California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than Voting-Age Citizens

[raykeller]

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29

Judicial Watch Warns California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than
Voting-Age Citizens

Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog organization, has sent a letter to
California Secretary of State Alex Padilla on behalf of the Election
Integrity Project, noting that there are 11 counties in the state with more
registered voters, and alleging that the state may be out of compliance with
Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA).

The letter reads, in part:

NVRA Section 8 requires states to conduct reasonable list maintenance so
as to maintain an accurate record of eligible voters for use in conducting
federal elections.1 As you may know, Congress enacted Section 8 of the NVRA
to protect the integrity of the electoral process. Allowing the names of
ineligible voters to remain on the voting rolls harms the integrity of the
electoral process and undermines voter confidence in the legitimacy of
elections.

â?¦

As the top election official in California, it is your responsibility
under federal law to coordinate Californiaâ?Ts statewide effort to conduct a
program that reasonably ensures the lists of eligible voters are accurate.

Judicial Watch lays out the specifics: â?o[T]here were more total registered
voters than there were adults over the age of 18 living in each of the
following eleven (11) counties: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles
(112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo
(111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo
(110%).â? The letter notes that the percentage in L.A. Country may be as
high as 144%. What not Riverside???


The letter contains a threat to sue the Secretary of State if Padilla does
not remove from the rolls â?opersons who have become ineligible to vote by
reason of death, change in residence, or a disqualifying criminal
conviction, and to remove non-citizens who have registered to vote
unlawfully.â? It gives Padilla 14 days to respond, and 90 days to correctÂ
alleged violations of the law.

...

[Ed Huntress]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:32:28 -0700, "raykeller"
<whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
wrote:

>
>http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29
>
>Judicial Watch Warns California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than
>Voting-Age Citizens

That's probably true of every place in the United States that has a
lot of transients. Over 7 million Americans are registered to vote in
two or more states, because they moved and because there is no simple
mechanism to "unregister" in many states.

This includes or has included within the past year, Tiffany Trump,
Steven Mnuchin, Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Sean Spicer.

Investigators have found millions of such records but no evidence of
voter fraud to go with them.

--
Ed Huntress

[rangerssuck]

How many of the ineligible actually voted? I expect that number to be somewhere very close to zero.

[Rudy Canoza]

Trumpolini's "vote fraud" czar, Gregg Phillips, was registered in three
states as of Nov 2016:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-voter-fraud-expert-phillips-20170130-story.html

Trumpolini said that being multiply registered is a crime /per se/.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-voters-registered-multiple-states-20170127-story.html

What a dope!

[Ed Huntress]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:38:25 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendriie.con>
wrote:

>On 8/5/2017 11:42 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:32:28 -0700, "raykeller"
>> <whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29
>>>
>>> Judicial Watch Warns California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than
>>> Voting-Age Citizens
>>
>> That's probably true of every place in the United States that has a
>> lot of transients. Over 7 million Americans are registered to vote in
>> two or more states, because they moved and because there is no simple
>> mechanism to "unregister" in many states.
>>
>> This includes or has included within the past year, Tiffany Trump,
>> Steven Mnuchin, Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Sean Spicer.
>>
>> Investigators have found millions of such records but no evidence of
>> voter fraud to go with them.
>
>Trumpolini's "vote fraud" czar, Gregg Phillips, was registered in three
>states as of Nov 2016:
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-voter-fraud-expert-phillips-20170130-story.html

Ha-ha! That's delicious.

>
>Trumpolini said that being multiply registered is a crime /per se/.
>http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-voters-registered-multiple-states-20170127-story.html
>
>What a dope!

You give him too much credit.

--
Ed Huntress

[Red Prepper]

Hey Cunt in a Dress,

Why don't you and Trudy get a room of your own. You can get all
shrill and flail your arms about as you plot Trump's overthrow. Then
afterwards you can fist each other's cunts.

[Ed Huntress]

Go fuck yourself, you sleazy coward.

--
Ed Huntress

[Mr. B1ack]

Seems there's been a deliberate *effort* not to look
for fraud since Obama was elected ......

I wonder why that was hmm ?

[Ed Huntress]

On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 21:48:13 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:

There has been nothing of the kind. The fact is, all of this has been
known for decades -- that millions of people are registered in
multiple states, and every time ANYBODY checks for fraudulent voting,
they come up empty. Using sampling techniques, it's not that hard to
check. The typical percentage is, as it always has been, a small
fraction of one percent.

>
> I wonder why that was hmm ?

Because there was an epidemic of Obama Derangement Syndrome:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Obama%20Derangement%20Syndrome

--
Ed Huntress

[Seaview]

That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.

[Seaview]

On 8/5/2017 4:04 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> What a dope!
> You give him too much credit.

You lay down with the dog Little man Ball you get his fleas, Cuntdress.

[Seaview]

On 8/5/2017 5:26 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> Hey Cunt in a Dress,
> Go fuck yourself, you sleazy coward.

Eat shit and die, you least coast lackwit.

[Seaview]

On 8/5/2017 8:41 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 21:48:13 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 14:42:12 -0400, Ed Huntress
>> <hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:32:28 -0700, "raykeller"
>>> <whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29
>>>>
>>>> Judicial Watch Warns California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than
>>>> Voting-Age Citizens
>>>
>>> That's probably true of every place in the United States that has a
>>> lot of transients. Over 7 million Americans are registered to vote in
>>> two or more states, because they moved and because there is no simple
>>> mechanism to "unregister" in many states.
>>>
>>> This includes or has included within the past year, Tiffany Trump,
>>> Steven Mnuchin, Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Sean Spicer.
>>>
>>> Investigators have found millions of such records but no evidence of
>>> voter fraud to go with them.
>>
>> Seems there's been a deliberate *effort* not to look
>> for fraud since Obama was elected ......
>
> There has been nothing of the kind.

BULLSHIT LIE!

How do you think this SUDDENLY became news?

>>
>> I wonder why that was hmm ?
>
> Because there was an epidemic of Obama Derangement Syndrome:

He was America's Trojan Horse, ya fucking cuntdress traitor!

DROP DEAD.

[Ed Huntress]

Jeez, when you're a coward hiding behind your momma's skirts with a
nym, and you're full of bullshit, I guess you have to type in caps in
order to pretend you aren't an impotent bag of wind.

Speaking of SeaFoam, NJ's governor is off the beach (he'd be chased
off if he showed up), and the rip currents are 'way down, so it's a
good time to head down the shore. Blues are in the surf!

--
Ed Huntress

[Seaview]

So you SUPPORT Obummer's pro-Islime appeasement presidency?

Sickening.

> Speaking of SeaFoam, NJ's governor is off the beach (he'd be chased
> off if he showed up), and the rip currents are 'way down, so it's a
> good time to head down the shore. Blues are in the surf!

The old Christie minstrel can hum a few Frankie Vali tunes in his
retirement,

[Ed Huntress]

Now you're saying he was a Trojan horse from America? Trump said he
was a Kenyan. <g>

You're full of crap and delusional, SeaFoam.

>>>
>>> DROP DEAD.
>>
>> Jeez, when you're a coward hiding behind your momma's skirts with a
>> nym, and you're full of bullshit, I guess you have to type in caps in
>> order to pretend you aren't an impotent bag of wind.
>
>So you SUPPORT Obummer's pro-Islime appeasement presidency?

No, there was no such presidency.

>
>Sickening.

Yes, you're quite a disgusting coward.

>
>> Speaking of SeaFoam, NJ's governor is off the beach (he'd be chased
>> off if he showed up), and the rip currents are 'way down, so it's a
>> good time to head down the shore. Blues are in the surf!
>
>The old Christie minstrel can hum a few Frankie Vali tunes in his
>retirement,

Just so he does it behind closed doors.

--
Ed Huntress

[Seaview]

No, he was Trojan Horse sent to America - by CPUSA and radical Islime.

> Trump said he
> was a Kenyan. <g>

So did the Kenyan ambassador:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14

> You're full of crap and delusional, SeaFoam.

Oh?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrak3vPcz0A


"I wasn't born in the United States of America. I was born in Kenya".

- Barack Obama

>>>>
>>>> DROP DEAD.
>>>
>>> Jeez, when you're a coward hiding behind your momma's skirts with a
>>> nym, and you're full of bullshit, I guess you have to type in caps in
>>> order to pretend you aren't an impotent bag of wind.
>>
>> So you SUPPORT Obummer's pro-Islime appeasement presidency?
>
> No, there was no such presidency.

You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare

Affirming Muslim grievances has only increased the Arab world's sense
that Obama is weak. When President Obama entered office, he dreamed that
his hope-and-change messaging and his references to his familial Islamic
roots would win over the Muslim world. The soon-to-be Nobel Peace Prize
laureate would make the U.S. liked in the Middle East. Then, terrorism
would decrease. But, as with his approach to racial relations, Obama’s
remedies proved worse than the original illness. Obama gave his first
presidential interview to Al Arabiya, noting that he has Muslims in his
family. He implicitly blamed America’s strained relations with many
Middle Eastern countries on his supposedly insensitive predecessor,
George W. Bush. The new message of the Obama administration was that the
Islamic world was understandably hostile because of what America had
done rather than what it represented. Accordingly, all mention of
radical Islam, and even the word “terrorism,” was airbrushed from the
new administration’s vocabulary. Words to describe terrorism or the
fight against it were replaced by embarrassing euphemisms like “overseas
contingency operations,” “man-caused disaster,” and “workplace
violence.” In apology tours and mythological speeches, Obama exaggerated
Islamic history as often as he critiqued America. He backed the Muslim
Brotherhood in Egypt. He pushed America away from Israel, appeased Iran,
and tried to piggyback on the Arab Spring by bombing Libya. He even
lectured Christians on their past pathologies dating back to the
Crusades. Yet Obama’s outreach was still interpreted by Islamists as
guilt and weakness to be exploited rather than magnanimity to be
reciprocated. Terrorist attacks increased. Obama blamed them on a lack
of gun control or generic “violent extremism.” Careerist toadies in
government parroted the party-line message and even tried to outdo their
politically correct boss.

Read more at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare

>>
>> Sickening.
>
> Yes, you're quite a disgusting coward.

Former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano focused on returning
veterans as terrorist risks. Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry
said that global warming, not the Islamic State, was the real threat.
NASA administrator Charles Bolden said the president asked him to make
Muslim outreach a top priority for the agency. CIA director John Brennan
said that jihad “is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam.”
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper opined that the Muslim
Brotherhood was largely secular. The president often blamed the
detention facility at Guantanamo Bay for needlessly provoking Islam.
Obama said that terrorist dangers were no more deadly than falls in
bathtubs. He wrote off the Islamic State as an inept jayvee squad,
assuring that they posed no existential threat. He campaigned on the
premise that al-Qaeda was on the run. Obama pulled all troops out of
Iraq, which instantly degenerated into chaos. RELATED: Look for
America’s Enemies to Take Advantage of Obama’s Last Year Obama kept
insisting that guns, not Islamic terrorists, were the real danger — even
as assassins used bombs from Boston to Paris, knives from California to
Oklahoma, and, most recently, a truck to run over innocents in Nice,
France. Intelligence and law-enforcement agencies got the message and
worried more about charges of “Islamophobia” than preempting deadly
terrorist attacks. Authorities had either interviewed and then ignored
the Boston, Fort Hood, San Bernardino, and Orlando terrorists, or they
had blindly ignored their brazen social-media threats. There was never
cause for such weak-horse contrition. SHARE ARTICLE ON FACEBOOKSHARE
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Read more at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare

>>
>>> Speaking of SeaFoam, NJ's governor is off the beach (he'd be chased
>>> off if he showed up), and the rip currents are 'way down, so it's a
>>> good time to head down the shore. Blues are in the surf!
>>
>> The old Christie minstrel can hum a few Frankie Vali tunes in his
>> retirement,
>
> Just so he does it behind closed doors.
>

Radical Islam never had legitimate grievances against the West. America
and Europe had welcomed in Muslim immigrants — even as Christians were
persecuted and driven out of the Middle East. Billions of dollars in
American aid still flows to Islamic countries. The U.S. spent untold
blood and treasure freeing Kuwait and later the Shiites of Iraq from
Saddam Hussein. America tried to save Afghanistan from the Soviets and
later from the Taliban. For over a half-century, the West paid
jacked-up prices for OPEC oil — even as the U.S. Navy protected Persian
Gulf sea lanes to ensure lucrative oil profits for Gulf-state
monarchies. RELATED: Few in the West Are Serious about Islamist Terror
Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, the original architects of
al-Qaeda, were so desperate to find grievances against the West that in
their written diatribes they had to invent fantasies of Jews walking in
Mecca. In Michael Moore fashion, they laughably whined about America’s
lack of campaign-finance reform and Western culpability for global
warming. The real problem is that Islamic terrorism feeds off the
self-induced failures of the Middle East. Jihadists try to convince the
Arab street that returning to religious fundamentalism and exporting
jihad will empower Muslims to recapture lost primacy over a decadent and
guilty West, just as in the mythical glory days of the caliphate. MORE
FOREIGN POLICY THE KOREAN GAMES OF THRONES EUROPE BETWEEN TRUMP AND
PUTIN DEPOSING ASSAD COULD HURT SYRIA’S CHRISTIANS In truth, religious
intolerance, gender apartheid, illiteracy, autocracy, statism,
tribalism, and religious fundamentalism all guarantee poverty, economic
stagnation, and scapegoating. While much of Asia and Latin America
progressed through reform, the Middle East blame-gamed its miseries on
affluent Western nations and on Israel. More disturbing, millions of
Middle Easterners fled to the safety of Europe and the United States —
but on occasion, only to resist assimilation and show ingratitude once
they got there. In short, the dreamy Obama approach to terrorism has
proved a nightmare — and it is not over yet. — Victor Davis Hanson is a
classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University,
and the author, most recently, of The Savior Generals. You can reach him
by e-mailing aut...@victorhanson.com. © 2016 Tribune Media Services, Inc.

Read more at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare

[Ed Huntress]

No he didn't. He said he spoke a few words.

But it's true, too, that Donald Trump is learning English, bigly!

>
>> You're full of crap and delusional, SeaFoam.
>
>Oh?
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrak3vPcz0A
>
>
>"I wasn't born in the United States of America. I was born in Kenya".
>
>- Barack Obama

Here's where that came from:

""This is the guy who was sure *I was born in Kenya*," Barack Obama on
Donald Trump."

>
>>>>>
>>>>> DROP DEAD.
>>>>
>>>> Jeez, when you're a coward hiding behind your momma's skirts with a
>>>> nym, and you're full of bullshit, I guess you have to type in caps in
>>>> order to pretend you aren't an impotent bag of wind.
>>>
>>> So you SUPPORT Obummer's pro-Islime appeasement presidency?
>>
>> No, there was no such presidency.
>
>You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!
>
>http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196
>
>http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare

I never lie online, but you just did.

Nope. No appeasement. That's Victor Hanson, who also wrote "Trump's
Circular Firing Squad."

He's a curmudgeeon for all reasons.

--
Ed Huntress

[Seaview]

Liar!

https://www.mrconservative.com/2014/10/51951-kenyan-ambassador-admits-obama-was-born-in-kenya/

This newly surfaced clip from 2008 shows the Kenyan Ambassador admit
that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
Ambassador Peter Ogego was doing an interview on the Mike in the Morning
Show just after Obama was elected President in 2008, and he sure dropped
a bombshell.
When the hosts asked him if Obama’s birthplace in Kenya would be
commemorated, Ogego proudly said that the Kenyan birthplace already has
a memorial marker set up.
It’s a well known fact in Kenya that Obama was born there, and even his
own grandmother admits it. This confirmation from the Ambassador makes
it clear that Obama was indeed foreign born, and that he’s had no
business being our President for the last six years.

https://www.mrconservative.com/2014/10/51944-obamas-own-grandmother-admits-he-was-born-in-kenya/

Recently surfaced audio footage shows Barack Obama’s grandmother admit
that the President was born in Kenya.
At the end of the interview, Sarah Obama clearly says that she was
present at Barack’s birth in her country of Kenya.
The interview was conducted in 2008, before Obama had won the
Presidency. Apparently, Obama’s people had not yet instructed “Granny
Sarah” to lie and say that Obama was not born in Kenya.
Though she would swear that the President was born in the U.S. in later
interviews, Sarah’s original story was always that he was born in Kenya.

>>> You're full of crap and delusional, SeaFoam.
>>
>> Oh?
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrak3vPcz0A
>>
>>
>> "I wasn't born in the United States of America. I was born in Kenya".
>>
>> - Barack Obama
>
> Here's where that came from:
>
> ""This is the guy who was sure *I was born in Kenya*," Barack Obama on
> Donald Trump."

Bullshit!

He SAID IT HIMSELF.

And so did his wife:

http://americannews.com/michelle-obama-accidentally-admits-her-husband-was-born-in-kenya/

Some shocking new footage has come to the surface, in which Michelle
Obama inadvertently alludes to the fact the President Obama was actually
born in Kenya.

When speaking about her husband, Michelle claims, “When we took our trip
to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV
test for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing
to be embarrassed about in getting tested.”

His home country, huh? Well that certainly clears things up.

>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DROP DEAD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeez, when you're a coward hiding behind your momma's skirts with a
>>>>> nym, and you're full of bullshit, I guess you have to type in caps in
>>>>> order to pretend you aren't an impotent bag of wind.
>>>>
>>>> So you SUPPORT Obummer's pro-Islime appeasement presidency?
>>>
>>> No, there was no such presidency.
>>
>> You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196
>>
>> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare
>
> I never lie online, but you just did.

Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lISyslHV1l4

Barack Obama Speaking In Western Kenya With Mass Murderer Raila Odinga:
"I Am So Proud To Come Back Home..." - August 26, 2006

Michelle Obama declares Barack Obama's Home country is Kenya: 2008

Bullshit, you are in complete DENIAL!

> That's Victor Hanson,

Respected scholar and colege professor.

> who also wrote "Trump's Circular Firing Squad."

And?

> He's a curmudgeeon for all reasons.

He's 1,000 times the man you will never be, You Demotarded traitor!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson

Victor Davis Hanson (born September 5, 1953 in Fowler, California) is an
American classicist, military historian, columnist, and farmer. He has
been a commentator on modern and ancient warfare and contemporary
politics for National Review, The Washington Times and other media
outlets. He is a professor emeritus of classics at California State
University, Fresno, and is currently the Martin and Illie Anderson
Senior Fellow in classics and military history at Stanford University's
Hoover Institution. He chairs the Hoover working group on Military
History and Contemporary Conflict as well as being the general editor of
the Hoover online journal, Strategika. He has been a visiting professor
at Hillsdale College where he teaches an intensive course on world,
ancient or military history in the autumn semester, as the Wayne and
Marcia Buske Distinguished Fellow in History since 2004.[1] Hanson is
perhaps best known for his 2001 book Carnage and Culture: Landmark
Battles in the Rise of Western Power, a New York Times best-selling book.

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[Tom Gardner]

On 8/6/2017 4:00 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>> You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!
>>
>> http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196
>>
>> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare
>
> I never lie online, but you just did.
>

Gee Ed, who's your new buddy? And I thought only Gunner, LJ and a few
others could attract such dedicated followers.

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[Seaview]

On 8/6/2017 3:14 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 8/6/2017 4:00 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>>
>>> You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare
>>>
>>
>> I never lie online, but you just did.
>>
>
>
> Gee Ed, who's your new buddy? And I thought only Gunner, LJ and a few
> others could attract such dedicated followers.
>

Oh lookie, the liar's club has some new members...

[Terry Coombs]

What makes you think Tom' an Eddiefan ?

--

Snag

[Seaview]

Just a hunch.

Am I wrong?

[Ed Huntress]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 17:14:55 -0400, Tom Gardner <ma...@tacks.com> wrote:

>On 8/6/2017 4:00 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>>
>>> You are a GODDAMNED LIAR!
>>>
>>> http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/why-won-t-obama-say-radical-islam-n591196
>>>
>>> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438125/obamas-muslim-outreach-nightmare
>>
>> I never lie online, but you just did.
>>
>
>
>Gee Ed, who's your new buddy? And I thought only Gunner, LJ and a few
>others could attract such dedicated followers.

SeaFoam (aka. Seabiscuit) is another troll who got dragged in by one
of the reprobates -- probably Kopypasta Keller.

He only rates a 55 on the obnoxious scale, but he has a gutter mouth.

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[Ed Huntress]

Dimwit, he was talking about Barack Sr.

>It’s a well known fact in Kenya that Obama was born there, and even his
>own grandmother admits it. This confirmation from the Ambassador makes
>it clear that Obama was indeed foreign born, and that he’s had no
>business being our President for the last six years.
>
>https://www.mrconservative.com/2014/10/51944-obamas-own-grandmother-admits-he-was-born-in-kenya/
>
>Recently surfaced audio footage shows Barack Obama’s grandmother admit
>that the President was born in Kenya.
>At the end of the interview, Sarah Obama clearly says that she was
>present at Barack’s birth in her country of Kenya.
>The interview was conducted in 2008, before Obama had won the
>Presidency. Apparently, Obama’s people had not yet instructed “Granny
>Sarah” to lie and say that Obama was not born in Kenya.
>Though she would swear that the President was born in the U.S. in later
>interviews, Sarah’s original story was always that he was born in Kenya.

Nope. This bullshit was debunked several years ago.

>
>
>>>> You're full of crap and delusional, SeaFoam.
>>>
>>> Oh?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrak3vPcz0A
>>>
>>>
>>> "I wasn't born in the United States of America. I was born in Kenya".
>>>
>>> - Barack Obama
>>
>> Here's where that came from:
>>
>> ""This is the guy who was sure *I was born in Kenya*," Barack Obama on
>> Donald Trump."
>
>Bullshit!
>
>He SAID IT HIMSELF.
>
>And so did his wife:
>
>http://americannews.com/michelle-obama-accidentally-admits-her-husband-was-born-in-kenya/
>
>Some shocking new footage has come to the surface, in which Michelle
>Obama inadvertently alludes to the fact the President Obama was actually
>born in Kenya.
>
>When speaking about her husband, Michelle claims, “When we took our trip
>to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV
>test for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing
>to be embarrassed about in getting tested.”
>
>His home country, huh? Well that certainly clears things up.

Nope. That's one of his two ancestral countries.

Don't be a dope, SeaFoam. Not even the rightards drag up these phony
stories out anymore.

I know who he is. When he talks about current political issues, he's
an old curmudgeon.

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[Seaview]

Arrrgggh, byte my crank, matey!

[Seaview]

He is a true scholar, the likes of which a mouth-breather like yourself
could never even hope to comprehend.

[Terry Coombs]

>> What makes you think Tom's an Eddiefan ?

>>
>> --
>>
>> Snag
>>
> Just a hunch.
>
> Am I wrong?
>
>

I believe so , from what I've read of his posts over the last several
years he definitely leans to the right .

--

Snag

[Seaview]

Thanks, I retract my comment then.

[Ed Huntress]

Tom is one of the half-dozen or so people here who has some common
sense and decency, and the common courage to use his real name. That's
why we get along, despite some political differences.

--
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[rangerssuck]

Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?

[Seaview]

On 8/6/2017 10:07 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>> That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.
> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?

Several million, you leftard spaniel felcher.

[Seaview]

Aw, isn't that cozy!

Now ESAD cuntdress.

[rangerssuck]

you're even crazier than I thought. Do you REALLY believe that or are you doing this for sport? Do you have any real data (other than Trump says so) to back up that absurd statement?

[Ed Huntress]

Sport. He gave up pulling the wings off of flies to do this.

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[dca...@krl.org]

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 12:07:37 AM UTC-4, rangerssuck wrote:


>
> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?

I can not answer your question. Based on how some readers of RCM are interested in politics, I would guess there are some ineligible voters that voted more than once.

My question is " Do you think it is a good thing that voter rolls are not purged? " Would it not be reasonable to require people registering to vote, to state their previous place of registration, if any? And require the officials to notify the previous place that the person is now registered in a new location. THere may not be a lot of fraud going on, but don't you lock your house when you go somewhere. Sure there is not a lot of theft in your town, but most people consider it prudent to not create opportunity for crime.

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

If you sample 1,000 voters who are registered in two or more states
(they're easy to find; there are an estimated 7,000,000 of them), and
then check to see how many voted in multiple states (also easy; check
the voter records in each state for which those multiple-state
registrants are registered), you'll be able to measure the size of the
problem -- if any.

Then you'll know whether it's worth requiring states to notify voting
authorities in the (previous) states to which those voters are
registered.

Based on the research that's been done over the past few decades, the
likely answer is that it isn't worth the trouble, because the
multiple-state voters appear to be a small fraction of one percent of
all voters.

--
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[Seaview]

On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, rangerssuck wrote:
> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-4, Seaview wrote:
>> On 8/6/2017 10:07 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>>> That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.
>>> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?
>>
>> Several million, you leftard spaniel felcher.
>
> you're even crazier than I thought.

Truth hurts, no?

> Do you REALLY believe that or are you doing this for sport?

Oh it's true enough.

> Do you have any real data (other than Trump says so) to back up that absurd statement?

Yup:

http://truthfeed.com/breaking-hillarys-popular-vote-came-from-over-3-million-votes-cast-by-non-citizens/35700/

According to Gregg Philips of votefraud.org, three million illegal
aliens voted! This was voters fraud on a massive scale!
We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.
We are joining .@TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged

[Seaview]

Silence, Renfield!

http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary

[Seaview]

On 8/7/2017 12:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> multiple-state voters appear to be a small fraction of one percent of
> all voters.

http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary

So, just how extensive was the voter fraud? According to a voting fraud
investigation agency, VoterFraud.org, an astounding 3 million votes were
cast by non-citizens. The bombshell revelation was made after the group
completed an analysis of a database containing 180 million voter
registrations.



“Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million. Consulting legal team,”
tweeted Gregg Phillips, who heads up the fraud reporting agency.


It’s safe to assume that virtually all of the votes cast by these 3
million illegals would’ve been for Hillary Clinton, meaning that Trump
would’ve won in a landslide against Hillary in the popular vote as well.
States where this fraud went on would’ve been in locations allowing
people to vote with no identification, including California, Illinois,
Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New
Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania,
Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Washington, D.C.

[Ed Huntress]

No, they're lying, as you certainly know. They said they checked a
"database of over 180 million voters." There is no such database.
Trump's toadie Kobach is trying to come up with one and is coming up
empty.

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[Ed Huntress]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:47 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:

>On 8/7/2017 12:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> multiple-state voters appear to be a small fraction of one percent of
>> all voters.
>
>
>http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary
>
>So, just how extensive was the voter fraud? According to a voting fraud
>investigation agency, VoterFraud.org, an astounding 3 million votes were
>cast by non-citizens. The bombshell revelation was made after the group
>completed an analysis of a database containing 180 million voter
>registrations.

There is no such database. They're full of shit; you're full of shit;
and Trump is full of shit.

--
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[Seaview]

On 8/7/2017 12:48 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:41:35 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 11:26 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
>>> <range...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-4, Seaview wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/2017 10:07 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>>>>>> That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.
>>>>>> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?
>>>>>
>>>>> Several million, you leftard spaniel felcher.
>>>>
>>>> you're even crazier than I thought. Do you REALLY believe that or are you doing this for sport? Do you have any real data (other than Trump says so) to back up that absurd statement?
>>>
>>> Sport. He gave up pulling the wings off of flies to do this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Silence, Renfield!
>>
>> http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary
>>
>> We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.
>> We are joining .@TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged
>
> No, they're lying,

No, they are NOT!

[Seaview]

And Crazy Eddy melts down again gang!

Yee haw!

[rangerssuck]

By your own standards, this is not believable until it reported by a journalist of the caliber of Bob Woodward. So far, it has not.

[Seaview]

This is also not an example of "fact-checking", so your comment is a non
sequitur.

[goodsoldi...@invalid.junk]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:40:54 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:

"We have verified more than three million votes cast..."?

"We have verified that Seaview is stupid"!

See? Right here on the Web, PROOF! Actual proof, posted right on the
Web, and equally as valid as your proof.

The only question remaining is whether you are intelligent enough to
go out of doors without a leash?
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Schweik

[goodsoldi...@invalid.junk]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:47 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:

Rather then take you at face value, I actually checked the Vermont
voter identification rules and to register to vote in that state you
will be required to provide the following:

Valid photo ID (driver's license or passport)
Current utility bill
Current bank statement
Another government document

New Jersey:

As of January 1, 2006, all registrants are required to provide
identification information as follows. If a registrant has a driver's
license or an MVC non-driver identification, those numbers must be
provided.

Maine:

To be eligible to vote in Maine, you must meet the following
requirements:

18 years old
United States Citizen
Resident of the municipality in which you want to vote

So I guess your statement "allowing people to vote with no
identification" is not correct. The only remaining problem is whether
you are a liar? Or just stupid?
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[goodsoldi...@invalid.junk]

Thus spoke Seaview, the proven liar :-(
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Schweik

[dca...@krl.org]

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 2:06:29 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:


> If you sample 1,000 voters who are registered in two or more states
> (they're easy to find; there are an estimated 7,000,000 of them), and
> then check to see how many voted in multiple states (also easy; check
> the voter records in each state for which those multiple-state
> registrants are registered), you'll be able to measure the size of the
> problem -- if any.
>
> Then you'll know whether it's worth requiring states to notify voting
> authorities in the (previous) states to which those voters are
> registered.
>
> Based on the research that's been done over the past few decades, the
> likely answer is that it isn't worth the trouble, because the
> multiple-state voters appear to be a small fraction of one percent of
> all voters.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

So do you lock your house up when you go somewhere? From your answer on purging the voter rolls, your answer ought to be that there is little theft in your area and it is not worth the effort because only a small fraction of the local residents are thief's.

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

A very bad analogy, Dan. One burglar can make a mess of my life. A
thousand illegal voters makes no measurable difference to yours.

--
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[dca...@krl.org]

I disagree, Many elections occur with less than a thousand vote majority. Allowing illegal votes erodes our belief in our system of government.

You seem to be saying that a little crime is okay.

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 19:45:57 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"

I'm talking about nationwide. You couldn't even measure the effect.

> Allowing illegal votes erodes our belief in our system of government.
>

Only for people who can't do the arithmetic. And I'm not saying it
should be "allowed."

>You seem to be saying that a little crime is okay.

No. What I would say, if I were asked, is that suppressing a million
votes via unprecedented restrictions in order to catch a few thousand
fraudulent votes spread around.does a hell of a lot more damage to

"belief in our system of government."

--
Ed Huntress

[Tom Gardner]

On 8/7/2017 11:37 AM, Seaview wrote:
>>>>
>>> Thanks, I retract my comment then.
>>
>> Tom is one of the half-dozen or so people here who has some common
>> sense and decency, and the common courage to use his real name. That's
>> why we get along, despite some political differences.
>>
>
> Aw, isn't that cozy!
>
> Now ESAD cuntdress.
>
>

So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have? You
do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect, don't you?

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[Tom Gardner]

On 8/6/2017 6:51 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>>
>> Gee Ed, who's your new buddy? And I thought only Gunner, LJ and a few
>> others could attract such dedicated followers.
>

> SeaFoam (aka. Seabiscuit) is another troll who got dragged in by one
> of the reprobates -- probably Kopypasta Keller.
>
> He only rates a 55 on the obnoxious scale, but he has a gutter mouth.
>

That's usually a good indicator of his place in society.

[SeaSnake]

On 8/7/2017 7:23 PM, goodsoldi...@invalid.junk wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:40:54 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 11:01 AM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-4, Seaview wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/2017 10:07 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>>>>> That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.
>>>>> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?
>>>>
>>>> Several million, you leftard spaniel felcher.
>>>
>>> you're even crazier than I thought.
>>
>> Truth hurts, no?
>>
>>> Do you REALLY believe that or are you doing this for sport?
>>
>> Oh it's true enough.
>>
>>> Do you have any real data (other than Trump says so) to back up that absurd statement?
>>
>> Yup:
>>
>> http://truthfeed.com/breaking-hillarys-popular-vote-came-from-over-3-million-votes-cast-by-non-citizens/35700/
>>
>> According to Gregg Philips of votefraud.org, three million illegal
>> aliens voted! This was voters fraud on a massive scale!
>> We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.
>> We are joining .@TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged
>>
>
> "We have verified more than three million votes cast..."?
>

Yep.

[SeaSnake]

Mmm hmmm!

[SeaSnake]

On 8/7/2017 9:14 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 8/7/2017 11:37 AM, Seaview wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I retract my comment then.
>>>
>>> Tom is one of the half-dozen or so people here who has some common
>>> sense and decency, and the common courage to use his real name. That's
>>> why we get along, despite some political differences.
>>>
>>
>> Aw, isn't that cozy!
>>
>> Now ESAD cuntdress.
>>
>>
>
> So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have? You
> do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect, don't you?

You do realize that the respect of fools is a foolish thing.

[SeaSnake]

On 8/7/2017 9:16 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 8/6/2017 6:51 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Gee Ed, who's your new buddy? And I thought only Gunner, LJ and a few
>>> others could attract such dedicated followers.
>>
>> SeaFoam (aka. Seabiscuit) is another troll who got dragged in by one
>> of the reprobates -- probably Kopypasta Keller.
>>
>> He only rates a 55 on the obnoxious scale, but he has a gutter mouth.
>>
>
> That's usually a good indicator of his place in society.
>

Looks like you 2 are lovebirds after all..

[dca...@krl.org]

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:




> No. What I would say, if I were asked, is that suppressing a million
> votes via unprecedented restrictions in order to catch a few thousand
> fraudulent votes spread around.does a hell of a lot more damage to
> "belief in our system of government."
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

Please explain how purging voter rolls of old outdated registrations is going to surpresss a million wotes. And explain what the unprecedented restriction is. I am of the opinion that there has always been a restriction on being registered to vote in multiple areas. So how is actually enforcing that is unprecedented.

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 09:30:25 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"
<dca...@krl.org> wrote:

>On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 10:52:13 PM UTC-4, Ed Huntress wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> No. What I would say, if I were asked, is that suppressing a million
>> votes via unprecedented restrictions in order to catch a few thousand
>> fraudulent votes spread around.does a hell of a lot more damage to
>> "belief in our system of government."
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
>Please explain how purging voter rolls of old outdated registrations is going to surpresss a million wotes.

You're making the wrong connection. What I said is that one of those
two things is much worse in terms of damaging "belief in our system of
government" than the other. And I said that the "purge" will produce,
at most, an insignificant result -- at considerable trouble and at
extra, unnecessary, expense.

>And explain what the unprecedented restriction is.

Reducing polling places in selected areas and about a dozen other
restrictions that Kobach proposed in his home state. A federal court
fined him earlier this year for voter-fraud deceptions. He wants to do
the same thing nationwide.

>I am of the opinion that there has always been a restriction on being registered to vote in multiple areas. So how is actually enforcing that is unprecedented.

No, there has been no such "restriction." Tell us about nationwide
laws that say you have to de-register when you move from one state to
another.

--
Ed Huntress

[Martin Eastburn]

When I lived in the north bay area and worked there, I'd fly out of the
airport - the old and new buildings. I went in one early day to fly to
the U.K. on business and it was like the public buses in Mexico.

Boxes and crates and an elderly lady - 60-70 I was younger then - was
paying the way to a dozen with air miles from multiple sources. She was
in a twist as she had to many points on one plane and not enough on
another. The shorted plane company turned out to be a 'partner' with
the other and took the points from both.

That was a Church caught a number of times running an underground
railroad and shipping them all across the USA. None spoke much English,
she spoke ""Spanish"" to them. Really Mexican Indian.

Martin


On 8/5/2017 1:42 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 11:32:28 -0700, "raykeller"
> <whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%29
>>
>> Judicial Watch Warns California: 11 Counties Have More Voters than
>> Voting-Age Citizens
>
> That's probably true of every place in the United States that has a
> lot of transients. Over 7 million Americans are registered to vote in
> two or more states, because they moved and because there is no simple
> mechanism to "unregister" in many states.
>
> This includes or has included within the past year, Tiffany Trump,
> Steven Mnuchin, Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, and Sean Spicer.
>
> Investigators have found millions of such records but no evidence of
> voter fraud to go with them.
>

[Scout]

"SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message
news:omclks$dhh$6...@news.mixmin.net...

It's not only fools who judge you based on your behavior and attitude....

[rangerssuck]

I see. It's a fact that there were all these illegal votes because you read someone's tweet on someone else's blog. And THAT you blindly accept as "truth?" Why don't you look a little deeper and find out whether there is actual evidence of voter fraud other than "someone (or everyone) says so, so it must be true?"

[Rudy Canoza]

On 8/7/2017 11:48 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:41:35 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 11:26 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
>>> <range...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 11:33:01 AM UTC-4, Seaview wrote:
>>>>> On 8/6/2017 10:07 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
>>>>>>> That's because you're a leftard wallowing in denial.
>>>>>> Answer the question, if you can. How many of the ineligible actually voted?
>>>>>
>>>>> Several million, you leftard spaniel felcher.
>>>>
>>>> you're even crazier than I thought. Do you REALLY believe that or are you doing this for sport? Do you have any real data (other than Trump says so) to back up that absurd statement?
>>>
>>> Sport. He gave up pulling the wings off of flies to do this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Silence, Renfield!
>>
>> http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary
>>
>> We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens.

Bullshit.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 8/7/2017 11:51 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:47 -0600, Seaview <adm...@nelson.le> wrote:
>
>> On 8/7/2017 12:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>> multiple-state voters appear to be a small fraction of one percent of
>>> all voters.
>>
>>
>> http://www.lovethispic.com/blog/12737/shocking-report-reveals-staggering-number-of-illegals-who-voted-for-hillary
>>
>> So, just how extensive was the voter fraud? According to a voting fraud
>> investigation agency, VoterFraud.org, an astounding 3 million votes were
>> cast by non-citizens.

Bullshit.

[dca...@krl.org]

> No, there has been no such "restriction." Tell us about nationwide
> laws that say you have to de-register when you move from one state to
> another.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

The National Voter Registration Act Of 1993

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 05:50:17 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"
<dca...@krl.org> wrote:

> National Voter Registration Act Of 1993

"Do States have to use the NCOA process to initiate the notice
process?

"No. States do not have to use the NCOA [National Change of Address
program] process. Under the NVRA, States must have a general program
that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of
voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of
address. The program has to be uniform, non-discriminatory, in
compliance with the Voting Rights Act and must be completed 90 days
before a federal election. States otherwise have discretion under the
NVRA and HAVA in how they design their general program, and States
currently undertake a variety of approaches to how they initiate the
notice process."

In other words, good luck.

--
Ed Huntress

[dca...@krl.org]

In other words there is a requirement. THere does not seem to be compliance. You asked about a requirement.

The same applies to illegal immagrants.

There is a requirment, but not much compliance.

Dan

Dan

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"

There are two problems with this "requirement." First, states can't
remove someone for four years after they question a residency by the
mail survey procedure described in the Act..

Second, and stemming from the first point, they can't remove someone
even if they don't return the confirmation postcard, if they DO vote
in the subsequent four years.

In other words, it can't catch fraudulent voters if they vote in
multiple jurisdictions, unless they fail to vote in a four year
period.

Which makes the whole thing moot as a device to prevent multiple votes
in multiple states.

--
Ed Huntress

[SeaSnake]

Of course not, it's judgemental people, period.

Remember, this is a virtual bar in a bad neighborhood.

The adoration of Eddy's friends will only lead to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZjpN9BaYSg

[Enki]

11 years ago, while posting under this current nym, Rudy Canoza, we had a
discussion about a revised marketing claim concerning grass-fed beef from
USDA. You claimed that you had written to and received a reply from
William T.
Sessions, Associate Deputy Administrator, Livestock and Seed Program. Here
below is the post you wrote using the nym Rudy Canoza containing your
correspondence with William Sessions.

[start- Jon to me]
Eat shit and bark at the moon, Dreck - the proposed
standard has NOT been adopted. I wrote to William
Sessions, the associate deputy administrator (how's
that for a title) at the Livestock and Seed Program at
USDA that is in charge of writing the standard for the
"meat marketing claims"; his name, title and e-mail
address are at a web page whose URL I gave yesterday,
http://www.fass.org/fasstrack/news_item.asp?news_id=1152

Here's his reply:

From: "Sessions, William" <William....@usda.gov>
To: <jonball@[...]>
Mr. Ball: Thanks for your message. The marketing claim
standards are still under review by USDA. Accordingly, the
standards have not been published in a final form for use. I
hope this information is helpful.
Please let me know if further information is needed.
Thanks,
William T. Sessions
Associate Deputy Administrator
Livestock and Seed Program

-----Original Message-----
From: jonball@[...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Sessions, William
Subject: 2003 proposed standards for meat marketing claims

I have read about the proposed standards, and I've seen
many of the public comments sent to USDA. I cannot find
anything to indicate if the standards were adopted.
Were the standards as proposed in 2003 adopted?

Thanks in advance.
Jonathan Ball
Pasadena, CA
___________________________________________________
Jonathan Ball aka Rudy Canoza 08 Sep 2005 http://bit.ly/2cYknsh
[end]

Jonathan Ball. Pasadena, CA. Priceless! That email, posted from Jonathan
Ball,
you, and the return email sent to Jonathan Ball proves beyond all doubt that
you are Jonathan Ball. Of course, you don't live in Pasadena since moving to
5327 Shepard Ave Sacramento, CA 95819-1731

Here's the proof Jonathan D Ball http://bit.ly/1LFy9t8

> and I won't die soon.

Yeah you will. You're an old man who hasn't looked after himself. I wouldn't
go around goading people if I was as small and as puny as you are, liar Jon.
You ought to be very careful.

> You certainly have no means to hasten my death.

Are you really serious, weed? you're just over 5 feet tall and 64 years old.
You'll be 65 on December 2nd. You've got to stop threatening people and
goading them to come after you. You're pathetic.

[Enki]

[SeaSnake]

On 8/9/2017 8:15 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> In other words, it can't catch fraudulent voters if they vote in
> multiple jurisdictions, unless they fail to vote in a four year
> period.
>
> Which makes the whole thing moot as a device to prevent multiple votes
> in multiple states.

Sounds like something that needs to be smart ID'd.

End of problem.

[Gunner Asch]

Budda Bing!!!

We have a winner!

And Fast Eddy loses again.


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[Tom Gardner]

On 8/8/2017 11:33 AM, SeaSnake wrote:
>>>
>>
>> So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have?
>> You do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect, don't you?
>
> You do realize that the respect of fools is a foolish thing.
>
>

> ---


As you have demonstrated so well.

[Tom Gardner]

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>

FYI, Ed and I differ in most political points and not to long ago we
declared a truce to stop the nastiness. (short form)

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 09 Aug 2017 13:01:33 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 05:50:17 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"
><dca...@krl.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> No, there has been no such "restriction." Tell us about nationwide
>>> laws that say you have to de-register when you move from one state to
>>> another.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>The National Voter Registration Act Of 1993
>>
>> Dan
>
>Budda Bing!!!
>
>We have a winner!
>
>And Fast Eddy loses again.

Gunner, you dimwit, the NVRA doesn't say you have to de-register.
Individuals don't have to do anything. What I pointed out to Dan is
that, in fact, if you vote in two states at least every four years,
the states will never even know you're registered in multiple states.

Man, you keep putting your foot in it again and again. Why don't you
try learning what you're talking about before making a fool of
yourself?

--
Ed Huntress

[dca...@krl.org]

It says you have to have a system to remove from the voter rolls voters that have become ineligible. You either have a system or you are not in compliance.

Under the NVRA, States must have a general program
that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of
voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of
address.

What part of this do you not understand?

Dan

[SeaSnake]

On 8/9/2017 2:20 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
> On 8/8/2017 11:33 AM, SeaSnake wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have?
>>> You do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect, don't
>>> you?
>>
>> You do realize that the respect of fools is a foolish thing.
>>
>>
>> ---
>
>
> As you have demonstrated so well.
>

Indeed, fools like you do not respect me!


I can live with that.

[SeaSnake]

But Crazy Eddy lives for nastiness.

You must really have PWND him big time.

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT), "dca...@krl.org"

Whoa. I thought you understood there was no requirement from what I
posted about the Act. Apparently not. So here's the exchange again:

[Dan]

>>I am of the opinion that there has always been a restriction on being registered to vote in multiple areas. So how is actually enforcing that is unprecedented.

[Ed]

>No, there has been no such "restriction." Tell us about nationwide
>laws that say you have to de-register when you move from one state to
>another.

[Dan]

> National Voter Registration Act Of 1993

The NVRA does NOT say you have to de-register. It has no such
requirement.

Did you read the Act? Probably not. I did, as I always do to
double-check my facts.

You're off base here, Dan. There is no requirement for individuals to
de-register. In fact, as I pointed out in another post, the provisions
of the Act won't even catch you if you vote in multiple states at
least every four years. If you do that, you don't have to return the
postcards the states are supposed to send out.

But let me emphasize this again: The NVRA does NOT require that you
de-register when you leave one state and register in your new state.
And that's what I said above.

Tell Gunner. He could use some education. <g>

>> >
>> >The same applies to illegal immagrants.
>> >
>> >There is a requirment, but not much compliance.
>>
>> There are two problems with this "requirement." First, states can't
>> remove someone for four years after they question a residency by the
>> mail survey procedure described in the Act..
>>
>> Second, and stemming from the first point, they can't remove someone
>> even if they don't return the confirmation postcard, if they DO vote
>> in the subsequent four years.
>>
>> In other words, it can't catch fraudulent voters if they vote in
>> multiple jurisdictions, unless they fail to vote in a four year
>> period.
>>
>> Which makes the whole thing moot as a device to prevent multiple votes
>> in multiple states.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
>It says you have to have a system to remove from the voter rolls voters that have become ineligible. You either have a system or you are not in compliance.
>
>
>Under the NVRA, States must have a general program
>that makes a reasonable effort to identify and remove the names of
>voters who have become ineligible to vote by means of a change of
>address.
>
>What part of this do you not understand?
>
> Dan

That does not say that individuals have to de-register, which is what
I said. It explains what the states are supposed to do to remove
various kinds of ineligible voters.

It says nothing about "de-registering." Your response
was...ah...non-responsive. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

[Scout]

"SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message

news:omfcfe$1ei$1...@news.mixmin.net...

> On 8/8/2017 9:28 PM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message
>> news:omclks$dhh$6...@news.mixmin.net...
>>> On 8/7/2017 9:14 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>> On 8/7/2017 11:37 AM, Seaview wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I retract my comment then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom is one of the half-dozen or so people here who has some common
>>>>>> sense and decency, and the common courage to use his real name.
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> why we get along, despite some political differences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aw, isn't that cozy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now ESAD cuntdress.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have?
>>>> You do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect, don't
>>>> you?
>>>
>>> You do realize that the respect of fools is a foolish thing.
>>
>> It's not only fools who judge you based on your behavior and attitude....
>>
>>
> Of course not, it's judgemental people, period.

Right, and you expect people to NOT judge you based on your behavior......

Makes me wonder what planet you're living on.

[SeaSnake]

On 8/10/2017 3:15 AM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message
> news:omfcfe$1ei$1...@news.mixmin.net...
>> On 8/8/2017 9:28 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message
>>> news:omclks$dhh$6...@news.mixmin.net...
>>>> On 8/7/2017 9:14 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>>>>> On 8/7/2017 11:37 AM, Seaview wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, I retract my comment then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom is one of the half-dozen or so people here who has some common
>>>>>>> sense and decency, and the common courage to use his real name.
>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>> why we get along, despite some political differences.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aw, isn't that cozy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now ESAD cuntdress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So.acting like a young child fulfills just what need that you have?
>>>>> You do realize that you loose all credibility and any respect,
>>>>> don't you?
>>>>
>>>> You do realize that the respect of fools is a foolish thing.
>>>
>>> It's not only fools who judge you based on your behavior and
>>> attitude....
>>>
>>>
>> Of course not, it's judgemental people, period.
>
> Right, and you expect people to NOT judge you based on your behavior......

No, I expect them TO judge, regardless.

That's what humans always do.

> Makes me wonder what planet you're living on.

Sadly, this one...

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

Why not make yourself AND everyone else happy, then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_methods

[SeaSnake]

That's a sloppy substitute for space travel.

[Gunner Asch]

Makes me wonder what Home he is living in.

Internet "therapy" might be working to keep him out of a fetal
position and functioning beyond "lump" status..but it sure makes it
funny for the rest of us to read what comes out of his mouth.
Mostly..bile and spittle...shrug


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[SeaSnake]

Like "da Geezer"?

Lol.

> Internet "therapy" might be working to keep him out of a fetal
> position and functioning beyond "lump" status..but it sure makes it
> funny for the rest of us to read what comes out of his mouth.
> Mostly..bile and spittle...shrug

We aim to please, so please, won't you aim too!

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

It will work.

[SeaSnake]

So would teleportation, bzzz...

[Scout]

"SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message

news:omiace$tfh$2...@news.mixmin.net...

You just need enough power. Best way is to climb one of the big power lines
and grab hold of the wire and the tower at the same time. If you do it just
right, you will teleport.

[Scout]

"SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message

news:omhsdq$7sd$1...@news.mixmin.net...

So talking about judgmental people is really you talking about all people..

>
>> Makes me wonder what planet you're living on.
>
> Sadly, this one...

I agree, it's certainly sad you're on this planet.

[Scout]

"SeaSnake" <hydro...@n.ae> wrote in message

news:omhu9h$blq$2...@news.mixmin.net...

Na....it's just phase 1. In phase two we break you down into elemental
matter. Then in phase 3 you get launched into space.

[Gunner Asch]

It will be a bit expensive to remove him FROM the planet..but he can
be placed "within" the planet, easily enough.

[Scout]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:l4dqoctl273ph218r...@4ax.com...

Hey, as long as he's willing to pay for it why shouldn't we send him into
outer space?

[SeaSnake]

Of course, in fact all animals as well.

>>> Makes me wonder what planet you're living on.
>>
>> Sadly, this one...
>
> I agree, it's certainly sad you're on this planet.

Buck up little camper, I may even allow you to stay a while longer if
you show some basic respect.

Otherwise...

[SeaSnake]

---yawn---

[SeaSnake]

The Madman Markam equation ?

You should look that up, scooter.

[SeaSnake]

Ekshually not.

But feel free to try if you want a quick exit.

[Curt Portland]

Elon Musk has to get the accommodations ready first.