1. US Military 71%
2. Small Business 60%
3. Police 58%
4. Church 48%
5. Supreme Court 32%
6. TV News 24%
7. Newspapers 24%
8. Congress* 12%
*The current Democrat Congress has the lowest confidence rating of any group
in the 35 year
history of the Gallup Poll.
I would have thought it impossible for any one to have a lower rating than
President Bush but the Democrat Congress pulled if off.
Irish Mike
You wish. People know who's responsible:
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Sept. 27-30, 2007.
"Overall, how much do you think Congress has accomplished
this year: a great deal, a good amount, not too much, or
nothing at all?"
A Good Not Too Nothing
A Great Deal Amount Much At All Unsure
% % % % %
9/27-30/07 2 14 65 17 1
Asked of those who said not too much or nothing at all:
"Who would you say deserves most of the blame for that:
President Bush and the Republicans in Congress or the
Democrats in Congress?"
Bush and
Republicans Democrats
In Congress In Congress Both Neither Unsure
% % % % %
9/27-30/07 51 25 20 2 2
in the 35 year history of the Gallup Poll. President Bush has a terrible
approval rating but it's still higher than Congress. You can spin it any
way you want - doesn't change the fact that this Congress hasn't
accomplished jack shit.
Irish Mike
Mike:
I have wondered about the Democrats too, and specifically why they
have not had the balls to confront and take on President Bush -
especially over Iraq. When questioned on this specific point, (i.e.
"Why do you Democrats fold like a cheap paper bag and give President
Bush whatever he wants?"), prominent Democrats like Delaware senator
Joe Biden shrug and say, "We don't have the votes to override a veto.
You need 67 votes in the Senate, and we only have 60 votes."
I suspect that the Democrats are playing a cynical and precisely
calculated political game. They know that the war in Iraq (as well as
the President who has prosecuted that war) is unpopular by a clear
majority of the American electorate. I think the Democrats are
counting on this unpopularity to work to their advantage in the
upcoming election. In effect, they prefer to let President Bush (and
the Republicans) stew in the "mess" they created - right up to
election day. Confronting President Bush directly, (not to mention
the more drastic step of cutting funding for the war), risks upsetting
this delicate political calculus - not to mention playing right into
the hands of the Republicans.
I could be wrong, but that is what I think is going on: Politicians
jockeying for partisan political advantage - while our young men and
women continue getting killed over there.
Alan C. Lawhon
Huntsville, Alabama
Don't you know how to read those figures?
Most people realize that it's the whiny-ass titty-baby Republicans who are
obstructing every god-damned thing the Democrats try to bring to the floor.
Go ahead, stomp yer feets and deny, deny, deny.
Jim
> *The current Democrat Congress has the lowest confidence rating of any group
> in the 35 year
> history of the Gallup Poll.
Yeah. I'm sure the previous Congress was at least half a point more
popular.
Does it ever occur to you that Congress's low rating might be due to
the fact that they haven't shut off the spigot of war funding ...or
frogmarched Bush and Cheney out of the White House in shackles?
<snip>
Alan, you're overlooking the simplest answer: They share the same agenda.
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We're the Democrats and we controll the Congress of the United States. We
chair all the major committees. We own the Speaker of the House. We
control the issues and the agenda. But we haven't accomplished jack shit
because them mean ol' Republicans just won't let us do any thing. Whaa, whaa
whaa!
GMAFB (give me a fucking break)
Irish Mike
51-49 is not "control". Didn't anyone ever teach you how our government
works?
Jim
Yeah, I guess it must be the Democrat Congress they're thinking of after
eight years of a Republican Congress. That's what any intelligent person
would conclude.
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THIS IS WHY RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS like IRISH MIKE and BUSH can NEVER
be trusted. THEY WILL LIE to advance their Political Agenda. Granted
the publics approval of Congress is extremely low. However read this
By Rasmussen, who is the favorite Pollster of Conservatives. From
their web site.
The latest Rasmussen Reports Generic Congressional Ballot polling
shows little change over the past week--47% of voters say they would
vote for their district’s Democratic candidate, while 34% would for
vote for the Republican candidate.
Last week, the Democrats enjoyed a 48% to 34% advantage.
From now through Election Day, Rasmussen Reports will track the
Generic Congressional Ballot on a weekly basis.
The telephone survey of 7,000 Likely Voters found that of those voters
who consider themselves moderate on fiscal issues, such as taxes and
government spending, 59% would vote for their Democratic candidate,
while 20% would vote Republican. Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters
who consider themselves fiscally conservative would vote for the
Republican candidate, while 21% would vote for the Democratic
candidate. Eighty-four percent (84%) of fiscally liberal voters would
vote Democratic, while just 7% would vote Republican.
When it comes to social issues, voters who consider themselves
socially moderate would choose to vote Democratic by a 47% to 30%
margin. Republicans, not surprisingly, have the advantage among
socially conservative voters, by a 61% to 24% margin. Three out of
four socially liberal voters would vote for their district’s
Democratic candidate, while just 10% would vote Republican.
A 13% edge in the Generic Poll is a MONSTER LEAD for the Dems. Also
there have been three interim elections for Congress this year and the
Dems won every race including the taking of a House Seat in the
TRAILER TRASH STATE of MISSISSIPPI, formerly held by a REPUKE.
DFSPON
Your donkey rating is intact. Eat your hay and oats.
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DFSPON
Are you done foaming at the mouth yet? Do you need to continue your
hysterical rant a little longer? Not one of the things you said changes the
Gallup Poll results published in the Wall Street Journal. The current
Democrat Congress has the lowest public confidence rating of any group in
the 35 year history of the Gallup Poll. It's a fact and nothing you said
refutes that fact. Now, feel free to continue your lunatic liberal rant.
Irish Mike
uhh like minimum wage and baseball and steroids and uhhhhhhh hmmm
well reid
In 1998, Reid bought two parcels of land on the outskirts of Las
Vegas. He bought one parcel himself, and another jointly with his
partner and longtime friend Jay Brown. In 2001, Reid sold the land to
a limited liability company created by Brown for an equivalent share
of the company. He did not disclose the sale to Congress, however, and
continued to list the land as a personal asset. When the land sold for
over $1 million dollars in 2004, Reid received $1.1 million and listed
the transaction as a personal land sale.October 16, 2006, Reid
announced that he was filing a correction to his ethics form that
would better represent the actualities of the arrangements surrounding
the land deal. He also stated that he would be amending the reports to
include two other small holdings that had been previously unreported
In 2002 Reid introduced a bill, "The Clark County Conservation of
Public Land and Natural Resources Act of 2002," which was ostensibly
aimed at boundary shifts, land trades and other arcane matters in
Nevada. The Times article explains that the bill would provide "a
cavalcade of benefits to real estate developers, corporations and
local institutions that were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars
in lobbying fees to his sons' and son-in-law's firms". Howard Hughes
Corp. paid Reid's son-in-law Scott Barringer's "tiny" law firm
$300,000 in lobbying fees
Between 2003 and 2005, Reid accepted free ringside seats at three
Nevada boxing matches. The passes were provided by the Nevada Athletic
Commission. Reid accepted the tickets at a time that he was pushing
legislation that would diminish the power of the commission
Associated Press story by John Solomon, Reid wrote letters and had
"routine contacts" with lobbying partners and clients of disgraced
lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Reid's actions aided the interests of
Abramoff's Native American clients. Reid has acknowledged receiving
$61,000 from clients or collegues of Abramoff,
Reid is a longtime friend of Harvey Whittemore, a multimillionaire
lobbyist and land developer from Nevada. From 2002 to 2006, Reid often
used his influence in the Senate to help Whittemore attain government
land for the purposes of building a massive development in the barren
Coyote Springs Valley in Nevada.As the project advanced, Reid received
tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore
Reid's son, Leif Reid, is Whittemore's personal lawyer and has
represented the developer throughout the Coyote Springs project and
his negotiations with federal officials
From 2002-2005, Reid used money that had been donated to his political
campaign fund to contribute to the holiday bonus fund for the staffers
of his Ritz-Carlton condominium. Federal law forbids the use of
campaign funds for personal matters
etc etc etc
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/11/pelosis_land_de.html
Pelosi's Land Deals May Put Reid's To Shame
It appears as though House Speaker to be Nancy Pelosi has her own land
dealings aided by government and family connections so thick you could
cut them with a knife. In fact, you may have to to unravel all the
relationships......
Just to clear up a factual error, the Democrats are not able to get many
major pieces of legislation through Congress because they don't have the
60 votes needed to invoke cloture (which allows debate on the
legislation). I doubt this is a quote from Senator Biden, because I
asssume he knows this is the basic problem.
Getting the votes to override a Presidential veto has been an issue in
preventing a few pieces of legislation (the expansion of the Children's
Health Program comes to mind), but most of the major pieces of legislation
(most significantly dealing with Iraq) have been thwarted by the failure
to get 60 votes in the Senate.
I understand the frustration of the American people who don't follow the
specifics of the process in Congress (which leads to those low poll
numbers), but the reality is that if the Democrats were able to get these
issues to the Senate floor for a straight up-and-down vote then they would
have accomplished much more than they have.
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I have absolutely no idea why you insist on arguing with the ignorant
fuck. He'll never get it.
--
thepixelfreak
>> We're the Democrats and we controll the Congress of the United States...
>
> 51-49 is not "control". Didn't anyone ever teach you how our government
> works?
51-49 is a hell of lot more powerful than 49-51. It provides the
Committee chairmanships, and with them a lot of power, and the power to
set the agenda.
We are blessed that our system allows the minority as much power as it
does, though. It prevents either party from being fully in "control,"
as you point out. That has served us very well in curbing the excesses
by both parties.
Be careful what you wish for. Should either party achieve 60 seats in
the Senate while holding a working majority in the House and the
Presidency, we'll be in for a very rough time.
--
Joe Long aka ChipRider
Somewhere on the Range
Liberals constantly bitch and moan about Republicans but never mention the
fact that the Democrats controlled Congress for forty (40) years.
Irish Mike
It isn't control. Accept it.
Jim
On Jul 1, 10:43�pm, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
On 6/26/08 the Wall Street Journal published the results of the latest
Gallup Public Opinion Poll on public confidence in US institutions.
�The following are the results, from most confidence to least
confidence:
1. US Military � � � � � 71%
2. Small Business � � �60%
3. Police � � � � � �
� � � � 58%
4. Church � � � � � �
� � � 48%
5. Supreme Court � � �32%
6. TV News � � � � � �
� �24%
7. Newspapers � � � � �
�24%
8. Congress* � � � � � �
� 12%
Irish Mike
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Wrong. The Democrats are funding the Iraq war because we're fighting
Israel's enemies at US expense. The Democrats are all for it.
So your excuse for the Democrat Congress's failure to accomplish
anything meaningful since they have had a majority in both the House
and Senate comes down to the fact that Democrarts don't have a 60+
seat super majority to invoke cloture or block a filabuster. The fact
is that during the entire time the Republicans had majority control of
the Senate, they also never had a 60+ seat super majority. So your
lame excuse doesn't hold water!
Try again. The facts, truth and unpolitically corrected history rarely
ever support any liberal argument on any serious public policy issue.
Thus, Conservatives are continually subjected to the dishonest, mean
spirited, intolerant, narrow minded, hateful politics of personal
destruction that they have so artfully mastered. Another fact: the
obstructionist Democrats employed or threatened filabuster far more
frequently and more times during the Republican majority period than
the Republicans have during this period of the Democrat majority.
Inconveinent, factual truth's:
The much touted "abismally low" approval rating for President
Bush(25%)is MORE than the even lower 24% approval ratings of both the
TV an Newspaper media; and MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH AS THE "extremly
abismally low" approval rating of the Democtat controlled Congress
(12%).
Things are rarely as the liberal Democrats and the hyperbiased and
manipulative extreem left wing media would have us believe.
We will never be able to have a serious, meaningful, respectful and
civil public debate on the most critical and important issues facing
our nation until the radical Liberal Democrats, and Closet Socialists
cease the emotionally irrational, dishonest, hateful, divisive,
distracting and distructive politdics of personal distruction.
>Wrong. The Democrats are funding the Iraq war because we're fighting
>Israel's enemies at US expense. The Democrats are all for it.
C'mon, you're not going down that road are you? If one is a Democrat in
Congress, it is one thing to be against the war; it is entirely another to
leave soldiers high and dry when they are already at war and on the ground
fighting. The CINCI made a decision and, although I disagree with it, if I
was in Congress I would vote for proper funding if that was the decision
that was made by the President. It think anything less borders on
treasonous.
Besides, this President doesn't give a crap about Jews or their agenda.
He's controlled by the Saudis and oil money. :))
> So your excuse for the Democrat Congress's failure to accomplish
> anything meaningful since they have had a majority in both the House
> and Senate comes down to the fact that Democrarts don't have a 60+
> seat super majority to invoke cloture or block a filabuster. The fact
> is that during the entire time the Republicans had majority control of
> the Senate, they also never had a 60+ seat super majority. So your
> lame excuse doesn't hold water!
>
Yeah, that 60+ isn't so important WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR GUY IN THE WHITE
HOUSE!!!!1!@!!
Sheesh. And, yes, I know that the Republican Congress had to "suffer"
through that radical leftist in the WH for a few years, first.
"Travel A" <nin...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:25784-486...@baytvnwsxa002.msntv.msn.com...
Wrong. The Democrats are funding the Iraq war because we're fighting
Israel's enemies at US expense. The Democrats are all for it.
...................................................................................
"C'mon, you're not going down that road are you?"
I'm not going "down a road", the Democrats are.
.....................................................................................
"If one is a Democrat in Congress, it is one thing to be against the
war; it is entirely another to leave soldiers high and dry when they are
already at war and on the ground fighting."
There can't be more than one reason? Two reasons makes for very little
argument. Bush in no way achieved a "victory over the Democrat congress"
in funding the Iraq war, the Democrat congress is all for it. If it was
funding for the Vietnam war, you'd see an entirely different story; a
Democrat congress wouldn't be so interested in "the troops" who are
already committed as you're so readily assigning their motive with
regard to Iran and this particular region.
.............................................................................
-"Besides, this President doesn't give a crap about Jews or their
agenda. He's controlled by the Saudis and oil money. :))"-
Are you kidding me? Why do think Bush is saber rattling over nuking
Iran. It's a message that he'll do anything for Israel and will nuke in
a heartbeat. Very unusual for a President to be the flame thrower,
especially at this early stage of tension. He jumps about five stages of
rhetoric levels on the Iran issue on behalf of Israel.
Also, "controlled by the Saudis". This red herring has been tried and
failed by the left wing long ago. I might remind you that the Saudis
provided the staging ground for the two wars. Israel provided zip. The
Saudis haven't exactly been too worried about showing their support for
the US, it's too bad other countries over there can't do the same.
.................................................................................
???? I said it wasn't. I even addressed why it's a good thing that it
isn't.
My bad -- I thought you were Mike.
Jim