On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 00:54:32 -0700, Gunner Asch <
gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:34:54 -0600, rbowman <
bow...@montana.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 06/26/2016 04:10 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>> You're the one with the liberal positions. You may not realize it.
>>> Trump populists are doing this every day, and they have no idea that
>>> they're blaming conservative policies for their problems, while
>>> blaming liberals for those conservative policies.
>>
>>It's time to get over all that 'liberal' and 'conservative' bullshit.
>>The oligarchs love it when the great unwashed lose themselves in
>>political labels like the fans of some football club.
>
>Now that I set it up....lets look at what you consider to be
>"bullshit", shall we?
What..no comments from our Leftwing Bretheren?
ROFLMAO!!!
>
>
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Constitution_Issues/republic-vs-socialist.html
>
>The America Republic -vs- Socialist America
>
>"Conservatives want a Constitutional Government in the US. That's
>all!"
>
>J. D. Longstreet
>March 8, 2009
>Look at the title of this piece again. Read it closely... and let it
>sink in.
>
>The difference between Conservative Government and a Socialist
>Government (that of the American Left) when shaken down to its raw
>essentials will make, or break, the United States of America.
>
>The American Democrat Party, which is, in truth, the socialist party,
>does not see it that way. Actually they do see it that way, but the
>problem they have is that they cannot exist under a Constitutional
>government in the US. Freedom and Socialism cannot exist in the same
>place, much like "Matter" and "Anti-Matter". And therein lies the
>problem, which is rotting away at the foundation of the United States.
>
>Let me see if I can break it down a bit more:
>
>Under a Constitutional government, the power of the government is
>limited. Limited government allows the citizens to rule their country.
>
>Under the Socialist brand of government, sometimes called an
>"Administrative state", citizens do not rule their country,
>bureaucrats do, and with them the elite intellectuals. At least THEY
>think they are elite!
>
>The United States was founded as a free country. Its citizens were
>autonomous. They were free. The US had a free economy. That was the
>way the designers of this land, the Founding Fathers, planned it. And
>it worked… right up to the dawn of "Socialism in American" during the
>reign of, and as the direct results of actions taken by, Franklin
>Delano Roosevelt. It has been downhill for America ever since.
>
>Socialism is a creeping disease. It is quiet and deadly. It offers
>much and deliver almost nothing.
>
>Simply put, Socialism is a trade off. A people must give up freedom
>for security. It is just that simple. IF you would be a free people,
>then you cannot allow socialism, in any form, in your country's
>government. If, on the other hand, you wish to be secure, from want
>and fear, then you absolutely MUST give up your freedom. That is the
>choice.
>
>The American Left is the driving force behind socialism in America.
>Lets be clear: Socialism is anti-American.
>
>The Founding Fathers did not give us a socialist state; they gave us a
>Representative Republic. America is NOT a Democracy as you may have
>been taught in school. America is a representative republic.
>
>Look… Americans , indeed, human beings, are not equal. A stroll down
>any beach, on a hot summer day, will give the lie to that! And the
>Founding Fathers knew that. That was not what they meant when they
>noted in "The Declaration" that "all men are created equal". They were
>referring to those inalienable rights, and natural rights, which are
>the endowment of all mankind as a gift from our Creator. So they set
>about designing a form of government, which would balance freedom and
>equality in a state, which would allow both. That was a near
>impossible task, if not entirely impossible. But they made a grand
>attempt at it and it worked right up 'til the FDR Administration.
>
>You see, under the original Constitution, the people of the United
>States were, indeed, a free people. We were autonomous. And… WE were
>sovereign. The Government was created, by the Founding Fathers, to be
>a servant of the people of the U.S.
>
>Roosevelt and the American Left didn't see it that way and they began
>to change it. There had been, previously, a contract, a covenant, if
>you will, between the American people and the American government
>under which the American people would grant the American government
>certain powers… while at the same time granting themselves certain
>rights. The government had no power of it's own, All government power
>was derived from the people and the government could grant themselves
>none.
>
>But Roosevelt, and the American Left, changed that. The Left decided
>the agreement, the contract, if you will, between the people of the US
>and their government was backwards. They decided that instead of the
>people deciding the powers granted to the government, the government
>would grasp power and the government would decide the limits of the
>people's freedom and the sovereignty of the people! No longer would
>the people dictate to the government. Now, the government dictates to
>the people. The government is no longer OF the people. It is run, and
>ruled over, by bureaucrats and intellectual elites who know better,
>what you need and want, than you do! What we have today is a
>government running this country, which has never stood for election…
>ever! The elected officials are simply shills of that shadow
>government of bureaucrats and intellectuals who actually pull the
>strings, and push the buttons.
>
>It takes very little thought and consideration to see that this form
>of government is absolutely NOT what the Founding Fathers wanted, and
>planned, for this country.
>
>In effect, what we have had in this country is a coup-de-tat, American
>Style!
>
>To put it plainly, the US government has been hi-jacked!
>
>Those Americans, my age, look around us and we do not recognize this
>socialist state, this welfare state, this "nanny state". It certainly
>is NOT the America of our youth, where a man was free to be what he
>wanted and to suffer the consequences of bad decisions, and bad
>choices, as well as good decisions and good choices.
>
>Equality was understood to mean Equality of Endowment by the Creator.
>Not equality of social status, of income, of education, of well, the
>modern day list goes on and on. Each time a rule, or law, was passed
>to make society more equal… somebody lost. Americans lost. What did we
>lose? Freedom is what we lost.
>
>The American Left has decided they are the elite Americans who know,
>better than you, how you should live your life, worship your God, do
>your job, enjoy your vacation, build your house, drive your car, get
>an education, which doctor you visit, which hospital you select, even
>to the last detail of how you groom your lawn, or whether you can fly
>a US flag outside the home you THINK you own! The American Left is
>into every aspect of your daily life. Because they are convinced that
>you and I, the rabble, the "great unwashed", are not capable of taking
>care of ourselves. No one is required to be responsible for his or her
>actions anymore. It is now understood that when someone commits a
>heinous act, it is not the perpetrator's fault! That is a part of the
>bargain struck with the American Left.
>
>The American Left simply seized the power as a "Beneficent Dictator".
>And Americans allowed it; indeed some welcomed it with open arms! (The
>slow-witted among us, the least ambitious among us, those who sought
>to milk the system for every dime they could, and of course, those who
>sought power for themselves in the New American Socialism.)
>
>What Americans forgot was… that dictators, beneficent or otherwise,
>take your freedom! A dictator cannot exist in a free environment.
>Today's America has become content to allow "others" to govern us, to
>rule over us. We know longer believe ourselves capable of ruling
>ourselves.
>
>The Great Ronald Reagan, in a speech he made in 1964, said the
>following:
>
> "It doesn't require expropriation or confiscation of private
>property or business to impose socialism on a people. What does it
>mean whether you hold the deed or title to your business or property
>if the government holds the power of life and death over that business
>or property? Such machinery already exists. The government can find
>some charge to bring against any concern it chooses to prosecute.
>Every businessman has his own tale of harassment. Somewhere a
>perversion has taken place. Our natural, inalienable, rights are now
>considered to be dispensation of government, and freedom has never
>been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp, as it is at this
>very moment!"
>
>And THAT, dear reader was in 1964!
>
>The American left is slick. They have packaged themselves as loving,
>tolerant, do-gooders, who seek only to make your life easier and to
>make, and keep, you secure. You needn't worry about a thing 'cause
>they have it covered! Americans have bought it… hook, line, and
>sinker. At least those of the baby boom generation have.
>
>Those of us born before World War Two experienced the actual loss of
>our country. We slipped though the Public School System ahead of the
>changes, which "dumbed down an entire generation of American kids"
>while stoking their self-esteem. We came out the other side of the
>American education system aware of the value of a free country. The
>baby boom generation did not. It is entirely the product of the
>American Left.
>
>Today, the New American Socialism reigns supreme. The result? A nation
>in decline! A nation, having not yet reached its zenith, has sold its
>birthright to the devil. Now, America is reaping, what it has sown.
>
>We are quickly becoming a second rate power. Our citizens are among
>the least educated in the world. We no longer have an economy based on
>research, development, and manufacturing, we have only a "service
>economy". We service that which others build! Our society is quite
>likely the most amoral society on earth. It has been said that if God,
>Himself does not destroy us, then HE owes an apology to Sodom and
>Gomorrah! Yes, we, America, have/has become the kind of country to
>which we used to send missionaries!
>
>Oh, yeah, that Baby Boom Generation, the American generation "dumbed
>down" but filled with carefully stoked self-esteem… well, they ran,
>head long, into reality. And… they folded like a cheap suit!
>
>Like a virulent cancer the American Left's brand of socialism is
>eating away the bedrock of America. It is relentlessly chewing away at
>the fabric of what was once the greatest nation on earth. Socialism,
>like the evil that it is, lies. All the promises of "paradise on
>earth" are all lies.
>
>America has bought the Big Lie. The price was freedom. America is no
>longer free. America is, once again, only a dream in the restless
>night of those of us who knew her when she was "that bright shining
>city on a hill". Like Camelot, it was only a passing, ethereal,
>grandiose, dream. A dream the American Left has turned into a
>nightmare. "
>
>
>Was there any other questions?