I always liked it as a kid, so I tried to think about things that reignited
my interest in cabbage because they were very different. What came to mind
was slivered cabbage stirfried with garlic and sauced with something that
included hoisin sauce.
Stuffed cabbage is really going to lengths, but is just wonderful to eat.
Stir-fry it with nutmeg.
Miche
--
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I can think of a number of ways. Ones that come to mind quickly are
stuffed cabbage rolls, or shredded cabbage mixed with the meat of their
choice, including hot dogs or other sausages.
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That depends on the child. When I was a kid, my mom used to make an old
Polish dish called prackis (sp?), which is cabbage rolls with ground
veal in the center and simmered in tomato sauce. My little sister
wouldn't touch it, but I loved it.
I have four god children (two boys, two girls). We are very close. The
youngest kid just turned six. The oldest is midway into her 15th year.
All four kids have the same parents, yet they have very different tastes
in food. The oldest girl will try anything I ask her to eat, but she
definitely has a narrow range of foods she really enjoys. The six year
old boy will eat the typical things many six year old kids prefer, and
not much else. The 12 year old will eat anything that's not moving. The
ten year old couldn't care less about food, so she will eat pretty much
anything, but only a small portion, then she wants to do something else.
So try making those Polish cabbage rolls with veal in the middle, or
just don't worry about it. I have a long time friend who has a ten year
old son. This kid is by far the most fussy eater I have ever met. He
litterally looks malnourished. You can see his ribs and bones, and he
doesn't care about food. That's the way he's always been. I have known
him since he was born. He literally only eats chicken finger (one at a
meal and that's it), vanilla soft serve ice cream, and spaghetti with no
sauce on it of any kind, and grilled cheese and french fries. That's it.
Even when he does eat, its a very small amount. I used to try to get him
to eat different things, but I gave up. His uncle and I once were
watching him for a day when we realized there was a big sports event on
TV that we really wanted to see and no time to get him back to his
parents when we were on vacation in Disney World so we took him to the
ESPN Zone and we sat him down in the bar area with us. He sat wide eyed
watching the game with us and he hardly said a word. We tried to get him
to eat some of the food we ordered, but all he wanted was french fries
and an ice tea, so that's what he got. He did try one bite of one of our
buffalo chicken wings, but that was it. I was stunned that he behaved so
well during the game. We offered to call his parents to come get him,
but he said he was fine hanging out with us.
I don't have kids, but I do have a lot of other people's children in my
life, so I can tell you that they are all unique. Some kids will eat
cabbage, and some won't ... just like adults. If your kids won't eat
cabbage, then don't feed it to them, but try the prackis, and if they
try it and like it, great; otherwise, oh well.
Simplest is fried cabbage with egg noodles... most kids like noodles.
Saute shredded/chopped cabbage in butter until tender-limp, add cooked
noodles to pan, toss and add s n'p.
>> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something
>> simple to mix with it) to make it more appealing to children,
>> who don't normally much like cabbage? Thanks for advice.
> That depends on the child. When I was a kid, my mom used to
> make an old Polish dish called prackis (sp?), which is cabbage
> rolls with ground veal in the center and simmered in tomato
> sauce. My little sister wouldn't touch it, but I loved it.
I detested cabbage as a child but that is because, in British tradition,
it was cooked to death. Much later, I found that I rather liked it
cooked for a few minutes. I also like shredded cabbage in Cole-Slaw and
as a salad or an accompaniment to Japanese fried cutlets. Gujerati
Sambhara uses pretty well cooked cabbage. Other Indian dishes include
some varieties of Thoren or Poryal (dry curries). Lightly cooked cabbage
is used in Colcannon (Irish) or Rumbledethumps (Scottish). The last
name alone might make it appealing to kids. Mediterranean stuffed
cabbage might also be enjoyed by kids
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
Cole slaw
Tara
http://www.japan-guide.com/r/e100.html (there are tons of other recipes
and examples if you search "okonomiyaki".
Essentially a savory pancake of cabbage, flour and eggs. Super simple to
make and the main ingredient is cabbage. Add whatever else the kids
might like too.
Deef fried spring rolls, or similar?
Andy
>>> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something simple to
>>> mix
>>> with it) to make it more appealing to children, who don't normally much
>>> like
>>> cabbage? Thanks for advice.
> Simplest is fried cabbage with egg noodles... most kids like noodles.
> Saute shredded/chopped cabbage in butter until tender-limp, add cooked
> noodles to pan, toss and add s n'p.
Simple and elegant. That was a nice side dish a neighbor in Sasebo taught
me. It hadnt occured to me until Charlotte came home and mentioned it. The
kids there would travel in little 'flocks' about the apartment building and
normally get fed little bits. With an extremely diverse ethnic mix, there
were all sorts of variations but most of us were real careful to make it
'real food' (not candy and cakes and such).
When Charlotte mentioned it, I wandered over with a head of cabbage and some
other things that looked likely and asked for the recipe.
Here was Serena's version of it:
Cook pasta to al-dente and keep warm at the side.
Melt butter and a little olive oil in frypan. Add shredded carrots (she
just used a standard peeler over the pan), about 1/2 cup, and white onion
(aboit 1/3 cup) and let slightly carmelize until the onions are a light
golden color.
Blanch cabbage leaves (torn to bitesize) until just barely limp in the pasta
water then remove with slotted spoon to frypan. Let melt into butter and
finish off.
At this stage she had 2 variations. 3 really as sometimes she just seved it
this way with nothing more added. Option 1: used caraway seeds. Option 2:
used a bit of a hoisin-like sauce mixed with a little 'rooster sauce' (not
too much, just enough for a mild bite).
This was then poured, complete with all pan juices over the pasta and
lightly mixed. Served whole in a bowl at the table, each would serve
themselves (very asian treatment in dining habits to do this at home).
Close to how you might make it?
BTW, I traded back my recipe that she'd heard of from her kids. Dashi-miso
soup with spinach, tofu, and other bits of things friendly to that flavor.
put lotsa ketchup on it?
your pal,
blake
You're actually nobody's pal. No matter what fake name you've used.
You're only blake "no legs" murphy. Piss ant of rfc.
Andy
>> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something simple to mix
>> with it) to make it more appealing to children, who don't normally much
>> like
>> cabbage? Thanks for advice.
>
> How about okonomiyaki?
>
> http://www.japan-guide.com/r/e100.html (there are tons of other recipes
> and examples if you search "okonomiyaki".
Oh yes! Thanks for a trip down Memory lane! The kids in Sasebo called this
'cabbage pizza'.
Oh, I don't know
Blake's pal
Ed
I'd start with a small amount of shredded cabbage sauteed in butter and
added to something spicy that they like--crisp crumbled breakfast
sausage, maybe?
I'm not an expert--to me most cabbage smells like swamp gas and it's
hard to get past that.
I do enjoy sweet and sour red cabbage, however.
gloria p
> Oh, I don't know
>
> Blake's pal
> Ed
Who cares?
Andy
My mom used to make vegetable soup with cabbage. I loved it. You
can add some ABC shaped pasta for some extra fun.
Tara
Speak for yourself, foul thing.
gloria p
Don't I always???
Sourpuss!
Andy
>Lightly cooked cabbage
>is used in Colcannon (Irish) or Rumbledethumps (Scottish).
Bubble and Squeak was my DD's favorite meal when she was a kid. I
gussied it up with shredded zucchini and cooked it in bacon fat.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
>> Lightly cooked cabbage
>> is used in Colcannon (Irish) or Rumbledethumps (Scottish).
> Bubble and Squeak was my DD's favorite meal when she was a
> kid. I gussied it up with shredded zucchini and cooked it in
> bacon fat.
Another thing I've just thought of that might appeal to kids is Fish
Tacos. The cabbage is shredded and uncooked, I'll admit.
Google Cedric Adams' Casserole
It's tasty. And very simple to make!
--
-Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ
http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check
it out. And check this, too: <http://www.kare11.com/news/
newsatfour/newsatfour_article.aspx?storyid=823232&catid=323>
>> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something
>> simple to mix with it) to make it more appealing to children,
>> who don't normally much like cabbage? Thanks for advice.
>>
> My mom used to make vegetable soup with cabbage. I loved it.
> You can add some ABC shaped pasta for some extra fun.
Cabbage can be used as one ingredient for Japanese miso soup tho' that
doesn't use a lot.
>
> "Andy" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:Xns9C85785DBF6D8CotD@
216.196.97.131...
>> blake murphy said...
>>> put lotsa ketchup on it?
>>>
>>> your pal,
>>> blake
>>
>>
>> You're actually nobody's pal. No matter what fake name you've used.
>>
>> You're only blake "no legs" murphy. Piss ant of rfc.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Oh, I don't know
>
> Blake's pal
> Ed
And mine...
--
Wayne Boatwright
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Those who forget the pasta are condemned to reheat it. Author Unknown
> Omelet <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "john royce" <blue...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something simple to mix
> >> with it) to make it more appealing to children, who don't normally much
> >> like
> >> cabbage? Thanks for advice.
> >
> >I can think of a number of ways. Ones that come to mind quickly are
> >stuffed cabbage rolls, or shredded cabbage mixed with the meat of their
> >choice, including hot dogs or other sausages.
>
>
> Simplest is fried cabbage with egg noodles... most kids like noodles.
Very true. And cheese.
>
> Saute shredded/chopped cabbage in butter until tender-limp, add cooked
> noodles to pan, toss and add s n'p.
So, keep it simple?
I hate Cole Slaw. Always have, still do.
Mom loved it.
<sigh>
Yes, he is foul, and has no face or is too ashamed to show it.
Obviously you if you are commenting and responding to him. People I
don't like I skip their posts and ignore.
maxine in ri
>On Sun 13 Sep 2009 10:01:15a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>> blake murphy said...
>>>> your pal,
>>>> blake
>> Blake's pal
>> Ed
>
>And mine...
And mine too. I met Blake when I was on the east coast for a
contract. A nicer man, you will never meet.
Christine
--
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com
Shred it, and stir fry with pork or chicken (with some ginger type
blend).
Spread warm tortillas with some hoison sauce, place stir fry in top &
roll up, like mu shoo pork.
My kids LOVE that!
Kris
That sounds good!!! I have a pork and cabbage (and ginger) stir fry
that I have been making for years and years...since I got my first wok
way back in the 70s.
I might try your adaptation!
Christine, who is taking a break from studying for her NRP re
certification.
--
http://nightstirrings.blogspot.com
My kids LOVE that!
--------------------------------------
Chinese Burritos! I might like that too! Very inventive.
George L
Here, I found the marinade I use for the meat (pork or chicken work in
this, cut into small strips):
Marinade:
2 tablespoons soy sauce - reduced sodium is fine
2 tablespoons water
1 tablespoon sesame oil - Olive oil works fine too
3 cloves garlic, crushed
2 teaspoons freshly grated ginger
2 teaspoons granulated sugar
When you stir-fry the meat, add some of the marinade & a good handful
of sliced green onions. Add a little cornstarch mixed in water if you
want it a little saucier.
This comes together quickly and the kids love to assemble as much as
eat these.
If you do make them, let me know what you think.
Kris
Hi John.
I haven't checked all the responses, but my suggestion is to get them
involved with the cooking process. I know many a kid that normally
disliked a specific vegetable, or other item, that was on their plate
(tuna for example), that when brought to the kitchen and participated in
making the the meal, they'd gobble it down.
Bob
evidently you care enough to make idiotic posts about it.
blake
what, when he is in the middle of a contest with sheldon for 'most
repulsive poster'?
your pal,
blake
Who cares about blake "no legs" murphy is what I meant. Not many!
ah, me public. thanks, ed, wayne and christine. believe me, i take andy's
remarks for what they are worth, usually only a snicker or two.
your pal,
blake
Andy, at the risk of alienating you... You make yourself look
extremely bad when you go off on such tangents. For your own
sake, please stop.
--
Jean B.
You think you're special with only three teeny weenie fans!
Show me 100 and I'll shut up!
Asshole!!!
Andy
Ms. Perfect...
Sorry! I will not lay down and die on your say so!
FUCK YOU.
Andy
Oh my. You really are in a rotten mood. Well, I have said my
piece, so I am done.
--
Jean B.
You haven't seen me in a rotten mood!
>
>ah, me public. thanks, ed, wayne and christine. believe me, i take andy's
>remarks for what they are worth, usually only a snicker or two.
>
>
Doncha mean a Snacker or two... don't forget to download the
Snackabulary Translator: http://www.snickers.com/default.htm
Snickers.com is a nicely done web site, I can smell it... kudos to the
Webmaster.
Andy doesn't bother me. I don't read this group for jokes, and besides,
Andy and I don't have compatible senses of humor. So I didn't enjoy
reading his COTD (Chuckle of the Day) and didn't. I don't like
breakfast, and eat it every day only so I won't mess up my blood sugar
(I'm on insulin). I view breakfast as medicine, and have to force it
down. So, I killfiled Andy long ago. Nothing personal, we just aren't
interested in the same things. So the only time he bothers me is when
he gets quoted a lot.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:12:08 +0100, john royce wrote:
>
>> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something simple
>> to mix with it) to make it more appealing to children, who don't
>> normally much like cabbage? Thanks for advice.
>
> put lotsa ketchup on it?
Syrup of ipecac, so's the lil' pukes will *puke*...
;-P
--
Best
Greg
Do we now have a "real" Andy and a "fake" Andy, or...???
--
Best
Greg
> Is there a good way to cook cabbage ( and/or with something simple to mix
> with it) to make it more appealing to children, who don't normally much like
> cabbage? Thanks for advice.
How about pasta with cabbage, a simple Campanian dish? Here is a good
recipe, slightly adapted for the American audience, from _Naples at
Table_ by Arthur Schwartz. The adaptation in question is substituting
"Italian sweet sausage", whatever that is, for the Campanian fresh pork
salsiccia seasoned with just salt, pepper and sometimes fennel seed.
Ideally, it is home-made and hand-diced, not ground. If you can get
something like that, or make it yourself, the dish would be improved, I
imagine.
Victor
Spaghetti o maccheroni con verza
Spaghetti or macaroni with cabbage
Serves 5 or 6
3 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
2 cloves garlic, lightly smashed
1/2 pound sweet Italian sausage, removed from its casing
1/2 medium head green or Savoy cabbage (about 1 pound), cored and very
thinly sliced
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1/2 cup water
1 pound spaghetti or macaroni
Grated Parmigiano-Reggiano or pecorino, or a combination
1. In a 2- to 3-quart saucepan or casserole, over medium-low heat,
combine the oil and the garlic. Cook the garlic, pressing it into the
oil a couple of time to release its flavour, until it barely begins to
colour on both sides. Remove the garlic.
2. Add the sausage, raise the heat slightly, and, with the edge of a
wooden spoon, break up the meat into small pieces. This gets easier as
the meat cooks. Continue to cook and break up the meat until it begins
to brown, in 3 or 4 minutes.
3. Add the cabbage and mix well. Cook, uncovered, about 3 minutes,
mixing occasionally. The cabbage should be wilted. (It will probably
not be necessary to add salt or pepper because the sausage is well
seasoned.)
4. Dissolve the tomato paste in the water and add it to the cabbage.
Mix well, cover and cook gently for 15 minutes, until the cabbage is
tender.
5. Cook the spaghetti until al dente in plenty of boiling, salted
water.
6. Toss the pasta with the sauce and serve immediately. Pass the
grated cheese.
I feel much the same way, Dan. I also kilfiled him long ago, but he seems
to be often quoted. I really don't like when he snipes at people, and the
way he addresses and talks about Blake is disgraceful.
--
Wayne Boatwright
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The belly rules the mind. Spanish Proverb
Just so you know, Lil' Wayne, you snipe at others here incessantly, and
blake is *perfectly* capable of handling blAndy hisself...and *no* one needs
"defending" from the SMARMY likes of you, ya Big Squished Pink QUEER
Cupcake...
<chortle>
--
Best
Gregory Morrow
Sounds good! Do you have to remove the garlic? I might like it even
more that way, I should think. Or would it brown too much & get
bitter?
Kris
You might be right, but I think that he is beyond help.
> On Sep 14, 5:15�pm, azaze...@koroviev.de (Victor Sack) wrote:
> >
> > Here is a good
> > recipe, slightly adapted for the American audience, from _Naples at
> > Table_ by Arthur Schwartz.
> >
> > � � � � Spaghetti o maccheroni con verza
> > � � � �Spaghetti or macaroni with cabbage
[huge snippage]
> > 1. �In a 2- to 3-quart saucepan or casserole, over medium-low heat,
> > combine the oil and the garlic. �Cook the garlic, pressing it into the
> > oil a couple of time to release its flavour, until it barely begins to
> > colour on both sides. �Remove the garlic.
[huge snippage]
> Sounds good! Do you have to remove the garlic? I might like it even
> more that way, I should think. Or would it brown too much & get
> bitter?
I do not think it would get bitter in this case and, if cooking just for
myself, I might very well consider not removing it, as I love garlic,
even in excessive quantities sometimes, but in this case, it is supposed
to be suitable for children, so I do not know... As a child, I loved
garlic just as much as I do now...
Victor
And I'm perfectly capable of handling your sheer idiocy, Greg. Your barbs
and constant morphing are totally laughable and don't bother me in the
least.
--
Wayne Boatwright
************************************************************************
It's so beautifully arranged on the plate you know someone's
fingers have been all over it. Julia Child
better no legs than no brain.
blake
a dickhead by any other name...
blake
yeah, don't forget all the people speculating whether i'm mentally ill or
merely off my meds.
blake
why one gay man thinks calling another a queer is funny i will never
understand.
blake
*so* charming.
blake
Probably for the same reason(s) one black man calls another nigga.
Yup, I look for character *first* in a person, one's sexuality or race or
gender or whatever means naught to me. Natcherly Lil' Wayne is supremely
lacking in the "character department", therefore his other personal traits
are fair game to me. The fact that he's a silly nattering fudgepacker just
makes bashing him even *more* fun...
--
Best
Greg
I made it plural because intention depends on context.
Promise to quit posting here, and I'll give you more than 100 Blake Fans.
>
> Asshole!!!
>
> Andy
STFU and die
It often means that the name caller is full of self-hatred.
--
Wayne Boatwright
************************************************************************
Give me books, French wine, fruit, fine weather and a little music
played out of doors by somebody I do not know. John Keats
>It's a girl thing.
I thought it must be new a gay thing, but we must be witnessing a
bitch fight. Why Greg has it in for Wayne is beyond me. He must be
shooting Chi-town ghetto into his veins.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:28:08 -0400, "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>It's a girl thing.
>
> I thought it must be new a gay thing, but we must be witnessing a
> bitch fight. Why Greg has it in for Wayne is beyond me. He must be
> shooting Chi-town ghetto into his veins.
Greg's behavior is often symptomatic of a gay person's self-loathing for
their own sexual preference. I am not diagnosing Greg, but I do know this
to be a fact.
Greg has had it in for me for a very long time, and I have absolutely no
idea why. I don't recall ever initiating anything negative toward him
before or at the time this behavior began.
I try my best to ignore it because it really doesn't affect me. I just
consider the source. Occasionally I will reply with a retort, but not
often.
--
Wayne Boatwright
************************************************************************
A gourmet who thinks of calories is like a tart who looks at her
watch. James Beard
> On Tue 15 Sep 2009 09:21:52p, sf told us...
>
>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:28:08 -0400, "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It's a girl thing.
>>
>> I thought it must be new a gay thing, but we must be witnessing a
>> bitch fight. Why Greg has it in for Wayne is beyond me. He must be
>> shooting Chi-town ghetto into his veins.
>
> Greg's behavior is often symptomatic of a gay person's self-loathing
> for their own sexual preference. I am not diagnosing Greg, but I do
> know this to be a fact.
>
> Greg has had it in for me for a very long time, and I have absolutely
> no idea why. I don't recall ever initiating anything negative toward
> him before or at the time this behavior began.
>
> I try my best to ignore it because it really doesn't affect me. I
> just consider the source. Occasionally I will reply with a retort,
> but not often.
>
perhaps he is jealous of your acceptance of who you are. Accepting who you are does give one
some peace in life.
Or maybe it's the Jimmy likes me! How do you know? He threw a rock at me syndrome. As applies
to 8 year olds.
--
Is that your nose, or are you eatting a banana? -Jimmy Durante
It could certainly be either, Alan. Good observations.
--
Wayne Boatwright
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A nickel will get you on the subway, but garlic will get you a
seat. Old New York Proverb
Miss fucking Sunshine here can't stand either of them. lol
I don't think liking everyone is a requirement to participate in rfc,
Sunshine.
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:57:48 -0400, "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:rjp0b55kj0qnefkde...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:28:08 -0400, "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's a girl thing.
>>>
>>> I thought it must be new a gay thing, but we must be witnessing a
>>> bitch fight. Why Greg has it in for Wayne is beyond me. He must be
>>> shooting Chi-town ghetto into his veins.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Miss fucking Sunshine here can't stand either of them. lol
>>
> I don't think liking everyone is a requirement to participate in rfc,
> Sunshine.
>
If it were, far fewer people would be here. :-)
--
Wayne Boatwright
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Eat little, sleep sound. Iranian Proverb
what do his alleged character flaws have to do with him being 'queer'? it
just makes you sound like a giggly middle-schooler.
and 'fudge-packer'? really? does this mean you confine yourself to
cock-sucking?
blake
morrow doesn't have the brains to be a girl.
your pal,
blake
> On Tue 15 Sep 2009 09:21:52p, sf told us...
>
>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:28:08 -0400, "cybercat" <cyber...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>It's a girl thing.
>>
>> I thought it must be new a gay thing, but we must be witnessing a
>> bitch fight. Why Greg has it in for Wayne is beyond me. He must be
>> shooting Chi-town ghetto into his veins.
>
> Greg's behavior is often symptomatic of a gay person's self-loathing for
> their own sexual preference. I am not diagnosing Greg, but I do know this
> to be a fact.
>
well, he does most often sound like a republican, and self-loathing may be
required for log cabin types. either that, or over-identification with ol'
massa.
your pal,
blake
now wait just a minute - i can barely meet the payroll as it is.
your pal,
blake