Re: Ree Drummond doing Walmart Commercials

[John Kuthe]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:48:38 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>I just saw Ree Drummond ("The Pioneer Woman") doing a commercial for
>Walmart. I thought it was ironic that this country rancher girl was
>doing a commercial for a company that is infamous for Made in China,
>factory farming, and is the mecca for prepackaged and processed foods
>while carrying a bare minimum of cook-from-scratch ingredients.
>
>What a slut. Money (and sex) is the root of all Evil.
>
>http://www.ispot.tv/ad/AYgr/walmart-pioneer-woman-featuring-ree-drummond
>
>-sw

That's so ugly!! MalWart is an evil evil corporation and here's why!

Frontline expose:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reverend-Peyton%27s-Big-Damn-Band/Walmart-Killed-the-Country-Store-Lyrics.html


Results: Data from
http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688
2010 273063
2011 295422
2012 315053
2013 318417
2014 342632

John Kuthe...

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/15/2015 7:48 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> What a slut. Money (and sex) is the root of all Evil.

So you're lacking both - but still evil incarnate.

Hmmm...

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/15/2015 8:41 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:48:38 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> Money (and sex) is the root of all Evil.
>

> I forgot "mental illness".
>
> -sw
>

Your own is so insidious, eh?

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/15/2015 9:32 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> That's so ugly!! MalWart is

You're fucking INSANE!

[Cindy Hamilton]

You've posted this information to rec.food.cooking a number of times.
What do you hope to accomplish?

Cindy Hamilton

[John Kuthe]

I hope the information presented will sink in to dense United Statean
consumers who continue to feed the beast with their concsumer
dollars!!

STOP SPENDING $$ AT MALWART!!!

John Kuthe...

[Ophelia]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:p8322bd06ep8v0tc5...@4ax.com...

And you stop shouting and ordering others what to do and how to shop!!!


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[MisterDiddyWahDiddy]

Kuthe likes to bark out orders and use lots of EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!
He has mental problems you know.
>
--Bryan

[John Kuthe]

Yes, well controlled Bipolar Disorder.

I know tact and massaging the egos of others is one of my weak points.
I'm hoping the facts will sink in. In 30 years the united States went
from having a six million dollar tyrade deficit with China to a 342
BILLION dollar trade deficit, which is essentailly the U.S. handing
China a bunch of money!! And it all came out of stupid United
Statesian consumers! YOU!! I stopped spending my $$ at MalWart years
ago.

Talk about the issues Bryan. Not the people. You can learn a lot from
Bernie Sanders, whi in his intro in the 1st Dem debate didn't talk
about himself at all, only the issues!! Hard for a person with
unconmtrolled (no therapy) Narcissistic Personality Disorder to do, I
know.

John Kuthe...

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/16/2015 8:45 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> STOP SPENDING $$ AT MALWART!!!

EAT SHIT AND DIE NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Um, John? Only a handful of U.S. consumers are here at
rec.food.cooking to see the information. We've already
seen it, and if people here haven't stoped shopping at
Walmart, no amount of repetition will change their minds.

Let it go, really.

Cindy Hamilton

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/16/2015 9:17 AM, MisterDiddyWahDiddy wrote:
> Kuthe likes to bark out orders and use lots of EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!!!!!!!
> He has mental problems you know.
>> >

And you have sick homicidal fantasies running through your drug-addled
head, Bwyanne.

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/16/2015 9:30 AM, John Kuthe wrote:
> Talk about the issues Bryan. Not the people. You can learn a lot from
> Bernie Sanders, whi in his intro in the 1st Dem debate didn't talk
> about himself at all, only the issues!!

The arm-waving leftard also ducked questions like it was a staged game
of dodgeball.

He's n idiot, and you're even worse.

[Arroyo seco]

On 10/16/2015 9:30 AM, John Kuthe wrote:

> In 30 years the united States went
> from having a six million dollar tyrade deficit with China to a 342
> BILLION dollar trade deficit, which is essentailly the U.S. handing
> China a bunch of money!! And it all came out of stupid United
> Statesian consumers! YOU!! I stopped spending my $$ at MalWart years
> ago.

The level of stupidity you trot out here daily is simply stunning.

Let me guess, US consumers passed GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, etc?

You make me want to puke with your daily idiocy.

[John Kuthe]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:37:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

I will NOT let it go!! Good and true information is always necessary
for people to make informed decisions.

John Kuthe...

[muddy paws]

John Kuthe wrote:
> I will NOT let it go!! Good and true information is always necessary
> for people to make informed decisions.

Good information from the Fed:

https://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications/fedgazette/the-walmart-effect-poison-or-antidote-for-local-communities

Given the terror that Wal-Mart is purported to inflict on communities,
the fedgazette's findings of the firm's economic influence are almost
mundane. Despite its kill-them-all reputation, Wal-Mart is not the
threat that many fear, at least in terms of economic benchmarks commonly
associated with healthy, growing communities.

[William]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:45:15 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I hope the information presented will sink in to dense United Statean
>consumers who continue to feed the beast with their concsumer
>dollars!!
>
>STOP SPENDING $$ AT MALWART!!!
>
>John Kuthe...

I'm curious John, how did Walmart offend you personally? I would like
to know. I suspect you have some mysterious connection to one of
Walmart's competitors who has been destroyed by competition...yes/no?
Americans, rich and poor love to save money at Walmart and they don't
care where in the world Walmart gets the goods...they just want value
for their money. Walmart logistcs are second to none.

William

[John Kuthe]

All of the above!!

I don't care how wonderful their stock handling and logistics are,
they are an EVIL CORPORATION!! Mammon worshiping scum!

John Kuthe...

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'd like to apologize to everyone in rec.food.cooking for
getting involved with this. Having reached the end of my
rope, I've tied a knot and am hanging on to what little
good sense I have left.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7d922877-7598-49f7...@googlegroups.com...

> I'd like to apologize to everyone in rec.food.cooking for
> getting involved with this. Having reached the end of my
> rope, I've tied a knot and am hanging on to what little
> good sense I have left.

It is time to hang on to your sanity.


--
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[John Kuthe]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

$342,632,000,000 last year!! From U.S. to CHINA!!! And that's only in
trade deficit!

Thanks to YOU!! Not ME!!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 20:21:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Cindy Hamilton" <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7d922877-7598-49f7...@googlegroups.com...
>
>> I'd like to apologize to everyone in rec.food.cooking for
>> getting involved with this. Having reached the end of my
>> rope, I've tied a knot and am hanging on to what little
>> good sense I have left.
>
>It is time to hang on to your sanity.

Well, it's a pretty heavy cross top bear when one realizes they GAVE
$342 BILLION to China last year!! :-(


John Kuthe...

[Ophelia]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:olj22bp5do6o6ib1j...@4ax.com...

John, why don't you take your meds and stop trying to bully us. It won't
work and you will just end up with nobody reading you:(


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[S Viemeister]

On 10/16/2015 4:31 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> John, why don't you take your meds and stop trying to bully us. It
> won't work and you will just end up with nobody reading you:(
>

"mark as read" makes this group much less annoying.

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote in message
news:d8d6ie...@mid.individual.net...

Yes:(




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[muddy paws]

He's a fascist bugger now isn't he?

[muddy paws]

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:19:53 -0400, William <big...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:45:15 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope the information presented will sink in to dense United Statean
>>> consumers who continue to feed the beast with their concsumer
>>> dollars!!
>>>
>>> STOP SPENDING $$ AT MALWART!!!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> I'm curious John, how did Walmart offend you personally? I would like
>> to know. I suspect you have some mysterious connection to one of
>> Walmart's competitors who has been destroyed by competition...yes/no?
>> Americans, rich and poor love to save money at Walmart and they don't
>> care where in the world Walmart gets the goods...they just want value
>> for their money. Walmart logistcs are second to none.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> All of the above!!

Bullshit.

> I don't care how wonderful their stock handling and logistics are,
> they are an EVIL CORPORATION!! Mammon worshiping scum!
>
> John Kuthe...

You're as crazy as a bedbug.

[muddy paws]

Oh well, that's what you get for trying to reason with an ideologue...

;-(

[muddy paws]

John Kuthe wrote:
>> I'd like to apologize to everyone in rec.food.cooking for
>> >getting involved with this. Having reached the end of my
>> >rope, I've tied a knot and am hanging on to what little
>> >good sense I have left.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
> $342,632,000,000 last year!! From U.S. to CHINA!!! And that's only in
> trade deficit!
>
> Thanks to YOU!! Not ME!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Hey K00ky, pffft!!!!

[muddy paws]

In honor of YOU I am going to replace Target with Wal Mart for ALL my
shopping now, food and incidentals.

Enjoy!

[muddy paws]

He's already caused me to re-commit to shopping Wal Mart exclusively.

Persuasive guy, eh?

[sf]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:35:30 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
wrote:

He's overly enthusiastic, to the point of manic - but I'm not picking
up bully.

> >
> He's already caused me to re-commit to shopping Wal Mart exclusively.
>
> Persuasive guy, eh?

Wot? You're forsaking Target... the one with sex tapes running over
the sound system in randomly hit stores? What kind of a person are
you?

--

sf

[muddy paws]

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:35:30 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:olj22bp5do6o6ib1j...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 20:21:42 +0100, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> John, why don't you take your meds and stop trying to bully us. It
>>> won't work and you will just end up with nobody reading you:(
>>>
> He's overly enthusiastic, to the point of manic - but I'm not picking
> up bully.

True enough, more k00k than bully.

>> He's already caused me to re-commit to shopping Wal Mart exclusively.
>>
>> Persuasive guy, eh?
>
> Wot? You're forsaking Target... the one with sex tapes running over
> the sound system in randomly hit stores? What kind of a person are
> you?

LOL!

Maybe one of my checkers will look like Jennifer Anniston...

Hey a guy can dream.

;-)

[sf]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:26:05 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
wrote:

Yabut, wouldn't it be nice if all those 19¢ (not $) an hour jobs were
back in the USA? We could even double their wages to account for the
cost of living here! John is just having trouble admitting that ship
sailed a long time ago. It's a global economy now. We innovate and
move manufacturing offshore when circumstances dictate.

--

sf

[muddy paws]

sf wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:26:05 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>> William wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:45:15 -0500, John Kuthe <John...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I hope the information presented will sink in to dense United Statean
>>>> consumers who continue to feed the beast with their concsumer
>>>> dollars!!
>>>>
>>>> STOP SPENDING $$ AT MALWART!!!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> I'm curious John, how did Walmart offend you personally? I would like
>>> to know. I suspect you have some mysterious connection to one of
>>> Walmart's competitors who has been destroyed by competition...yes/no?
>>> Americans, rich and poor love to save money at Walmart and they don't
>>> care where in the world Walmart gets the goods...they just want value
>>> for their money. Walmart logistcs are second to none.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>> He's a fascist bugger now isn't he?
>
> Yabut, wouldn't it be nice if all those 19¢ (not $) an hour jobs were
> back in the USA?

Darned right it would!

> We could even double their wages to account for the
> cost of living here!

Gladly!

That said Wal Mart did kick voluntarily their starting wage up to $9/hr.

> John is just having trouble admitting that ship
> sailed a long time ago.

30 years ago.

> It's a global economy now. We innovate and
> move manufacturing offshore when circumstances dictate.

Not my favorite aspect of it by a long shot, that and all the trillions
of corporate cash being horded offshore.

And that inversion Burger King did with Tim Horton's to get the
improbably lower Canadian corporate tax rate sucks big time.

Funny, you never hear old k00ky mention that one...

[sf]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:46:01 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>

Seems to me that they'll do whatever is necessary to lure you back!
"We have heavy breathing and bodacious checkers". Just sayin'. :)


--

sf

[muddy paws]

LOL!

All my closest Target has for checkers are older folks and some very
bored looking but super pleasant Latino women.

Perhaps if I handed out candy skulls...

Viva el dia de los muertos!

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/15/2015 11:32 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

> That's so ugly!! MalWart is an evil evil corporation and here's why!
>
> Frontline expose:
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/

Some article:
Economist Brink Lindsey of the Cato Institute sees it another way. "I
think Wal-Mart is good for America," he says. "Wal-Mart is doing what
the American economy is all about, which is producing things consumers
want to buy … offering consumers a wide range of goods at rock-bottom
prices. It is meeting the market test."

[muddy paws]

An accurate analysis for sure.

[sf]

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:57:14 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > It's a global economy now. We innovate and
> > move manufacturing offshore when circumstances dictate.
>
>
> Not my favorite aspect of it by a long shot, that and all the trillions
> of corporate cash being horded offshore.
>
> And that inversion Burger King did with Tim Horton's to get the
> improbably lower Canadian corporate tax rate sucks big time.
>
> Funny, you never hear old k00ky mention that one...

Walmart is easy pickins. Think about it. Two of the Waltons rank
among the top ten richest people in the world and it's all thanks to
Sam, an honest guy who did the right thing by his employees and
customers. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew the
shenanigans being played with his employees today. $9 hr is a total
farce, as will the $12 be if or when it is finally reached. Do the
math. If you have no assets or savings to dip into, can you live on
that?

--

sf

[muddy paws]

Do the math on a multiplier effect from a 15$/hr. minimum wage.

That reverberates through the economy and suddenly every basic good or
service costs 40-50% more.

Have you _ever_ studied basic microeconomics?

Ever?

My God.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/17/2015 1:51 AM, sf wrote:

> Walmart is easy pickins. Think about it. Two of the Waltons rank
> among the top ten richest people in the world and it's all thanks to
> Sam, an honest guy who did the right thing by his employees and
> customers. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew the
> shenanigans being played with his employees today. $9 hr is a total
> farce, as will the $12 be if or when it is finally reached. Do the
> math. If you have no assets or savings to dip into, can you live on
> that?
>

Live? Doubt it. Survive? Yes, if you are living with mom. That may
not be such a bad wage for a high school kid, but it is not a living
wage. Nor can a large retailer expect to staff their stores with high
school kids.

WalMart is always the easy target, but most all retailers fit into the
same situation. The solution though, is higher prices. Go back to 1960
when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
were paid a better wage, they had people that could assist you and had
knowledge of the items they sold. From my memory, it was early 1960s
that K Mart and a few now defunct others changed to the lower price
format we see today. Shoppers voted with their dollars and flocked to
them putting the department stores out of business.

With some exceptions, the majority of the people say they want to see
the help paid more, yet they still look for the lowest possible price.
Yes, I only want my goods made in the USA, but I only want to pay China
prices.

OB food- Can anyone recommend a good wine to go with my dollar menu burger?

[muddy paws]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/17/2015 1:51 AM, sf wrote:
>
>> Walmart is easy pickins. Think about it. Two of the Waltons rank
>> among the top ten richest people in the world and it's all thanks to
>> Sam, an honest guy who did the right thing by his employees and
>> customers. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew the
>> shenanigans being played with his employees today. $9 hr is a total
>> farce, as will the $12 be if or when it is finally reached. Do the
>> math. If you have no assets or savings to dip into, can you live on
>> that?
>>
>
> Live? Doubt it. Survive? Yes, if you are living with mom.

Or it's a second job, supplemental income in retirement, etc.

Lotsa options there beyond your example.

> That may
> not be such a bad wage for a high school kid, but it is not a living
> wage.

Depends on how one lives, how many wage earners are in the family, etc.

> Nor can a large retailer expect to staff their stores with high
> school kids.

And yet they manage too with both younger and older employees.

> WalMart is always the easy target, but most all retailers fit into the
> same situation. The solution though, is higher prices.

No it is NOT!

That raises the cost of basic goods and services for ALL, but it hits
the poor the hardest.

> Go back to 1960
> when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
> were paid a better wage,

Oh really?

Citation?

> they had people that could assist you and had
> knowledge of the items they sold. From my memory, it was early 1960s
> that K Mart and a few now defunct others changed to the lower price
> format we see today. Shoppers voted with their dollars and flocked to
> them putting the department stores out of business.

Retail is a moving target, always.

> With some exceptions, the majority of the people say they want to see
> the help paid more, yet they still look for the lowest possible price.
> Yes, I only want my goods made in the USA, but I only want to pay China
> prices.

Too true.

> OB food- Can anyone recommend a good wine to go with my dollar menu burger?

Annie Green Springs?

[Dave Smith]

On 2015-10-17 11:11 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> WalMart is always the easy target, but most all retailers fit into the
> same situation. The solution though, is higher prices. Go back to 1960
> when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
> were paid a better wage, they had people that could assist you and had
> knowledge of the items they sold.

They did? I worked part time in a department store. They paid a little
more than minimum wage. Most of the staff were part time, because if
people worked more than 24 hours in a week they were eligible for the
mediocre benefits.

[sf]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:11:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

> OB food- Can anyone recommend a good wine to go with my dollar menu burger?

I'm surprised it wasn't consumed on the way home.

--

sf

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:11:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

Too bad Ed. You want "American" made quality, you gotta pay "American"
level prices! You will NEVER for example be able to get my Chocolate
Covered Cherries at China prices! Ever!! You want the good stuff, you
gotta pay the good stuff prices. You want cheap Chinese JUNK? Pay the
cheap Chinese JUNK prices.

John Kuthe...

[meda...@gmail.com]

Almost nobody can get your chocolate covered cherries at any price because you fuck them up. You admit yourself you had to eat most of them.

[Questa]

Sqwertz wrote:
> Four Loko.

Shut up, sot.

[Questa]

He's still watching reruns of Lucy and Ethel and trying to get it right.

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT), meda...@gmail.com wrote:


...
>
>Almost nobody can get your chocolate covered cherries at any price because you fuck them up. You admit yourself you had to eat most of them.

Well, it was my first attempt at making them for sale. Leakers are a
problem I';ve always had with my Chocolazte Covered Cherries, and I
did NOT "fuck them up" as you say, they were all absolutely delicious
and the best Chocolate Covered Cherries ever, anywhere!! Ask Ed.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:34:23 -0600, Questa <us...@example.net> wrote:
...

> He's still watching reruns of Lucy and Ethel and trying to get it right.

I've been making my Christmas Candy for 30+ years now, and my
Chocolate Covered Cherries for 20 years. I have GOT them right,
believe me!! Not perfect, each and every one always, as I've always
had a leaker problem with my Chocolate Covered Cherries, which I've
been trying to address adequately ever since I invented my recipe for
them. Maybe someday I will get them all perfect. I've made some pretty
close!

John Kuthe...

[dsi1]

I just got me some 12V Chinese batteries for my ceiling fans that works just spiffy. I could get it at Walgreens for over 6 bucks for 2 but I got 10 of these for under 5 bucks on eBay. I'd be nuts to buy it anywhere else!!!!

[Questa]

You should move to Greece where the give gubmint pensions to confectioners.

Do you cut hair too?

[meda...@gmail.com]

20 years and you still can't get it right. Pretty much the story of your life. Everything you have a passion for you suck at. Nurse Buttplug.

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 12:04:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

...

>
>I just got me some 12V Chinese batteries for my ceiling fans that works just spiffy. I could get it at Walgreens for over 6 bucks for 2 but I got 10 of these for under 5 bucks on eBay. I'd be nuts to buy it anywhere else!!!!

Cheap Chinese JUNK is just that!! Glad you're happy with substandard
batteries. After all, it's all about YOU, YOU, YOU, you egocentric
nood!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

20 years and I've make many very good and VERY delicious Chocolate
Covered Cherries. Ask Bryan even, and he hates my guts! I used to give
him and his boxes of my Christmas Candy.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 06:01:34 +1100, Jeßus <j...@invalid.lan> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:11:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>

><snip>

>
>>The solution though, is higher prices. Go back to 1960
>>when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
>>were paid a better wage, they had people that could assist you and had
>>knowledge of the items they sold.
>

>I wish things would go back to that way. I support those business that
>do still operate that way, and I'm perfectly happy to pay more for it.
>Looking at the big picture, IMO it is/was of benefit to everyone to do
>so.

>
>>With some exceptions, the majority of the people say they want to see
>>the help paid more, yet they still look for the lowest possible price.
>

>They can't see anything beyond their own short-term self interest.
>It costs them in other ways though.

Yep, it sure does!

John Kuthe...

[Questa]

PKB - big time!

[Cheri]

"Questa" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
news:mvu4bf$chl$5...@news.albasani.net...

I like See's chocolate covered cherries and usually buy a box during the
holidays and make them last.

Cheri

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/17/2015 11:22 AM, muddy paws wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
>> Go back to 1960
>> when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
>> were paid a better wage,
>
> Oh really?
>
> Citation?

I'll get you a note from my Aunt Emily. She worked for John Wanamaker
in downtown Philadelphia at about double minimum wage.

[Cheri]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:v5552b1ipham5kkcn...@4ax.com...

Since you can't possible know that they are the best it's only your
*opinion.* Personally, I think See's are the best, but that, of course, is
just my opinion too.

Cheri

[sf]

What store pays double minimum wage now?

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[Ed Pawlowski]

The better stores had both full and part time help. Some of the sales
people made a decent wage with added commissions. My neighbor worked
for Sears and made enough to buy a modest house, used car, support a
bunch of kids. Typical retail wages don't do that any more.

[Kalmia]

On Saturday, October 17, 2015 at 11:11:24 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Go back to 1960
> when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They
> were paid a better wage, they had people that could assist you and had
> knowledge of the items they sold.

Better wage? Heck, I worked in one of those dept stores - for a buck an hour. That was the minimum and ppl with 25 yrs service made the same.

Course, a decent greeting card was a QUAWter. but the quality was in most of the products.

[dsi1]

I could buy batteries for 6 times more at Walmart or whatever the heck
store you find acceptable but they're gonna get their batteries from
manufacturers who get their stuff from China or other places you'll find
even more abhorrent. I mean, they ain't nuts or stupid.

My guess is that time has passed you by. You're a guy of the 00's. The
1900's that is. Hee hee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmLh2LMT2Gc




P.S. Yes, Virginia, it is all about me, me, me. Who else is it going to
be all about? You, you, you? I don't think so!!!!

[Questa]

Costco - $17/hr.

[Questa]

LOL!!!

[graham]

On 17/10/2015 9:00 AM, muddy paws wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:57:14 -0600, muddy paws <us...@example.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a global economy now. We innovate and
>>>> move manufacturing offshore when circumstances dictate.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not my favorite aspect of it by a long shot, that and all the trillions
>>> of corporate cash being horded offshore.
>>>
>>> And that inversion Burger King did with Tim Horton's to get the
>>> improbably lower Canadian corporate tax rate sucks big time.
>>>
>>> Funny, you never hear old k00ky mention that one...

>>
>> Walmart is easy pickins. Think about it. Two of the Waltons rank
>> among the top ten richest people in the world and it's all thanks to
>> Sam, an honest guy who did the right thing by his employees and
>> customers. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew the
>> shenanigans being played with his employees today. $9 hr is a total
>> farce, as will the $12 be if or when it is finally reached. Do the
>> math. If you have no assets or savings to dip into, can you live on
>> that?
>
>

> Do the math on a multiplier effect from a 15$/hr. minimum wage.
>
> That reverberates through the economy and suddenly every basic good or
> service costs 40-50% more.
>
> Have you _ever_ studied basic microeconomics?
>
> Ever?
>
> My God.
>
>
>
Next you'll be bringing up the Laffer Curve.
Graham

[graham]

On 17/10/2015 9:11 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/17/2015 1:51 AM, sf wrote:
>

>> Walmart is easy pickins. Think about it. Two of the Waltons rank
>> among the top ten richest people in the world and it's all thanks to
>> Sam, an honest guy who did the right thing by his employees and
>> customers. He'd be rolling over in his grave if he knew the
>> shenanigans being played with his employees today. $9 hr is a total
>> farce, as will the $12 be if or when it is finally reached. Do the
>> math. If you have no assets or savings to dip into, can you live on
>> that?
>>
>

> Live? Doubt it. Survive? Yes, if you are living with mom. That may
> not be such a bad wage for a high school kid, but it is not a living
> wage. Nor can a large retailer expect to staff their stores with high
> school kids.
>

> WalMart is always the easy target, but most all retailers fit into the

> same situation. The solution though, is higher prices. Go back to 1960

> when we had full service department stores with real sales people. They

> were paid a better wage, they had people that could assist you and had
> knowledge of the items they sold.

And the top rate of tax was over 90%! And the US economy was *very* healthy!
Graham

[Ed Pawlowski]

True, but they are not totally comparable. Perhaps a cashier, but many
of the other jobs are closer to warehouse than retail clerk on the sales
floor.

Both my kids worked for a local retail chain when they were in high
school in the 80s and it was minimum wage, maybe a nickle more after time.

[meda...@gmail.com]

I've seen pictures. Pure garbage in presentation. I'm sure they taste great and I'm sure you know that since you eat most of them. The ones you give away get dumped because they look like expired, defective Sees. Plus, nobody eats candy given away by creepy old men who smell vaguely of semen.

[sf]

They're unionized and a warehouse. I'm asking about retail sales:
Sears, Penny's, Walmart, Target, Macy's etc.

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[sf]

Bernie wants to take us back to those days. Think it will work?

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sf

[Questa]

What happens to a business's bottom line when you force them to absorb a
50% labor cost hike?

Grow a brain.

You must be Trudeau voter :-(

[Questa]

An absurd situation at best.

> And the US economy was *very*
> healthy!
> Graham

Due to what?

A postwar boom?

Even more wars to come (Korea, Vietnam, etc.)?

I'm getting sick and tired of uneducated canuckleheads mouthing sound
bites about things they have NO clue one.

But enjoy the mess you've got coming with Trudeau - he'll give your
economy a $5hr. national day care punch in the gut, you idjit.

[Questa]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/17/2015 6:26 PM, Questa wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 17:12:54 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/17/2015 11:22 AM, muddy paws wrote:
>>>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Go back to 1960
>>>>>> when we had full service department stores with real sales people.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> were paid a better wage,
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Citation?
>>>>
>>>> I'll get you a note from my Aunt Emily. She worked for John Wanamaker
>>>> in downtown Philadelphia at about double minimum wage.
>>>
>>> What store pays double minimum wage now?
>>>
>> Costco - $17/hr.
>
> True, but they are not totally comparable.

Agreed 100%!

> Perhaps a cashier, but many
> of the other jobs are closer to warehouse than retail clerk on the sales
> floor.

Starting is still $17, iirc.

> Both my kids worked for a local retail chain when they were in high
> school in the 80s and it was minimum wage, maybe a nickle more after time.

Costco benefits from a much smaller work force - try finding a sales
associate or floor worker and you'll see.

They assign more tasks to less people, then pay up for retention which
means less re-training and churn.

It's a fine model.

But it's a serve yourself warehouse model.

[Questa]

Ooooh!!!!!

That was BRUTAL.

[Questa]

He thinks we're going to remake into a nice supersized Denmark.

Utterly delusional but refreshingly honest man.

Free state college - 70 billion$ worth.

Wowie!

[sf]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:34:26 -0600, Questa <us...@example.net> wrote:

> What happens to a business's bottom line when you force them to absorb a
> 50% labor cost hike?

So the company makes less profit, which is reflected on Wall Street.
How rich should the individual Walton family members be when they die?

You know by this time that Walmart is positioning itself to give
Amazon some healthy online competition, so you can conclude that also
means fewer brick & mortar stores.

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sf

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/17/2015 10:06 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:34:26 -0600, Questa <us...@example.net> wrote:
>
>> What happens to a business's bottom line when you force them to absorb a
>> 50% labor cost hike?
>
> So the company makes less profit, which is reflected on Wall Street.
> How rich should the individual Walton family members be when they die?

How rich should anyone be? It is a moral/ethical question as much as an
economic one. What is well known is that corporate CEOs in general are
making far more than their employees compared to 30 years ago. They are
doing nothing more to earn it.

>
> You know by this time that Walmart is positioning itself to give
> Amazon some healthy online competition, so you can conclude that also
> means fewer brick & mortar stores.
>

Driven by customers voting with their dollars. Amazon is going to be
hard to catch. We've been buying more and more on line. I bought a new
car a couple of weeks ago. Thanks to the internet I was able to get a
better price than I could with traditional negotiating. I used Truecar.com

[Questa]

sf wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:34:26 -0600, Questa <us...@example.net> wrote:
>
>> What happens to a business's bottom line when you force them to absorb a
>> 50% labor cost hike?
>
> So the company makes less profit, which is reflected on Wall Street.

Um...and in the actual bottom line, which then impacts their credit rating.

> How rich should the individual Walton family members be when they die?

WHO FUCKING CARES?????


Sell a zillion whatevers, be a zillionaire!

I don't proctor these things.

> You know by this time that Walmart is positioning itself to give
> Amazon some healthy online competition, so you can conclude that also
> means fewer brick & mortar stores.

I've used Wal Mart's online pick up at store interface.

It's...marginal at best...

[sf]

That's too bad. I used Sears and it was flawless.

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sf

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 18:42:18 -0600, Questa <us...@example.net> wrote:
...
>

>Ooooh!!!!!
>
>That was BRUTAL.

You have to remember medavis@whatever the fuck is in cronic PAIN!
Physical pain, and itr has infested his personality in the worst way.
Sad and true. As a nurse (RN), I have to have some empatrhy for him
for it too. But he does wear it thin at times.

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:10:13 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
...

>I like See's chocolate covered cherries and usually buy a box during the
>holidays and make them last.
>
>Cheri

I'll bet even See's makes theirs with those atrocious maraschino fake
candy balls! Not me, I use REAL Bing cherries, hand pitted and soaked
overnight in Majic Juice (yes liquor is involved!) That;s wqhy I had
to invent my own. Every chocolazte covered cherry I ever bought and
ate had one of those marachino things in it!! EVERY ONE!!! No one
I';ve ever sampled used real cherries. I do!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 14:12:29 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

Are they maraschino cherries in them? Bet they are!

John Kuthe...

[Nancy Young]

Same here. I've used it a few times and never a problem.

nancy

[Cheri]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:0sd62bdqqkenvlv3o...@4ax.com...

So what? I LIKE THEM. I don't much care how you make yours, but I'm glad you
like them.

Cheri

[Cheri]

"John Kuthe" <John...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:f3e62btl8uuhgo9cp...@4ax.com...

AGAIN...who cares, I like them.

Cheri

[Questa]

K00ky, you're in head pain, always.

Get a life soon.

[Questa]

John Kuthe wrote:
> Every chocolazte covered cherry I ever bought and
> ate had one of those marachino things in it!! EVERY ONE!!! No one
> I';ve ever sampled used real cherries. I do!
>
> John Kuthe...

Calm the fuck down, son....

[John Kuthe]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:16:03 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

True enough. But IMHO liking fake maraschino cherries more than real
ones is kinda childish. Ever see how they make maraschino cherries?
First they suck all the color and flavor out of cherries leaving these
whitish translucent orbs (probably flavorless) then they infuse them
with artificial color and flavor, mostly sugar!

As Bryan says, white trash cooking!!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Have YOU ever had a chocolate covered cherry made from real cherries?

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:16:33 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>

Egocentric and childish. You can like them all you want, certainly
does not make them fine cuisine!

John Kuthe...

[Questa]

John Kuthe wrote:
> As Bryan says, white trash cooking!!
>
> John Kuthe...

Wow.

Thanks for the rampant bigotry, you asshole.

Maybe you'd like to illumine us in what "black trash cooking" is...

[Questa]

I prefer dark chocolate caramels.

[Questa]

Who the FUCK are you to determine that for her anyway?

You're a nutcase!

[meda...@gmail.com]

Like I've told you a dozen times, I WAS in chronic pain. I had surgery. Now I'm not in pain. You, however, are still a prancing, mincing, lisping Faggot.

[Questa]

Yer kinder, gentler, etc, yeah?

[John Kuthe]

Glad to hear you are no longer in chronic physiological pain.

Now if you could just stop being such a raging asshole!! :-)

John Kuthe...