Big Slick Clarification
Odium
an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes 'Big
Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
Tom Overton
Odium wrote in message <19990728054525...@ng-cs1.aol.com>...
I have always heard that Big Slick was AK unsuited. I have never heard the
above definition. Where does the official designation of this term and
other terms come from that make them official?
For example, my understanding that a set is when you have a pocket pair and
one comes on the board. However, many calll a set any thrips such as when
you have A8 and a par of 8's flop. My understanding is that is such a case
it would not be considered a set.
So, is there some official designation of such terms?
Thanks,
Tom Overton
Denton, Texas
.
Scottro
Odium <od...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Probably the most misused term in poker is the phrase 'Big Slick.' Being
dealt
> an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes
'Big
> Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
I've never heard of that at all. My understanding was that Big Slick was
AKs, and that many mistakenly call AKo as Big Slick.
Where is the "Official" definition or origin.
Aces,
Scottro (wishing I was playing in the TOC right now instead of building Web
sites in crappy Ohio)
GaryCarson
used to describe poker hands is Mike Caro University. Some
of the research scientists at that institution have done
extensive experimentation involving holding various card
combinations in the air and recording whether or not the
parrot squawked.
It's pretty much definitive.
Gary Carson
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Scottro
GaryCarson <gary...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> I'm pretty sure that the official arbitrator of all terms
> used to describe poker hands is Mike Caro University. Some
> of the research scientists at that institution have done
> extensive experimentation involving holding various card
> combinations in the air and recording whether or not the
> parrot squawked.
>
> It's pretty much definitive.
>
> Gary Carson
>
That's what I figured.
So Gary, how much research did you do through the MCUniversity for the new
book. You know, it's not good to plagiarize your sources, so you'd better
be careful. Just ask S&M if you don't believe me!
Aces,
Scottro (still wishing I was playing cards, even after my 2-hour lunch
break)
John A. D. Cervanyk
> For example, my understanding that a set is when you have a pocket pair and
> one comes on the board. However, many calll a set any thrips such as when
> you have A8 and a par of 8's flop. My understanding is that is such a case
> it would not be considered a set.
> So, is there some official designation of such terms?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Overton
> Denton, Texas
>
> .
interesting that a proper term for both is a set of trips. A set having
the pair in the pocket, trips having the pair on board.
--
Take care,
John A. D. Cervanyk --- ja...@dnvr.uswest.net
"I wonder how many buffets $5,000 is." -- Mike Paulle
Ken Churilla
wrote:
|
|Odium wrote in message <19990728054525...@ng-cs1.aol.com>...
|>Probably the most misused term in poker is the phrase 'Big Slick.' Being
|dealt
|>an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes
|'Big
|>Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
|
|I have always heard that Big Slick was AK unsuited. I have never heard the
|above definition. Where does the official designation of this term and
|other terms come from that make them official?
I would consider the list of "Colorful Names of Various Hold'em hands"
published in "Super/System" by Doyle Brunson in 1978 as *official*.
He says Big Slick is AK off suit. I also consider my list at
http://www.best.com/~mentorms/poker/handname.htm
as *official*. :-)
BTW, you can find out what Big Al, Big Fritz and Big Lick are on that page too.
Ken Churilla
Ken's Poker Page
http://www.best.com/~mentorms/poker/
Mike Nelson
Tom Overton wrote in message <7nn5cj$a...@hermes.acs.unt.edu>...
>
>Odium wrote in message <19990728054525...@ng-cs1.aol.com>...
>>Probably the most misused term in poker is the phrase 'Big Slick.' Being
>dealt
>>an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes
>'Big
>>Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
>
This is my exact understanding as well (Big Slick is AK unsuited regardless
of what is on the Flop).
A set is as you have stated.
>I have always heard that Big Slick was AK unsuited. I have never heard the
>above definition. Where does the official designation of this term and
>other terms come from that make them official?
Steve BIA
>of what is on the Flop).
>
I was never aware that the AK had to be unsuited to be "big slick", but always
believed that the flop was irrelevant.
Steve N
Mike Caro
wrote:
>
>Odium <od...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19990728054525...@ng-cs1.aol.com...
>> Probably the most misused term in poker is the phrase 'Big Slick.' Being
>dealt
>> an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes
>'Big
>> Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
>
>I've never heard of that at all. My understanding was that Big Slick was
>AKs, and that many mistakenly call AKo as Big Slick.
>
>Where is the "Official" definition or origin.
>
>Aces,
>Scottro (wishing I was playing in the TOC right now instead of building Web
>sites in crappy Ohio)
Scottro --
Michael Wiesenberg's "Poker Talk," the definitive dictionary of poker
terminology, which will me updated and re-released by Mike Caro
University of Poker, Gaming, and Life Strategy (MCU) in a few months,
says this about the term:
big slick (n phrase) In hold 'em, A-K as one's first two cards. Also
known as Santa Barbara.
That is consistent with my own understanding of "big slick." It
doesn't need to be suited. BTW, we will be loading the entire book to
the (still unannounced and almost empty) caro.com web site.
Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
Mike Caro
<ja...@dnvr.uswest.net> wrote:
>Tom Overton wrote:
>> For example, my understanding that a set is when you have a pocket pair and
>> one comes on the board. However, many calll a set any thrips such as when
>> you have A8 and a par of 8's flop. My understanding is that is such a case
>> it would not be considered a set.
>> So, is there some official designation of such terms?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Overton
>> Denton, Texas
>>
>> .
> I believe Lee Jones makes this distinction in WLLH. I think it is
>interesting that a proper term for both is a set of trips. A set having
>the pair in the pocket, trips having the pair on board.
Also from Michael Wiesenberg's "Poker Talk" (see my previous message):
set. 1. (n) In hold 'em and stud, Three of a Kind. To flop a set in
hold 'em means that (most often) one started with a pair and one of
those cards was among the flop (the first three community cards). Less
often it means a pair was among the flop and the player had another
card of that rank in the hole. 2. Four of a Kind, particularly as part
of the phrase set of fours. 3. (v) Arrange the two hands that are made
out of the seven cards dealt each player in Pai Gow Poker.
Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
Mike Caro
>BTW, we will be loading the entire book to
>the (still unannounced and almost empty) caro.com web site.
And, yes, I meant unloading to, uploading to, or loading on -- not
loading to.
Straight Flushes,
Mike Caro
Ken Churilla
That's a load of loads.
Asha34
that AKs was Big Slick. What I was told (not so nicely by some) was that Big
Slick was, at one time AKs but now has come to mean either AKs or AKo. Go
figure. And who really cares when you boil it down.
Ashley
Holdemjay
thing.
Black Jack
Playr in
Suited or off-suit, makes no difference. Usually when I hold Big Slick, I
finish the hand by saying, "Big Slick - NO GOOD" as I toss it in the muck. :-)
Dave
Barbara Yoon
>>> BTW, we will be loading the entire book [Michael Wiesenberg's "Poker Talk"
>>> ...dictionary of poker terminology] to the (still unannounced and almost empty)
>>> caro.com web site.
Mike Caro:
> And, yes, I meant unloading to, uploading to, or loading on -- not loading to.
Oh, don't worry, Mike...any form of the word "load" would do here... And in fact,
in those 'word association' games -- you know, where I say a word, like "cowboy,"
and you respond immediately with the first words that come into your mind, like
"horse," or "Indian," or "six-shooter," or "rodeo" -- "load" just happens to be one
of the most common responses to "Caro"...
John A. D. Cervanyk
>
> Oh, don't worry, Mike...any form of the word "load" would do here... And in fact,
> in those 'word association' games -- you know, where I say a word, like "cowboy,"
> and you respond immediately with the first words that come into your mind, like
> "horse," or "Indian," or "six-shooter," or "rodeo" -- "load" just happens to be one
> of the most common responses to "Caro"...
Followed closely by "rhymes with arrow" and "syrup".
E*Borg
My understanding has always been that AKo was "big slick," AKs was "big
slick suited," and 47s was "Cambodian Big Slick."
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E*Borg
> >
> > Oh, don't worry, Mike...any form of the word "load" would do
> > here... And in fact, in those 'word association' games -- you
> > know, where I say a word, like "cowboy," and you respond
> > immediately with the first words that come into your mind, like
> > "horse," or "Indian," or "six-shooter," or "rodeo" -- "load" just
> > happens to be one of the most common responses to "Caro"...
>
> Followed closely by "rhymes with arrow" and "syrup".
Not to mention "ism," "this station," and "way seeds."
Steve BIA
>slick suited," and 47s was "Cambodian Big Slick."
>
>--E*Borg
>
Steve N
Rshattuck
Badger
> So what's 72o? Mike Caro Big Slick?
Big Yugo.
Steve BIA
>
>Big Yugo.
>
>
YES!
Steve N
Bigfoot
>
> >My understanding has always been that AKo was "big slick," AKs was "big
> >slick suited," and 47s was "Cambodian Big Slick."
> >
> >--E*Borg
> >
>
Here in Texas 2-3 offsuit is "Aggie Slick" or "Polish Big Slick"
John A. D. Cervanyk
>
> Steve BIA wrote...
>
> > So what's 72o? Mike Caro Big Slick?
>
Yugo Slick?
Steve BIA
> > So what's 72o? Mike Caro Big Slick?
>>
>> Big Yugo.
>
> Yugo Slick?
Good, but I like Badger's choice, Big Yugo!
Steve N
Rocco Scavetta
Badger wrote:
>
> Steve BIA wrote...
>
> > So what's 72o? Mike Caro Big Slick?
>
> Big Yugo.
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> Probably the most misused term in poker is the phrase 'Big Slick.' Being dealt
> an ace and a king in hold em is not 'Big Slick.' This hand only becomes 'Big
> Slick' if there is an ace or king on the board.
risky biz
> Interesting. I posted a question about this 3-4 months ago. I too thought
> that AKs was Big Slick. What I was told (not so nicely by some) was that Big
> Slick was, at one time AKs but now has come to mean either AKs or AKo. Go
> figure. And who really cares when you boil it down.
>
> Ashley
That's my opinion, anyway, but I'm a poker donkey.