magnetic knife rack - pros and cons?
val189
knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted
on the wall right by the stove.
Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
guessing game. No?
Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
treat knives.
Sheldon
I don't think they're safe... the blades are fully exposed and so it's
far too easy to have a lapse and reach for a blade... plus they
magnetize the blade so that it attracts microscopic slivers of metal
that ends up in food, plus where will you keep your knife steel? You
are infinitely better off, and so are your knives, with a wooden knife
block. And don't get the largest, get the smallest... no one needs to
display more than 4-5 knives plus a steel at the ready.
Dave Smith
I have on of those Ikea magnetic strips. I was looking for one and Ikea
was the only place I could find one. I use it to old my paring knives,
zester, peelerl can openers and a few other things. It is great.
Nancy Young
I like my knife strip just fine, just take care putting them
back, don't just slap them up there. It's very handy and
beats having them in the drawer.
nancy
Sheldon
So it's become your junk drawer... Kew-L.
Janet Wilder
I have one mounted on the inside of a kitchen cabinet where I keep
paring knives and my veggie peeler. I keep my *real* knives in a block
where they are supposed to be kept.
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
Dave Smith
>>> Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
>>> treat knives.
>> I have on of those Ikea magnetic strips. I was looking for one and Ikea
>> was the only place I could find one. I use it to old my paring knives,
>> zester, peelerl can openers and a few other things. It is great.
>
> So it's become your junk drawer... Kew-L.
It certainly saves me from having to root around in a drawer with a lot
of sharp edges. I stick them on there with the handles down so I can
reach over and grab the handle. I only use it for small things. I
wouldn't stick any of my good knives on it. I stick them into a knife block.
Sheldon
> val189 wrote:
> > Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> > knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. �They had it mounted
> > on the wall right by the stove.
>
> > Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
> > guessing game. �No?
>
> > Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
> > treat knives.
>
> I have one mounted on the inside of a kitchen cabinet where I keep
> paring knives and my veggie peeler. I keep my *real* knives in a block
> where they are supposed to be kept.
And if a slant block with the cutting edge *UP*... most times when I'm
in others kitchens I notice they slide the blades in with the business
end down (I suppose because they think that's the position knives are
used), but then not only does the constant sliding in and out dull the
edge but the knife slot gets all fercockted up and enlarged as the
blade keeps slicing into the wood. It's like how yer supposed to
thrust the knives in doggie style, then the slots stay virginal much
longer. LOL
Gloria P
I have one from Bed,Bath & Beyond. I like having my good knives handy
without the knife block taking up so much of my limited counter space.
gloria p
SteveB
"Gloria P" <gpue...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6s5gtaF...@mid.individual.net...
I've been pondering this, and being the McGyver type, I think I've come up
with a plausible alternative. I find blocks a bother, and unsanitary. I
think magnetic strips are handy, but would worry about dropping one, and the
holding power of some stainless knives. A drawer (which is what I have now)
is totally dangerous. Especially to me, as I take coumadin.
So, I believe I will take a strip of oak, cut the back at a slight angle to
make it mount upwards in the front, and cut grooves in it like thin fingers
straight on perpendicular to the wall. Then mount that to a nice piece of
birch 3/8" plywood that has been routed round on the edge. The strip will
be routed round, too, before slicing. All will be stained and finish
sanded. When I want to hang a knife, I just put it in one of the grooves,
handle up and sharp edge to the inside, blade resting on the plywood. I can
make some special grooves for steels, tine forks, Chinese cleaver/chopper,
etc.
On the list of winter projects.
Steve
Mark Thorson
>
> Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > And if a slant block with the cutting edge *UP*... most times when I'm
> > in others kitchens I notice they slide the blades in with the business
> > end down (I suppose because they think that's the position knives are
> > used), but then not only does the constant sliding in and out dull the
>
> Gee - just like using a wooden cutting board, except not
> nearly as bad since you're not applying pressure.
Unless of course, it's oriented transverse to
Earth's magnetic field, which would disorganize
the metallic grain structure.
And exposing the knife edge to moonlight, which
is polarized light. Nothing dulls an edge as
quick as that. :-)
Giusi
> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted> on
> the wall right by the stove.
Although not near the stove where they might get greasy, I use a 24" one and
wouldn't consider another way to keep my knives. I already have too much
crap on the counters and I have less than most, I think.
> Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
> guessing game. No?
I don't get ugly? What's ugly about a series of beautiful tools? In a
bedroom or a living room, maybe, but a kitchen is a workroom, right?
> Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to>
> treat knives.
My kniferack also has other steel items, such as nutmeg grater, cheese
spade, dough scraper, truffle slicer. I like putting my hand out and always
finding just what I need-- kitchenwise anyway.
Giusi
> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited
"I don't think they're safe... the blades are fully exposed and so it's
far too easy to have a lapse and reach for a blade... plus they
magnetize the blade so that it attracts microscopic slivers of metal
that ends up in food, plus where will you keep your knife steel? "
It would be ridiculously difficult to grab the blade because that's where it
is attached, while the handle is below and easy to grab. Yes, they do get
magnetized, so what? I do not do metal drilling or lathing in my kitchen,
therefore I do not have microscopic metal bits other than those which might
occur in any atmosphere, in which case I couldn't avoid them, anyway.
The steel does live in a drawer, so what?
"You are infinitely better off, and so are your knives, with a wooden knife
block. "
Pnly if you are someone who uses a set of knives rather than a variety
chosen for the purposes required. I have a couple of handmade carbon steel
knives that would require custom made blocks...
HawaiianEye
>
> I don't think they're safe...
Quite right! Not safe at all, but not for the reasons you give, (no
disrespect intended, Sheldon.)
Few would grab a blade edge. Not many metal splinters except when
sharpening, BUT..............
All those exposed sharp edges are ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!!
About as bad as it can get in a kitchen, other than having your sink
right next to the stove, or the stove right next to the fridge!
The mag strips are easy to use, can be seen as good looking, but
certainly not worth the disaster they can cause to one's overall harmony.
Giusi
Ahh, but I have crystals and water sources to combat that. Plus a Greek
fish hanging in the money corner. Since there are at least 100 beams in my
kitchen, a few knife blades won't bother me as long as I have my crystals
and water! and fish
Jean B.
I like mine too. But one needs to take care not to damage the
cutting edge of the blade, which is easily done. You want to put
the knives on with the blunt edge leading--and not totally flat or
with the cutting edge leading. You also want to take it off so
the non-cutting edge is affected. I hadn't thought of the issues
that Sheldon raised....
--
Jean B.
blake murphy
> Sheldon <PENM...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think they're safe... the blades are fully exposed and so it's
>> far too easy to have a lapse and reach for a blade...
>
> That sounds like the Crystal Palace vodka talking. They're not
> unsafe for a normal person. And they stick well. Mine, you could
> throw a knife at it from 5 feet away and if you hit the bar, it'll
> stick.
>
> -sw
the only 'unsafety' i can think of is if you're clumsy and knock a knife
off the bar and it falls to the floor and possibly your foot. (grabbing
the blade seems a little far-fetched, but if anyone's up to the task, it's
sheldon.)
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
plus, i could stick my japanese cleaver on there, which was rather thick
and heavy.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
some of us like to live on the edge.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
that's another consideration.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
> val189 <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
>> knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted
>> on the wall right by the stove.
>>
>> Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
>> guessing game. No?
>
> I think magnetic knife holders are sexy.
>
> I just wish I had a place to mount mine it in the new house. All
> the cabinets hang too low and none of them have accessible sides
> near the prep areas.
>
> -sw
i can't figure out a place to put one in my kitchen, either. i do have a
few paring knives and a kiwi stuck to the side of my refrigerator with
small, round ceramic magnets from the hardware store. they're pretty
powerful, and cost a couple bucks for six to ten of them, depending on
size.
<http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXTZW3&P=M>
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
hmm, never thought of sticking the vegetable peeler to the fridge with a
magnet. <does so> cool. won't have to rummage around for it anymore.
your pal,
blake
Sheldon
> Giusi <decobabe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My kniferack also has other steel items, such as nutmeg grater, cheese
> > spade, dough scraper, truffle slicer. �I like putting my hand out and always
> > finding just what I need-- kitchenwise anyway.
>
That's not true... the stainless used for cutlery is especially
magnetic, plenty magnetic enough to be held securely by those magnetic
knife racks... the stainless alloy for cutlery needs to contain a high
percentage of iron so it can take and hold an edge. And that's my
main complaint about those magnetic knife racks, they magnetize knives
so that they hold on to minute slivers of metal... anyone with a tool
box only need to look at the tips of magnetic screwdrivers to see what
finds its way into food from magnetic knives... everytime you steel a
knife metal slivers are created, and they don't readily wipe off from
magnetic knives, they jump right back on as the wipe rag passes by...
eventually teh knife blade will become more and more magnetic to the
point that the metal slivers wont even wash off. Knives become
magnetized regardless, and should always be wiped and visually
examined for metal bits, but why do anything that will make them more
magnetic. Most craftsmen that rely on tools to ply their trade own a
demagnetizer. People who do fine woodworking don't want metal slivers
transfering from planes and chisels and embedding into their wooden
projects, they will eventually rust and stain the wood... when those
metal slivers on your knife edge end up in your food imagine what they
can do to your intestines.
Stainless sinks and appliances are typically non-magnetic, they
contain much less iron so they don't become stained, just like much of
the older stainless cookware is pretty much non-magnetic, but the
newer cookware is purposely made magnetic so it can be used with
induction stoves. If your stainless cookware is magnetic do NOT clean
it in the dishwasher, the more magnetic the stainless the more iron it
contains so the more easily it will become pitted. It's a good idea
to periodically check all kitchen equipment with a magnet to remind
oneself which items require taking more care regarding staining/
pitting, and particle transfer. Most quality stainless cookware warns
against subjecting it to strongly acetic substances (vinegar) and
brines... most specify hand washing is preferred as dishwashing
compounds are caustic, and most folks tend to be overly generous with
its use... if you have reasonably soft water using half the
recommended amount is more than sufficient.
Sheldon
Geeze, you can shove it up your ass and save steps.
Omelet
<43eb2bf9-0732-499a...@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
val189 <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted
> on the wall right by the stove.
>
> Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
> guessing game. No?
>
> Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
> treat knives.
I have many knives in the drawer, but my most often used ones are stuck
to the outside of the stove hood.
There is a super magnet on the other side of the metal. <G>
Other than looks, I can see NO downside to a magnetic knife holder.
--
Peace! Om
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive." -- Dalai Lama
Sheldon
> In article
> <43eb2bf9-0732-499a-af4d-08d9169d4...@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> �val189 <gwehr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> > knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. �They had it mounted
> > on the wall right by the stove.
>
> > Altho sort of ugly, I thought it beat a knife block and the resulting
> > guessing game. �No?
>
> > Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
> > treat knives.
>
> I have many knives in the drawer, but my most often used ones are stuck
> to the outside of the stove hood.
>
> There is a super magnet on the other side of the metal. <G>
>
> Other than looks, I can see NO downside to a magnetic knife holder.
If you had Omar the tentmaker produce magnetic panties for you think
how many more knives you can stick to your ass.
Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
Is there a Feng Shui newsgroup? I'm not sending you there, I'd like
to check it out if there is one, though.
Carol
--
Change JamesBond to his agent number to reply.
Omelet
Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
>In article <6qjsl453saccscm25...@4ax.com>,
> Damsel in dis Dress <carol-56...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:15:58 +0100, "Giusi" <decob...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"HawaiianEye" scritto nel essaggio
>> >
>> >> Few would grab a blade edge. Not many metal splinters except when >
>> >> sharpening, BUT..............
>> >>
>> >> All those exposed sharp edges are ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!! About
>> >> as bad as it can get in a kitchen, other than having your sink > right
>> >> next to the stove, or the stove right next to the fridge!
>> >>
>> >> The mag strips are easy to use, can be seen as good looking, but certainly
>> >> not worth the disaster they can cause to one's overall harmony.
>> >
>> >Ahh, but I have crystals and water sources to combat that. Plus a Greek
>> >fish hanging in the money corner. Since there are at least 100 beams in my
>> >kitchen, a few knife blades won't bother me as long as I have my crystals
>> >and water! and fish
>>
>> Is there a Feng Shui newsgroup? I'm not sending you there, I'd like
>> to check it out if there is one, though.
>
>I'd like to see pics of Giusi's kitchen. :-)
So would I. I wonder if water, radiator, and sewage pipes running
through the kitchen qualify as water sources?
I *will* post pictures of our hilarious house once we get moved in.
Damsel in dis Dress
Omelet
Damsel in dis Dress <carol-56...@charter.net> wrote:
> >> Is there a Feng Shui newsgroup? I'm not sending you there, I'd like
> >> to check it out if there is one, though.
> >
> >I'd like to see pics of Giusi's kitchen. :-)
>
> So would I. I wonder if water, radiator, and sewage pipes running
> through the kitchen qualify as water sources?
>
> I *will* post pictures of our hilarious house once we get moved in.
>
> Carol
I look forward to them. :-)
Blinky the Shark
Within the context of this part of the thread, I'd think taking photos of
a kitchen would steal its soul or perhaps upset its humours, or at least
upset its dead ancestors.
--
Blinky
The Worldwide Squirrel Shooters Association: http://thewssa.org
Killing all posts from Google Groups -
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky the Shark
"I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a knife hung on a magnetic
rack. That's my dream. That's my nightmare. Crawling, slithering, along
the edge of a santoku knife and surviving."
Gloria P
If your harmony can be disrupted by a few knife blades,
you need more than a knife block in your life.
Feng shui may be a fun party topic, but kitchens are Real Life.
gloria p
RegForte
> Feng shui may be a fun party topic, but kitchens are Real Life.
LOL
Best quote of 2009 so far :)
notbob
> I look forward to them. :-)
I always loved the line from one of those whacky college kid movies where
you can hear the PA in the background announcing, "Attention: Will the feng
shui class please refrain from rearranging the furniture on the quad", or
something to that effect.
nb
notbob
> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted
> on the wall right by the stove.
If it's good enough for Julia, it's good enough for me:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/juliachild/
nb
The Ranger
news:1aqegyntz8ji8.1ulqdguofmsc1$.dlg@40tude.net...
[snip]
> If it's good enough for Julia, it's good enough for me:
>
> http://americanhistory.si.edu/juliachild/
>
The Ranger
Janet Baraclough
<43eb2bf9-0732-499a...@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
from val189 <gweh...@bellsouth.net> contains these words:
> Saw one of these from Ikea in house I visited - host loves it - all
> knives easy to identify and at fingertip touch. They had it mounted
> on the wall right by the stove.
If the blades are any good, that's a dangerous way to keep them. They
are too easily knocked off and
if a blade point lands in a hard surface it can easily pole-vault the
knife ..anywhere.
Many untrained people will instinctively try to catch a falling knife.
Forgetting that their sleeves are probably rolled back for cooking and
their wrist arteries
are very close to the surface.
> Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
> treat knives.
My kitchen knives live in their own shallow drawer. It's lined with
a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
Janet
Damsel in dis Dress
Damsel in dis Dress
<janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> My kitchen knives live in their own shallow drawer. It's lined with
>a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
>touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
>another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
I like that! Thank you. :)
notbob
Lack of imagination is not your hue....
check out the "EXPLORE THE KITCHEN EXHIBIT" link and look between the
venetian blinds to the left of the sinks. She had the same knife magnets
on her tv show.
nb
sf
wrote:
>So, I believe I will take a strip of oak, cut the back at a slight angle to
>make it mount upwards in the front, and cut grooves in it like thin fingers
>straight on perpendicular to the wall. Then mount that to a nice piece of
>birch 3/8" plywood that has been routed round on the edge. The strip will
>be routed round, too, before slicing. All will be stained and finish
>sanded. When I want to hang a knife, I just put it in one of the grooves,
>handle up and sharp edge to the inside, blade resting on the plywood. I can
>make some special grooves for steels, tine forks, Chinese cleaver/chopper,
>etc.
Why not just make a dedicated knife drawer with a slotted/grooved
piece of wood? You could even make it a double decker if you have
that many knives. I'd make the top a slider and put my small knives
on it.
--
I never worry about diets. The only carrots that
interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
Mae West
sf
<rjyn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>I like my knife strip just fine, just take care putting them
>back, don't just slap them up there. It's very handy and
>beats having them in the drawer.
My parents and grandparents had what amounted to one long knife slot
mounted on the end of the cabinet close to the prep area. Virtually
every size knife was accommodated.
sf
<blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>the only 'unsafety' i can think of is if you're clumsy and knock a knife
>off the bar and it falls to the floor and possibly your foot. (grabbing
>the blade seems a little far-fetched, but if anyone's up to the task, it's
>sheldon.)
There's someone over in abf who regularly damages himself. I think he
dropped a knife on his foot not too long ago too. I don't understand
how that man is still alive. On top of that, he's passed the clumsy
gene on to his DD who injured her eye rather badly a couple of months
ago.
koko
snippage
>
>All those exposed sharp edges are ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!!
>About as bad as it can get in a kitchen, other than having your sink
>right next to the stove, or the stove right next to the fridge!
Oh crap, I'm doomed, really, really doomed. =8-(
koko
--
There is no love more sincere than the love of food
George Bernard Shaw
www.kokoscorner.typepad.com
updated 12/31
Ed Pawlowski
"Janet Baraclough" <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> My kitchen knives live in their own shallow drawer. It's lined with
> a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
>
> Janet
I'd need too many drawers to do that. I have some on a strip and none have
fallen in 30 years that it has been in use. Others are in the rack. I wash
the knives before putting them in to keep it hygienic.
Giusi
Omelet > wrote:
>> Damsel in dis Dress
"Giusi" >>>
ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!!
>>> >Ahh, but I have crystals and water sources to combat that. Plus a
>>> >Greek >>> >fish hanging in the money corner. Since there are at least
>>> >100 beams in my >>> >kitchen, a few knife blades won't bother me as
>>> >long as I have my crystals >and water! and fish
>>>
>>> Is there a Feng Shui newsgroup? I'm not sending you there, I'd like>>>
>>> to check it out if there is one, though.
I haven't a clue! I had to read a Feng shui book for a job one time-- a
woman who was totally involved in it. I charged for the time to rtead the
book, too!
>>I'd like to see pics of Giusi's kitchen. :-)
My site is undergoing repairs after an upgrade, but as soon as it is done I
will give you a link to the kitchen shots.
>
> So would I. I wonder if water, radiator, and sewage pipes running
> through the kitchen qualify as water sources?
>
Not unless water comes out of them, which for your sake I hope it isn't.
Giusi
>>> Is there a Feng Shui newsgroup? I'm not sending you there, I'd like>>>
>>> to check it out if there is one, though.
>>
>>I'd like to see pics of Giusi's kitchen. :-)
>
> So would I. I wonder if water, radiator, and sewage pipes running
> through the kitchen qualify as water sources?
http://www.judithgreenwood.com/thinkonit/the-kitchen-meme/
It has changed again since then with the table now in the living room
instead of blocking the fireplace. The dining part is now my
office/sitting/music/TV space. Remember, this house is 500 years old and
the walls are solid stone and 3-4 feet thick, so many things you think would
be nice are not possible at all.
HawaiianEye
Can 6,000,000,000 Chinese be wrong?!? Next you're going to tell me that
I'm NOT getting the $15,000,000 from that pol in Nigeria!
HawaiianEye
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:07:42 -0800, HawaiianEye
> <Hawai...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> snippage
>> All those exposed sharp edges are ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!!
>> About as bad as it can get in a kitchen, other than having your sink
>> right next to the stove, or the stove right next to the fridge!
>
> Oh crap, I'm doomed, really, really doomed. =8-(
>
Don't worry, Koko. With Feng Shui there is ALWAYS an easy solution!
Do you have room in there for a small, gently flowing river?
No, huh? O.K. then symbolic dividers will have to suffice. A little toy
plastic fence from a child's play set is a great divider between
conflicting features. Tape it to the side of the fridge between the
fridge and the stove, etc. In Feng Shui, it's the idea that counts just
as much as the reality.
Becca
> There's someone over in abf who regularly damages himself. I think he
> dropped a knife on his foot not too long ago too. I don't understand
> how that man is still alive. On top of that, he's passed the clumsy
> gene on to his DD who injured her eye rather badly a couple of months
> ago.
Most of the time, I burn myself on something. A few years ago, a frozen
turkey fell off the top shelf of my upright freezer and landed on my
foot. I never curse, but I would have then, except that my body just
froze up tight.
Becca
Jean B.
> If the blades are any good, that's a dangerous way to keep them. They
> are too easily knocked off and
> if a blade point lands in a hard surface it can easily pole-vault the
> knife ..anywhere.
> Many untrained people will instinctively try to catch a falling knife.
> Forgetting that their sleeves are probably rolled back for cooking and
> their wrist arteries
> are very close to the surface.
>
>> Right now, my knives are lying in a drawer - yes, I know, a bad way to
>> treat knives.
>
> My kitchen knives live in their own shallow drawer. It's lined with
> a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
>
> Janet
>
The magnet on my knife rack is VERY strong. I have never had a
knife fall off it.
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
this site, I get a screen that is about 1-inch square, with no way
to drag or enlarge it. :-( Does anyone else have this problem?
I guess you, nb, could actually see the kitchen.
--
Jean B.
SteveB
>> a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
>> touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
>> Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
>> another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
>>
>> Janet
I got too many for that, take coumadin, and stuff happens. I have just
gotten my router and table saw set up to do some bird houses, feeders, and
storm dorms, and have an idea for a knife rack. I will post pictures as it
goes along on flickr. Going to HD today for some materials.
Steve
Sheldon
>
> � �My kitchen knives live in �their own �shallow drawer. It's lined with
> a clean �cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> � �Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> another knife or a blade. �Far more hygienic than a knife block.
How is that more hygienic... It's no more hygienic than a knife block
and probably much less so... you must be assuming those with knife
blocks don't wash knives before placing them into the block but
perfect you are so much more fastidious and always wash all your
knives before tucking them into their widdle tea towel... and if
you're going to tell me that you launder that towel more than once in
six months I'll call you a liar.
For those who prefer keeping knives in a drawer there are knife blocks
for drawers that are far better than using a stupid towel.. I can see
using a drawer to store little used cutlery but for knives used often
a drawer is inane. And there are many styles of counter top/wall
mounted knife blocks/racks, all better in every respect than the towel
in drawer method, and all infinitely superiour to the magnetic
strip... people buy those magnetic strips for two reason, because they
are cheap and because they truely don't comprehend the inherent
dangers of magnetized kitchenware. And keeping regularly used cutlery
in a drawer is plain dumb... only a pointy headed imbecile will devise
a method that requires opening and closing a drawer every time a knife
is removed or replaced.. and where does that just hand washed knife go
while it dries, between the cheeks of your ass... there is nothing
hygienic about placing a still damp knife onto a towel inside a
drawer. And kitchen work means wet and food covered hands, there is
nothing hygienic about handling drawer pulls and reaching into drawers
dozens of times while preparing each meal.
When a knife block is used properly the cutting edge and sides of a
blade never touch the inside of the knife slot... and knife blocks are
as easy to sanitize as cutting boards. And nowadays there are high
impact plastic knife blocks that can go in the dishwasher... quite a
few styles/sizes in different price ranges from $20-$120+... F. Dick
makes a beauty.
A bit pricey and something I'd seriously consider were it not so
grotesque for my taste:
http://www.amazon.com/F-Dick-Plastic-Knife-Block/dp/B001GKB40I/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1230996295&sr=8-12
This looks practical:
http://www.amazon.com/Kapoosh-Knife-Holder-Black-Small/dp/B000V5Q7WE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1230996379&sr=8-4
This one is definitely Janet!
http://www.amazon.com/5-Piece-Stainless-Steel-Knife-Unique-Holder/dp/B000IXINLC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1230996926&sr=8-6
Here are knife racks professionals use, they don't sell any fercocktah
kitchen-amateur magnetic knife holders:
http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/823_342
sf
wrote:
>Most of the time, I burn myself on something.
That's my world too. Me and ovens... I call it branding. If I don't
have at least on brand on my arms or hands, nobody would recognize me.
sf
>I am reminded... For some strange reason, whenever I try to enter
>this site, I get a screen that is about 1-inch square, with no way
>to drag or enlarge it. :-( Does anyone else have this problem?
>I guess you, nb, could actually see the kitchen.
I had to switch over to IE, but my picture wasn't over 4 or 5 inches
across. I don't know why it didn't go full screen. I didn't see the
knives until nb gave specifics.
The Cook
>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:31:19 -0500, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>>I am reminded... For some strange reason, whenever I try to enter
>>this site, I get a screen that is about 1-inch square, with no way
>>to drag or enlarge it. :-( Does anyone else have this problem?
>>I guess you, nb, could actually see the kitchen.
>
>I had to switch over to IE, but my picture wasn't over 4 or 5 inches
>across. I don't know why it didn't go full screen. I didn't see the
>knives until nb gave specifics.
It requires Flash version 6.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
Sheldon
> "Janet Baraclough" wrote:
>
> > � My kitchen knives live in �their own �shallow drawer. It's lined with
> > a clean �cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> > touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> > � Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> > another knife or a blade. �Far more hygienic than a knife block.
>
> fallen in 30 years that it has been in use. Others are in the rack. I wash
> the knives before putting them in to keep it hygienic.
I have only six regularly used knives in my knife block (I could
easily get by with just four; 8" chefs, 6" utility, 10" bread, 3"
parer, but I have a boning knife and a very thin parer, oh, and a
steel), I see no need to have more readily at hand.... I have dozens
of rarely used specialty knives sheathed and stacked on a shelf in my
pantry... many years ago a butcher friend taught me to make sheathes
from tri-folded corrogated cardboard tied in decorative patterns with
butcher string. I don't need to keep 12" and 14" chef knives out for
everyday use, thye may get used once or twice a year... three carving
sets sit on a shelf in their original boxes, can't remember the last
time those were used, and I still have a set of US Navy issue
butcher's breaking knives, none of which I've used in forty years...
and I have a fetish for paring knives, I must have like fifty, most
never used. I do keep a couple knives strewn in a drawer, do
grapefruit knives count, what about an egg slicer, melon baller,
cheese slicer, probably other cutting thingies I can 't remember...
but I'm talking sharp knives here. I can only use one knife at a
time, anytime it leaves my hand it's in its slot, at the ready... I
don't display duplicate knives, that's just for appearance... when I
see a home kitchen with everything they own out in plain sight that
tells me that they want eveyone to think they can cook, perhaps they
can, perhaps they can't, but it does make me wonder... especially when
they have every piece of cookware imaginable, in triplicate, hanging
from their ceiling and walls... most pieces covered with years worth
of greasy kitchen schmutz and dust... then I don't need to wonder.
John Kane
Icicles don't come in
> stalagmite formations. At least not sharp enough to puncture a hand
> - and go all the way through it.
They don't? It depends on where you live and what the weather's been
like. They are a bit unusual but I've certainly seen them. It'y more
difficult to see why one would trip over an icicle.
John Kane Kingston ON Canada
sf
wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:09:19 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:31:19 -0500, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am reminded... For some strange reason, whenever I try to enter
>>>this site, I get a screen that is about 1-inch square, with no way
>>>to drag or enlarge it. :-( Does anyone else have this problem?
>>>I guess you, nb, could actually see the kitchen.
>>
>>I had to switch over to IE, but my picture wasn't over 4 or 5 inches
>>across. I don't know why it didn't go full screen. I didn't see the
>>knives until nb gave specifics.
>
>It requires Flash version 6.
They also have a direct link to Flash 6.
I still don't know why the picture isn't full screen.
Gloria P
> Gloria P wrote:
>> HawaiianEye wrote:
>>> Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> All those exposed sharp edges are ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS FENG SHUI!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> certainly not worth the disaster they can cause to one's overall
>>> harmony.
>
>
>> If your harmony can be disrupted by a few knife blades,
>> you need more than a knife block in your life.
>>
>> Feng shui may be a fun party topic, but kitchens are Real Life.
>
>
> Can 6,000,000,000 Chinese be wrong?!? Next you're going to tell me that
> I'm NOT getting the $15,000,000 from that pol in Nigeria!
No, but they are driving up your street right now in the sound truck
with that giant check from Publisher's Clearing House, so go comb your
hair and put on a clean shirt for the photos. And try to act surprised.
Only 6 billion? Have they had a pandemic or something? Maybe it was
due to all those knife edges pointing the wrong way.
gloria p
Gloria P
No toy plastic fence? A symbolic popsicle stick will do just as well.
Make sure all the color is washed off first. You don't want to
introduce any disharmony to the display.
gloria p
Dan Abel
<73d205b2-b1e8-4ecf...@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
John Kane <jrkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've seen them also. Sun on the roof, or not enough attic insulation,
and the water is dripping off the roof and down the icicles too fast to
freeze. It then freezes and forms upside down icicles, if the air is
cold enough. They aren't very sharp, but I guess if you tripped and put
a hand out to catch yourself, and landed with all your weight on that
hand, it could penetrate.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
notbob
> I still don't know why the picture isn't full screen.
Cuz it's their ball. They do provide zoom points.
nb
Dan Abel
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> John Kane <jrkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 3, 12:22 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> > Icicles don't come in
> >> stalagmite formations. At least not sharp enough to puncture a hand
> >> - and go all the way through it.
> >
> > They don't?
>
> Gravity makes them grown downwards, not upwards. I've lived in
> plenty of snowy states and the gravity seems pretty universal in all
> of them.
I guess there's no such thing as stalagmites, then. A lot of geologists
are going to be really surprised.
Sheldon
wrote:
> The message
> <a979f8dc-7e44-4384-a825-2f638289c...@i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
> from Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com> contains these words:
>
> > Janet Baraclough wrote:
>
> > > My kitchen knives live in their own shallow drawer.
> > > It's lined with
> > > a clean cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> > > touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> > > Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> > > another knife or a blade. Far more hygienic than a knife block.
> > How is that more hygienic...
>
>
> > �It's no more hygienic than a knife block
> > and probably much less so... you must be assuming those with knife
> > blocks don't wash knives before placing them into the block
>
>
> � �Even when only clean knives go in the block, the slits will
> eventually collect airborne particles of grease and fumes from the air
> in any kitchen. Those particles
> eventually form a breeding ground for bacteria , and you can't clean the
> narrow slits. So, after a year or two, you're storing your cutting
> knives in a bacteria whorehouse.
>
> � �:-)
>
> � �Janet.
Puh-leeze... even a whore knows about feminine hygiene sprays. The
slits go all the way through and are very easy to brush clean by
threading through a peice of cord and spritzing with Lysol, or
Summer's Eve, your choice. However I've never seen anything
accumulate inside the slots, and since the slots aim down anything
will fall right through. Looking into the slots of my knife block
right now all I see is raw clean wood, with a portion of the slot
bottom burnished from the knife backs rubbing for years. I seriously
doubt there is any more bacteria inside those slots than there is on
dishes straight from your cupboard.
Dan Abel
Janet Baraclough <janet.a...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Janet Baraclough wrote:
> > >
> > > � �My kitchen knives live in �their own �shallow drawer.
> > > It's lined with
> > > a clean �cotton tea towel. The knives lie on it in a single layer, not
> > > touching each other, handles towards the opening end, points away.
> > > � �Every knife can be seen at a glance and picked up without touching
> > > another knife or a blade. �Far more hygienic than a knife block.
> Even when only clean knives go in the block, the slits will
> eventually collect airborne particles of grease and fumes from the air
> in any kitchen. Those particles
> eventually form a breeding ground for bacteria , and you can't clean the
> narrow slits. So, after a year or two, you're storing your cutting
> knives in a bacteria whorehouse.
This is like what we have, except it takes up the whole width of a
drawer:
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/fn385/index.cfm
I assume the slits go all the way through, so it would at least be
easier to clean than a block. I think my wife got it to free up counter
space.
Goomba
> Even when only clean knives go in the block, the slits will
> eventually collect airborne particles of grease and fumes from the air
> in any kitchen. Those particles
> eventually form a breeding ground for bacteria , and you can't clean the
> narrow slits. So, after a year or two, you're storing your cutting
> knives in a bacteria whorehouse.
I can't think of ONE instance where I've ever heard such nonsense about
a knife block causing problems. Have you?
Becca
>> turkey fell off the top shelf of my upright freezer and landed on my
>> foot. I never curse, but I would have then, except that my body just
>> froze up tight.
>
> The first rule in the kitchen is when something drops to the floor,
> jump back and get your feet out of the way.
>
> You should have had plenty of time to react when a turkey fell from
> 5-6 feet up. Unless you were trying to save the tile or linoleum.
>
> -sw
It was a fast moving turkey and I had slow moving feet. Before that
happened, a jar of Mayo fell off the shelf and landed on my foot. I am
rough on my feet, aren't I? I have a broken toe on my right foot and I
do not remember how that happened.
Becca
Sheldon
> John Kane <jrkrid...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 12:22�am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> > �Icicles don't come in
> >> stalagmite formations. �At least not sharp enough to puncture a hand
> >> - and go all the way through it.
>
> > They don't?
>
> plenty of snowy states and the gravity seems pretty universal in all
> of them.
Bullshit. According to your gravity theory there would never be any
kind of stalagmites. Water will certainly freeze in both stalagtite
and stalagmite formation... when icicles begin to melt they drip and
form stalagmite formations below, especially when dusk approaches and
temps begin to fall. I see this every winter, often huge formations
on the ground in the shaded north side under my barn eaves where the
sun hits the roof... but you wouldn't know because you live in the
windowless world of your walk-in basement closet, not to mention that
you live where there are never any ice formations, so you're just
blowing steam through your ass, again.
Damsel in dis Dress
>This is like what we have, except it takes up the whole width of a
>drawer:
>
>http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/fn385/index.cfm
>
>I assume the slits go all the way through, so it would at least be
>easier to clean than a block. I think my wife got it to free up counter
>space.
Ooooooooooooh! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I want one! Thanks for sharing,
kiddo!
Carol
--
Change JamesBond to his agent number to reply.
Damsel in dis Dress
wrote:
>Sqwertz wrote:
>> Becca <Becca...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Most of the time, I burn myself on something. A few years ago, a frozen
>>> turkey fell off the top shelf of my upright freezer and landed on my
>>> foot. I never curse, but I would have then, except that my body just
>>> froze up tight.
>>
>> The first rule in the kitchen is when something drops to the floor,
>> jump back and get your feet out of the way.
>>
>> You should have had plenty of time to react when a turkey fell from
>> 5-6 feet up. Unless you were trying to save the tile or linoleum.
>
>It was a fast moving turkey and I had slow moving feet. Before that
>happened, a jar of Mayo fell off the shelf and landed on my foot. I am
>rough on my feet, aren't I? I have a broken toe on my right foot and I
>do not remember how that happened.
Same here! I wonder if we were together when it happened?
Carol, wondering where Rod Serling is when you need him
Sheldon
> �John Kane wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote:
> > �Icicles don't come in
> > > stalagmite formations. �At least not sharp enough to puncture a hand
> > > - and go all the way through it.
>
> > They don't? �It depends on where you live and what the weather's been
> > like. �They are a bit unusual but I've certainly seen them. �It'y more
> > difficult to see why one would trip over an icicle.
>
> I've seen them also. �Sun on the roof, or not enough attic insulation,
> and the water is dripping off the roof and down the icicles too fast to
> freeze. �It then freezes and forms upside down icicles, if the air is
> cold enough. �They aren't very sharp, but I guess if you tripped and put
> a hand out to catch yourself, and landed with all your weight on that
> hand, it could penetrate.
I've seen water freeze in all kinds of configurations and combinations
thereof, when one lives in these parts dealing with ice is a way of
life. Ice formations can be extremely dangerous, icicles can be
sharp or rounded, and can weigh hundred pounds, if one drops off onto
you it doesn't much matter if you're hit by the point or any portion,
from its sheer weight it can kill you dead. And ice forming on the
ground from drips can be rounded or pointed, and often larger than the
ice formation above... folks who hike the woods need to be very
respectful of such formations when trekking amongst rock formations...
a fall can easily impale someone on a six foot ice javelin. When the
corpse is discovered it's usually warm weather and can be a while till
cause of death is figured out. How ice formations form is very
different from mineral formations, how the sun hits or doesn't plays a
big part in how water will freeze and melt.
Dan Abel
Damsel in dis Dress <carol-56...@charter.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:13:24 -0800, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >This is like what we have, except it takes up the whole width of a
> >drawer:
> >
> >http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/fn385/index.cfm
> >
> >I assume the slits go all the way through, so it would at least be
> >easier to clean than a block. I think my wife got it to free up counter
> >space.
>
> Ooooooooooooh! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I want one! Thanks for sharing,
> kiddo!
>
> Carol
Google on "knife rack drawer". I got a whole bunch. I picked this one
because it had the nicest picture.
Damsel in dis Dress
>In article <iojvl4do4l4aj111b...@4ax.com>,
> Damsel in dis Dress <carol-56...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:13:24 -0800, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>> >This is like what we have, except it takes up the whole width of a
>> >drawer:
>> >
>> >http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/fn385/index.cfm
>> >
>> >I assume the slits go all the way through, so it would at least be
>> >easier to clean than a block. I think my wife got it to free up counter
>> >space.
>>
>> Ooooooooooooh! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I want one! Thanks for sharing,
>> kiddo!
>
>Google on "knife rack drawer". I got a whole bunch. I picked this one
>because it had the nicest picture.
You didn't want to disappoint Dimitri? (running and hiding) I say
that with love, Dimitri. I pretty much *had* to say it.
Thanks, Dan. I'll do some googling before I do any spending. I
appreciate just knowing that they exist!
Dave Smith
I have seen upside down icicles. The ice or snow melts, runs and drips,
hits the cold ground and freezes. Then subsequent drips land on top of
the cold ice and freeze.
Dan Abel
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> Damsel in dis Dress <carol-56...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:23:12 -0600, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
> > wrote:
> >>Gravity makes them grown downwards, not upwards. I've lived in
> >>plenty of snowy states and the gravity seems pretty universal in all
> >>of them.
> >
> > Actually, if the icicles are dripping, then landing on very frozen
> > ground, they *can* and do form stalagmites. You have to have perfect
> > conditions for this to occur, but it does happen.
>
> I've seen those and they form more of a pimple than anything sharp
> enough to go straight through your hand.
Maybe it went through crooked?
:-)
(I moved to California in 1972. I don't remember seeing an icicle since
then, and don't want to. I remember seeing them, though. That's my
story, and I'm sticking to it, even if they go right through my hand!)
Dan Abel
Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> Stalagmites are made with minerals over the course of thousands of
> years. Icles are made with water. They're kinda different.
>
> Did you take a snarky pill this morning?
No. Did you?
Jean B.
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:31:19 -0500, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> I am reminded... For some strange reason, whenever I try to enter
>> this site, I get a screen that is about 1-inch square, with no way
>> to drag or enlarge it. :-( Does anyone else have this problem?
>> I guess you, nb, could actually see the kitchen.
>
> I had to switch over to IE, but my picture wasn't over 4 or 5 inches
> across. I don't know why it didn't go full screen. I didn't see the
> knives until nb gave specifics.
>
>
That did the trick. Look at all those drawers!
--
Jean B.
Jean B.
> The message <6s9b10F...@mid.individual.net>
> from "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> contains these words:
>
>> That's great if you have enough drawers, which I don't.
>
> I feel your pain :-) A lady can never have too many drawers.
>
> For anyone making a new kitchen, I strongly recommend that instead of
> under-worktop cupboards, you use drawer units instead.
> (the sort with 2 deep and one shallow drawer). I only wish I'd done that
> to all ours instead of half and half. Stuff like the food processor and
> all those awkward shape
> bits of kit are instantly visible and accessible' they are strong enough
> to store huge stacks of crockery.
>
> Janet
Sigh. If and when I get my next house and kitchen--and IF I can
afford to do make than rudimentary changes, that's a good idea.
--
Jean B.
Sheldon
wrote:
> The message <6s9vs1F4ug2...@mid.individual.net>
> from Goomba <Goomb...@comcast.net> contains these words:
> an example
>
> http://www.lancaster.gov.uk/Documents/EnvHealth/FHI/NeighboursFoodBar...
Home kitchens are very different from commercial... and everyone knows
the UK hasn't a clue regarding sanitation.... if you ever tried to
pull that knives in a drawer on a rag schitck in a commercial kitchen
they fire you for excessive diddling.
HawaiianEye
>
> No toy plastic fence? A symbolic popsicle stick will do just as well.
You are absolutely correct!! Making a little fence with Popsicle sticks
will work fine just as long as you realize that it's a fence.
> Make sure all the color is washed off first.
No! No! No! Do NOT wash off the color!! Just be sure to use the correct
color for the direction of the room!
> You don't want to
> introduce any disharmony to the display.
Absotivly!
Red, Orange or very dark Yellow for the South
Very Light Yellow or Beige for Northeast and Southwest.
White or Gray for West and Northwest
Blue or Black for North
Brown or Green for East and Southeast
See how easy it is?!?
HawaiianEye
>> Can 6,000,000,000 Chinese be wrong?!? Next you're going to tell me
>> that I'm NOT getting the $15,000,000 from that pol in Nigeria!
>
>
>
> No, but they are driving up your street right now in the sound truck
> with that giant check from Publisher's Clearing House, so go comb your
> hair and put on a clean shirt for the photos. And try to act surprised.
I get this feeling that you don't think they are coming... Well, maybe
not.. No Publisher's Clearing House in this country. But I have been
personally assured by the wife of that the Nigerian politician who
passed away I will get the $15,000,000 for helping her transfer funds.
Would she lie?
> Only 6 billion? Have they had a pandemic or something? Maybe it was
> due to all those knife edges pointing the wrong way.
Actually, 6 billion is the figure estimated for world population. China
only gets about 1.5 billion these days according to Professor Ronald
Knapp of the State University of New York (SUNY) at New Paltz. Professor
Knapp is a geographer who specializes on China. Personally, I never
stopped to count them myself. I was too busy buying good luck charms. I
guess they must have worked or that Nigerian lady would never have
contacted me. I think she also contacted Buffy L, but we've been out of
touch for some time now... :o)