Phil Ivey, Professional Dicer
mo_charles
mo_charles
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K9way
> wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
>
> mo_charles
he has actually been barred for playing "too high "
it wont take 20 years if he keeps it up
dice is worse than crack
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
mo_charles
>
> it wont take 20 years if he keeps it up
> dice is worse than crack
if rolling dice for 300k a pop doesn't pan out, he's always got blackjack,
sports gambling, and a hell of an entourage to pull him out of his slump.
mo_charles
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K9way
> > > wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
> >
> > he has actually been barred for playing "too high "
> > it wont take 20 years if he keeps it up
> > dice is worse than crack
>
> if rolling dice for 300k a pop doesn't pan out, he's always got blackjack,
> sports gambling, and a hell of an entourage to pull him out of his slump.
>
> mo_charles
yes ..if he got broke ..i am sure he could get a 'steak"
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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Blackwood
> On Nov 4 2009 11:28 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > > > wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
> > >
> > > he has actually been barred for playing "too high "
> > > it wont take 20 years if he keeps it up
> > > dice is worse than crack
> >
> > if rolling dice for 300k a pop doesn't pan out, he's always got blackjack,
> > sports gambling, and a hell of an entourage to pull him out of his slump.
> >
> > mo_charles
>
> yes ..if he got broke ..i am sure he could get a 'steak"
>
>
> Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
> does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
Phil Ivey is never going broke. He owns a piece of Full Tilt. He has won
so much money playing poker that it would offset his other gambling if
that ever went bad. He is invested in multiple companies and other
ventures. The dude is worth 150 million+. He will be OK for a long long
time.
Proud to be one of the 69,000,000+ Americans who voted for Barack Hussein
Obama. Scoreboard, mutha fuckas.
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Blackwood
> On Nov 4 2009 11:47 AM, K9way wrote:
>
> > On Nov 4 2009 11:28 AM, mo_charles wrote:
> >
> > > > > wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
> > > >
> > > > he has actually been barred for playing "too high "
> > > > it wont take 20 years if he keeps it up
> > > > dice is worse than crack
> > >
> > > if rolling dice for 300k a pop doesn't pan out, he's always got
blackjack,
> > > sports gambling, and a hell of an entourage to pull him out of his slump.
> > >
> > > mo_charles
> >
> > yes ..if he got broke ..i am sure he could get a 'steak"
> >
> >
> > Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
> > does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
>
> Phil Ivey is never going broke. He owns a piece of Full Tilt. He has won
> so much money playing poker that it would offset his other gambling if
> that ever went bad. He is invested in multiple companies and other
> ventures. The dude is worth 150 million+. He will be OK for a long long
> time.
>
> Proud to be one of the 69,000,000+ Americans who voted for Barack Hussein
> Obama. Scoreboard, mutha fuckas.
I actually found this link after I wrote my response. I guess I made a
pretty good guess.
www.philiveyrules.com/other-players/phil-iveys-net-worth/
Basically, if Phil Ivey is worth 120 million and he rolls dice at 30k a
clip that is like someone worth 100k rolling dice at 25 bucks a clip.
Proud to be one of the 69,000,000+ Americans who voted for Barack Hussein
Obama. Scoreboard, mutha fuckas.
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K9way
You really dont undestand much about "gambling " and how hard people will
search for ways to fail.
What do you think happens when someone who wins at everything finally
finds something he cane beat ?
I can name you 20-30 of the best in the business who got broke .
That includes Helmuth , Chan , baldwin , keller , Pearson ( not JC but
Puggy ) Bones Doman ,
Sextron sold his share of party Poker for 16 million and he is broke !! he
has been a sports sucker his whole life .
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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Irish Mike
> wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
>
> mo_charles
What is the story? Is there a clip or link?
Irish Mike
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Blackwood
I guess you speak from experience. I've been a winner my whole life. I
guess some people have no self control. I'm interested in how you know
that all of these people are broke. Please share details.
Proud to be one of the 69,000,000+ Americans who voted for Barack Hussein
Obama. Scoreboard, mutha fuckas.
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Raider Fan
> On Nov 4 2009 10:03 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
> >
> > mo_charles
>
> What is the story? Is there a clip or link?
>
> Irish Mike
ESPN had him on E:60 last night. It was fun to watch. He goes to these
casinos where they treat him like a king.
"This has got to be some sports-related crap, that's all Raiderfan gives a
fuck about." -- Paul Popinjay 2/27/09
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K9way
> On Nov 4 2009 10:03 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
> > wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
> >
> > mo_charles
>
> What is the story? Is there a clip or link?
>
> Irish Mike
I posted over 2 years ago that Ivey was developing and had a a major
"jones" for shooting dice .
He is HUUUUGE loser to dice !!
The OP was correct .. he will get broke if he doesnt shake the habit .
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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K9way
> > You really dont undestand much about "gambling " and how hard people will
> > search for ways to fail.
> >
> > What do you think happens when someone who wins at everything finally
> > finds something he cane beat ?
> >
> > I can name you 20-30 of the best in the business who got broke .
> >
> > That includes Helmuth , Chan , baldwin , keller , Pearson ( not JC but
> > Puggy ) Bones Doman ,
> >
> > Sextron sold his share of party Poker for 16 million and he is broke !! he
> > has been a sports sucker his whole life .
> >
> >
> > Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
> > does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
>
> I guess you speak from experience. I've been a winner my whole life. I
> guess some people have no self control. I'm interested in how you know
> that all of these people are broke. Please share details.
>
Cheap shot nioted !
yes i have had several major ups and downs . I wasnt referring to myself .
gambling and poker has been littered with people who strive for
destruction .
Alan Elrod owned the rights to the original "Gone in 60 Seconds " movie
he came to the satrdust and began his "poker career" . His wife would
bring food for the dealers and he was the nicest guy in the world . 6
months later he was a major league sleezbag . He sought out destruction
and it ruined him .
Guacamole would win a tournament .. pay off what he owed , get 2 hookers
and a motel room and come out weeks later ..BROKE.
Johhny Chan was a bum for most of the years surrounding his WSOP win ,
both before and after . .. at one time he was a "host "' at the Stardust .
he didnt last 6 weeks , as he was such an asshole .
gambling and the psychology around it is littered with these kinds of
people .
And by the way .. what have you won ?
What do you play ?
how much do you win ?
how long have you been winning ?
it is much easier to take those kinds of cheap shots than it is to
actually be there and do it .
I know .. I have done both !!
> Proud to be one of the 69,000,000+ Americans who voted for Barack Hussein
> Obama. Scoreboard, mutha fuckas.
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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K9way
> Jack keller won the WSOP .. he ended up moving with his wife back to tunica.
his family was into pawn shops . At one time he was worth a fortune .. His
wife was an absolute "saint "
before it was over jack left his wife and moved in with a crack whore and
later died in Tunica
dead broke !!
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mary in vegas
jeeze...i wondered why i saw mike sexton walking thru the suncoast a few
weeks ago...
now i know...he's broke ::)
mary in vegas
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Jerry Sturdivant
"mary in vegas"
>> Sextron sold his share of party Poker for
>> 16 million and he is broke !! he has been
>> a sports sucker his whole life .
> jeeze...i wondered why i saw mike sexton walking
> thru the suncoast a few weeks ago... now i
> know...he's broke ::)
"Broke" must be a relative thing. I saw Sexton, his wife, kids and extended
family at our local, Original Pancake House, a few weeks ago.
Jerry (over easy) 'n Vegas
- A pessimist smells the flowers and looks for the casket.
Jerry Sturdivant
"K9way"
> He is HUUUUGE loser to dice !!
>
> The OP was correct .. he will get broke if
> he doesnt shake the habit .
Shooting dice is, 'pleasure gambling.' You know the odds are slightly
against you, but like playing a slot machine, you do it just for the fun of
it.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Filled with wholesome goodness...
Ramashiva Jr
gambling/sleeze lifestyle. Seems he broke free and is back into the
pool.
Jason Pawloski
> "K9way"
>
>
>
> > He is HUUUUGE loser to dice !!
> >
> > The OP was correct .. he will get broke if
> > he doesnt shake the habit .
>
> Shooting dice is, 'pleasure gambling.' You know the odds are slightly
> against you, but like playing a slot machine, you do it just for the fun of
> it.
>
It is theoretically possible to advantage play slots, but the details make
it such that to do it practically is extremely difficult and making a
living off of it is likely impossible.
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K9way
he is gay and so is travolta
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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K9way
> On Nov 4 2009 3:05 PM, Jerry Sturdivant wrote:
>
> > "K9way"
> >
> >
> >
> > > He is HUUUUGE loser to dice !!
> > >
> > > The OP was correct .. he will get broke if
> > > he doesnt shake the habit .
> >
> > Shooting dice is, 'pleasure gambling.' You know the odds are slightly
> > against you, but like playing a slot machine, you do it just for the fun
of
> > it.
> >
>
> It is theoretically possible to advantage play slots, but the details make
> it such that to do it practically is extremely difficult and making a
> living off of it is likely impossible.
>
> --
> Voted RGP's Stupidest Poster on 3/22/09
>
> "BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
> in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
> since 1972
hans Tuna Lund made like half a million bankrolling slot teams
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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K9way
and now look at him
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Jason Pawloski
Really? I've never heard of that ... do you know any of the details? Was
he progressive-mining slots or was he taking advantage of over-zealous
casino promotions?
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"BART [Bay Area Rapid Transit] is rather new." - Jerry Sturdivant chiming
in on how little he knows about a train system that's been operational
since 1972
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K9way
progressives .. ask him .. years ago .. his team had every overlay in
nevada covered
Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes and
does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
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Kingo Gondo
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Nov 4 2009 10:03 AM, mo_charles wrote:
>
>> wow, how big an idiot is this guy? my guess is broke in 20 years.
>>
>> mo_charles
>
> What is the story? Is there a clip or link?
>
> Irish Mike
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4620789
Jerry Sturdivant
"Jason Pawloski"
>> Shooting dice is, 'pleasure gambling.' You know the
>> odds are slightly against you, but like playing a slot
>> machine, you do it just for the fun of it.
> It is theoretically possible to advantage play slots, but the
> details make it such that to do it practically is extremely
> difficult and making a living off of it is likely impossible.
I'm presuming you mean finding a loose machine. I remember in the old,
mechanical, days you'd find one that paid off well. But today's machines are
all wired to some central computer and I would think they could just dial in
a percentage payout.
Or are you referring to playing the random generator? Not interested in
playing an angle, just wondering what angle you mean.
Jerry 'n Vegas
- Just when you find out life's a bitch, it has puppies...
Jerry Sturdivant
"K9way"
>> How about that Olympic swimmer dude? He almost got
>> swallowed up by the gambling/sleeze lifestyle. Seems
>> he broke free and is back into the pool.
> he is gay and so is travolta
Really? Remember that other Olympic swimmer that was gay? Is it the water?
Was it hanging around swimming pools where people dress skimpy? I hang
around the pool at the Red Rock while the wife's playing slot machines; but
I'm looking at the women.
Do gays swim faster?
Must be the water..
Jerry (drinking beer) 'n Vegas
- Ever notice that movie monsters walk slower than the pope?
buffalo
no_mo you left out hedge fund investor.
Irish Mike
Thanks for the link, I missed this when it was on TV. I don't dispute
Ivy's poker skill but I have never considered him "the greatest poker
player on the planet". In addition, I think any one who gambles non-stop
for very high stakes, as Ivy does, runs the risk of eventually going
broke. The only thing that might change this is Ivy's deal with Full Tilt
poker. I am assuming he owns part of the company but I have no idea how
much he owns or what it's worth.
Irish Mike
OK folks, our phone lines are open and the tenth caller will win... The
Nobel Peace Prize!
James L. Hankins
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote in message
> Thanks for the link, I missed this when it was on TV. I don't dispute
> Ivy's poker skill but I have never considered him "the greatest poker
> player on the planet". In addition, I think any one who gambles non-stop
> for very high stakes, as Ivy does, runs the risk of eventually going
> broke. The only thing that might change this is Ivy's deal with Full Tilt
> poker. I am assuming he owns part of the company but I have no idea how
> much he owns or what it's worth.
It's gotta be worth a whole shitload of money. Ivey is a bona fide
celebrity at this point and could quit playing poker altogether and still
make a lot of money. I think he just gets bored unless it's for very high
stakes that are meaningful to him.
Last time I was at The Bellagio the dealers told us that Ivey had so many
$25k chips he couldn't keep them all in his box.
DaVoice (recgroups)
He spent about a year in Biloxi during the few years before his death
getting absolutely BEAT UP in limits from 10-20 to 75-150 and had one game
for about a week at 200-400 until he quit the guy. The "Crack Whore" was
actually a pretty nice person, although she was definitely a crystal meth
addict. She would come tweaking around the Grand's poker room and find
Jack, grab $100 (most times) and go on her way. She did sweat him when he
was playing games above 30-60 because it was usually very short-handed and
only spread FOR Jack.
The way he and his wife split was horrible, but Jack was always the
"Gentleman" even when he was losing, hence the nickname "Gentleman Jack"
Keller. Ask the dealers in Tunica and Biloxi how he treated them. If
they answer that he treated them badly, they are lying.
Jack only "won" about $100k when he got the bracelet after backers, loans
and taxes were paid. The WSOP wasn't the monstrosity it is today.
Rick "ADB DaVoice" Charles
http://www.voiceofpoker.com
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K9way
> On Nov 4 2009 12:41 PM, K9way wrote:
>
> > On Nov 4 2009 3:34 PM, K9way wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > You really dont undestand much about "gambling " and how hard people
> will
> > > > > search for ways to fail.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think happens when someone who wins at everything finally
> > > > > finds something he cane beat ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I can name you 20-30 of the best in the business who got broke .
> > > > >
> > > > > That includes Helmuth , Chan , baldwin , keller , Pearson ( not JC
but
> > > > > Puggy ) Bones Doman ,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sextron sold his share of party Poker for 16 million and he is broke
!!
> > he
> > > > > has been a sports sucker his whole life .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just when you think that youve been gypped ..the bearded lady comes
and
> > > > > does a double back flip!!! John Hiatt in "Buffalo River Home"
> > > >
> > > > I guess you speak from experience. I've been a winner my whole life. I
> > > > guess some people have no self control. I'm interested in how you know
> > > > that all of these people are broke. Please share details.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Cheap shot nioted !
> > >
> > > yes i have had several major ups and downs . I wasnt referring to myself
> > >