Donald Trump Is In Serious Trouble . . .

[Janie Velencia]

. . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......

And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.

Losing the first presidential debate was bad for Trump.

Donald Trump dropped in the polls following the first presidential
debate, allowing Hillary Clinton to open up a significant lead. History
suggests that the Republican nominee will not be able to recover.

Heading into their first meeting, Hillary Clinton led Trump by just 1.6
points. That narrow margin meant Trump had a chance to shift the race in
his favor. Instead, he slumped by a significant 3 points.

That tumble in the polls put Trump in an especially bad spot: History
suggests that the candidate who is ahead in the polls after the first
debate will end up winning the election. A week after their meeting,
Clinton was ahead by nearly 5 points.

The HuffPost Pollster national chart, which aggregates public polls,
finds him now trailing Clinton by 6 points ? 41 percent to 47 percent.
And the HuffPost Pollster forecast model places Clinton’s odds of
winning the presidency at 81.9 percent and Trump’s at 17.8 percent.

Of course, something dramatic could still happen. But right now, Clinton
looks to be on the path to victory.

Janie Velencia
Associate Polling Editor

<some parts snipped>
full article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-post-debate-polls_us_57f3bd87e4b0d0e1a9a9b3d4

[Irish Ranger]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia wrote:
> . . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......
>
> And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.

It is the vanishing American middle class that is in danger and if Hillary wins'
their chances of recovery are beyond bleak. They are nearly non-existent.

Irish Mike

[Bea Foroni]

How has T rump ever helped the middle class? Stiffing the contractors? Hiring illegals and stiffing them? Having suppliers procure from foreign countries? Dicking investors in his casinos? Pray tell, show me one example where T rump has done anything for the middle class?

[Travel]

Hired them and paid them a salary.

[Travel]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia wrote:

Trump up +1 today on Rasmussen, and it doesn't include the massive Pence victory yet.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct05

Rasmussen had Hillary up by +5 three days ago (that was by more than some of the MSM polls).

The debate bounce wore-off, just like the convention bounce.

How anyone can seriously believe that it's over for Trump with a month to go is baffling. It's just dumb-assed, cheeleading mentality.

[Clave]

"Travel" <trave...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:12cd297a-28e5-4f03...@googlegroups.com...

Well, hired them at least.

[Janie Velencia]

Actually Rasmussen has such a right leaning bias that it has been
discussed in staff meetings to not include it in the aggregate averages.
In the end it was decided to keep it in because the poll aggregate has
proven to be a more accurate predictor than any single poll. (The only
poll we don’t include is the extreme outlier, LA Times/Dornsife poll.)
We actually include a much larger number of pollsters than Real Clear
Politics.

I think you’re mistaken that Rasmussen had Clinton +5 three days ago. I
think it was +3. Rasmussen jumps around a lot from poll to poll which
means it’s results are less reliable.

Our staff mostly agreed that Mike Pence did win the Vice Presidential
debate but we also agreed that it was unlikely to move the polls much,
if at all.

Thinking that Mr. Trump has much more than a 20% chance to win while
being 4 to 6 points behind in the poll averages with one month to go
(many states are already voting) – THAT would be just a dumb-assed
cheerleading mentality.

Janie Velencia

[Bill Vanek]

This can only be the asshole Joe Camel. Why don't you pick a fucking
name, and stick with it? Do you hate yourself so much that you have to
keep assuming the identity of others?

[VegasJerry]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:52:35 AM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:

Only in your weak mind. The slow decline in the middle class is the direct results of Congressional Republican Obstructionism. From Union rights to civil rights to minimum wage to blocking jobs bills and infrastructure rebuilding. Your minimum reasoning and logic are “actually” non-existent.

Jerry (pointing that out again) ‘n Vegas


> Irish Mike

[Irish Ranger]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:52:35 AM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia wrote:
> > > . . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......
> > >
> > > And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.
>
> > > It is the vanishing American middle class that is in danger and if Hillary wins'
> > > their chances of recovery are beyond bleak. They are nearly non-existent.
>
> Only in your weak mind. The slow decline in the middle class is the direct results of Congressional Republican Obstructionism.

LOL! What a dishonest pile of left wing political crap! Harry Reid and the Democrat controlled Senate
blocked 380 Republican Congressional Bills! These 380 Bills were never even allowed to reach the Senate floor. There was no debate, no discussion and no vote. Harry Reid killed every one of them. Then Obama would whine to his sycophant kool aid drinkers that those terrible Republicans never offered him any ideas or suggestions!

Irish Mike

[Clave]

"Irish Ranger" <ace...@att.net> wrote in message
news:98d5e479-c960-4f7a...@googlegroups.com...

> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:52:35 AM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia
>> > wrote:
>> > > . . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......
>> > >
>> > > And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.
>>
>> > > It is the vanishing American middle class that is in danger and if
>> > > Hillary wins'
>> > > their chances of recovery are beyond bleak. They are nearly
>> > > non-existent.
>>
>> Only in your weak mind. The slow decline in the middle class is the
>> direct results of Congressional Republican Obstructionism.
>
> LOL! What a dishonest pile of left wing political crap! Harry Reid and
> the Democrat controlled Senate
> blocked 380 Republican Congressional Bills! These 380 Bills were never
> even allowed to reach the Senate floor.

How many were legitimate jobs bills?

None many, that's how.

[popinjay]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:51:41 PM UTC-7, Clave wrote:


>
> How many were legitimate jobs bills?
>
> None many, that's how.

English, mutherfucker, do you speak it?

Real jobs don't come from bills, you moron.

[popinjay]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:


>
> This can only be the asshole Joe Camel. Why don't you pick a fucking
> name, and stick with it? Do you hate yourself so much that you have to
> keep assuming the identity of others?

I personally do not think it is Joe. First, it doesn't sound like Joe, and I see no motivation for him to post this under another name. I think if he wanted to post something of this nature he would just post under "Joe Camel". I really don't think it's Joe, I think it's someone else.

By the way, if I were you, I wouldn't encourage him to pick another name. If you get my drift.

[risky biz]

Wha-ha-ha.

Sorry, Paul.

That won't affect my RGP retirement pension, will it?

[risky biz]

380 different Ben-gazzz-eee committees should have at least been tried on a trial basis.

[risky biz]

You know, Janie, if you want to see some dumb-assed cheerleading mentality just hang around RGP for a while.

[risky biz]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-7, Bill Vanek wrote:

See what I mean, Janie?

[Clave]

"Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message news:...

>
> "Irish Ranger" <ace...@att.net> wrote in message
> news:98d5e479-c960-4f7a...@googlegroups.com...

>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:

>>> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:52:35 AM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:
>>> > On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > . . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......
>>> > >
>>> > > And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.
>>>

>>> > > It is the vanishing American middle class that is in danger and if
>>> > > Hillary wins'
>>> > > their chances of recovery are beyond bleak. They are nearly
>>> > > non-existent.
>>>
>>> Only in your weak mind. The slow decline in the middle class is the
>>> direct results of Congressional Republican Obstructionism.
>>
>> LOL! What a dishonest pile of left wing political crap! Harry Reid and
>> the Democrat controlled Senate
>> blocked 380 Republican Congressional Bills! These 380 Bills were never
>> even allowed to reach the Senate floor.
>

> How many were legitimate jobs bills?
>
> None many, that's how.

Oh yeah -- a simple majority in the Senate doesn't mean "control" -- welcome
to our country.

[VegasJerry]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:37:35 PM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 11:52:35 AM UTC-7, Irish Ranger wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-4, Janie Velencia wrote:
> > > > . . . judging From Post-Debate Polls.......
> > > >
> > > > And history suggests his chances for recovery are bleak.
> >
> > > > It is the vanishing American middle class that is in danger and if Hillary wins'
> > > > their chances of recovery are beyond bleak. They are nearly non-existent.

> > Only in your weak mind. The slow decline in the middle class is the direct results
> > of Congressional Republican Obstructionism.

> LOL! (Nervous laughter)

> What a dishonest pile of left wing political crap!

Then you should have no trouble showing us where it’s wrong…

> Harry Reid and the Democrat controlled Senate blocked 380 Republican Congressional Bills!

Whoa! WhereTF you going? Those were Republican bills that had the rider to get rid of Obamacare.
Now get back to the fucking subject…

Jerry ‘n Vegas

[VegasJerry]

Yea, actually they do...

[popinjay]

You can't show me that they do.

[Bea Foroni]

All those NASA jobs. All those jobs that came with the building of Hoover Dam were instrumental in making Las Vegas Las Vegas. The federal funds that funded the interstate highway system made the US very competitive in the world market. My favorite government job is the Panama Canal, a job that several private enterprises failed to do, and it changed the face of international trade. And let us not forget the public school system, a program that forced the country to speak one language and hold the same values.

Government allows humanity to create things that humans alone can not.

[newreal...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 4:54:04 PM UTC-7, Janie Velencia wrote:

When the voices in your head start arguing with each other, you're not in a "staff meeting," idiot.

[da pickle]

Do we know anyone in Slater, Iowa?

[Bradley K. Sherman]

Travel <trave...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Trump up +1 today on Rasmussen, and it doesn't include the massive Pence
>victory yet.
>
>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct05
>

Live by the Rasmussen, Die by the Rasumussen:
|
| The latest Rasmussen Reports White House Watch national
| telephone and online survey finds Clinton with 43% support
| among Likely U.S. Voters and Trump with 42%
| ...
<http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct07>

--bks

[Bradley K. Sherman]

>Travel <trave...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...

>>Trump up +1 today on Rasmussen, and it doesn't include the massive Pence
>>victory yet.

>> ...

Rasumussen says:
|
| Republican nominee Donald Trump has been clobbered in the
| White House Watch survey following the release of a video
| showing him discussing women in graphic sexual detail.
|
| Rasmussen Reports' latest national telephone and online
| survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds that Democrat Hillary
| Clinton has now jumped out to a seven-point lead - 45% to
| 38% - over Trump.
| ...
<http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct10>

--bks

[Travel]

Dumb-assed is merely quoting poll averages (that would be you) and thinking that that is a substitute for actual election analysis.

Trump's ahead in Ohio, only down 3 in North Carolina and Florida (and that's from limited and questionable MSM polling),

Today, Trump surged to only 3 down in New Hampshire.

If Trump takes Ohio, Iowa (where he's ahead), N.C., Florida, Utah (ahead) and Arizona (ahead), he hust needs Nevada and New Hampshire to win.

Even easier if he picks-off Wisconsin (Walker backs Trump), or Michigan (no state needs jobs more than Michigan/(Detroit).

With another debate to go, you shouldn't doing the smug, victory dance thing.

Remember "Brexit."

[Travel]

Lol, do you check your own links, dumb-ass. The top line states Trump up +2 in the latest poll. You pasted Monday's poll.

[Bradley K. Sherman]

| ...
| He's made America vile. He's got angel-voiced children
| yelling "bitch" and flipping the bird at rallies. He's got
| young athletes chanting "build a wall" at Latino kids on
| the other side. He's made it O.K. to bully and fat-shame.
| He's normalized perversion, bragging about how an aging man
| with his sense of entitlement can walk in on naked women.
|
| Here's his lesson for young minds: If you're rich and
| boorish enough, you can get away with anything. Get away
| with sexual assault. Get away with not paying taxes. Get
| away with never telling the truth. Get away with flirting
| with treason. Get away with stiffing people who work for
| you, while you take yours. Get away with mocking the
| disabled, veterans and families of war heroes.
| ...
<http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/opinion/burning-down-the-house.html>

--bks

Too late to release your tax returns now, Donny-boy.

[Bradley K. Sherman]

Travel <trave...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...

>Lol, do you check your own links, dumb-ass. The top line states Trump up
>+2 in the latest poll. You pasted Monday's poll.

I think you mean, Clinton +2:
<http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct17>

--bks

+11 in new CBS poll, but sticking to Rasmussen so that Travel's
head doesn't explode.