OT: Civics Quiz
ramashiva
I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
"Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
LOL.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
BillB
"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I got 31 out 33 right too.
Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
ramashiva
> I got 31 out 33 right too.
> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
14 and 29.
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Pepe Papon
<ramas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jan 19, 7:07 pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>
>> I got 31 out 33 right too.
>
>> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
>
>14 and 29.
I missed 4, 14, 27, and 29. I find the wording of the answer to #27
to be confusing. I had to guess at what they were trying to say.
#29 seems to have two correct answers.
popinjay999
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> I missed 4, 14, 27, and 29. I find the wording of the answer to #27
> to be confusing. I had to guess at what they were trying to say.
>
> #29 seems to have two correct answers.
Yeah, sure, blame the test. That is so beldin-like. Can you imagine
Beldin taking this test and getting several wrong? He would surely
disagree with the test and say that he is instead correct. Well, that
is almost what you are doing. Man-up and shut-up, you got some
wrong. Ok?
Clave
"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
Yah, honor system. Believe what you want about my results. There were a
few interesting questions.
> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
As if Travel was a contender.
Jim
Will_gamble
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da pickle
>>> I got 31 out 33 right too.
>>
>>> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
>>
>>14 and 29.
>
> I missed 4, 14, 27, and 29. I find the wording of the answer to #27
> to be confusing. I had to guess at what they were trying to say.
>
> #29 seems to have two correct answers.
I thought several questions seemed to have difficult wording ... that is,
what answer were they after, not so much what answer was "correct" in any
meaningful way. I agree that #29 was strange but I do not know which other
answer could possibly be "correct" other than the one they wanted. I only
missed #7 ... I selected the correct answer and changed my mind. It was a
guess between the two. At one time in school, we memorized the Gettysburg
Address and if I was not so old, I would have remembered it all. [I don't
remember the whole "Friends, Romans, Countrymen ... " speech either.]
Anyway, I thought it was an interesting test:
You answered 32 out of 33 correctly - 96.97 %
Average score for this quiz during January: 76.0%
You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will only
count once toward the monthly average.
If you have any comments or questions about the quiz, please email
americanci...@isi.org.
You can consult the following table to see how citizens and elected
officials scored on each question.
Where to from here?
Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address
Beldin the Sorcerer
"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I got them all right
Most of them aren't that tough
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
On Jan 19, 7:07 pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
> I got 31 out 33 right too.
> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
14 and 29.
***
A for 14 and E for 29?
I considered them and rejected em, but they're the most likely to be chosen
incorrects
William Coleman (ramashiva)
Beldin the Sorcerer
"popinjay999" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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***
Fuck you, moron, I got 100%
4 is a goddamned gimmie, for fuck's sake. The Lincoln-Douglas debates were a
main point in US history in high school
14's tricky, if you don't remember the puritans weren't always opposed to
war
27's slanted, but if you accept the premise, there's only one answer
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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E is wrong
Citizens pay for it through taxation. "Government" may allocate the money to
buy it, but they don't pay for it, since all they have is tax revenues to
buy things.
croupe
30/33 - I missed 7/13/29. I'm still a little shakey on 29.
Croupe
otter
raven1
<ramas...@gmail.com> wrote:
"You answered 33 out of 33 correctly — 100.00 %
Average score for this quiz during January: 76.0%
You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will
only count once toward the monthly average."
I agree with others that question 29 was strangely phrased.
Dutch
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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If you think about it, E in 29 can't be correct because government paying is
not an alternative to citizens paying, it IS citizens paying.
Bea Deviled~~~~>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:ih9kj5$1gu$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
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> > "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Jan 19, 7:07 pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
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> >> I got 31 out 33 right too.
>
> >> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
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> > 14 and 29.
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> > ***
> > A for 14 and E for 29?
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> > I considered them and rejected em, but they're the most likely to be
> > chosen incorrects
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> If you think about it, E in 29 can't be correct because government paying is
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If anyone cares, I got 29/33. I could have done better, but I didn't
do worse. I'll take my B+.
number6
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:52:52 -0800 (PST), ramashiva
>
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> "You answered 33 out of 33 correctly — 100.00 %
>
> Average score for this quiz during January: 76.0%
>
> You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will
> only count once toward the monthly average."
>
> I agree with others that question 29 was strangely phrased.
I don't see how anyone could get any wrong ... granted a question or
two requires careful reading and understanding a nuance ...
Dutch
"Bea Deviled~~~~>" <BeaF...@msn.com> wrote in message
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I did the first 12 and found them all incredibly easy, and I'm Canadian. I
wonder how Americans would do on a similar Canadian quiz? (that's
rhetorical)
Necron99
> "Bea Deviled~~~~>" <BeaFor...@msn.com> wrote in message
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I got 27/33.
Jerry Sturdivant
"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Pepe Papon"
>
>>>> I got 31 out 33 right too.
>>>
>>>> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
>>>
>>>14 and 29.
>>
>> I missed 4, 14, 27, and 29. I find the wording of the answer to #27
>> to be confusing. I had to guess at what they were trying to say.
>>
>> #29 seems to have two correct answers.
>
> I thought several questions seemed to have difficult wording ...
I got the average. So I agree with you that the ones I missed were worded
badly and the ones I got right, weren't.
Jerry (it's why I always shoot par) 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>>
>> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>>
>> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>>
>> William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
> I got them all right
Gee, who wouldn't have guessed you'd claim that?
Jerry 'n Vegas
Jerry Sturdivant
"number6" <snum...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 20, 11:24 am, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:52:52 -0800 (PST), ramashiva
>>
>> <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "You answered 33 out of 33 correctly — 100.00 %
>>
>> Average score for this quiz during January: 76.0%
>>
>> You can take the quiz as often as you like, however, your score will
>> only count once toward the monthly average."
>>
>> I agree with others that question 29 was strangely phrased.
>
>
> I don't see how anyone could get any wrong ...
Not giving much of a shit. Reading too fast. Not reading all the answers and
just picking the first one that sounds right. Not giving much of a shit.
Getting tired and not being sure how long the damn thing is. Not giving a
shit.
Jerry (not giving a shit) 'n Vegas
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otter
> I don't see how anyone could get any wrong ... granted a question or
> two requires careful reading and understanding a nuance ...
I admit I feel a little embarrassed about missing the 1st amendment
question, but I don't have them all memorized. I just don't consider
it important to know which number it is.
The one about Franklin and the Supreme Court I just never heard. I
almost picked the right answer, but then thought, naw he couldn't have
been so corrupt as to do that.
Robert Ladd
What did you feel was the second correct answer in 29?
Robert Ladd
Von Fourche
"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>
> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>
> LOL.
I find it somewhat conservative. I wonder who's really behind this test.
Big evil business?
Robert Ladd
"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>
> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>
> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
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> LOL.
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Almost all of the five-answer questions had at least 2 answers that could
automatically be eliminated. Four-answer questions 3, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22,
23 and 24 could have been answered as fill in the blank questions, and thus
really had only 1 answer using the choices. 21 could also have been a
fill-in-the-blank question if worded, "Name two of the countries that were
our enemies during World War II.", and was also a one answer question.
Based on the "lock" or "reduced choice" questions, almost anyone that had
grown up in the United States should have been able to fall into at least
24-26 (73-79%) correct. It is scary that 71% of Americans fail the test
with an overall average score of 49%.
Our education system fails us. Ask those same 71% that failed the test who
was the 2007 American Idol winner, or how to access a weather report from
their iPod and they suddenly display remarkable brillancy.
Maybe I'm just a relic of the past and am not aware of today's value of
iPod-weather reports vs. the circumstances that almost plunged us into war
in 1962. But it is quite disconcerting to me to know that the same populous
that elects the American Idol winner is also electing the President and
Congress to whom we've abdicated most of our life decisions.
Robert Ladd
popinjay999
>
> The one about Franklin and the Supreme Court I just never heard. I
> almost picked the right answer, but then thought, naw he couldn't have
> been so corrupt as to do that.
That's exactly what he was, and I am sure you don't know the half of
it.
I know for one, the Agricultural Adjustment Act was shot down as
"communistic". Yes, that's what the Supreme Court said, too
communistic. Virtually the same act was reviewed a few years later by
his stacked court, and it breezed through, and is mostly intact today.
"Corrupt" is an understatement. FDR was an out and out traitor,
surrounded by proven Soviet spies! Just do your homework, because the
standard sources don't tell you this shit. But if one wants to dig
deep enough for the truth, then it is accessible. At the same time if
one wants to remain a member of the Ignoramus Brigade, then that is an
option too.
popinjay999
> "Pepe Papon" <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> > #29 seems to have two correct answers.
>
> What did you feel was the second correct answer in 29?
>
> Robert Ladd
I'll guess he said 'E', but when he looks at the question again he'll
know he just wasn't being careful enough. I wouldn't be surprised if
he does not respond to your question at all. As I said, he was making
excuses, and I compared it to being beldin-like, which we all know
what that means. Of course, Beldin got them all right, and if he's
telling the truth then that's a feather in his cap. No one else did
100%, I know I didn't.
popinjay999
>
> Almost all of the five-answer questions had at least 2 answers that could
> automatically be eliminated. Four-answer questions 3, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22,
> 23 and 24 could have been answered as fill in the blank questions, and thus
> really had only 1 answer using the choices. 21 could also have been a
> fill-in-the-blank question if worded, "Name two of the countries that were
> our enemies during World War II.", and was also a one answer question.
>
> Based on the "lock" or "reduced choice" questions, almost anyone that had
> grown up in the United States should have been able to fall into at least
> 24-26 (73-79%) correct. It is scary that 71% of Americans fail the test
> with an overall average score of 49%.
>
> Our education system fails us. Ask those same 71% that failed the test who
> was the 2007 American Idol winner, or how to access a weather report from
> their iPod and they suddenly display remarkable brillancy.
>
> Maybe I'm just a relic of the past and am not aware of today's value of
> iPod-weather reports vs. the circumstances that almost plunged us into war
> in 1962. But it is quite disconcerting to me to know that the same populous
> that elects the American Idol winner is also electing the President and
> Congress to whom we've abdicated most of our life decisions.
>
> Robert Ladd
People are this ignorant about the basics, how do you suppose it
pencils out when it comes to the non-basics, the fine points, the
things that are semi-covered up? I think I've posted maybe three or
four times over the years about Kama River truck factory. All I've
gotten was <crickets>. Just because this group as a whole, the ones
that posted their scores anyway, did better than the national average,
does not attest to it being anything more than a group of ignorant
morons. And that is true of the "old" RGP as well as the current.
Necron99
Kama River truck factory.
Fuck Paul, whats on prime time tv when you turn it on, leave it to
beaver?
popinjay999
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> Kama River truck factory.
> Fuck Paul, whats on prime time tv when you turn it on, leave it to
> beaver?
Not sure exactly what you mean by that, although I usually watch Dog
the Bounty Hunter during prime time.
With your reference to 'leave it to beaver', I'll assume you mean that
history doesn't matter. In the famous words of Charles Barkley during
an interview with Michael Savage, "I don't cares about no history, I
cares about now". So members of the Ignoramus Brigade like Charles
Barkley and Necron99 will not be interested in the following link, but
in case anyone else is, I will post this for them.
PROOF THAT DAVID ROCKEFELLER IS A TRAITOR AND ENEMY
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/42246
Regarding the comment from Necron99 and whatever is in his head, it's
like the policeman said to the assembled crowd, "Move along folks,
there's nothing there".
Necron99
> On Jan 21, 12:18 am, Necron99 <necron...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > Kama River truck factory.
> > Fuck Paul, whats on prime time tv when you turn it on, leave it to
> > beaver?
>
> Not sure exactly what you mean by that, although I usually watch Dog
> the Bounty Hunter during prime time.
>
> With your reference to 'leave it to beaver', I'll assume you mean that
> history doesn't matter. In the famous words of Charles Barkley during
> an interview with Michael Savage, "I don't cares about no history, I
> cares about now". So members of the Ignoramus Brigade like Charles
> Barkley and Necron99 will not be interested in the following link, but
> in case anyone else is, I will post this for them.
>
>
> Regarding the comment from Necron99 and whatever is in his head, it's
> like the policeman said to the assembled crowd, "Move along folks,
> there's nothing there".
History is something to keep in mind, not to live in.
You want real criminal acts? Go look at Detroit.
popinjay999
>
> History is something to keep in mind, not to live in.
>
Necron, I have already relegated you to the same list where Pepe
Papon, Dutch, Patrick Karl, Raven1, et al., share each other's
company. You don't have to keep trying so hard to get me to recognize
your ignorance. You can relax now. Take a breather.
Clave
> On Jan 21, 12:53 am, Necron99 <necron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>> History is something to keep in mind, not to live in.
>>
>
>
> Necron, I have already relegated you to the same list where Pepe
> Papon, Dutch, Patrick Karl, Raven1, et al., share each other's
> company.
And I have a pigeonhole all my own.
I'm Popular.
Jim
Necron99
Don't make me come over there.
Pepe Papon
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Jan 20, 1:51 am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I missed 4, 14, 27, and 29. I find the wording of the answer to #27
>> to be confusing. I had to guess at what they were trying to say.
>>
>> #29 seems to have two correct answers.
>
>
>Yeah, sure, blame the test. That is so beldin-like. Can you imagine
>Beldin taking this test and getting several wrong? He would surely
>disagree with the test and say that he is instead correct. Well, that
>is almost what you are doing.
Almost, but not quite.
>Man-up and shut-up, you got some
>wrong. Ok?
Tests aren't infallible. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong If you or
someone else can explain why one answer was right and the other
wasn't.
Pepe Papon
<jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I thought several questions seemed to have difficult wording ... that is,
>what answer were they after, not so much what answer was "correct" in any
>meaningful way. I agree that #29 was strange but I do not know which other
>answer could possibly be "correct" other than the one they wanted.
One answer said something to the effect that it was paid for with
public funds.
Pepe Papon
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Jan 20, 8:16 pm, "Robert Ladd" <rla...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Pepe Papon" <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>
>
>>
>> > #29 seems to have two correct answers.
>>
>> What did you feel was the second correct answer in 29?
>>
>> Robert Ladd
>
>
>I'll guess he said 'E', but when he looks at the question again he'll
>know he just wasn't being careful enough. I wouldn't be surprised if
>he does not respond to your question at all.
I already answered it in response to pickle, so STFU. And yes, I
said "E".
Pepe Papon
Can someone repost the link so I can re-read the question?
Pepe Papon
<Beld...@verizon.net> wrote:
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>"ramashiva" <ramas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>>
>> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>>
>> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>>
>> William Coleman (ramashiva)
>
>I got them all right
>
>Most of them aren't that tough
I tend to find most questions easy if I know the answers.
BillB
>Of course, Beldin got them all right, and if he's
>telling the truth then that's a feather in his cap. No one else did
>100%, I know I didn't.
Of course Beldumb got 100%, but it took him two hours on wikipedia to pull
it off.
Jerry Sturdivant
"Pepe Papon" <hitme...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Jeeze! What a bunch of busted egos. It was a fun test. Now were subjected to
lying and one-upmanship-shit. But, alas, it was to be as expected as, well,
Beldin, saying he got everything answer right.
Jerry (setting his watch) 'n Vegas
number6
>
> > I don't see how anyone could get any wrong ...
>
> Not giving much of a shit. Reading too fast. Not reading all the answers and
> just picking the first one that sounds right. Not giving much of a shit.
> Getting tired and not being sure how long the damn thing is. Not giving a
> shit.
>
Hehe ... OK you did list some pretty valid reasons ...
da pickle
>>I thought several questions seemed to have difficult wording ... that is,
>>what answer were they after, not so much what answer was "correct" in any
>>meaningful way. I agree that #29 was strange but I do not know which
>>other
>>answer could possibly be "correct" other than the one they wanted.
>
> One answer said something to the effect that it was paid for with
> public funds.
29) A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public
good because:
A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
C. government construction contracts increase employment
D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a flood
E. government pays for its construction, not citizens
I presume you found "E" persuasive. Much like the LSAT or other such tests,
one answer sometimes appears to be true but not quite as applicable as
another.
I know I missed #7 ... which means I was just wrong. I forgot my Gettysburg
Address.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"Jerry Sturdivant" <jer...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Shithead, the questions weren't tough
I mean, I realize you're so fucked in the head, you can't remember last
week, but most people can remember history class
Beldin the Sorcerer
"BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote in message
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It took about three minutes to answer the quiz
No cheating was done
No need to
I mean, for you, sure, you'd have to, but you're Canadian, for fuck's sake
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
Well, a couple of them tried to be tricky.
The two Willie got snagged on required more than a cursory read through
Beldin the Sorcerer
Sure.
I can be helpful
Don't get used to it or anything
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
29) A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a
public good because:
A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
C. government construction contracts increase employment
D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a
flood
E. government pays for its construction, not citizens
It's the "Not citizens" that makes it wrong, because the government is
funded by the citizens
popinjay999
>
> Tests aren't infallible. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong If you or
> someone else can explain why one answer was right and the other
> wasn't.
Pepe, at minimum I am 10 times more smart than you, yet you don't see
me blaming the test, even though I missed a couple more than you did.
Be a big boy.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"otter" <bighor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 20, 2:50 pm, number6 <snumb...@aol.com> wrote:
> I don't see how anyone could get any wrong ... granted a question or
> two requires careful reading and understanding a nuance ...
I admit I feel a little embarrassed about missing the 1st amendment
question, but I don't have them all memorized. I just don't consider
it important to know which number it is.
The one about Franklin and the Supreme Court I just never heard. I
almost picked the right answer, but then thought, naw he couldn't have
been so corrupt as to do that.
***
Hell... we spent a couple of weeks on him stacking the SC (or trying
to).....
Then they were kind enough to simply die off, and he didn't need to
Beldin the Sorcerer
>>> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>>>
>>> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>>>
>>> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>>>
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>>
>>> William Coleman (ramashiva)
>>
>> I got them all right
>
FYP
Jerry, it's basic history and civics.
Any American who got a high school diploma or GED should be able to ace that
Beldin the Sorcerer
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> "Bea Deviled~~~~>" <BeaF...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>> On Jan 20, 11:12 am, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net> wrote in
>>> messagenews:ih9kj5$1gu$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
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>>> > "ramashiva" <ramashiv...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> > On Jan 19, 7:07 pm, "BillB" <bo...@shaw1.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I got 31 out 33 right too.
>>>
>>> >> Which ones did you get wrong? I missed 4 and 7.
>>>
>>> > 14 and 29.
>>>
>>> > ***
>>> > A for 14 and E for 29?
>>>
>>> > I considered them and rejected em, but they're the most likely to be
>>> > chosen incorrects
>>>
>>> If you think about it, E in 29 can't be correct because government
>>> paying is
>>> quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> If anyone cares, I got 29/33. I could have done better, but I didn't
>> do worse. I'll take my B+.
>
> I did the first 12 and found them all incredibly easy, and I'm Canadian. I
> wonder how Americans would do on a similar Canadian quiz? (that's
> rhetorical)
>
>
Oh, most of us would fail
N o question
>
popinjay999
wrote:
> Hell... we spent a couple of weeks on him stacking the SC (or trying
> to).....
>
> Then they were kind enough to simply die off, and he didn't need to
How does them dying off preclude him from stacking the court? It
facilitated it, fuck face. You were doing so well, and now you had to
get all beldinous on us.
mo_charles
> >>telling the truth then that's a feather in his cap. No one else did
> >>100%, I know I didn't.
> >
> > Of course Beldumb got 100%, but it took him two hours on wikipedia to pull
> > it off.
>
> It took about three minutes to answer the quiz
>
> No cheating was done
>
> No need to
>
> I mean, for you, sure, you'd have to, but you're Canadian, for fuck's sake
what kind of person brags about a quiz score on the internet? i think if
you and billb weren't so similar, you might like eachother.
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mo_charles
> > wonder how Americans would do on a similar Canadian quiz? (that's
> > rhetorical)
>
> Oh, most of us would fail
>
> N o question
how would you do on the zaire quiz? most people learn what matters to
them.
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>
> FYP
>
> Jerry, it's basic history and civics.
>
> Any American who got a high school diploma or GED should be able to ace that
the puritans and aristotle?
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Iceman
> > > I did the first 12 and found them all incredibly easy, and I'm Canadian. I
> > > wonder how Americans would do on a similar Canadian quiz? (that's
> > > rhetorical)
>
> > Oh, most of us would fail
>
> > N o question
>
> how would you do on the zaire quiz? most people learn what matters to
> them.
Yeah, you'd think someone who allegedly trades for a living would be
able to understand basis points and credit risk.
mo_charles
> > them.
>
> Yeah, you'd think someone who allegedly trades for a living would be
> able to understand basis points and credit risk.
i understand it perfectly. you didn't understand what i wrote - unlikely
since you conveniently snipped it - you're a lying shitbag - or you're
illiterate.
which?
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BillB
"mo_charles" <harry...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> what kind of person brags about a quiz score on the internet? i think if
> you and billb weren't so similar, you might like eachother.
Brag? Are you kidding? I was shocked and appalled at my score. I haven't
done that badly on a test since...jeez, I can't remember when.
BillB
"Iceman" <oneo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>Yeah, you'd think someone who allegedly trades for a living would be
>able to understand basis points and credit risk.
Ya, I saw that too. I laughed hard. Mo_ron the daytrader. LOL!
BillB
> It took about three minutes to answer the quiz
>
> No cheating was done
>
> No need to
>
> I mean, for you, sure, you'd have to, but you're Canadian, for fuck's sake
Beldumb, do you really expect anyone to believe that someone who really,
truly believed California was less than $4 billion in debt, and that the
"Artic Circle" was shrinking, could pass any test designed for adults? Give
it a rest. You couldn't tie your shoes without wikipedia, and even then you
get it wrong half the time.
Iceman
> "Iceman" <oneofc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Given the ignorance Mo has shown here, I can't believe that he
actually makes a living trading his own accounts. He probably just
writes research reports for the real traders, or something like that.
mo_charles
>
> Given the ignorance Mo has shown here, I can't believe that he
> actually makes a living trading his own accounts. He probably just
> writes research reports for the real traders, or something like that.
maybe you two will explain my ignorance to me. do it in the thread it
happened, and without snipping my posts. please do it quickly, though,
this coffee runner's got big plans for the weekend.
mo_charles
--------
mo_charles
> >able to understand basis points and credit risk.
>
> Ya, I saw that too. I laughed hard. Mo_ron the daytrader. LOL!
you saw it, but forgot to ridicule me.
Dutch
>> > I did the first 12 and found them all incredibly easy, and I'm
>> > Canadian. I
>> > wonder how Americans would do on a similar Canadian quiz? (that's
>> > rhetorical)
>>
>> Oh, most of us would fail
>>
>> N o question
>
> how would you do on the zaire quiz? most people learn what matters to
> them.
People learn what they are exposed to, and Americans are exposed almost
exclusively to American history and politics. People in other countries tend
to have an interest in international affairs.
To be fair, I'd probably do less well on the Canadian test than on the
American one, our culture up here is swamped with American influences.
phlash74
ramashiva wrote:
> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>
> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>
> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>
> LOL.
>
>
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
Civics Quiz You answered 33 out of 33 correctly —
100.00 %
I almost missed the question about the Fed, but realized my mistake
and changed my answer before submitting the quiz.
What I found unbelievable was the claim that college educators scored
an average of 55%, yet the January average for the online quiz takers
was 75%.
Michael
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"> phlash
On your circle jerk k00l kidz email list. Should be disqualified for
that, but I'll give him a pass because he is smart." - ramashiva,
8/22/2010
phlash74
MAN IN BLACK: But if there can be no arrangement, then we are at an
impasse.
VIZZINI: I'm afraid so. I can't compete with you physically, and
you're no match for my brains.
MAN IN BLACK: You're that smart, are you?
VIZZINI: Let me put it to you this way. Ever hear of Plato, Aristotle,
Socrates?
MAN IN BLACK: Yes.
VIZZINI: Morons.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"phlash74" <phla...@msn.com> wrote in message
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ramashiva wrote:
> http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/resources/quiz.aspx
>
> I got 31 of 33 correct, which is pretty good.
>
> "Note: This quiz does not support WebTV."
>
> LOL.
>
>
> William Coleman (ramashiva)
Civics Quiz You answered 33 out of 33 correctly �
100.00 %
I almost missed the question about the Fed, but realized my mistake
and changed my answer before submitting the quiz.
What I found unbelievable was the claim that college educators scored
an average of 55%, yet the January average for the online quiz takers
was 75%.
***
They slant liberal
The quiz slants conservative
popinjay999
wrote:
> They slant liberal
>
> The quiz slants conservative
Show ONE question on the quiz that had a slant in either direction! I
don't think you can.
And in making this post without checking your facts, you are adding to
the clutter of the newsgroup by necessitating correction of your
error.
So please, in the future, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN DON'T POST!
popinjay999
>
> So please, in the future, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN DON'T POST!
Maggot!
Beldin the Sorcerer
Bill, you're a proven liar, repeatedly.
And since I never once believed the actual geographic area of 'the arctic
circle' was shrinking, and any non moron knew I was talking about ice cover,
you want me to lend credibility to a shithead who can't read in context.
You and alim, the moron brothers
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
Since they tested you for VD?
>
>
Beldin the Sorcerer
>> > Gee, who wouldn't have guessed you'd do that?
>>
>> FYP
>>
>> Jerry, it's basic history and civics.
>>
>> Any American who got a high school diploma or GED should be able to ace
>> that
>
> the puritans and aristotle?
>
US history 1 and World History
Not tough
Beldin the Sorcerer
"popinjay999" <paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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***
WOW!
You're a COMPLETE shithead
They died off, so he didn't need to ADD more justices. He was going to have
there be up to 15 of them
BillB
> Bill, you're a proven liar, repeatedly.
>
> And since I never once believed the actual geographic area of 'the arctic
> circle' was shrinking, and any non moron knew I was talking about ice
> cover, you want me to lend credibility to a shithead who can't read in
> context.
>
> You and alim, the moron brothers
What is the sentence "the artic circle is shrinking." supposed to mean to a
"non-moron."?
Did you also "never once believe" California was less than $4 billion in
debt? Didn't you even say you read it on wikipedia? lol
Beldin the Sorcerer
>
> "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beld...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ihen8v$ie6$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Bill, you're a proven liar, repeatedly.
>>
>> And since I never once believed the actual geographic area of 'the arctic
>> circle' was shrinking, and any non moron knew I was talking about ice
>> cover, you want me to lend credibility to a shithead who can't read in
>> context.
>>
>> You and alim, the moron brothers
>
> What is the sentence "the artic circle is shrinking." supposed to mean to
> a "non-moron."?
>
In the context of the post, as has been explained repeatedly to the
satisfaction of NON-retards, that the ice cover in the arctic circle receded
annually, but never completely melted off, though it was predicted to in the
future
I REALIZE you're a pathetic shitbag, Willie II.
But FUCK, just how dumb are you?
> Did you also "never once believe" California was less than $4 billion in
> debt? Didn't you even say you read it on wikipedia? lol
Second half is an obvious no, shitbag
I cited, and provided a link
The cite was obviously wrong, however it wasn't wiki
YOU, of course, lied repeatedly about canadian government debt
>
popinjay999
wrote:
> WOW!
> You're a COMPLETE shithead
>
> They died off, so he didn't need to ADD more justices. He was going to have
> there be up to 15 of them
Thank you for your blatant dishonesty. Did he not make sure that new
appointees were sympathetic to his programs? Is that not stacking?
If you would rather call people names instead of debating this like
adults, then count me out.
popinjay999
>
> What is the sentence "the artic circle is shrinking." supposed to mean to a
> "non-moron."?
>
> Did you also "never once believe" California was less than $4 billion in
> debt? Didn't you even say you read it on wikipedia? lol
Bill, do you think the civics quiz displayed a "liberal" or
"conservative" bias? I didn't notice one, but Beldin seems to think
it had a "conservative slant".
Beldin the Sorcerer
> WOW!
> You're a COMPLETE shithead
>
> They died off, so he didn't need to ADD more justices. He was going to
> have
> there be up to 15 of them
Thank you for your blatant dishonesty.
***
If I ever use any, it'll be the first time.
***
Did he not make sure that new
appointees were sympathetic to his programs? Is that not stacking?
***
In the context of FDR, his specific PLAN was to add ADDITIONAL SCOTUS AJ's
Each older member would get one to help (or counter vote against)
If you would rather call people names instead of debating this like
adults, then count me out.
****
You debate?
Seriously?
Since when?
popinjay999
wrote:
> "popinjay999" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
>
> ***
> Did he not make sure that new
> appointees were sympathetic to his programs? Is that not stacking?
>
> ***
> In the context of FDR, his specific PLAN was to add ADDITIONAL SCOTUS AJ's
>
> Each older member would get one to help (or counter vote against)
>
So, avoid my point one more time and I am done. Did he or did he not
appoint those who would rubber stamp his New Deal? Is that not
stacking?
Ok, y'know what? I don't really care what your answer is. I know
what's coming, I know what to expect from you. You obviously have a
good brain, that is obviously apparent to almost everyone on the
newsgroup. It's just too bad that you have so many personal issues.
Is that why you separated from your roommate? Is that why he moved to
a condo in Acton? Because he didn't want to associate with someone
who is so unpopular with so many personal issues? Essentially, he was
concerned that he might have to defend you if you were getting beat up.
BillB
>Bill, do you think the civics quiz displayed a "liberal" or
>"conservative" bias? I didn't notice one, but Beldin seems to think
>it had a "conservative slant".
No, I had no idea what he was talking about.
Beldin the Sorcerer
***
Peepee
Did you read the questions and answers?
25) Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation's commerce are appointed by elected
officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and
resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers
26) Business profit is:
A. cost minus revenue
B. assets minus liabilities
C. revenue minus expenses
D. selling price of a stock minus its purchase price
E. earnings minus assets
27) Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than
government's centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon
voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market
system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers' money
28) A progressive tax:
A. encourages more investment from those with higher incomes
B. is illustrated by a 6% sales tax
C. requires those with higher incomes to pay a higher ratio of taxes
to income
D. requires every income class to pay the same ratio of taxes to
income
E. earmarks revenues for poverty reduction
29) A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a
public good because:
A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
C. government construction contracts increase employment
D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a
flood
E. government pays for its construction, not citizens
popinjay999
wrote:
> Peepee
So then, like I was just saying, you cannot show a liberal or
conservative slant one way or the other. See how easy that was to
admit you were wrong, Beldin? Try it more often.
Travel A
"I almost missed the question about the Fed, but realized my mistake and
changed my answer before submitting the quiz."
I wrote:
Sure ya did, Splash (lol). You've proven yourself a dumb fuck so often,
why bother with the bogus self-"testimonials" no one could possibly
believe?
Beldin the Sorcerer
On Jan 22, 6:15 am, "Beldin the Sorcerer" <Beldin...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> "popinjay999" <paulpopin...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
>
> ***
> Did he not make sure that new
> appointees were sympathetic to his programs? Is that not stacking?
>
> ***
> In the context of FDR, his specific PLAN was to add ADDITIONAL SCOTUS AJ's
>
> Each older member would get one to help (or counter vote against)
>
So, avoid my point one more time and I am done.
***
I haven't once
Did he or did he not
appoint those who would rubber stamp his New Deal?
No, they just didn't assume them unconstitutional.
Are you historically ignorant?
Is that not
stacking?
***
Not in the context of FDR. FDR is the only president to
try and ADD additional justices.
Ok, y'know what? I don't really care what your answer is. I know
what's coming, I know what to expect from you. You obviously have a
good brain, that is obviously apparent to almost everyone on the
newsgroup. It's just too bad that you have so many personal issues.
Is that why you separated from your roommate? Is that why he moved to
a condo in Acton? Because he didn't want to associate with someone
who is so unpopular with so many personal issues? Essentially, he was
concerned that he might have to defend you if you were getting beat up.
***
you drunk?
Beldin the Sorcerer
***
of course these questions slant conservative, you idiot
da pickle
>> 28) A progressive tax:
>> A. encourages more investment from those with higher incomes
>> B. is illustrated by a 6% sales tax
>> C. requires those with higher incomes to pay a higher ratio of taxes
>> to income
>> D. requires every income class to pay the same ratio of taxes to
>> income
>> E. earmarks revenues for poverty reduction
> ***
> of course these questions slant conservative, you idiot
I presume you mean the choice of answers rather than the questions ... in
this one case, it is more of a definition than a question.
Would you think the "correct" answer should have substituted a new C
"C. is the only fair way to tax"
It would appear, to me, that the proposed "C" answer in the question is
simply a definition of what a progressive tax actually is without any
political bias at all. Please explain why seeking to discover if the
participant knows what a progressive tax is making the inquiry "slant
conservative?" I do not understand.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"da pickle" <jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TNCdnX1b1dc...@giganews.com...
It's a conservative definition.
It's one I happen to agree with, but I recognize my own economic
conservativism
The liberal definition of a progressive tax is that it taxes those more, who
can afford it more.
>
otter
wrote:
> > What is the sentence "the artic circle is shrinking." supposed to mean to
> > a "non-moron."?
>
> In the context of the post, as has been explained repeatedly to the
> satisfaction of NON-retards, that the ice cover in the arctic circle receded
> annually, but never completely melted off, though it was predicted to in the
> future
Hmmm, perhaps this is just worded poorly, but the Arctic Circle has no
connection with snow or ice cover. It is just the latitude above
which the sun doesn't rise on the winter solstice, or set on the
summer solstice. If you look at permafrost and ice cover maps, it has
little correlation to the Arctic Circle. For example, there are
glaciers even in the lower 48 states.
Perhaps you meant to say the area of the permanent ice cover within
the arctic circle is shrinking. That might make more sense, but there
is no reason to restrict it to the Arctic Circle.
Beldin the Sorcerer
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***
The discussion was specifically about the North Pole melting
Turbo the idiot started spouting off about the arctic ice shrinking in
general every summer.
I had to remind the dipstick that we were talking about the actual pole
melting off
FL Turbo
Just who is this Imperial "we" of which you speak?
You got a frog in your pocket or something?
It's your own damn fault that you get reminded of your mistaken
statement about a shrinking Arctic Circle, forever and ever.
Had you just admitted from the getgo "I was w-w-w-rong", ala Da Fonz,
you wouldn't get reminded so often.
But nooooo, you always have to try to tap dance your way out of ever
having to admit being wrong.
mo_charles
>
> US history 1 and World History
>
> Not tough
because they - and the questions about them - have absolutely nothing to
do with anything means they're tough? that's the logical equivalent of
saying obama's a lying piece of shit and iceman or bobtard pretending it
implies a love of george bush.
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> > you and billb weren't so similar, you might like eachother.
>
> Brag? Are you kidding? I was shocked and appalled at my score. I haven't
> done that badly on a test since...jeez, I can't remember when.
you posted your score because you were ashamed of it.
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BillB
>> > what kind of person brags about a quiz score on the internet? i think
>> > if
>> > you and billb weren't so similar, you might like eachother.
>>
>> Brag? Are you kidding? I was shocked and appalled at my score. I haven't
>> done that badly on a test since...jeez, I can't remember when.
>
> you posted your score because you were ashamed of it.
No. If you must know, I posted it because I thought it was coincidental that
Ramashiva got the same score, and I wanted to see if he was tripped up by
the same questions.
I thought the phrase "government of the people, by the people, for the
people" came from the Declaration of Independence. Do you think I am PROUD
of that?
mo_charles
>
> No. If you must know, I posted it because I thought it was coincidental that
> Ramashiva got the same score, and I wanted to see if he was tripped up by
> the same questions.
>
> I thought the phrase "government of the people, by the people, for the
> people" came from the Declaration of Independence. Do you think I am PROUD
> of that?
it seems like the kind of thing a mind like your's would get hung up over:
a meaningless detail that wasn't memorized properly.
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>
> Brag? Are you kidding? I was shocked and appalled at my score. I haven't
> done that badly on a test since...jeez, I can't remember when.
Bill did quite well on my Name-That-Commie contests.
Beldin the Sorcerer
"FL Turbo" <noe...@notime.com> wrote in message
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>
> Had you just admitted from the getgo "I was w-w-w-rong", ala Da Fonz,
> you wouldn't get reminded so often.
Shithead, the only one wrong in that discussion was you.
Alim, being a retarded mongoloid, simply couldn't put the statement in
context
>
> But nooooo, you always have to try to tap dance your way out of ever
> having to admit being wrong.
Because, shithead, I wasn't.
His idiotic assertion as to what I MUST have meant only shows he's an idiot
Pepe Papon
<paulpo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On Jan 21, 3:25�am, Pepe Papon <hitmeis...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tests aren't infallible. �I'll be happy to admit I was wrong If you or
>> someone else can explain why one answer was right and the other
>> wasn't.
>
>
>Pepe, at minimum I am 10 times more smart than you, yet you don't see
>me blaming the test, even though I missed a couple more than you did.
>Be a big boy.
Only 10 times? Don't be so modest.
Unfortunately, you're not smart enough to understand the point.
Pepe Papon
<jcpickels@(nospam)hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Pepe Papon"
>
>>>I thought several questions seemed to have difficult wording ... that is,
>>>what answer were they after, not so much what answer was "correct" in any
>>>meaningful way. I agree that #29 was strange but I do not know which
>>>other
>>>answer could possibly be "correct" other than the one they wanted.
>>
>> One answer said something to the effect that it was paid for with
>> public funds.
>
>29) A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public
>good because:
>A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
>B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
>C. government construction contracts increase employment
>D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a flood
>E. government pays for its construction, not citizens
>
>I presume you found "E" persuasive.
It was obviously a choice between "B" and "E". I took "E" to mean
that the project was paid for with public funds.
>Much like the LSAT or other such tests,
>one answer sometimes appears to be true but not quite as applicable as
>another.
The LSAT is a different type of test. It's supposed to measure one's
abiility to reason through subtle distinctions. This test purports
to measure knowledge.