I just posted on Facebook, that I discovered one of the last remaining
Woolworths here in Bakersfield. On the storefront, it says it has a
lunch counter.
I only discovered it today, and I haven't been inside yet..I was
traveling back to my room here, and was going through the downtown
area.
However, I will go inside. I want to check out the lunch counter. I
have fond memories of eating at a Woolworths lunch counter. And
judging from the responses I have gotten to my FB posting, others have
fond memories too.
Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
Christine
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com
Lunch at the counter was a treat when we were kids. My mother would drag us
along for the weekly shopping trip and we'd stop for lunch at the counter.
Usually a hot dog or grilled cheese and I was fascinated by the big ceiling
fans. This was before AC was common and the fans gave a gentle breeze.
Fast forward about 40 years and my wife and I were in Webster, MA and there
was one of the last the Woolworths and lunch counter. We went in and had a
pretty decent hamburger on rye bread, fries and Coke for only a couple of
dollars. Kind of fun after many years. The store has since closed.
Indeed, yes. As a child, especially, when my mother and I would go
downtown. We often had a grilled cheese or BLT with chips.
Sometimes a hot roast beef sandwich with mashed potatoes, and then
there would be some cherry pie a la mode. Flavored Cokes, too, which
might be cherry, vanilla, or chocolate.
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
>Indeed, yes. As a child, especially, when my mother and I would go
>downtown.
Same here. We would occasionally stop in at the local Woolworths... I
know I had BLTs there.
We often had a grilled cheese or BLT with chips.
>Sometimes a hot roast beef sandwich with mashed potatoes, and then
>there would be some cherry pie a la mode. Flavored Cokes, too, which
>might be cherry, vanilla, or chocolate.
Woolworths is where I learned to eat eggs on the runnier side. I
would get off from work in the morning, and I had to change buses
there on the same corner where Woolworths was located. I would stop
in almost every morning, and have breakfast there. I saw folks eating
great looking soft cooked eggs, and I tried them. I fell in love with
them.
And when I was near there at lunchtime, I would get a BLT. Or maybe
it was a club sandwich.
Christine
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com
I remember the club sandwiches. Sometimes my mother would have one,
but I never liked turkey so wouldn't order one. They sometimes had a
type of cheesecake that my mother would order. It had a very dry
texture that I didn't like then, but would love to know how make now.
I remember the Horlick's malt dispenser, and I loved their vanilla
malts with double malt. They also had a Bromo-Seltzer dispenser, but
I don't remember ever seeing any of the waitresses prepare a Bromo
for anyone.
When I worked in downtown Newark, NJ in 1985 and 1986 I was across the
street from a Woolworth. Their chili dogs with mustard and raw onion
were a frequent lunch. Washed it down with a diet cola. Damn, they were
good. If I had one today, it would give me heartburn. Sigh.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
>Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
Of Woolworth's lunch counter? Not really. I ate there a few times,
but it was just a lunch counter. Nothing special or particularly
memorable.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> I just posted on Facebook, that I discovered one of the last remaining>
> Woolworths here in Bakersfield. On the storefront, it says it has a>
> lunch counter.
>
Mine was a Newberry's. They had great french fries, made from potatoes that
were peeled in a tub lined with rough stone. I thought that was an
incredible invention back then. The egg salad sandwiches were very nice.
They also made plate meals but I don't remember what they were, although I'm
sure meatloaf figured in there.
> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
Nice thread.
My aunt took me into a Kresge's for a bite. Old lady next to me
ordered 'cawfee and donuts' - yeah, in those days, you got two
donuts! Impressed the heck out of a 7 year old.
Anyhow, aunt ordered something and a glass of milk for me. I can see
her now, calling the waitress over, pointing to my glass and intoning
"There's LIPstick on that glass". and it was pretty visible. Waitress
in her pink nylon uniform, scowled and removed it.
Five and dime counters were strictly for a real quick burger -- 30
cents, IIRC.
Sounds like fun. The big treat when we were kids was to go into "the
city" (Manhattan) and eat at the Horn and Hardart's Automat.
http://www.theautomat.net/ Mom would give us each some nickles and we
would be off. My favorite was the Macaroni and Cheese.
George L
Oh, gee. I didn't think there were any Woolworth stores left, let
alone any with a lunch counter. Back when I was in my teens and
early 20s, I sometimes went to such a lunch counter in Harvard
Square (Cambridge, Massachusetts), where I particularly remember
eating hotdogs. They were cheap, and I was not rolling in
money--and I didn't know as much as I know now.
--
Jean B.
> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
Of course!
Kress, Woolworths, WT Grant.... they all had lunch counters back in
the day. My primary memory is Mom setting my brother and I down at
the counter for a grilled cheese sandwich and a Coke ....in the
classic glass... so lunch could babysit us while she shopped.
If times were good, we even got a bowl of Campbells tomato soup.
Remember the Campbells display/cooker where cans were prominently
displayed in a row and the soup was warmed in dedicated little metal
containers that plugged right into the front of the stainless steel
machine? King for a day was soup with one of those killer double
layer club sandwiches cut in four sections and held together with
frilly toothpicks.
The last one I ever saw had been converted from counter to a cafeteria
style setup where you chose foods from displays and took it to plastic
booth seating. Just not the same as watching those nice young ladies
in their starched waitress uniforms serving those manna-from-heaven
sandwiches made with toasted Wonder bread on plates heavy enough to
bludgeon a wild buffalo to death. Ahhh.... The good ol' days. ;)
nb
>> However, I will go inside. I want to check out the lunch counter. I
>> have fond memories of eating at a Woolworths lunch counter. And
>> judging from the responses I have gotten to my FB posting, others
>> have fond memories too.
>>
>> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
> Sounds like fun. The big treat when we were kids was to go into "the
> city" (Manhattan) and eat at the Horn and Hardart's Automat.
> http://www.theautomat.net/ Mom would give us each some nickles and we
> would be off. My favorite was the Macaroni and Cheese.
My aunt would take me to H&H when I'd stay with her. She
lived in the Bronx but she'd take me into Manhattan to see the
sights.
Later, I worked in the Liberty Plaza building, a block over from
the World Trade Center. I'd have lunch at a counter service place
across the street once in a while, they had date nut/cream cheese
sandwiches that were to die for. I know that's not much of a lunch. Hey.
Refresh my memory, the place was named for the brand of
coffee? I forget. It was a chain, like H&H. Eight O'Clock?
Across the street on the other side was a Woolworth's. I ate at
the counter a few times, the most memorable part was how loudly
you could hear the subway pass while sitting there.
nancy
I worked at a Woolworths when I was in high school. It had had a
lunch counter but it was gone when I worked there (83-85).
I loved that store. Other than the store manager and one other high
school student, all the employees were over 65. They were hysterical
to work with.
I still remember the old man who came in every day and bought a box
of tissues and a package of cookies. The cookies were 2 for $1.00
sandwich cookies. Sometimes he got just plain vanilla, sometimes
chocolate and other times the duplex (one cookie vanilla, and one
chocolate). He also always wore a long trench coat, no matter the
weather and a hat.
We had a Slush Puppie machine and popcorn at the registers. We
didn't pop the corn, it came in giant bags which we dumped into the
popcorn machine to warm it up.
Loved that place.
I didn't think there were any more left.
Tracy
> My aunt would take me to H&H when I'd stay with her. She lived in the
> Bronx but she'd take me into Manhattan to see the
> sights.
> Later, I worked in the Liberty Plaza building, a block over from
> the World Trade Center. I'd have lunch at a counter service place
> across the street once in a while, they had date nut/cream cheese
> sandwiches that were to die for. I know that's not much of a lunch. Hey.
> Refresh my memory, the place was named for the brand of
> coffee? I forget. It was a chain, like H&H. Eight O'Clock?
Chock Full O Nuts?
When I was a kid, the lunch counters we loved were one at a dinky little
diner on our Main Street, the Woolworth's counter and the Rexall store
fountain. When I got a little older and a tiny bit more worldly, Mom and
I would go to the restaurant/diner of a more upscale department store
local to us -- swank as hell when you haven't seen very much else! We
were duly impressed.
The first place I took my daughter to eat out was the last Woolworth
extant in our area. She loved going there and I loved taking her, so I
would make a point of having to stop at Woolworth's for something
whenever we were out and we would run in for a bite. She always had
grilled cheese and milk, and I always had cheeseburger on rye (with big
caraway seeds.... oooooo, I'm about starving to death thinking about it
right now!) served with free refills of some of the best coffee around.
She and I got the biggest kick out of shopping and eating at
Woolworth's. She cried loudly when they closed that store.
Chock Full 'o Nuts?
George L
>> sandwiches that were to die for. I know that's not much of a lunch.
>> Hey. Refresh my memory, the place was named for the brand of
>> coffee? I forget. It was a chain, like H&H. Eight O'Clock?
>
>
> Chock Full O Nuts?
Of course!! I could see the sign in my mind but not what
it said. Duh.
> When I was a kid, the lunch counters we loved were one at a dinky
> little diner on our Main Street, the Woolworth's counter and the
> Rexall store fountain. When I got a little older and a tiny bit more
> worldly, Mom and I would go to the restaurant/diner of a more upscale
> department store local to us -- swank as hell when you haven't seen
> very much else! We were duly impressed.
I'll say! My aunt would also take my family to restaurants, I guess
I never got over being impressed. I remember my first cheesecake
and my first popovers from those excursions.
> The first place I took my daughter to eat out was the last Woolworth
> extant in our area. She loved going there and I loved taking her, so I
> would make a point of having to stop at Woolworth's for something
> whenever we were out and we would run in for a bite. She always had
> grilled cheese and milk, and I always had cheeseburger on rye (with
> big caraway seeds.... oooooo, I'm about starving to death thinking
> about it right now!) served with free refills of some of the best
> coffee around. She and I got the biggest kick out of shopping and
> eating at Woolworth's. She cried loudly when they closed that store.
Awww. But just think that she'll always remember you taking her.
Those kind of memories are the best.
nancy
> I still remember the old man who came in every day and bought a box
> of tissues and a package of cookies. The cookies were 2 for $1.00
> sandwich cookies. Sometimes he got just plain vanilla, sometimes
> chocolate and other times the duplex (one cookie vanilla, and one
> chocolate). He also always wore a long trench coat, no matter the
> weather and a hat.
That's probably ALL he had on.
So sad, I couldn't come up with the name. But I do see
that I got the o' right and Chock=Clock? (laugh) Once
I got the Eight O'Clock in my head there was no getting around
it.
nancy
When I was young I ate at Woolworths a couple of times, but my older
brother ordered for me. Woolworths disappeared by the time I was old
enough to remember anything. We enjoyed eating at drugstores. My
brother would order my food and some kind of "phosphate" to drink. I
could see her making it above the counter. Again, I was too young to
remember.
In the small southern town where I lived in, local diners were more
popular. They served chicken & dumplings, catfish, fried chicken,
boudin, gumbo, dirty rice, meatloaf, macaroni & cheese, pinto beans,
turnip greens, fried okra, just ol' fashioned home cooking.
Becca
That is a problem. I want grilled buns.
--
Jean B.
Drugstores... The only root beer (or soft drink) I have ever
enjoyed was from a long-defunct drugstore. It had only 5 or so
seats at the counter.
--
Jean B.
<snip>
> Sounds like fun. The big treat when we were kids was to go into "the
> city" (Manhattan) and eat at the Horn and Hardart's Automat.
> http://www.theautomat.net/ Mom would give us each some nickles and we
> would be off. My favorite was the Macaroni and Cheese.
Oh, George, thanks for the memories! Macaroni and cheese was my all-time
favorite at the Horn & Hardart we visited as a treat in New York.
Felice
--
Jean B.
> On 6/22/2010 08:00, Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> My aunt would take me to H&H when I'd stay with her. She lived in
>> the Bronx but she'd take me into Manhattan to see the sights.
>> Later, I worked in the Liberty Plaza building, a block over from
>> the World Trade Center. I'd have lunch at a counter service place
>> across the street once in a while, they had date nut/cream cheese
>> sandwiches that were to die for. I know that's not much of a
>> lunch. Hey. Refresh my memory, the place was named for the brand
>> of coffee? I forget. It was a chain, like H&H. Eight O'Clock?
>
>
> Chock Full O Nuts?
BINGO!
> When I was a kid, the lunch counters we loved were one at a dinky
> little diner on our Main Street, the Woolworth's counter and the
> Rexall store fountain. When I got a little older and a tiny bit
> more worldly, Mom and I would go to the restaurant/diner of a more
> upscale department store local to us -- swank as hell when you
> haven't seen very much else! We were duly impressed.
>
> The first place I took my daughter to eat out was the last
> Woolworth extant in our area. She loved going there and I loved
> taking her, so I would make a point of having to stop at
> Woolworth's for something whenever we were out and we would run in
> for a bite. She always had grilled cheese and milk, and I always
> had cheeseburger on rye (with big caraway seeds.... oooooo, I'm
> about starving to death thinking about it right now!) served with
> free refills of some of the best coffee around. She and I got the
> biggest kick out of shopping and eating at Woolworth's. She cried
> loudly when they closed that store.
>
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
**********************************************************
Wayne Boatwright
>
> On 22-Jun-2010, Kalmia <tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> Five and dime counters were strictly for a real quick burger --
>> 30 cents, IIRC.
>
> Drugstores too. Back in the day (late '50s, early '60s) the major
> drug stores all had lunch counters too. Here (STL) the major
> drugstores were Rexall and Katz; Rexall had great burgers,
> fountain drinks and ice cream cones and sundaes. Katz had a wider
> variety of food, the standard fountain items; but, my favorite was
> limeade, made fresh all summer long and served in a tall glass you
> could keep for a small additional charge (5-10 cents???). To
> this day, I still drink limeade in the hotest, muggiest part of
> summer (like now).
>
> Sadly, Rexall was run into the ground by a CEO who rapidly
> expanded the company until it imploded. Katz was bought out by
> Skaggs which was bought out by Walgreens.
>
> Fortunately, we still have a lunch counter in my community; it's a
> stand alone, maybe 20 seats (roughly half booth, half stools at
> the counter) and been in business since the 40s. You can get a
> plate lunch (open-face roast beef with mashed potatoes, gravy and
> green beans is a good choice) or sandwiches (good burgers, I like
> 'em with grilled onions). Breakfast on the cheap, the blueberry
> pancakes are locally renowned. Heck, there's even scrapple for
> the geezers who seem to love it.
I fondly remember Katz drug stores, particularly the one in
Maplewood. (I think that was on Manchester.) Loved going to their
soda fountain. They made the best lime freezes and I never had less
than a tasty sandwich there regardless of kind. By standards of the
day, it was quite a large store. They had a great camera department,
and my dad bought me my first "developing kit" there.
> On 6/22/2010 10:13 AM, l, not -l wrote:
>> Drugstores too. Back in the day (late '50s, early '60s) the
>> major drug stores all had lunch counters too. Here (STL) the
>> major drugstores were Rexall and Katz; Rexall had great burgers,
>> fountain drinks and ice cream cones and sundaes. Katz had a
>> wider variety of food, the standard fountain items; but, my
>> favorite was limeade, made fresh all summer long and served in a
>> tall glass you could keep for a small additional charge (5-10
>> cents???). To this day, I still drink limeade in the hotest,
>> muggiest part of summer (like now).
>>
>> Sadly, Rexall was run into the ground by a CEO who rapidly
>> expanded the company until it imploded. Katz was bought out by
>> Skaggs which was bought out by Walgreens.
>>
>
> When I was young I ate at Woolworths a couple of times, but my
> older brother ordered for me. Woolworths disappeared by the time I
> was old enough to remember anything. We enjoyed eating at
> drugstores. My brother would order my food and some kind of
> "phosphate" to drink. I could see her making it above the counter.
> Again, I was too young to remember.
There was a small drugstore with a very small sofa fountain near
where I lived when I was 4-5 years old. I would sometimes get to go
with the "older kids" (7-9 years old) and order something. I almost
always ordered a "cherry false face", thinking that was what a
phosphate was.
> In the small southern town where I lived in, local diners were
> more popular. They served chicken & dumplings, catfish, fried
> chicken, boudin, gumbo, dirty rice, meatloaf, macaroni & cheese,
> pinto beans, turnip greens, fried okra, just ol' fashioned home
> cooking.
>
> Becca
>
There were two competing drug stores in Tupelo, MS when I was a kid.
They both had great soda fountains and lunch counters. Among the
variety of items one could order was an "ammonia Coke", but only for
adults. It was a fountain coke to which was added about a tablespoon
of spirits of ammonia. A great "pick me up" for those pre-air
conditioned days. Back then in that area only the theaters and a few
stores were fully air conditioned. It was rare for a home to have
a/c.
>
> However, I will go inside. I want to check out the lunch counter. I
> have fond memories of eating at a Woolworths lunch counter.
>
> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
>
More for the experience rather than the food. I used to go downtown
with my Aunt K Saturday mornings and lunch was either Salvati's Deli
or Woolworth's. Their BLT was perfect and their 25cent hot fudge
sundaes (with nuts, whipped cream and a cherry) were not too shabby, either.
gloria p
Steve
I loved going to Horn & Hardart's every time we visited New York. I
also remember the good mac and cheese, and their rice and bread
puddings were also a treat.
Don't remember the Market street Woolworth's having a lunch counter but
Maybe that was before my time. I do remember going to the Automat at Horn
and Hardart's at Broad and Chestnut streets, a block away and putting a
change into one of the hundreds of little vending windows and pulling out a
bowl of Mac-n-cheese or a plate of Ipswich (fried clams).
Jon
Ha!
But nope. He definitely had clothes on.
> Later, I worked in the Liberty Plaza building, a block over from
> the World Trade Center. I'd have lunch at a counter service place
> across the street once in a while, they had date nut/cream cheese
> sandwiches that were to die for. I know that's not much of a lunch. Hey.
> Refresh my memory, the place was named for the brand of
> coffee? I forget. It was a chain, like H&H. Eight O'Clock?
Chock Full O'Nuts.
gloria p
>On 2010-06-22, Christine Dabney <arti...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
>
>Of course!
>
>Kress, Woolworths, WT Grant.... they all had lunch counters back in
>the day.
I forgot about Kress and WT Grant. I thought I remembered Walgreens
having counters before they changed them to Wag's so I looked.
Looks like they started in 1910 and continued till the 80's
http://www.walgreens.com/marketing/about/history/hist3.jsp
IGA grocery stores also had counters. At least in the 70's.
Googling for Walgreens I found this unrelated Walgreen restaurant menu
from 1939. Great prices!
http://www.ameshistoricalsociety.org/exhibits/walgreens.htm
Lou
Rexall was not a chain, but a buyers' co-op like True Value Hardware.
Each store was independently owned; they banded together to be able to
buy nationally branded products and benefit from nationwide promotion.
Rexall sponsored retwork radio shows such as Amos 'n' Andy and Phil
Harris-Alice Faye, keeping the brand fresh in consumers' minds: "Good
Health to All.... from Rexall!"
>
> Fortunately, we still have a lunch counter in my community; it's a stand
> alone, maybe 20 seats (roughly half booth, half stools at the counter) and
> been in business since the 40s. You can get a plate lunch (open-face roast
> beef with mashed potatoes, gravy and green beans is a good choice) or
> sandwiches (good burgers, I like 'em with grilled onions). Breakfast on the
> cheap, the blueberry pancakes are locally renowned. Heck, there's even
> scrapple for the geezers who seem to love it.
The businessman's lunch and the Blue Plate Special.
I used to pass by a building in Chicago's South Loop every day with a
facade marked "Horn and Hardart." I guess they tried but failed to
make the Automat work in Chicago.
> However, I will go inside. I want to check out the lunch counter. I
> have fond memories of eating at a Woolworths lunch counter. And
> judging from the responses I have gotten to my FB posting, others have
> fond memories too.
>
> Anyone else have memories, even fond memories?
>
I remember kids sitting at the counter, shooting drinking straw
wrappers at each other. After the straw makers got smart and started
putting holes in the end of the wrappers, the kids would have to twist
the ends of the wrappers to be able to shoot them.
I think Woolworth's was where I had a frozen cherry Coke.
The thing I associate most with Woolworth's was the cheeping birds
they had for sale. Each Woolworth's sold pets.
Don't forget the 49 cent Flame-glo lipsticks which lived under glass.
A clerk had to extract and show each one.
Mine also had goldfish, plus a FREE 45 player in the record section.
I can recall they had to take it away after some kid played "Stranded
in the Jungle" and "Maybelline" a few dozen times.
(Now, who sang THOSE, all you trivia experts?)
Concerning Woolworth's lunch counter, there is a display model of one
at the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, TN. Everyone should
visit that museum. The *International* Civil Rights Center and Museum
is in Greensboro, NC, also has a Woolworth's lunch counter
SEE: http://www.ohenryhotel.com/international_civil_rights_museum_greensboro.htm
The food was not any good at the one near us, in Crestwood Plaza, but
they did make real milkshakes.
--Bryan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-qgBB3DgNQ
--Bryan
Thanks for the laugh, Wayne. Now I will always remember "cherry false
face". I believe that is what I had also. Life was much simpler back
then. Oh gosh, now I'm sounding old. lol
Becca
I have memories of the food counter being there but I don't remember eating
there. We had one in the only real shopping center in our town when I was a
kid and it was pretty much the only place to hang out when we got to the
driving age and had a car to get there.
As for the shopping center, I can remember just driving around and around
the parking lot with a car full of people to see who we could find.
Everyone was there of course. lol
Now know as rec.food.cooking
Another reference to Horn and Hardart's. Any relation to Horn and Horn?
That's the only Horn and anything I remember.
ROFL!!! Like a bowl of granola...
What ain't fruits or nuts is flakes? ;-)
JUST KIDDING!!!
--
Peace! Om
Web Albums: <http://picasaweb.google.com/OMPOmelet>
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat. --Alex Levine
I am old, and it was much simpler back then. I would not want to be
a kid today.
>
> On 22-Jun-2010, Wayne Boatwright <waynebo...@xgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I fondly remember Katz drug stores, particularly the one in
>> Maplewood. (I think that was on Manchester.) Loved going to
>> their soda fountain. They made the best lime freezes and I never
>> had less than a tasty sandwich there regardless of kind. By
>> standards of the day, it was quite a large store. They had a
>> great camera department, and my dad bought me my first
>> "developing kit" there.
>
> Yes, it was on Manchester, on a corner; I think the cross street
> was Sutton, which would have put it at the heart of Maplewood.
> The streetcars would travel west on Manchester, turn south on
> Sutton to go a short distance to "the Sutton Loop" turn-around and
> head back into the city of St. Louis. Once the streetcars were
> gone, and still the practice, buses follow that same route. It
> made Katz an ideal stop for the local resident on the way to or
> from work downtown and for the many people who lived along the
> route from Kingshighway to Maplewood.
Yes, I think it was at Sutton, and I do remember the Sutton loop. In
1947 my parents owned a 4-family flat at 4608 Cleveland Avenue on the
other side of Kingshighway. In 1950 we moved to Maplewood on
Alameda. In 1955 we moved to Creve Coeur, where we lived until we
left Missouri. IIRC, there was a supermarket kitty corner across
from Katz drugstore. Somewhere in that area of Manchester there was
a tiny foot-long hot dog stand. They served great chili-dogs and the
red Vess cream soda.
Back in the days of over-the-counter drugs that really worked... like
the Rexall cold capsules with real atropine in them.
--Bryan
No relationship. Horn & Horn was Maryland based
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Coffee_Pot
Horn & Hardart was Philadelphia based.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_%26_Hardart
Horn & Hardart was a food services company of the USA noted for operating
the first food service automats in Philadelphia and New York City.
Philadelphia's Joseph Horn (1861-1941) and German-born, New Orleans-raised,
Frank Hardart opened their first restaurant together in Philadelphia on
December 22, 1888. The small (11 x 17 feet) lunchroom at 39 South Thirteenth
Street did not have any tables, only a counter with 15 stools.
By introducing New Orleans-style French-drip coffee, which Hardart promoted
as their "gilt-edge" brew, they made their tiny luncheonette a local
attraction. News of the coffee spread, and the business flourished. They
incorporated as the Horn & Hardart Baking Company during 1898.[1]
Oh! I am drooling! I wonder whether I will ever get to that area
again (and whether Carl's will still be in business).
--
Jean B.
LOL
>> Back in the days of over-the-counter drugs that really worked... like
>> the Rexall cold capsules with real atropine in them.
>
> Nice point.
Yes. Also, cough syrups that were more than mere pancake toppings.
There's only one thing that will kill that tickle-in-your-throat cough
that is so deadly during a cold dry Winter, and that's codeine.
nb
My doctor used to prescribe a red liquid from the pharmacy for a
really bad cough. I found you could get it over the counter, but you
had to know what to ask for. It used to almost put me to sleep, and
did the cough disappear quick.
I drive past it ever day on the way to work, and never stop. The food
wasn't anything special, though in the late 1970s we used to eat there
because they had The Clash on their jukebox. The appeal was the
atmosphere, not the food.
The Brentwood police sit right across the street from Carl's and shoot
radar.
>
> --
> Jean B.
--Bryan
>Sounds like fun. The big treat when we were kids was to go into "the
>city" (Manhattan) and eat at the Horn and Hardart's Automat.
>http://www.theautomat.net/ Mom would give us each some nickles and we
>would be off. My favorite was the Macaroni and Cheese.
I envy you that experience! I have never been to an automat.
Automats always remind me of From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E.
Frankweiler. The children in that book ate macaroni and cheese from
the automat, and I think baked beans or beans and franks. It was a
revelation to the sister that she did not have to choose breakfast
foods in the morning.
I do remember lunches at Shea's Drug Store. When I was four or five,
I thought that soup and salad was the most sophisticated meal one
could ever eat. I always chose a cup of soup and a side salad. I
thought I was a lady who lunches.
Tara
Kresge stores in the Detroit area had lunch counters. I always got a club
sandwich.
Jim
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> Kresge stores in the Detroit area had lunch counters. I always got a club
> sandwich.
Kresge was the beginning of the modern big-box store. Mr. Kresge
developed Kmart.
All the original Kmarts had small "cafeterias" in them. Depending on who
was running that department, the food could be very good and it was
reasonably priced. I knew of one store where the grill manager would
have an "employee lunch special" every day and post the menu by the time
clock a month in advance so the workers could plan their lunches.
She was the most popular employee in the store.
George L
When both the straws and their wrappers were made of paper?
<and individual servings of milk came in glass bottles with cardboard
stoppers, and we had to get the teacher to open our milk for us because
we only had stumpy little kid fingers but she had fingernails!!... I am
so old>
Hi Chris! (I deleted my Facebook account; thanks to everyone who 'friended'
me there but the whole thing really held no appeal.) I have fond memories
of eating at a Woolworth's lunch counter around 1979 when I was working at a
store in a mall. It was a short walk down the mall to get to Woolworth's.
I'd usually just order a burger but sometimes I'd get fish & chips. The
food was okay, nothing to brag about. But it was hot and always ready
quickly, leaving me some time to browse in the store. I still have some
wonderful cut shell costume jewelry on macrame cords I bought there :)
Jill
I still have a box of paper straws. Utterly useless, don't know how
we used them when we were kids, but maybe that's why I still have the
box<G>.
maxine in ri
No, that is just wrong. Food in 1979 was far different than today; expectations
were for simple and quick and tasty, there was no gourmet fast food elite such
as KFC's chicken filet sandwiches or the latest burger inside two grilled cheese
sammies, but it was fast, substantial and nourishing. I never found Woolworth's
lacking in any of these criteria. The Woolworth food was as braggable as any
other; back then no one bragged, we just ate decent food. Their burgers and
tuna sandwiches and pies were great. For that time, which is true and real.
pavane
>
> I still have a box of paper straws. Utterly useless, don't know how
> we used them when we were kids,
Plastic anything was pretty rare int he 50s except for crummy celluloid.
You had to drink quickly because the paper straws fell apart when they
were wet. How spoiled we have become!
gloria p
good old woolworth's!
your pal,
rastus
> IGA grocery stores also had counters. At least in the 70's.
My local food group:
ba.food
has a discussion going on now about getting lunch at grocery stores in
my city. Maybe it's coming back?
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
We have at least three grocery stores in our small city that have deli's
with seating and sell lunches. One actually has a buffet breakfast and
lunch every day of the week, reasonably priced too.
>In article <6ar126p6tsrja640q...@4ax.com>,
> Lou Decruss <LouDe...@biteme.com> wrote:
>
>
>> IGA grocery stores also had counters. At least in the 70's.
>
>My local food group:
>
>ba.food
>
>has a discussion going on now about getting lunch at grocery stores in
>my city. Maybe it's coming back?
It never left here. There's lots of places you can do that.
Second picture down tells it all. And the stuff is good.
http://www.bobak.com/?co=store
Lou
Yeah.
You're reminding me of visits to the dentist (my GOD has dentistry
advanced since then, and all in good ways) when I was a kid. He had his
office behind an independent drug store and he always gave me a
certificate for an ice cream cone when he was done torturing me.
But later, in high school, the other pharmacy got my custom and that of
most of the other guys in the school. Debbie O'Neill, the prettiest
girl in the school, was the soda jerk there, and you could get anything
you wanted, except for Debbie, but we all kept buying and trying.
Well, dentistry, that's a different issue. :-) I was fortunate to
have a dentist who bordered on genius when it came to local
anesthesia. My primary molars never loosened enough to be pulled at
home, so was taken to an oral surgeon who used laughing gas. His
office was in a large downtown building which housed a pharmacy on
the ground floor with a terrific soda fountain. I always ended up
with a malt afterwards.
> But later, in high school, the other pharmacy got my custom and
> that of most of the other guys in the school. Debbie O'Neill, the
> prettiest girl in the school, was the soda jerk there, and you
> could get anything you wanted, except for Debbie, but we all kept
> buying and trying.
It never hurts to try. :-)
--
~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~
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Wayne Boatwright
Finally I've got a dentist with that kind of genius. No malts but she'd
gorgeous and Russian and so is her technician and when they're working
they revert to their native language and it's kind of like being James
Bond for a day.
>> But later, in high school, the other pharmacy got my custom and
>> that of most of the other guys in the school. Debbie O'Neill, the
>> prettiest girl in the school, was the soda jerk there, and you
>> could get anything you wanted, except for Debbie, but we all kept
>> buying and trying.
>
> It never hurts to try. :-)
You know, I think you just answered a question I've been meaning to ask.
There was a "Wayne Boatright" in that same class--since you don't
mention a fond memory of Debbie O'Neill I take it you are not he.
I no longer need a dentist for the usual reasons. July 7th of last
year I had all my teeth extracted and immediate temporary dentures
set in place. Until I found the surgeon who did the procedure I was
terrified at the thought of doing it, but a co-worker had used this
surgeon with great success. My surgeon is Korean and she has a
charming accent, although there's no one else there for her to
converse with in Korean. I was totally amazed at her deftness with
the procedure. It was done under twilight sleep and local
anesthesia. I never had a moment of pain either during or after the
surgery. She prescribed a week's supply of percocet for pain, and I
did take one when I got home and went to bed. I never needed another
one. I had followup appointments at 6 week intervals until two
months ago when I received my final dentures. This doctor has such a
high tech fitting procedure that they feel like natural teeth. I
lucked out.
>>> But later, in high school, the other pharmacy got my custom and
>>> that of most of the other guys in the school. Debbie O'Neill,
>>> the prettiest girl in the school, was the soda jerk there, and
>>> you could get anything you wanted, except for Debbie, but we all
>>> kept buying and trying.
>>
>> It never hurts to try. :-)
>
> You know, I think you just answered a question I've been meaning
> to ask.
> There was a "Wayne Boatright" in that same class--since you
> don't
> mention a fond memory of Debbie O'Neill I take it you are not he.
No, that would not be me.