought they were too smart to be captured.
> They have Battleship. What fun. Anyway....
> I tucked her in, and smooched her.
>
So are you going to report to us now, after you smooched her, as to the
experiment you are performing? Did you do as you are supposed to when you
smooch her, and imagine an image of a giant hulk of a Ramashiva, wearing
Army fatigues, carrying a BRIGHT PINK automatic weapon, wearing a bright
rainbow-colored wig, and grinding his crotch on the back of your
girlfriend's neck while holding her by the ears? Now the next thing I want
you to do is the next time you kiss your girlfriend, try NOT to think of
this absurd image of Ramashiva rubbing his crotch on your girlfriend's neck.
If you have enough mental discipline to keep that image out of your mind
when kissing her next time, then you will be a master of your own mind
control, and ready to write that book you were talking about. Good luck!
Who said I did?
> Apparently you have researched my personal life.
How do you research a fictional usenet persona?
How did you uncover this
> fact which I am sure I never revealed? Have you hired a private
> investigator to check me out? How creepy is that? You better hope I
> never open my front door to see some faggot with a 30-inch waist.
Well, if you do, good luck.
Wait, why would you tell me about something like that?
I'm sure any fag you invite over won't be anyone I'd know
I am saving and
> documenting your newsgroup posts and your chat from the RGP homegames and
> believe me no jury in the world will convict me for acting in self defense
> of my person and property. This is about the last straw from you, Beldin,
> I will not tolerate any threat from you involving my personal life. I am
> going to put this on file with the authorities.
Put what, exactly?
I'm confused Peepee.
It's sorta creepy you talking about thin gay men
>
>
We don't employ a gay dogwalker, Peepee. I do it myself.
My dogs aren't poodles either.
They're MSPCA rescues.
>
>
>> They have Battleship. What fun. Anyway....
>> I tucked her in, and smooched her.
>>
>
>
> So are you going to report to us now, after you smooched her, as to the
> experiment you are performing?
Peepee, stop talking about your fantasy man. JUST STOP, ok?
It's sick
You just MENTIONED it, you fucking moron. Can't you see your own reply at
the top of this post? In response to my talking about how I failed two
separate polygraphs and how I think they are rigged, you SAID "Nowhere near
as bad as Ontario...." Is that what you wrote verbatim? Yes, or no? Did I
ever mention Ontario in any of my previous posts? Yes, or no? Yet somehow
you bring up Ontario. Fuck you, Beldin, you better just stay away from me,
that's all I'm saying.
>
>
> Peepee, stop talking about your fantasy man. JUST STOP, ok?
>
> It's sick
Beldin, JUST STOP, thinking about a huge hulk with a rainbow-colored wig
grinding his crotch on your girlfriend's neck every time you kiss her. I do
not want that image to spoil the special relationship you enjoy with her.
And don't you imagine him forcing you down and taking your anus, either
You'll never sleep again if you do
>
>
If so, why would I try and get near you?
>
>
Oh sure, like I'm going to believe anything you say after you have
demonstrated ad nauseum in this very thread what a habitual liar you are.
Yes, Beldin, the fact is, that you did indeed think about Ramashiva grinding
his crotch on your girlfriend's neck while you kissed her. The image of
him, being 280 pounds, wearing a rainbow-colored wig, and not having taken a
shower in days after binging on Red Bull, Diet Coke, and Camel non-filters,
and grinding his smelly crotch on your petite girlfriend's neck, will now
never escape your conscious thought, each and every time you kiss her, for
the rest of the time that you are together, or until she discovers what a
loser you are and leaves you for a real man.
Peepee, you disgust me
Did you get astroglide for your big date?
>
>
> Peepee, I'm convinced you're fictional.
>
> If so, why would I try and get near you?
>
Then why did you bring up Ontario, fuck face? You're busted, cold, Beldin.
No one but you knew I was in Ontario for one of the previously mentioned
polygraph exams. I never mentioned it, so why bring up Ontario if you have
not hired a private investigator to research my personal life. Just show up
on my door step someday, Beldin, I'll wish you Merry Christmas, believe me.
Just remember, Beldin. Next time the lights turn low, and you and your
girlfriend are cuddling romantically, just remember, Ramashiva, 280 pounds,
rainbow-colored wig, no shower, crotch on her neck. Enjoy!
> Just remember, Beldin. Next time the lights turn low, and you and your
> girlfriend are cuddling romantically, just remember, Ramashiva, 280 pounds,
> rainbow-colored wig, no shower, crotch on her neck. Enjoy!
Paul, leave Beldingbat alone and let him get some sleep. He has been
posting for 23 hours straight.
He needs to get some sleep so he can go to work tonight at Best Buy,
where he is the graveyard relief stock clerk.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
I'm a warm guy, actually.
> No one but you knew I was in Ontario for one of the previously mentioned
> polygraph exams. I never mentioned it, so why bring up Ontario if you
> have not hired a private investigator to research my personal life. Just
> show up on my door step someday, Beldin, I'll wish you Merry Christmas,
> believe me.
Peepee, you're cracking up
>
It ain't ours, though
>
> Just remember, Beldin. Next time the lights turn low, and you and your
> girlfriend are cuddling romantically, just remember, Ramashiva, 280
> pounds,
> rainbow-colored wig, no shower, crotch on her neck. Enjoy!
Paul, leave Beldingbat alone and let him get some sleep. He has been
posting for 23 hours straight.
***
Some people need to read post timestamps
***
He needs to get some sleep so he can go to work tonight at Best Buy,
where he is the graveyard relief stock clerk.
***
100,000 dollars US of mine against $1000 US of yours that you lied, Wilma
Why don't you just answer my question? This is a bad habit you've
developed, avoiding questions that people specifically ask you. Why did you
bring up Ontario? I'm serious. What was the significance of bringing up
Ontario? But before you answer, go get some sleep so when you wake up
you'll be nice and refreshed to think up more lies. By the way, what is the
IPad going for at Best Buy? Thanks.
> "ramashiva" <ramash...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:0dedd2fb-b7c4-4136...@c36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 11, 7:13 am, "Paul Popinjay" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Just remember, Beldin. Next time the lights turn low, and you and your
> > girlfriend are cuddling romantically, just remember, Ramashiva, 280
> > pounds, rainbow-colored wig, no shower, crotch on her neck. Enjoy!
> Paul, leave Beldingbat alone and let him get some sleep. He has been
> posting for 23 hours straight.
> ***
> Some people need to read post timestamps
You started posting in this thread at 8:10 am PDT yesterday. At the
time I wrote that, your last post in this thread was at 7:10 am PDT.
That's 23 hours.
You have now been posting to this thread for over 24 hours straight.
You are one sick fuck.
> He needs to get some sleep so he can go to work tonight at Best Buy,
> where he is the graveyard relief stock clerk.
> ***
> 100,000 dollars US of mine against $1000 US of yours that you lied, Wilma
I am sure I am going to make a bet with an anonymous screen name.
But if you insist, deposit $100,000 with Popinjay, then I will deposit
$1000.
Then Popinjay will decide whether I am lying.
Take it or leave it, numbnuts.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
> Why don't you just answer my question? This is a bad habit you've
> developed, avoiding questions that people specifically ask you. Why did you
> bring up Ontario? I'm serious. What was the significance of bringing up
> Ontario? But before you answer, go get some sleep so when you wake up
> you'll be nice and refreshed to think up more lies. By the way, what is the
> IPad going for at Best Buy? Thanks.
I am sure Beldingbat can get you the employee discount at Best Buy if
you ask him nicely.
Congratulations, Bill! Another 100 post thread! It's easy when
Beldingbat gets his nose open.
William Coleman (ramashiva)