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zxcvbob

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Aug 21, 2011, 5:42:13 PM8/21/11
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Thursday night I bought some "Lamb Country Style Ribs" from
> Walmart. I got these once and they were quite good. And this is the
> only place in town that sells these things. I thought they felt kinda
> warm when I bought them this time but I went ahead anyway. They
> didn't expire for 10 days and were cyrovaced.
>
> On Friday when I cut the package open just about 2" the stench almost
> made me ralph. I put them in the freezer and called the meat
> department and told them they temperature problem in their lamb
> section. They said they'd look at it.
>
> Today when I took them back, the same packages of lamb were there as
> when I bought mine, plus more. I felt them. All warm. I called over
> a stocker and he said talk to another guy. So the other guy comes
> over and I said, "Feel the temperature of this. There is no way that
> this is 41 degress. All these packages, fell em all." He didn't even
> want to feel them. He said his managers check the temperatures of
> this stuff "every few hours" and they tell me it's OK. "I hear what
> you're saying, but it's OK", he says. I said, "No! it's NOT OK.
> There's no way these are safe. They're all rotten. I just returned
> some! These packages are about 60 degrees!". I asked that he take
> the temperature of the meat with his infrared. Two other customers
> standing nearby, overhearing this, came over and felt the packages and
> looked at the (now two) guys and they agreed they have a problem. One
> of them said, "Too bad the health department is probably closed
> today".
>
> A manager must have sensed the commotion going on and appears out of
> nowhere and I explained to her what I'm trying to get through to these
> guys. She refused to feel the meat as well, finally telling the one
> guy to go get a thermometer. Turns out he has one just inside the
> door 10 seconds away.
>
> The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has
> temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F. The lamb was 60F, just like I
> said. I told them it's all rotten, open it and smell it. I'll give
> you $100 if it's not rotten. Manager tells them to pull it all, very
> reluctantly - she even stuttered.
>
> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>
> This is why Walmart Sucks. Before I left the store a half hour later
> I wanted to see if they really pulled the meat, and they did. All the
> lamb, pork, and variety meats were gone from that whole section. At
> least $1,200 worth at retail.
>
> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>
> -sw


If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health department
tomorrow. See if you can get the whole store closed down for a few days ;-)

-Bob

Julie Bove

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Aug 21, 2011, 5:45:57 PM8/21/11
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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We don't go there too often. Our Walmart doesn't have a proper grocery
although they do have a few aisles of food. The parking lot had a lot of
open spaces and there were few customers in the store. Very odd. They were
in the middle of a remodel and a sign boasted of clearance prices but we
didn't see many things on clearance.

They (just like every other store around here) were out of the tuna Fancy
Feast Appetizers. I have had to mail order them twice. They are my cat's
favorites.

We didn't buy much. Toothbrush holder, trash can, piece of steak jerky and
some T-Shirts.

As for the warm meats I have seen this elsewhere. The Waldbaums closest to
where we lived on Staten Island was known to sell dairy products that were
at the wrong temp. Warm to the touch and yet the clearly visible
thermometer showed the correct temp.

After we had that week long power outage they tried to sell the meats that
had been sitting out and warm. And they weren't the only store to have
tried to do that. They came out on the news and said to wait two weeks
before buying anything perishable to make sure the health department had
time to do the proper checks.

I also remember an incident when I was a child. A neighbor kid came over
all excited and told us we must go the to grocery store up the street
because they had TV dinners for 10 cents. Turns out the freezer had broken
and the stuff was sitting there defrosting.


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Dave Bugg

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Aug 21, 2011, 6:36:27 PM8/21/11
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zxcvbob wrote:

> If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health
> department tomorrow. See if you can get the whole store closed down
> for a few days ;-)

A health district will not shut down the whole store. Nor would they shut
down the entire grocery section of the store. What will happen is an
inspection from hell. They will look and check extensively all the
refrigeration and hot-holding equipment in all grocery departments (deli,
dairy, meats, vegetables, etc). They will demand to see the logs of the
temperature records going back for at least 6 months. They will check
expiration dates of products. Examination of food-handling permits and
employee records will occur. Pop questions will be asked of employees on
what the proper temperature range needs to be under specific circumstances.
The health inspection team will examine any complaints of food poisoning
during those six months and attempt to link any reports back to WalMart.
This may even include interviewing those who made past complaints.

Every bit of meat in the offending refrigeration display case will be
required to be safely disposed of and the disposal will be confirmed by the
health department. The meat that is normally stocked in the offending
refrigerated section, but is stored in back, will be ordered not to be sold.
Samples of all the back-room stock of meat scheduled to go into the
offending refrigerated display case, but which are still located in the
cooler and the freezer in the back, will be taken and tested before the rest
of the stock will be released for sale. If non-frozen stock goes past the
expiration date while awaiting test results, it must be safely disposed of.
The reason for this is to keep meat, which HAD been in the display case but
was pulled because of a consumer complaint, from being accidentally or
purposefully mixxed in with the non-affected stock and put back for resale.

At minimum, the offending refrigerated case will not be allowed to be used
until a certified repair agent inspects, affects any needed repairs, and
provides a certification of repair. If the health district chooses, it can
require that ALL refrigeration units be inspected, have thermostats
calibrated, and a certificate provided demonstrating compliance.

Now, the managers who certified that temperature checks were done, and who
signed off on their 'safe' temperature, will be investigated by the health
district for potential criminal wrong doing. If it is found that either
falsification or fabrications of the temperature logs occured, the health
department can turn over the results of the investigation with a
recommendation of criminal prosecution.

The store itself can receive a fine, on top of all the money that must be
spent satisfying the health district inspection requirements and loss of
sales. The fine will be hefty and will cover the costs of health district
staff time and materials. Although the health district does not contact news
sources and publicize bad inspections, it is public record which a news
agency can easily obtain and from which can create a news story. Friends of
mine, while I was working for our health district, would always ask me which
food establishments I wouldn't eat at.

--
Dave
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."......
Robert Heinlein


Brooklyn1

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Aug 21, 2011, 7:36:52 PM8/21/11
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Of course they stared at you, because they realized you're a
certifiable nut case.

>If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health department
>tomorrow. See if you can get the whole store closed down for a few days ;-)

The sqwertz dwarf is whacked... rotten is how lamb is supposed to
smell... lamb stinks, lamb is the limberger of meat... the Greeks love
lamb because it smells like Greek style! Ahahahaha. . . .

The sqwertz dwarf is posting his tirade because he hates Walmart is
all... it's all a made up fantasy, a LIE!
The mick will vouch, he is certainly intimate with Greek style:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=greek+style

TFM®

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Aug 21, 2011, 8:01:48 PM8/21/11
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But of course the 60 degree meat temperature validates all you're saying.

I take back anything good I've said about you.

TFM®

Bob Molder

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Aug 21, 2011, 8:16:53 PM8/21/11
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Hey he's right you know, those temperatures were unacceptable and the meat
should of been pulled. Hey Sqwirts which wallyworld was it?

Ed Pawlowski

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Aug 21, 2011, 9:26:41 PM8/21/11
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote

> Today when I took them back, the same packages of lamb were there as
> when I bought mine, plus more. I felt them. All warm. I called over
> a stocker and he said talk to another guy. So the other guy comes
> over and I said, "Feel the temperature of this. There is no way that
> this is 41 degress. All these packages, fell em all." He didn't even
> want to feel them. He said his managers check the temperatures of
> this stuff "every few hours" and they tell me it's OK. "I hear what
> you're saying, but it's OK", he says. I said, "No! it's NOT OK.

> She refused to feel the meat as well, finally telling the one
> guy to go get a thermometer. Turns out he has one just inside the
> door 10 seconds away.
>
> The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has
> temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F.

> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the


> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>
> This is why Walmart Sucks.

I don't blame the entire Walmart chain, I blame the incompetent managers.
Idiots like that can work at any store, chain or independent.

You should report it to the health department and WM headquarters and let
then know this store had morons in the meat department. Maybe some training
is needed.

ItsJoanNotJoann

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Aug 21, 2011, 9:37:28 PM8/21/11
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On Aug 21, 4:42 pm, zxcvbob <zxcv...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health department
> tomorrow.  See if you can get the whole store closed down for a few days ;-)
>
> -Bob
>
>
I agree with Bob. I'd be calling the healt department on Monday and
alerting them to the problem and also let them know how the 'meat
people' were dragging their feet about checking temperatures. I bet
anything they'll put that meat back out to be sold on Monday after
it's thoroughly chilled.

Brooklyn1

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:02:40 PM8/21/11
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Bob Molder wrote:

And you choose to believe that peepee brained maggot... Walmart has
the most modern refrigeration of any store... I stopped buying
refrigerated/frozen foods elsewhere, Walmart is the best. The only
other place I buy cold foods is from Stewart's stores, because they
are a two minute drive and all I buy there (when I stop for gas) is
milk, eggs, and ice cream... they have the best refrigeration locally.
Walmart has the best refrigeration of any store, the dwarf is a LIAR,
the dwarf has always been a usenet LIAR, anyone who socks is a LIAR
and the dwarf is the biggest sock of all... sqwertz is a LIAR, a
useless KNOW NOTHING SOCK LIAR!!! The sqwertz dwarf is such a LIAR
that he won't even admit that I gave the skeevie stevie wertz his
"sqwertz" name.

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ItsJoanNotJoann

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:17:45 PM8/21/11
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On Aug 21, 9:02 pm, Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>
> And you choose to believe that peepee brained maggot... Walmart has
> the most modern refrigeration of any store... I stopped buying
> refrigerated/frozen foods elsewhere, Walmart is the best.  The only
> other place I buy cold foods is from Stewart's stores, because they
> are a two minute drive and all I buy there (when I stop for gas) is
> milk, eggs, and ice cream... they have the best refrigeration locally.
> Walmart has the best refrigeration of any store, the dwarf is a LIAR,
> the dwarf has always been a usenet LIAR, anyone who socks is a LIAR
> and the dwarf is the biggest sock of all... sqwertz is a LIAR, a
> useless KNOW NOTHING SOCK LIAR!!!  The sqwertz dwarf is such a LIAR
> that he won't even admit that I gave the skeevie stevie wertz his
> "sqwertz" name.

>
>
But Sheldon, that doesn't mean ALL Wal Mart stores throughout ALL the
USA have the same standards as yours does. That does not make Sqwertz
a liar because your Wal Mart is tops with you.

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gloria.p

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:30:59 PM8/21/11
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On 8/21/2011 7:26 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>

> I don't blame the entire Walmart chain, I blame the incompetent
> managers. Idiots like that can work at any store, chain or independent.
>
> You should report it to the health department and WM headquarters and
> let then know this store had morons in the meat department. Maybe some
> training is needed.


Except the training should have been done when they were hired, not when
a legitimate customer complaint is received. Who knows how long the
temperature problem has existed and how many times fake temp readings
have been signed off on fraudulently?

I have seen health dept. people here (Colorado) in supermarkets,
checking and recording temperatures in both the deli areas and fresh
meat counters. Does only Walmart get a pass on inspections in swertz's
area?

gloria p

rod

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Aug 21, 2011, 10:50:09 PM8/21/11
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***Sounds like a big line of Bull Sh%t to me ~ 60 degree coolers,
rotting stench, uncooperative Wally-World Staffers and a reluctant
manager, sounds preposterous...Every time I've been to Wally-World its
been a joyful experience and a big savings to the checkbook...I've
eaten that lamb you are talking about and recently bought some thin
cut bone in rib eye steaks...Super!....Seems to me Squirtman has a
bone to pick with himself as he probably bought the meat and then
forgot about it, leaving it to rot in the baking sun...How long did
it take to get the stench out of your car butt horn?

Julie Bove

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Aug 21, 2011, 11:07:56 PM8/21/11
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"Dave Bugg" <dave...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Of course they would not shut down the whole store but they could shut down
parts of it. I don't know how strict they are where he is, but here it does
seem to take a lot to get something shut down.

At the store where I used to work we were swamped with rats and roaches
which were coming over from the next place over in the strip mall. There
was little we could do because we couldn't get over there. The owners had
just left town and left food sitting out. We had put up chicken wire and
stuffed it with steel wool in an attempt to keep the rats out but they
didn't care. They chewed through it just as they chewed through anything.
We did have exterminators out there constantly.

Eventually after I quit the food service department was shut down. I see
now that it has reopened but I have been warned by people who worked there
more recently than I did not to eat there because they were serving spoiled
tuna salad.


Ed Pawlowski

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Aug 21, 2011, 11:15:16 PM8/21/11
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"rod" <Rod_Sha...@yahoo.com> wrote

>
> ***Sounds like a big line of Bull Sh%t to me ~ 60 degree coolers,
> rotting stench, uncooperative Wally-World Staffers and a reluctant
> manager, sounds preposterous...Every time I've been to Wally-World its
> been a joyful experience and a big savings to the checkbook...I've
> eaten that lamb you are talking about and recently bought some thin
> cut bone in rib eye steaks...Super!....

I don't know about the lamb, but most meats in Walmart are inject with a
brine solution. I'm not willing to pay $2 to $6 a pound for water.

Do you honestly think that every piece of meat in every Walmart has always
been perfect? And that every store employee is doing a perfect job?

Brooklyn1

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Aug 21, 2011, 11:19:02 PM8/21/11
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Do you have any idea how much value in stock is under refrigeration in
a typical Walmart, obviously you don't... but it's more than a hundred
like you will earn in a lifetime. Like other large stores Walmart has
independant local companies tend to all their refrigeration. Meat
department employees have nothing to do with setting temps, they are
not qualified nor are they permitted to touch the reefer controls, in
fact they are locked... if a temp is incorrect an alarm would sound.
Walmart can well afford it but even very small stores are under
contract with local independant refrigeration companies... if in the
middle of the night there's a malfunction an auto-dialer alerts the
refrigeration company and a tech is dispatched immediately. Anyone
who believes differently is a pinhead. Sqwertz is a liar... you've
been trolled.

Cheryl

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Aug 21, 2011, 11:39:48 PM8/21/11
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On 8/21/2011 10:30 PM, gloria.p wrote:

> Except the training should have been done when they were hired, not when
> a legitimate customer complaint is received. Who knows how long the
> temperature problem has existed and how many times fake temp readings
> have been signed off on fraudulently?

I think training is a repeatable event. Sometimes people are hired
without up-to-date training, and sometimes situations change requiring
re-training.

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Tom Del Rosso

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Aug 22, 2011, 1:30:16 AM8/22/11
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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.

I wish you had called the DOH without telling the drones at the store.

And after removing the meat they probably put it back.


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Dave Bugg

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Aug 22, 2011, 3:41:53 AM8/22/11
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Yes, they could, just as I intimated.

> I don't know how strict they are where he is,
> but here it does seem to take a lot to get something shut down.

It depends on whether or not an immediate correction can be made, or whether
there have been repeated violations.

Julie Bove

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Aug 22, 2011, 3:52:48 AM8/22/11
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"Dave Bugg" <dave...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It depends on whether or not an immediate correction can be made, or
> whether there have been repeated violations.

I see...


George

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Aug 22, 2011, 8:46:16 AM8/22/11
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It does to Shelden because he thinks he is omniscient.

George

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Aug 22, 2011, 8:51:18 AM8/22/11
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On 8/21/2011 5:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>
> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>

> -sw

And talking about walmart.

An old friend mentioned wally was building a super wally in their area.
I mentioned that he can look forward to embalmed "fresh meat".

A few months later he called and asked why I called it "embalmed meat"
because they had checked out the store and found normal fresh meat.

Sometime later he called and said now he knew. The store had been open
for a while so now they were stocking the meat department with Shelden
Signature Quality embalmed meat thinking no one would notice.

Brooklyn1

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Aug 22, 2011, 9:10:11 AM8/22/11
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George LIAR wrote:

>On 8/21/2011 5:37 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>>
>> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>

>And talking about walmart.
>
>An old friend mentioned wally was building a super wally in their area.
>I mentioned that he can look forward to embalmed "fresh meat".
>
>A few months later he called and asked why I called it "embalmed meat"
>because they had checked out the store and found normal fresh meat.
>
>Sometime later he called and said now he knew. The store had been open
>for a while so now they were stocking the meat department with Shelden
>Signature Quality embalmed meat thinking no one would notice.

Yet another story telling LIAR.

Meat quality and refrigeration quality are separate issues, you
illiterate smegma eater.

Janet Wilder

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Aug 22, 2011, 9:44:52 AM8/22/11
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On 8/22/2011 12:30 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>
> I wish you had called the DOH without telling the drones at the store.
>
> And after removing the meat they probably put it back.
>
>

Well they do that with other stuff that people return to the store as
defective merchandise. They just tape up the box and reshelve it. Why
wouldn't they do it with the meat.

I would never buy meat at a WalMart. They inject everything with saline
solution. Their produce is probably gassed as the minute you take it out
of the store, it starts to rot.

We are on the last leg of a 3 week RV trip and did have to restock at
WalMarts, but never for produce or meat. I took enough meat from home
and we always found a regular supermarket for our salad stuff and fruit.


--

Janet Wilder
Posting from the Netbaby

Pico Rico

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:00:59 AM8/22/11
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
news:1dm6vk4k63bzs$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

> On Thursday night I bought some "Lamb Country Style Ribs" from
> Walmart. I got these once and they were quite good. And this is the
> only place in town that sells these things. I thought they felt kinda
> warm when I bought them this time but I went ahead anyway. They
> didn't expire for 10 days and were cyrovaced.
>
> On Friday when I cut the package open just about 2" the stench almost
> made me ralph. I put them in the freezer and called the meat
> department and told them they temperature problem in their lamb
> section. They said they'd look at it.
>
> Today when I took them back, the same packages of lamb were there as
> when I bought mine, plus more. I felt them. All warm. I called over
> a stocker and he said talk to another guy. So the other guy comes
> over and I said, "Feel the temperature of this. There is no way that
> this is 41 degress. All these packages, fell em all." He didn't even
> want to feel them. He said his managers check the temperatures of
> this stuff "every few hours" and they tell me it's OK. "I hear what
> you're saying, but it's OK", he says. I said, "No! it's NOT OK.
> There's no way these are safe. They're all rotten. I just returned
> some! These packages are about 60 degrees!". I asked that he take
> the temperature of the meat with his infrared. Two other customers
> standing nearby, overhearing this, came over and felt the packages and
> looked at the (now two) guys and they agreed they have a problem. One
> of them said, "Too bad the health department is probably closed
> today".
>
> A manager must have sensed the commotion going on and appears out of
> nowhere and I explained to her what I'm trying to get through to these
> guys. She refused to feel the meat as well, finally telling the one

> guy to go get a thermometer. Turns out he has one just inside the
> door 10 seconds away.
>
> The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has
> temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F. The lamb was 60F, just like I
> said. I told them it's all rotten, open it and smell it. I'll give
> you $100 if it's not rotten. Manager tells them to pull it all, very
> reluctantly - she even stuttered.
>
> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>
> This is why Walmart Sucks. Before I left the store a half hour later
> I wanted to see if they really pulled the meat, and they did. All the
> lamb, pork, and variety meats were gone from that whole section. At
> least $1,200 worth at retail.
>
> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>
> -sw

you dope! Walmart is just getting their sous vide line up and running! ;)


jmcquown

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:30:46 AM8/22/11
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(snippage)

Steve! I applaud you for notifying them of the problem with their cooler.
You probably saved a bunch of people from getting sick. That's a good
thing. But there's a reason not to buy groceries at WalMart. Did you
really think you were going to get excellent service from employees of a
corporation that doesn't let anyone work the number of hours that requires
they offer them health insurance? Tsk tsk.

Jill

Lou Decruss

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:31:58 AM8/22/11
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:37:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

<snip>

>Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.

I hate walmart too but the difference it I don't shop there.

Lou

Does it really matter?

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:38:57 AM8/22/11
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On 8/21/2011 4:36 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:

Nothing of value

Do you wear clothes when you post? I have this visual of you in your
parent's basement using their computer, because you're too fucking
stupid to own one of your own.

Brooklyn1

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:44:52 -0500, Janet Wilder
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 8/22/2011 12:30 AM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>>> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>>
>> I wish you had called the DOH without telling the drones at the store.
>>
>> And after removing the meat they probably put it back.
>>
>>
>
>Well they do that with other stuff that people return to the store as
>defective merchandise. They just tape up the box and reshelve it. Why
>wouldn't they do it with the meat.
>
>I would never buy meat at a WalMart. They inject everything with saline
>solution. Their produce is probably gassed as the minute you take it out
>of the store, it starts to rot.
>
>We are on the last leg of a 3 week RV trip and did have to restock at

>WalMarts.

Yeah, right... you're traveling for three weeks but there are no other
stores... you friggin' phoney... you know so much about Walmart
because that's where you mostly shop... you are truly a comedy... I
wouldn't believe you if your tongue was notarized.

blake murphy

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:01:48 -0400, TFM® wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:36:52 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>

>>>> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
>>>> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
>>>> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
>>>> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>>>>
>>>> This is why Walmart Sucks. Before I left the store a half hour later
>>>> I wanted to see if they really pulled the meat, and they did. All the
>>>> lamb, pork, and variety meats were gone from that whole section. At
>>>> least $1,200 worth at retail.
>>>>

>>>> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>>>> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>>

>> Of course they stared at you, because they realized you're a
>> certifiable nut case.
>>

>>>If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health department
>>>tomorrow. See if you can get the whole store closed down for a few days ;-)
>>

>> The sqwertz dwarf is whacked... rotten is how lamb is supposed to
>> smell... lamb stinks, lamb is the limberger of meat... the Greeks love
>> lamb because it smells like Greek style! Ahahahaha. . . .
>>
>> The sqwertz dwarf is posting his tirade because he hates Walmart is
>> all... it's all a made up fantasy, a LIE!
>> The mick will vouch, he is certainly intimate with Greek style:
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=greek+style
>

> But of course the 60 degree meat temperature validates all you're saying.
>
> I take back anything good I've said about you.
>
> TFM®

good thinking. he's the same psycho he ever was, and more.

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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get a fucking grip on yourself.

blake

blake murphy

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:19:02 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> Sqwertz is a liar... you've
> been trolled.

another idiot who doesn't know what 'troll' means.

blake

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"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
news:n1c357heaqmt5eqkv...@4ax.com...

> Bob Molder wrote:
>>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>>zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday night I bought some "Lamb Country Style Ribs" from
>>>>> Walmart. I got these once and they were quite good. And this is the
>>>>> only place in town that sells these things. I thought they felt kinda
>>>>> warm when I bought them this time but I went ahead anyway. They
>>>>> didn't expire for 10 days and were cyrovaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday when I cut the package open just about 2" the stench almost
>>>>> made me ralph. I put them in the freezer and called the meat
>>>>> department and told them they temperature problem in their lamb
>>>>> section. They said they'd look at it.
>>>>>
>>>Of course they stared at you, because they realized you're a
>>>certifiable nut case.
>>>
>>>>If all this is true, file a complaint with the county health department
>>>>tomorrow. See if you can get the whole store closed down for a few days
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>The sqwertz dwarf is whacked... rotten is how lamb is supposed to
>>>smell... lamb stinks, lamb is the limberger of meat...
(snippage)

>>Hey he's right you know, those temperatures were unacceptable and the meat
>>should of been pulled. Hey Sqwirts which wallyworld was it?
>
> And you choose to believe that peepee brained maggot... Walmart has
> the most modern refrigeration of any store... I stopped buying
> refrigerated/frozen foods elsewhere, Walmart is the best.

(snippage)

Do you really think every single WalMart maintains the same standards? They
pay their employees minimum wage. I'm sure they'd pay them less if they
could. They don't let them work enough hours to have to offer them health
insurance. So the employees don't care. I don't blame them.

John and I went to WalMart shopping for shorts and shirts (he'd underpacked
and I was tired of doing laundry). We got to the checkout stand. They have
those self checkout machines. (That's so they don't have to actually pay
people. Surprise!) But there's someone sitting on a chair in case you need
help with the self checkout. In this case, he scanned the items and they
didn't go through correctly. He needed to cancel the transaction and start
over but it wouldn't let him. So he called over to the woman sitting in the
chair, "Excuse me! I need some help." She looked at him like "What, you
expect me to get up?" She acted like we were bothering her. She huffed!
Oh, gee, sorry, we thought you were getting paid to work here. Imagine
that!

Jill

Dave Smith

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I confess that I was in one a few months ago. I was looking for
something specific and had checked a number of other stores first. I was
actually relieved that it wasn't at Walmart either.

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Hackmatack

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blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:

> good thinking. he's the same psycho he ever was, and more.
>
> your pal,
> blake

If recent posts show some improvement, I'd hate to see what earlier posts
were like...

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Shawn Martin

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On 8/22/2011 10:36 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
>e best.
> (snippage)
>
> Do you really think every single WalMart maintains the same standards?
> They pay their employees minimum wage. I'm sure they'd pay them less if
> they could. They don't let them work enough hours to have to offer them
> health insurance. So the employees don't care. I don't blame them.


The company I used to work for held the maintenance contract for all of
walmart's cash registers, and other computer stuff. I got to know a LOT
about wallywirld.

In addition to minimum wage, and 29 hours a week, (here in TX 30 hours a
week classifies you as a full time employee) Every Walmart has at least
one HR person, which has been trained in state and local welfare benefits.

At every hire interview, they apply for welfare, WIC, food stamps, etc.
for the employee. Any state or federal benefits you qualify for is
considered part of your "compensation package"

If they can find another "benefit" that you can qualify for at a later
date, they will sign you up for it, and claim that as a raise.

George

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On 8/22/2011 12:01 PM, Shawn Martin wrote:
> On 8/22/2011 10:36 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> "Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
>> e best.
>> (snippage)
>>
>> Do you really think every single WalMart maintains the same standards?
>> They pay their employees minimum wage. I'm sure they'd pay them less if
>> they could. They don't let them work enough hours to have to offer them
>> health insurance. So the employees don't care. I don't blame them.
>
>
> The company I used to work for held the maintenance contract for all of
> walmart's cash registers, and other computer stuff. I got to know a LOT
> about wallywirld.
>
> In addition to minimum wage, and 29 hours a week, (here in TX 30 hours a
> week classifies you as a full time employee) Every Walmart has at least
> one HR person, which has been trained in state and local welfare benefits.

Same in PA except it is >34 hours to be full time. They run most of the
help at 34 to avoid paying any sort of benefit.

>
> At every hire interview, they apply for welfare, WIC, food stamps, etc.
> for the employee. Any state or federal benefits you qualify for is
> considered part of your "compensation package"

In PA the walmart employees have to apply for their "benefits" on their
own. A relative worked at the welfare office and she said folks would
show up with the sheet walmart gave then describing their "benefit
package" and how to get it.

Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:23:47 -0400, blake murphy
<blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:


>> And you choose to believe that peepee brained maggot... Walmart has
>> the most modern refrigeration of any store... I stopped buying
>> refrigerated/frozen foods elsewhere, Walmart is the best. The only
>> other place I buy cold foods is from Stewart's stores, because they
>> are a two minute drive and all I buy there (when I stop for gas) is
>> milk, eggs, and ice cream... they have the best refrigeration locally.
>> Walmart has the best refrigeration of any store, the dwarf is a LIAR,
>> the dwarf has always been a usenet LIAR, anyone who socks is a LIAR
>> and the dwarf is the biggest sock of all... sqwertz is a LIAR, a
>> useless KNOW NOTHING SOCK LIAR!!! The sqwertz dwarf is such a LIAR
>> that he won't even admit that I gave the skeevie stevie wertz his
>> "sqwertz" name.
>
>get a fucking grip on yourself.

What exactly would he grip? The vienna sausage he calls a penis?

Lou

Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:40 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>I'm going to have to reinstate my policy that I stop at he liquor
>store next door for a half pint of anything before I walk in there any
>more.

That works for family functions very well also.

Lou

gloria.p

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If you have to get a buzz on to go somewhere, you'd be better off
staying home.

gloria p

TFM®

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:02:40 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:


> And you choose to believe that peepee brained maggot... Walmart has
> the most modern refrigeration of any store... I stopped buying
> refrigerated/frozen foods elsewhere, Walmart is the best. The only
> other place I buy cold foods is from Stewart's stores, because they
> are a two minute drive and all I buy there (when I stop for gas) is
> milk, eggs, and ice cream... they have the best refrigeration locally.
> Walmart has the best refrigeration of any store, the dwarf is a LIAR,
> the dwarf has always been a usenet LIAR, anyone who socks is a LIAR
> and the dwarf is the biggest sock of all... sqwertz is a LIAR, a
> useless KNOW NOTHING SOCK LIAR!!! The sqwertz dwarf is such a LIAR
> that he won't even admit that I gave the skeevie stevie wertz his
> "sqwertz" name.

Wow. You're truly fucked. You're like serial killer material.

TFM®

TFM®

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Aug 22, 2011, 5:57:52 PM8/22/11
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Are you sure that's not omnimpotent?

TFMŽ

Pete C.

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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thursday night I bought some "Lamb Country Style Ribs" from
> Walmart. I got these once and they were quite good. And this is the
> only place in town that sells these things. I thought they felt kinda
> warm when I bought them this time but I went ahead anyway. They
> didn't expire for 10 days and were cyrovaced.
>
> On Friday when I cut the package open just about 2" the stench almost
> made me ralph. I put them in the freezer and called the meat
> department and told them they temperature problem in their lamb
> section. They said they'd look at it.
>
> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>
> -sw

There is an article on CNN.com at the moment that indicates that
employees at a Wal-Mart essentially killed an elderly man by preventing
other customers in the store from providing medical assistance and by
refusing to get an AED.

TFM®

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Aug 22, 2011, 6:06:40 PM8/22/11
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Sheldon's actually a very intelligent adult living in his own house with
several cats.

He masturbates as frequently as he can get a hard-on, which should
hopefully be rare at his advanced age.

What he posts on usenet could be equated to pearls in a pile of pig shit.

If you look hard enough, you can find something of value.

(disclaimer) I'm not saying I'm any better, so don't even try that one,
Penmart.


TFM®

TFM®

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Aug 22, 2011, 6:16:27 PM8/22/11
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I hate to admit it, but when the shopper-powered cash register fucks up, I
take full advantage.

"Item failed to scan, please scan again"
I put it in the bag and scan the next item.

Dumb-ass bitch sitting in a chair doesn't give a fuck anyway.


TFM®

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Mark Thorson

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Aug 22, 2011, 7:29:29 PM8/22/11
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Sqwertz wrote:
>
> I'm going to have to reinstate my policy that I stop at he liquor
> store next door for a half pint of anything before I walk in there any
> more.

No, you need to stop and ask yourself
"What would Andy do?".

TFM®

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Aug 22, 2011, 6:28:57 PM8/22/11
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:19:02 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:26:41 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
> <e...@snetnospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote


>>> Today when I took them back, the same packages of lamb were there as
>>> when I bought mine, plus more. I felt them. All warm. I called over
>>> a stocker and he said talk to another guy. So the other guy comes
>>> over and I said, "Feel the temperature of this. There is no way that
>>> this is 41 degress. All these packages, fell em all." He didn't even
>>> want to feel them. He said his managers check the temperatures of
>>> this stuff "every few hours" and they tell me it's OK. "I hear what
>>> you're saying, but it's OK", he says. I said, "No! it's NOT OK.
>>
>>

>>> She refused to feel the meat as well, finally telling the one
>>> guy to go get a thermometer. Turns out he has one just inside the
>>> door 10 seconds away.
>>>
>>> The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has
>>> temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F.
>>

>>> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
>>> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
>>> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
>>> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>>>
>>> This is why Walmart Sucks.
>>

>>I don't blame the entire Walmart chain, I blame the incompetent managers.
>>Idiots like that can work at any store, chain or independent.
>>
>>You should report it to the health department and WM headquarters and let
>>then know this store had morons in the meat department. Maybe some training
>>is needed.
>
> Do you have any idea how much value in stock is under refrigeration in
> a typical Walmart, obviously you don't... but it's more than a hundred
> like you will earn in a lifetime.

Cool, Shelly's got Wal-Mart stock. Let's all boycott the cocksuckers.

if a temp is incorrect an alarm would sound.

Oh really? Let's have an alarm alert hundreds of shoppers that our meat is
unsafe.

What it boils down to is that the employees just don't give a fuck. Why
should they? They don't buy real meat, nor do they have any idea how to
prepare it.
They work at Wal-Mart FFS, they eat poptarts for breakfast, McDonalds for
lunch and Totinos pizza for supper.

If that was my diet, I wouldn't care if the meat was stored at 70 degrees.


It's a crying shame,
TFM®

TFM®

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:20:36 -0500, Bull wrote:

> In article <h0vtpihe604g.wtpeqzgty9qr$.d...@40tude.net>,
> TFM® <horn...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Wow.
>>
>> TFM®
>
> WTFis a TFM®?
>
>
> WTF®

It's an extract of ROTFLMAO.

TFM®

Michel Boucher

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Bull <bully...@cluemail.net> wrote in news:bullyballs-
A581F4.172...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com:

> In article <h0vtpihe604g.wtpeqzgty9qr$.d...@40tude.net>,
> TFM® <horn...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow.
>>
>> TFM®
>
> WTFis a TFM®?
>
> WTF®

Too Fucking Much?

--

"War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and
terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

Peter Ustinov

Dan Abel

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Aug 22, 2011, 8:42:30 PM8/22/11
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In article <h0vtpihe604g.wtpeqzgty9qr$.d...@40tude.net>,
TFM� <horn...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

And the above was one of his better efforts! You should see him on a
bad day.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

Dan Abel

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Aug 22, 2011, 8:55:09 PM8/22/11
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In article <Xns9F49C20E9AC4...@216.196.97.131>,
Michel Boucher <alsa...@g.mail.com> wrote:

> Bull <bully...@cluemail.net> wrote in news:bullyballs-
> A581F4.172...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com:
>
> > In article <h0vtpihe604g.wtpeqzgty9qr$.d...@40tude.net>,
> > TFM® <horn...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Wow.
> >>
> >> TFM®
> >
> > WTFis a TFM®?
> >
> > WTF®
>
> Too Fucking Much?

Close. The Fat Man:

http://www.recfoodcooking.com/mug/shot/TFM%28R%29.jpg

Brooklyn1

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:55:09 -0700, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:

>In article <Xns9F49C20E9AC4...@216.196.97.131>,
> Michel Boucher <alsa...@g.mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bull <bully...@cluemail.net> wrote in news:bullyballs-
>> A581F4.172...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com:
>>
>> > In article <h0vtpihe604g.wtpeqzgty9qr$.d...@40tude.net>,
>> > TFM® <horn...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wow.
>> >>
>> >> TFM®
>> >
>> > WTFis a TFM®?
>> >
>> > WTF®
>>
>> Too Fucking Much?
>
>Close. The Fat Man:

The Fat Murderer.

Janet Wilder

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Aug 22, 2011, 9:39:52 PM8/22/11
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On 8/22/2011 9:30 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Steve! I applaud you for notifying them of the problem with their
> cooler. You probably saved a bunch of people from getting sick. That's a
> good thing. But there's a reason not to buy groceries at WalMart. Did
> you really think you were going to get excellent service from employees
> of a corporation that doesn't let anyone work the number of hours that
> requires they offer them health insurance? Tsk tsk.
>

My now grown children all worked at supermarkets when they were in high
school and college. These were Union shops and they never allowed the
kids enough hours to get benefits. Why is WalMart so different than the
majority of retailers in the US? Is it because they are so big that they
get the press?


--

Janet Wilder
Posting from the Netbaby

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Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:01:35 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:31:58 -0500, Lou Decruss wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 16:37:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>

>>>Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>>>for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>>

>> I hate walmart too but the difference it I don't shop there.
>

>I'd like not to shop there but there are a couple items I can get
>there that I can't get anywhere else. One is the Heinz 57 Sauce
>clone, also Herdez Salsa Casera. 48 packs of icee pops in the plastic
>sleeves for $2 (which they haven't had lately). And the formerly
>mentioned lamb ribs.
>
>Also it's the end of the line for the 2-hour crosstown bus ride I take
>often and the closet point to my home for calling a cab to get the
>rest of the way.
>

I'd assume the transportation issue is a pain in the ass.

Lou

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Lou Decruss

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He's never been anything but an asshole.

Lou

Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:54:56 -0600, "gloria.p" <gpue...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Lighten up. It was a joke.

Lou

Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:46:59 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

><snicker> She's never shopped at Walmart!
>
>Don't worry Lou. Gloria used to be nice but she has a hardon for me
>lately. She's said she wishes I was dead.
>
>I think I fucked her daughter <shrug>. And her dog.

Which was a better time?

Lou

gloria.p

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So was the reply.

gloria p

gloria.p

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On 8/22/2011 7:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:54:56 -0600, gloria.p wrote:

>> If you have to get a buzz on to go somewhere, you'd be better off
>> staying home.
>

> <snicker> She's never shopped at Walmart!
>
> Don't worry Lou. Gloria used to be nice but she has a hardon for me
> lately. She's said she wishes I was dead.
>
> I think I fucked her daughter<shrug>. And her dog.
>

> -sw

You've been hanging out with Sheldon too long.
You both need your meds.

gloria p

Lou Decruss

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:01:58 -0600, "gloria.p" <gpue...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 8/22/2011 7:48 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:54:56 -0600, "gloria.p"<gpue...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/22/2011 2:17 PM, Lou Decruss wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:40 -0500, Sqwertz<swe...@cluemail.compost>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to have to reinstate my policy that I stop at he liquor
>>>>> store next door for a half pint of anything before I walk in there any
>>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> That works for family functions very well also.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have to get a buzz on to go somewhere, you'd be better off
>>> staying home.
>>
>> Lighten up. It was a joke.
>>
>> Lou
>
>
>So was the reply

OK then. <g>

Lou

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Nunya Bidnits

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:30:29 PM8/22/11
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> TFM®

That would be omnipestilent.


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Nunya Bidnits

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Aug 22, 2011, 10:36:29 PM8/22/11
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blake murphy <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:02:40 -0400, Brooklyn1 wrote:

>> a LIAR that he won't even admit that I gave the skeevie stevie wertz
>> his "sqwertz" name.
>

> get a fucking grip on yourself.

Clearly he has already done so.

The Yutz wrote:
>>...peepee brained maggot...

What else is there to say?

MartyB


Ed Pawlowski

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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote >
> I have had two other pathetic experiences at this same store. One
> time I was trying to buy to miniature pumpkins - the sign says
> $.69/each. When I get to the checkout they weighed them and charged
> me $.69/lb. I double-checked the sign and sure enough I read it right
> and told the girl that they were $.69 EACH, not per pound. She didn't
> understand what I saying. I took one pumpkin and set it aside and
> said, "This is $.69" and THIS is "$.69". That makes $1.38 for BOTH of
> them. You don't weigh them. "They're $.69 EACH". Still confused, she
> says, "OK, I'll weigh them separately" and proceeds to weigh them each
> separately.
>
> Another time something else rang up incorrectly and I said the price
> of that was blah blah blah. Then the girl picks it up and holds it up
> and says, "What, you don't want it then?",

What is really sad, that happens every day in most big chain discount retail
establishments. I still remember the good old days of going to a
department store and having knowledgeable help assist you with your
purchase. They knew the product, prices were marked, they properly wrapped
and bagged, etc.

Don't just blame the stores, blame the customers. We stopped going to the
full service department store because the K-Marts, Wal Marts, Two Guys,
Zayres were a little cheaper. Department stores used to be staffed with a
lot of middle aged women that liked their jobs and were good at what they
did. Now it is a bunch of low IQ robots that can sort of scan stuff while
talking to the clerk on the next register about her date last night.

Goomba

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jmcquown wrote:

> We got to the checkout
> stand. They have those self checkout machines. (That's so they don't
> have to actually pay people. Surprise!)

My local Kroger, Publix *and* military commissary also use those type of
self scanners.

George

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We have a "service economy" now. For lots of folks working at a
supermarket is their job and not just a temporary thing on the way to a
"real" job.

George Shirley

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Aug 23, 2011, 9:31:42 AM8/23/11
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When I make an interim trip to Kroger I use the self checkout lanes.
Seldom have to wait in line, get checked out in a few minutes and am on
my way. I'm all for them.

MaryL

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"Sqwertz" wrote in message news:1dm6vk4k63bzs$.dlg@sqwertz.com...

<snip>

The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has

temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F. The lamb was 60F, just like I
said. I told them it's all rotten, open it and smell it. I'll give
you $100 if it's not rotten. Manager tells them to pull it all, very
reluctantly - she even stuttered.

That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.

This is why Walmart Sucks. Before I left the store a half hour later
I wanted to see if they really pulled the meat, and they did. All the
lamb, pork, and variety meats were gone from that whole section. At
least $1,200 worth at retail.

Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.

-sw

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Where is this Walmart located? I live in Texas, and that Walmart sounds
like a good place to avoid.

MaryL

MaryL

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Aug 23, 2011, 11:08:05 AM8/23/11
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"MaryL" wrote in message
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<snip>

-sw

Oops! Please ignore my request. I have been reading through the other
messages and just came through your message where you said the Walmart is
located in Austin.

MaryL

MaryL

Goomba

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Aug 23, 2011, 11:09:58 AM8/23/11
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MaryL wrote:

> Where is this Walmart located? I live in Texas, and that Walmart sounds
> like a good place to avoid.
>
> MaryL

All Walmarts sound like good places to avoid, IMO.

Lou Decruss

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Aug 23, 2011, 11:27:43 AM8/23/11
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:09:58 -0400, Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Exactly.

Lou

Brooklyn1

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:14:58 -0400, Goomba <Goom...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:


>
>> We got to the checkout
>> stand. They have those self checkout machines. (That's so they don't
>> have to actually pay people. Surprise!)

Being opinionated about employment issues for someone who doesn't work
makes as much sense as someone being opinionated about how to raise
children who has none. Those machines have nothing to do with not
wanting to pay people.

>My local Kroger, Publix *and* military commissary also use those type of
>self scanners.

Businesses move to automation due to lack of qualified and dedicated
personel in the local pool. Those machines cost more to install and
maintain than paying grocery checkers and machines don't spread hate
and discontent. ATMs evolved soley due to lack of people with
qualifications and integrity to work as tellers... installing and
maintaining an ATM is far more costly than paying employees. And
businesses get tired of training people who will move on within months
or even days. And there's certainly nothing negative about
automating, especially manufacturing, if everything were still hand
made one by one besides units malfunctioning hardly anyone could
afford to purchase all the 'things'. If automation was so inherently
bad we'd all still be using manual typewriters instead of keyboards.
Not only would manual typewriters cost far more to manufacture than
keyboards there are no longer a sufficient number of workers in the US
who possess the necessary manufacturing skills to produce manual
typewriters, or much of anything else.

Brooklyn1

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Aug 23, 2011, 11:48:23 AM8/23/11
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I've never even seen one of those self checkers. I shop at several
stores within a 20 mile radius but so far there are all people at the
registers around where I live. I rarely need to wait more than ten
minutes to check out, at busy times they open more registers. People
here are not in so big a rush anyway, even if there's just one person
ahead of me I still need to wait for them to have their conversation
with the checker and I typically join in, makes life more interesting
knowing the local gossip... at the local stores the employees and
customers know each other and light socializing is customary and
expected.

Lou Decruss

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Aug 23, 2011, 12:12:58 PM8/23/11
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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:31:42 -0500, George Shirley
<gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Those are only good if you don't have produce. The place we get most
of our produce from doesn't even have them.

Lou

MaryL

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Aug 23, 2011, 12:44:25 PM8/23/11
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"Goomba" wrote in message news:9bhu6o...@mid.individual.net...

MaryL wrote:

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Well, I can't disagree with that; and I seldom use Walmart. However,
temperature used for food storage has never been my concern. Instead, I
dislike the fact that small merchants seem to be driven out of business by
stores like Walmart. Walmart can sometimes sell items cheaper than smaller
merchants can even buy them. People will often go to smaller merchants for
information, then go to discount stores to make their purchases.

MaryL

David Harmon

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:54:40 -0500 in rec.food.cooking, Sqwertz
<swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote,

>I'm going to have to reinstate my policy that I stop at he liquor
>store next door for a half pint of anything before I walk in there any
>more.

Those screw top 24oz Pepsi bottles are good... just drink a few
ounces and top up with vodka and you're good to go.

Lou Decruss

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 09:52:44 -0700, David Harmon <sou...@netcom.com>
wrote:

Vodka and pepsi?

Lou

Storrmmee

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Aug 23, 2011, 2:38:10 PM8/23/11
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exactly this sort of thing goes on lall the time at all kinds of markets,
its not a brand specific thing, its a human specific problem, a greedy
manager that sees their bonus being beaten up, not more or less with
walmart, have had a grocery tell the dh, sure its out of date but we had it
frozen for two months, LOL, Lee
"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> news:1dm6vk4k63bzs$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>> On Thursday night I bought some "Lamb Country Style Ribs" from
>> Walmart. I got these once and they were quite good. And this is the
>> only place in town that sells these things. I thought they felt kinda
>> warm when I bought them this time but I went ahead anyway. They
>> didn't expire for 10 days and were cyrovaced.
>>
>> On Friday when I cut the package open just about 2" the stench almost
>> made me ralph. I put them in the freezer and called the meat
>> department and told them they temperature problem in their lamb
>> section. They said they'd look at it.
>>
>> Today when I took them back, the same packages of lamb were there as
>> when I bought mine, plus more. I felt them. All warm. I called over
>> a stocker and he said talk to another guy. So the other guy comes
>> over and I said, "Feel the temperature of this. There is no way that
>> this is 41 degress. All these packages, fell em all." He didn't even
>> want to feel them. He said his managers check the temperatures of
>> this stuff "every few hours" and they tell me it's OK. "I hear what
>> you're saying, but it's OK", he says. I said, "No! it's NOT OK.
>> There's no way these are safe. They're all rotten. I just returned
>> some! These packages are about 60 degrees!". I asked that he take
>> the temperature of the meat with his infrared. Two other customers
>> standing nearby, overhearing this, came over and felt the packages and
>> looked at the (now two) guys and they agreed they have a problem. One
>> of them said, "Too bad the health department is probably closed
>> today".
>>
>> A manager must have sensed the commotion going on and appears out of
>> nowhere and I explained to her what I'm trying to get through to these
>> guys. She refused to feel the meat as well, finally telling the one
>> guy to go get a thermometer. Turns out he has one just inside the
>> door 10 seconds away.

>>
>> The verdict: 18 linear feet of meat on the cooler shelves has
>> temperatures ranging from 61F to 46F. The lamb was 60F, just like I
>> said. I told them it's all rotten, open it and smell it. I'll give
>> you $100 if it's not rotten. Manager tells them to pull it all, very
>> reluctantly - she even stuttered.
>>
>> That's just downright criminal for somebody to alert them to the
>> problem and refuse to check it, not once, but several times. It's
>> also criminal for them not to take the temperatures of the meat "every
>> few hours" (for 4 or more days) and not do something about it.
>>
>> This is why Walmart Sucks. Before I left the store a half hour later
>> I wanted to see if they really pulled the meat, and they did. All the
>> lamb, pork, and variety meats were gone from that whole section. At
>> least $1,200 worth at retail.
>>
>> Glad I could help, Walmart. You assholes. And they didn't thank me
>> for alerting them to the problem. They just glared at me.
>
> We don't go there too often. Our Walmart doesn't have a proper grocery
> although they do have a few aisles of food. The parking lot had a lot of
> open spaces and there were few customers in the store. Very odd. They
> were in the middle of a remodel and a sign boasted of clearance prices but
> we didn't see many things on clearance.
>
> They (just like every other store around here) were out of the tuna Fancy
> Feast Appetizers. I have had to mail order them twice. They are my cat's
> favorites.
>
> We didn't buy much. Toothbrush holder, trash can, piece of steak jerky
> and some T-Shirts.
>
> As for the warm meats I have seen this elsewhere. The Waldbaums closest
> to where we lived on Staten Island was known to sell dairy products that
> were at the wrong temp. Warm to the touch and yet the clearly visible
> thermometer showed the correct temp.
>
> After we had that week long power outage they tried to sell the meats that
> had been sitting out and warm. And they weren't the only store to have
> tried to do that. They came out on the news and said to wait two weeks
> before buying anything perishable to make sure the health department had
> time to do the proper checks.
>
> I also remember an incident when I was a child. A neighbor kid came over
> all excited and told us we must go the to grocery store up the street
> because they had TV dinners for 10 cents. Turns out the freezer had
> broken and the stuff was sitting there defrosting.
>


Nunya Bidnits

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Aug 23, 2011, 3:11:04 PM8/23/11
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I won't use them. First there is the PITA produce lookup, then if you buy
any alcohol someone has to come over and deal with it, there are problems
with the sensors on the belt, etc etc etc. Unless you only have one or two
items its impossible to get through them without something going wrong or
taking up too much time compared to a checker.

MartyB


Nancy Young

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Aug 23, 2011, 3:21:53 PM8/23/11
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I use them from time to time, and I get annoyed if I forget I
had a green pepper to check out. Having said that, it's surprisingly
easy (if not quick) to look up an item on the touch screen. I'd
just rather not do that.

nancy

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Lou Decruss

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If it's just one common produce item it's ok but not if you've got
like 10. I don't like them because if you get stuck behind someone
who can't figure out the process it takes forever behind them.

Lou

MaryL

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"Sqwertz" wrote in message news:hh56kmbb...@sqwertz.com...

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:44:25 -0500, MaryL wrote:

> Well, I can't disagree with that; and I seldom use Walmart. However,
> temperature used for food storage has never been my concern.

Wait until you open a package of Walmart lamb! Then you'll realize
how important temperature is.

-sw

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I didn't mean that--temperature is obviously *very* important, and I
probably throw away food that could still be good because I don't want to
take chances. I simply meant that there is a lot that I don't like about
Walmart, but I never thought about food storage (at least, no more than any
other grocery).

MaryL

Lou Decruss

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:31:30 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Most of our stores now have "weigh your own produce" scales in the
>produce department taht spit out price tags. It hasn't quite sunk in
>to a few of the stores that they are only effective if you PRINT THE
>PRODUCE CODES ON THE SHELVES OR SIGNS.

I've seen those but not at the places we normally shop. You're lucky
to find someone who speaks english much less program that kind of
setup.

Lou

Doug Freyburger

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Aug 23, 2011, 4:01:16 PM8/23/11
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MaryL wrote:
>
> ... I
> dislike the fact that small merchants seem to be driven out of business by
> stores like Walmart. Walmart can sometimes sell items cheaper than smaller
> merchants can even buy them. People will often go to smaller merchants for
> information, then go to discount stores to make their purchases.

Economy of scales. It happens when agribusiness buys up family farms,
with large car dealership companies buying up family owned dealerships
and becoming like AutoNation, with franchised restaurants driving out
family owned restaurants. The list goes on like that. Because Walmart
stores are so big the effect is more visible but it happens with a lot
of business types.

My brother is a veterinarian. A friend always tried to get him to
franchise his operation because his clinic is so successful. My
brother's response is he didn't want to drive his friends out of
business. Now that he is approaching retirement age his clinic gets to
be a part of a large chain. He only held off until he retired and now
it's even happening in his industry. Even more so with veterarians at
PetSmart in many states.

Lou Decruss

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:34:46 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:

>Uh, can I use rum instead? BTW, they're usually 16 or 20 ounces. You
>drink half, then pour in the half pint.

For road trips I'd dump all the soda out. Nothing is worse than
having to pee for an hour on a bumpy bus.

Lou

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