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lisa matthews

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Jul 10, 2001, 11:13:19 AM7/10/01
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First let me say that although I'm probably going to get lots of flames for
posting at all, I feel that someone should say something to EVERYONE.

1. A newsgroup is a meeting place for people that have similar interests to
get together and TALK about those interests and ANYTHING ELSE that they feel
like talking about.
2. If you don't like someone or don't like their posts, then filter out
their posts or just ignore them.
3. If OT's bother you, again, filter or don't read. No one is twisting your
arm.
4. People who have problems, any problems like to talk to other people about
them. It's natural to talk about something that bothers you. It is a way
of coping and learning from others who may share the same experiences.
It is not a bad thing. Again, if you don't want to share in these
conversations/posts...don't read them.

There is no reason for all of the sniping and meanness that goes on around
here. All it does is make people afraid to post ANYTHING at all. There are
so many sweet, helpful people out there that would probably love to take a
more active role in this group that stay silent because all of ugliness.

Thanks for reading,
Lisa M


Mary M. Riedel

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Jul 10, 2001, 11:46:15 AM7/10/01
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Lisa, I agree completely.


Dianne Lewandowski

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Jul 10, 2001, 11:58:06 AM7/10/01
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lisa matthews wrote:
>
> 1. A newsgroup is a meeting place for people that have similar > interests to get together and TALK about those interests and ANYTHING > ELSE that they feel like talking about.

Not true. Our charter is set up to discuss needlework. If you want to
discuss child rearing, you find a newsgroup that focuses on child
rearing.

That being said - we at RCTN, as a *general* concensus over time,
graciously allow off-topic posts - providing they stay civil. They're
easy enough to skip. I often contribute to off-topic discussions. But
I don't mind being reminded that things have gone too far. These are
"reminders", generally. We all need them. Even as mature adults, we
sometimes forget ourselves. Gentle reminders help us stay on track; we
refocus our mission.

[huge snip]


> There is no reason for all of the sniping and meanness that goes on around
> here.

Gee - unless my newsreader is really off, I haven't seen much - if any -
of that in the last couple days <big grin>.


> All it does is make people afraid to post ANYTHING at all. There are
> so many sweet, helpful people out there that would probably love to
> take a more active role in this group that stay silent because all of > ugliness.

> Thanks for reading,
> Lisa M

There are many reasons people don't post. Keeping things ON TOPIC helps
to include more lurkers in the long run.

What are you working on?

Dianne

JennyWren

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Jul 10, 2001, 12:02:47 PM7/10/01
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It is posts like this that keep things stirred up. It has been proven time and
again that chastising the "offenders" accomplishes nothing but starting another
fight. Your timing is poor, too. Things have died down after the spats last
week and the week before. This NG goes through these on a regular basis. If
you see one starting, ignore it, don't post to it and feed the fire. If they
bother or upset you, don't read them.

As for defending anyone who seems to be on the receiving end of bullying and
abuse--the people involved tend to be our hardier members who are completely
capable of defending themselves. They even have the wisdom to drop the subject,
but unfortunately other chime and and can't stop.

Let's just move on.

The Wren

Laura Stabler

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Jul 10, 2001, 1:18:32 PM7/10/01
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In article <jYE27.56923$WT.11...@typhoon.austin.rr.com>,
rhian...@HOT.rr.com says...

> 3. If OT's bother you, again, filter or don't read. No one is twisting your
> arm.

I do. However, you didn't mark this thread OT, so it didn't get
filtered. If you're going to chastise people, at least follow the rules
yourself.

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zphysics

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Jul 10, 2001, 4:17:47 PM7/10/01
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Ah, but that would be so boring :-) :-) :-)

/z.

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Amy B.

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Jul 10, 2001, 4:31:19 PM7/10/01
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:01:23 GMT, victoria <ani...@animaux.net0>
wrote:

>I am sorry, but I always type "on" instead of "no." Even though I proof all my
>text, I never see it. I have a bit of dyslexia. Sorry...

I just thought perhaps it was a small Freudian slip. <duck>

Amy

Claudia Brant

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Jul 10, 2001, 6:47:41 PM7/10/01
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Gee, and we wonder why countries can't get along????

Claudia
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Amy B.

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Jul 10, 2001, 8:16:50 PM7/10/01
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:42:45 GMT, victoria <ani...@animaux.net0>
wrote:

>>I just thought perhaps it was a small Freudian slip. <duck>

>I don't even "get" it? On instead of no a Freudian slip...please splain?

Oh, I just meant you said "I have on desire to flame you," instead of
"I have no desire to flame you." I'm sure any Freud-worshipper worth
his salt would jump to tell you that what you meant was that you *did*
want to flame her - "one desire" or "an desire."

Amy
who just got finished reading a book about how badly the whole
Freud/psychoanalysis way of thinking treated the *truly* mentally ill
and is finding it affects her whole viewpoint today. :-)

NormaBM

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Jul 10, 2001, 8:29:00 PM7/10/01
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Victoria,
I hadn't even noticed. Of course, I often type yuo for you so I guess I
wouldn't. I think there is a loose connection between my brain & my fingers.
LOL
Happy Stitching
Norma

Watabod

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Jul 10, 2001, 8:42:38 PM7/10/01
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> It's natural to talk about something

Do all of you like to sit around and chit chat with friends while stitching --
even if you are the only stitcher in the group? Do you think stitching while
talking makes you seem uninterested?

Donna
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those who can count and those who can't.
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Jaenne Meiers

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Jul 11, 2001, 1:02:13 AM7/11/01
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We are all well aware of the purpose and design of this newsgroup. It is about
needlework. But it is also about so much more. This group is now a community.
There are people here from around the world who feel they have made friends
here. In many of the cases, this forum is the only contact they have with
people who they feel closer to. I know people here that talk on this group as
casually as chatting with a friend over a cup of tea. I think that is a
wonderful thing and proves this newsgroup has grown beyond the cold impersonal
postings that earmark so many other newsgroup. Everyone here is great about
putting what they are talking about in the subject line. I waste mere seconds
avoiding the conversations that have no value to me.
Everyone! Those who want to be chatty, be chatty. Others who aren't, just don't
read the posting. Enough said.
>Subject: Re: Bickering in this group
>From: Dianne Lewandowski dia...@heritageshoppe.com
>Date: 7/10/01 8:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B4B260E...@heritageshoppe.com>

>
>lisa matthews wrote:
>>
>> 1. A newsgroup is a meeting place for people that have similar > interests
>to get together and TALK about those interests and ANYTHING > ELSE that they
>feel like talking about.
>
>Not true. Our charter is set up to discuss needlework. If you want to
>discuss child rearing, you find a newsgroup that focuses on child
>rearing.
>
>That being said - we at RCTN, as a *general* concensus over time,
>graciously allow off-topic posts - providing they stay civil. They're
>easy enough to skip. I often contribute to off-topic discussions. But
>I don't mind being reminded that things have gone too far. These are
>"reminders", generally. We all need them. Even as mature adults, we
>sometimes forget ourselves. Gentle reminders help us stay on track; we
>refocus our mission.
>
>[huge snip]
>
>
>> There is no reason for all of the sniping and meanness that goes on around
>> here.
>
>Gee - unless my newsreader is really off, I haven't seen much - if any -
>of that in the last couple days .

>
>
>> All it does is make people afraid to post ANYTHING at all. There are
>> so many sweet, helpful people out there that would probably love to
>> take a more active role in this group that stay silent because all of >
>ugliness.
>
>> Thanks for reading,
>> Lisa M
>
>There are many reasons people don't post. Keeping things ON TOPIC helps
>to include more lurkers in the long run.
>
>What are you working on?
>
>Dianne
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Lei

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Jul 11, 2001, 4:18:49 AM7/11/01
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I like to stitch while I chit chat, but I think my non-stitching
friends don't like it when I do that. They can't understand that it's
possible for me to listen and talk at the same time. However, there
have been times when I've mis-counted because I was talking/listening
too much and while I'm correcting the mistake, I'm not able to pay
much attention. So, in general, stitching and truly having a
heart-to-heart is difficult for me. My stitching friends and I like
to stitch, watch TV together, and make comments occasionally. Just
stitching together in the same room is enjoyable. :)

Lei

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Seanette Blaylock

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Jul 11, 2001, 5:39:16 AM7/11/01
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nor...@aol.com (NormaBM) had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Bickering in this group:

>I hadn't even noticed. Of course, I often type yuo for you so I guess I
>wouldn't. I think there is a loose connection between my brain & my fingers.
>LOL

There are some typos I'm pretty consistent on [but I'm a bit picky
about what I let go out, so I can touch-type backspace as well as I
can any letter key (sheesh, nearly typed backstitch for backspace
(giggle))]. The really weird part is that when I'm writing something
by hand and hit a word I tend to mistype.

I will, with a pen, duplicate my usual typo and have to correct it.
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Adams, Erma Bombeck, Jeff Foxworthy/CHOCOLATE! :-)

Seanette Blaylock

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Jul 11, 2001, 5:50:38 AM7/11/01
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wat...@aol.com (Watabod) had some very interesting things to say
about Talking while stitching -- do you like to chi chat :) (was
Bickering):

>> It's natural to talk about something
>Do all of you like to sit around and chit chat with friends while stitching --
>even if you are the only stitcher in the group? Do you think stitching while
>talking makes you seem uninterested?

My friends tend to understand that I want something to do with my
hands while chatting. I don't usually do anything that requires
serious concentration while talking, and most of the people who know
me know that I multi-task just fine. In fact, in some cases, I can
keep better track of the conversation [while crocheting or whatever]
than other parties who aren't multi-tasking do. :-)

Kim Brown

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Jul 11, 2001, 8:25:39 AM7/11/01
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Seanette Blaylock wrote:

> There are some typos I'm pretty consistent on [but I'm a bit picky
> about what I let go out, so I can touch-type backspace as well as I
> can any letter key (sheesh, nearly typed backstitch for backspace
> (giggle))]. The really weird part is that when I'm writing something
> by hand and hit a word I tend to mistype.
>
> I will, with a pen, duplicate my usual typo and have to correct it.
> --
> Seanette Blaylock


Now, this has got me wondering how many do as I do: 'punish' themselves
for making a typo!

I learnt to type via Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing (couldn't recommend it
highly enough!) and I went from being a fairly efficient three-finger
typist to being a wobblingly efficient touch typist. The *freedom* of
being able to type without looking changed my life!

The only thing is, I have this awful internal rule: 'you make a silly
typo, you backspace and correct it, even if it's a sentence back'! How
silly is that? Is my Asperger's showing?

Originally, the idea was to blot out all typos by aversion therapy. It
didn't work. I still do the typos and I still backspace stupidly to
punish myself for making them! Aaaarrrrggghhh!

Anyway, my most frequent typo is 'teh' for 'the'.

--
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Amy B.

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Jul 11, 2001, 8:35:00 AM7/11/01
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:25:39 +1000, Kim Brown
<kawb...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:

>Anyway, my most frequent typo is 'teh' for 'the'.

I seem to always type "amyway" instead of "anyway", for obvious
reasons. Also always have problems with world - it wants to be work
every time.

And don't think it's the Asperger's coming out - I definitely don't
have it, but the print on the backspace key on my computer is worn
off. :-)

Amy

Seanette Blaylock

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Jul 11, 2001, 8:35:34 AM7/11/01
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Kim Brown <kawb...@ozemail.com.au> had some very interesting things

to say about Re: Bickering in this group:

>The only thing is, I have this awful internal rule: 'you make a silly


>typo, you backspace and correct it, even if it's a sentence back'! How
>silly is that? Is my Asperger's showing?

Don't know, since I don't know much about Asperger's. :-)

I do that, too. Spot a typo, *must* go back and fix it [I don't always
backspace that far, might just click to the spot and fix it]. I just
hate to have something go out with a misspelling or typo that makes me
look of questionable literacy [I can make myself look stupid enough
without such glaring errors ;-)].

Drisana

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Jul 11, 2001, 9:30:49 AM7/11/01
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I can do lots of stuff while I stitch including watching movies and chit
chatting. My friends and family don't seem to mind (though I've never
asked) and I think I hold up my end of the conversation well enough. I
think the part that might bother some people is the lack of eye contact you
would normally have.

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Pat Porter

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Jul 11, 2001, 9:38:39 AM7/11/01
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LOL! Ruby - you`d better have a chat with Sheena over your coffee - you`d be
a great GOW member! The first prerequisite of course, is a wicked sense of
humour (even evil at times, it has to be said!).

Pat P.


Ruby wrote

> I enjoy a healthy discussion but don't like to be preached at. Who
> died and made you God of the newsgroup.
> And yes I have had my coffee this morning.
> Ruby
> "Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most"


Bess

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Jul 11, 2001, 10:09:48 AM7/11/01
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lisa matthews wrote:

> There are
> so many sweet, helpful people out there that would probably love to take a
> more active role in this group that stay silent because all of ugliness.

Good points. I've found this so much nicer to read once I filtered out OT and
some of the stitchers whose energy didn't mesh with mine. I'm not saying they
didn't have good things to say, they just said it in a way I personally didn't
want to hear it.

Best Stitches,
Bess

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Bess

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Jul 11, 2001, 10:15:12 AM7/11/01
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Watabod wrote:

> Do you think stitching while talking makes you seem uninterested?

My professors in college thought so. :)

s.e.l

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Jul 11, 2001, 11:35:04 AM7/11/01
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> > Do you think stitching while talking makes you seem uninterested?
>
> My professors in college thought so. :)

LOL !

I had the most boring night class last year - the professor wrote everything
on the board Incredible Slowly - and I'm a fast writer. And to make matters
worse he even repeated everything he wrote about 4 times ! Needless to say
I spent oodles of time playing tic-tac-toe with myself in the margins. I
often thought it would be wonderful to take my stitching so that I could get
something accomplished - and stay awake until 11 p.m. for my 4.5 hour
classes. But since the class only had 4 of us in it, I figured it would be
a bit too obvious :)

Shannon
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K Polikoff

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Jul 11, 2001, 2:05:15 PM7/11/01
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I don't mind in the least when V stitches and I am there. Heck, I have even
brought my own stitching over and sat in her chair - I can't really remember
WHY she wasn't stitching at the moment. I hope that it doesn't appear that
I am not interested when I stitch. The exact opposite is true. I do
partake of the conversation, but when I am counting or something I do miss
parts of the conversation AND I usually stop stitching when I talk and start
again when I am finished.

I did have someone comment at me stitching during a regular meeting I
attend. I was shocked that someone would mention it. I thought about it
and still can't find out what is wrong. It is not a meeting where I am
expected to speak or take notes. It is a meeting where I find that if I am
stitching I am much less fidgetty and can make the whole meeting without
talking to the person next to me (interrupting THEIR listening). But, now
that I think about what Watabod wrote, perhaps he took it as disinterested.
Of course, I am seldom interested in what this man has to say (as it doesn't
match my values or goals, etc of the purpose of the meeting), so it is
irrelavant to me. It is more a matter of 'take what you need and leave the
rest'. If you say something that 'I need' then I will hear it better if I
am less occupied about what she is saying to the person next to her, what he
is wearing, how hot the room is, how bad the coffee is, etc. Just me, my
stitching and the speaker and the message will be heard.

That's my .02 worth.

Kristal
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> On 11 Jul 2001 00:42:38 GMT, wat...@aol.com (Watabod) wrote:
>
> >> It's natural to talk about something
> >
> >Do all of you like to sit around and chit chat with friends while
stitching --
> >even if you are the only stitcher in the group? Do you think stitching
while
> >talking makes you seem uninterested?
> >
> >Donna
>

> Well, to be honest, I really can't talk and stitch. I have to pay
attention to
> what I'm doing because if I don't, I frog and frog and frog...and I don't
like
> to frog and frog...!
>
> I suppose if Kristal came over, and I sat and stitched while she didn't,
it
> would torture her because she'd realize she wasn't home stitching
also...but I
> don't sit and stitch when I have company. I would think to THEM, it would
seem
> that I was disinterested...and to be honest, I probably would be
disinterested
> if I was stitching!
>
> Double edge sword type thing.
>
> V
>
>
> http://www.freetibet.org


Lee

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Jul 11, 2001, 4:15:45 PM7/11/01
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I truly agree - Nonstitching friends are a little put off by it. However,
if a bunch of us are talking while waiting for our kids (soccer practice,
art classes,etc) or something like that, I'll bring out my stitching. But,
if it's truly a "visit" with someone - never.

On the other hand, stitching/sewing friends visit with a two fold purpose:
work AND talk, so no problem there! And those are great visits!

Lee

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> I like to stitch while I chit chat, but I think my non-stitching
> friends don't like it when I do that.

<snip>

Sheena Mackenzie

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Jul 11, 2001, 4:25:27 PM7/11/01
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She has the prerequisites, all but one, she is TOO YOUNG. She must go and join
the other training GOW's - we'll definitely let her in when he turn comes
though. Sheena

Gill Murray

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Jul 11, 2001, 4:37:25 PM7/11/01
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To be a GOW takes YEARS of training !! I am sure there would have to be a
minimum age, and you are so right about the devilish sense of humor!!

Gillian
Florida ( 65 and with sometimes a fiendish sense of humor!! Must be the Brit
in me!)

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^Linda^

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Jul 11, 2001, 4:45:47 PM7/11/01
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I don't know, you sounded pretty nice on the phone. You couldn't possibly
be a GOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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NormaBM

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Jul 11, 2001, 8:45:10 PM7/11/01
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Gee, doesn't everyone? Why is it so reassuring that we all have the same or
similar problems? Guess we hate to be alone.
Happy Stitching
Norma

NormaBM

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Jul 11, 2001, 8:49:15 PM7/11/01
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>Do all of you like to sit around and chit chat with friends while stitching

I had to think about that one. Realized I don't have that many friends who
don't stitch. If they didn't, I don't think I would stitch because IMHO, that
would be rude to a guest in my home. No Flames, I said IMHO.
Happy Stitching
Norma

Gill Murray

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Jul 11, 2001, 9:21:18 PM7/11/01
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Sweetie,

A true GOW is a very hard person to pin down!! We are all (to be honest)
really nice, but the cantankerous side is a major factor!! Actually, I
really enjoyed talking to you, and was up your way last weekend. Hoards of
little kids, sticky hands, runny noses........being a Grandma is great!!!
You just carefully turn them back to their owners when they get too
disgusting! On the funny side you should have seen my DH building the
playhouse for grandkid number7, with me( current wife) holding things, and
the ex giving him instructions on how to do it!! Hilarious!!

Gillian

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Linda D.

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Jul 11, 2001, 9:36:57 PM7/11/01
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On 11 Jul 2001 00:42:38 GMT, wat...@aol.com (Watabod) wrote:

>> It's natural to talk about something
>
>Do all of you like to sit around and chit chat with friends while stitching --
>even if you are the only stitcher in the group? Do you think stitching while
>talking makes you seem uninterested?
>
>Donna

I have a friend who comes over occasionaly and we both stitch
and talk. When I have other friends over I don't stitch while we
visit and yes, if I were to stitch and they didn't IMHO it would
appear that I was disinterested.

take care, Linda :)
Vancouver Island, bc.ca :) (remove 'nospam' to reply)

^Linda^

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Jul 11, 2001, 9:59:29 PM7/11/01
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ROFL I can only just imagine!!!! My parents have my daughter right now
and have had her for the last 4 weeks. She's been loving life up there and
they've enjoyed having her tremendously. My mom loves being a grandma!!!
Of course, I have the only granddaughter in the family and my sister has the
two grandsons. But, the youngest grandson is 15 while mine is only 8. LOL
Think she's getting spoiled?? It came down to a choice of letting her stay
with them for the summer and suffering without her around here, or, keeping
her here and having to live with putting her in daycare for the whole
summer. No choice, really!!!! But, three weeks from today, I get her
back!!!!! HOORAY!!!!!!!!!! By the time she graduates school, in nine
years, I'll probably be in the GOW stage ROFL Right now, I'm not quite
there yet!!! LOL
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Deborah Pesa

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Jul 11, 2001, 10:55:31 PM7/11/01
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Trish,
I do the same thing and I also, usually mistype the same word. I wonder
if there is a connection?
The terminal I work on at work doesn't have a real word processor inside.
Backspacing doesn't work, neither does inserting, you have to go and type
over everything from the point you made the mistake. Drives me crazy. I'm
hoping when they set us up with PCs instead of dummy terminals they might be
able to fix this...probably not<G>

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Deborah Pesa dp...@bestweb.net
Queens, NYC AIM: DebbieJRT
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Haven/1646/

Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow
I'll probably still be a dog. There's just so little hope of
advancement. -- Snoopy
"Kim Brown" <kawb...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Well, When Freud has his slip on , he is surely saying No
[ grin] :>:>:> mirjam

Pat Porter

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Jul 12, 2001, 8:08:47 AM7/12/01
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`Course she`s not too young! I`ve had 30 year olds apply - just what we
need! Catch `em young! It`s a state of mind rather than actual age!

As for sense of humour, Ruby, I reckon your post proves that you have quite
enough to qualify! I do wish I`d kept a list though - so many people
"applied" to what was really only said in jest!

Pat P.

Ruby <stit...@mailserv.kayhay.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:25:27 GMT, Sheena Mackenzie
> <she...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >She has the prerequisites, all but one, she is TOO YOUNG. She must go
and join
> >the other training GOW's - we'll definitely let her in when he turn comes
> >though. Sheena
>

> If the saying "you are only as old as you feel" is true, then I am
> much older than you and should probably be a senior member.. So does
> that count??? must admit I could do with the training though , need to
> work on the sense of humour.

Anne Tuchscherer

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Jul 12, 2001, 9:51:39 AM7/12/01
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Pat,

Can I join too. I am a 30-something who sometimes thinks she was born a GOW
:-). I always thought the kids my age were remarkably immature.

Anne (in Ellicott City, MD)

Sheena Mackenzie

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Jul 12, 2001, 10:40:33 AM7/12/01
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As a GOW you can be forgiven for not making a list from the start. So all who
are ready to be inducted, tell Pat again, this time she will make a list! She
is working on a design for us and will draw up an email list so that all GOW
goings on can be instantly reported - you are, aren't you Attila? Or is it
Head GOW? Sheena

Seanette Blaylock

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Jul 12, 2001, 11:27:57 AM7/12/01
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Anne Tuchscherer <ann...@erols.com> had some very interesting things

to say about Re: Bickering in this group:

> Can I join too. I am a 30-something who sometimes thinks she was born a GOW


>:-). I always thought the kids my age were remarkably immature.

I had the same problem. I was an only child, and my mother reports
that I was appalled by my classmates on the first day of kindergarten.

Anne Tuchscherer

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Jul 12, 2001, 11:43:38 AM7/12/01
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Seanette,

I wasn't an only child, but I was the only girl and youngest of 5 children. My brothers are
all two years apart (10,8,6,4) and I am four years behind the youngest of them. I always felt like
I was born two years late.

I think my Mom was a GOW at a very early age and right to the very end.

Anne (in Ellicott City, MD)

Pat Porter

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Jul 12, 2001, 12:51:13 PM7/12/01
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Not head anything - everyone`s equal!!! But I don`t mind keeping a list -
then I can pass it on to everyone if they like! Like our Neighbourhood Watch
Group!!!

Could be fun though, and we could grumble and gripe to each other and give
everyone else a break!
Oh Lord, what have we started, Sheena? What was that about riding a tiger?
Of course now we`re all condemned to wearing purple - should be quite
dramatic ahould we ever have a get-together!!!

Pat P.

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CatMommy

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Jul 12, 2001, 5:10:58 PM7/12/01
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Actually I've found that some of the moderated boards, such as cross
stitch corner and TW's board to have an excellent quality of advice
and I think a great quality of support - and no ugliness.

The moderators don't allow it.

So what you have is either anarchy, and some folks like that, and I've
read RCTN off and on for years, and have seen some interesting flame
wars.

Or control - like the moderated boards I've mentioned - I think the
moderator question has come up on RCTN various times and has bene
abandoned by those who want freedom.

I surf several boards and enjoy all of them for what they are. But if
people are unhappy or hesitant to post here, there are other places to
go.

Just my two cents worth (and see I've broken my rule about posting on
off-topic posts, darn!).

Angie
>
> There is no reason for all of the sniping and meanness that goes on around
> here. All it does is make people afraid to post ANYTHING at all. There are


> so many sweet, helpful people out there that would probably love to take a
> more active role in this group that stay silent because all of ugliness.
>

> Thanks for reading,
> Lisa M

Bea

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Jul 12, 2001, 6:30:17 PM7/12/01
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Well Pat, I already have the pattern "I Shall Wear Purple", haven't done it yet
though. Maybe I'll add a line to my CATS badge that says I'm also a member of
"GOW"
Bea

Pat Porter

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Jul 12, 2001, 7:27:32 PM7/12/01
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I didn`t know there was actually a pattern for it!

Where can I get it, please?

Pat

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Bea

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Jul 12, 2001, 8:40:48 PM7/12/01
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Hi Pat,
Just found it in my stash. It's a Leisure Arts leaflet #820. I got my copy
on eBay a while ago. It has a 1989 copywrite on it and says "Best Friends
Designs" in the corner. The pattern consists of the "words" and simple cross
stitch round flowers and light green stem/leaves going up the right side.
Nothing fancy about it but it is cute.
Bea (delete the hi to reply)

NormaBM

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Jul 12, 2001, 9:10:24 PM7/12/01
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> to wearing purple - should be quite
>dramatic ahould we ever have a get-together!!!

Pat,
I want to belong but can I wear fuschia? Purple is my SIL signature color and I
won't wear it.
Happy Stitching
Norma

Janet Walker

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Jul 13, 2001, 12:41:49 AM7/13/01
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Pat,

I have a chart put out by StitchWorld titled "When I am an old woman, I
Shall Wear Purple". I think it can be ordered directly from them at
770-825-0303. It has a floral border and the poem in the middle.

Janet


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Kim Brown

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Pat Porter wrote:
>
> Not head anything - everyone`s equal!!! But I don`t mind keeping a list -
> then I can pass it on to everyone if they like! Like our Neighbourhood Watch
> Group!!!
>
> Could be fun though, and we could grumble and gripe to each other and give
> everyone else a break!
> Oh Lord, what have we started, Sheena? What was that about riding a tiger?
> Of course now we`re all condemned to wearing purple - should be quite
> dramatic ahould we ever have a get-together!!!
>
> Pat P.


Oy! I'm not wearing pu-pu-purple! I'll wear a lovely shade of *green*,
thank you! It can be vibrant kelly green if you like, but *not*
pu-pu-purple!

kvgates

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Jul 13, 2001, 2:32:33 AM7/13/01
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Okay, I'm having a problem with the thread this topic is taking. You guys
are now on to something different and didn't let us know in the topic line.
There are probably several out there who want to share their typos with you,
but don't know they can because the topic is wrong!!! (LOL) Please don't
take this seriously, I'm tired and should go to bed but am addicted to this
darn newsgroup and can't let a day go by....

(YAWN) Vicki
"Claudia Brant" <cl...@darientel.net> wrote in message
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> Gee, and we wonder why countries can't get along????
>
> Claudia
> "zphysics" <zphy...@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > Ah, but that would be so boring :-) :-) :-)
> >
> > /z.
> >
> > "lisa matthews" <rhian...@HOT.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:jYE27.56923$WT.11...@typhoon.austin.rr.com...
> > > First let me say that although I'm probably going to get lots of
flames
> > for
> > > posting at all, I feel that someone should say something to EVERYONE.
> > >
> > > 1. A newsgroup is a meeting place for people that have similar
interests
> > to
> > > get together and TALK about those interests and ANYTHING ELSE that
they
> > feel
> > > like talking about.
> > > 2. If you don't like someone or don't like their posts, then filter
out
> > > their posts or just ignore them.
> > > 3. If OT's bother you, again, filter or don't read. No one is
twisting
> > your
> > > arm.
> > > 4. People who have problems, any problems like to talk to other people
> > about
> > > them. It's natural to talk about something that bothers you. It is a
> way
> > > of coping and learning from others who may share the same experiences.
> > > It is not a bad thing. Again, if you don't want to share in these
> > > conversations/posts...don't read them.

Seanette Blaylock

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Jul 13, 2001, 5:45:37 AM7/13/01
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"Pat Porter" <pat.p...@ntlworld.com> had some very interesting

things to say about Re: Bickering in this group:

>Oh Lord, what have we started, Sheena? What was that about riding a tiger?


>Of course now we`re all condemned to wearing purple - should be quite
>dramatic ahould we ever have a get-together!!!

I don't have much purple in my wardrobe, except for that chenille
scrunchie I got in last month's exchanges. :-)

Dawne Peterson

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Jul 17, 2001, 11:18:14 AM7/17/01
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Pat Porter wrote
(snip)

> Oh Lord, what have we started, Sheena? What was that about >riding a
tiger?
If you ask a bear to dance, you must dance until the bear is tired.
Dawne.


Sheena Mackenzie

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Jul 17, 2001, 2:45:52 PM7/17/01
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I like that one Dawne - now to try and memorize it! Sheena

Pat Porter

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Jul 17, 2001, 7:43:46 PM7/17/01
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Oh I like that - what a great design it would make. One of your DH`s words
of wisdom was it?

Pat P.

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Dawne Peterson

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Jul 25, 2001, 1:42:56 PM7/25/01
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"Pat Porter" wrote

> Oh I like that - what a great design it would make. One of your DH`s
words
> of wisdom was it?
So, you're seeing it as an anniversary sampler then???/
Dawne


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