$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo

[Ray Keller]

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/200-for-a-box-of-22lr-ammo/#axzz2M1m2urKB

$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo
Published on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
Tags:22LR|Ammo Shortage|Democrats War on Guns|Major Van Harl|Survival Gear
By Major Van Harl USAF Ret

$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo
AmmoLand Gun News
Wisconsin --(Ammoland.com)- If you watch the Fox news channel or pick up the
Wall Street Journal you cannot miss all the ads selling gold.
They are trying to convince you that hard times are coming and only gold will
have any real value. The problem is as of today gold is $1612 an ounce and
silver is $31.
Obviously having a gold coin is better than having $1612 dollars in US paper
money in time of crisis if you want to come out on the other end of a bad
situation with something of value. In reality that gold coin will only grow
in value in time of crisis.
I have seen predictions of gold rising in value to as mush as $8000 an ounce.
Sounds great if you are the owner of the gold coin but what can you buy with
an $8000 coin when the basic needed items of food, medicine, and paper
products are not to be found on the store shelves.
If I have a pick up truck full of canned food and you offer me a gold coin
for it, do you really think I am going to be so greedy as to take your overly
inflated gold that I cannot do any thing with and turn over a truck load of
non-perishable food?
Maybe if your neighbor is desperate enough to sell you his land or high value
items like vehicles, gold coins will come in handy in time of crisis if you
want to dabble in speculation as the world is falling down around you. One ad
I am seeing is projecting that silver could go up to $200 an ounce. If you
have $1600 to invest (I am not sure that is the correct word) in a one gold
coin you may want to consider spreading your crisis- purchasing ability into
multiple, less value, but more spendable silver coins.
The one hard and fast rule of personal survivability in time of crisis is
"food and firearms are the only two things of true value."
Really it is food and ammo. There are more firearms in the US then there are
people so other than a man made hoarding situation there will be plenty of
firearms. However a gun is only an expensive boat anchor if there is no ammo
to shoot out of it.
Have you tried to buy ammo in the past sixty days? The ability of find any
handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay as much
as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223 Remington and
308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two months
ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of twenty.
This is pure manmade panic buying. I have been writing for over five years
about the volatility of ammo availability and price, now the chickens have
come home to roost.
This is not a natural, disaster driven crisis that makes the public go out
and desperately seek guns and ammo because the world is coming to an end.
This is purely a politically driven Bravo Sierra (BS) manmade panic buying
problem.
However what it is, is an excellent training tool for those who continue to
sit on the fence of personal protection and support of the Constitution. The
bad guys under the "Klingon Cloaking Devise" of elected politicians
(primarily Democrats) are after your firearms and more importantly your
Constitutional rights under the 2nd Amendment. You may believe it is someone
else's job to do all the heavy lifting in protecting you from evil.
If weakness is the basis you want to build your life and the safety of your
family on so be it, but how dare you expect someone else to risk their life
to rush in and save you because you refused to prepare.
In time of real crisis I project a 50 round box of 22lr ammo will trade for
the current value of an ounce of silver. So if silver is $200 an ounce that
will make a 22lr bullet worth $4 a round. If you think I am off the mark go
out and try to buy a box of 22lr ammo today. Today's ammo crisis is not real,
but there is no 22lr to be found and that is real.
As Obama says, "this is a teachable moment." Learn, prepare and get busy
buying the right tools for the job. Your job is to defend your family.
Major Van Harl USAF Ret
van...@aol.com
About Major Van Harl USAF Ret.:
Major Van E. Harl USAF Ret. , is a career Police Officer in the U.S. Air
Force was born in Burlington, Iowa, USA, in 1955. He was the Deputy Chief of
police at two Air Force Bases and the Commander of Law Enforcement Operations
at another. Now retired, these days he enjoys camping, traveling,
volunteering with the Girl Scouts and writing. van...@aol.com

[King of Country of What]

On 2/26/2013 11:49 AM, Ray Keller wrote:
>
> The ability of find any
> handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay as much
> as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223 Remington and
> 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
> A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two months
> ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of twenty.
> This is pure manmade panic buying.

You fucking morons.

Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
imbeciles around !

hhahahahahah .


Capitalism at it's best -- making hordes of money from
morons living in fear - their is NO honor among thieves ..
and gun dealers .. LOL .. THEY ARE ROBBING YOU BLIND !
and you blame on democrats !


STUDY THIS YOU FUCKING MORONS: http://www.twitpic.com/8zi369/full

See the guy on the LEFT --- HE IS A GUN DEALER !


Hahahahahaahaha


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[Jeff M]

On 2/26/2013 3:45 PM, King of Country of What wrote:
> On 2/26/2013 11:49 AM, Ray Keller wrote:
>>
>> The ability of find any
>> handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay
>> as much
>> as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223
>> Remington and
>> 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
>> A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two
>> months
>> ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of twenty.
>> This is pure manmade panic buying.
>
> You fucking morons.
>
> Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
> their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
> imbeciles around !

I believe Keller has his facts right on this one. Military calibers in
particular seem to be in short supply, and prices are rising, all the
result of panic buying, compounded by large government and military
purchases.

[King of Country of What]

Boo hoo;

Capitalism sucks.

[Wayne]

"King of Country of What" wrote in message
news:512d2cfb$0$10404$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...

On 2/26/2013 11:49 AM, Ray Keller wrote:
>
> The ability of find any
> handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay as
> much
> as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223 Remington
> and
> 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
> A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two
> months
> ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of twenty.
> This is pure manmade panic buying.

# You fucking morons.

# Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
# their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
# imbeciles around !

Unarmed gun grabbers are actually the first to be separated from their
money. And their food, water, and shelter.

[Steve from Colorado]

There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing. Savage says
the shortages are being deliberately created by the Feds who are
purchasing almost all current and future production of most calibers of
ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good
interview in the last half of the third hour of the radio broadcast at
www.infowars.com. You can either stream the show all day or download
the podcast to your hard drive. Dr. Savage is saying that the Obama
Administration is waging war on the American people, especially White,
Christian males. Savage offers several other insights into what's
happening to our country that are quite profound, IMHO.

[Richard]

On 2/26/2013 5:13 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing. Savage says
> the shortages are being deliberately created by the Feds who are
> purchasing almost all current and future production of most calibers of
> ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good
> interview in the last half of the third hour of the radio broadcast at
> www.infowars.com. You can either stream the show all day or download the
> podcast to your hard drive. Dr. Savage is saying that the Obama
> Administration is waging war on the American people, especially White,
> Christian males. Savage offers several other insights into what's
> happening to our country that are quite profound, IMHO.

Profound me with some insight?

[Steve from Colorado]

Give a listen to what Dr. Savage is revealing on Infowars dot com. What
Savage is saying is tantamount to Divine Illumination.

[Gunner]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:03:10 -0800, "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net>
wrote:

and their lives.


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[Stormin Mormon]

Some grabbers have armed guards.
(Which guards are not all that loyal.)

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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[Stormin Mormon]

Tues Feb 26, 2013
I heard part of this show. It's very possible.
Wonder if some of the ammo companies
will change from govt to citizen contracts?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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.

"Steve from Colorado" <steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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[Work will set you free ! ( just take a shower first)]

On 2/26/2013 5:13 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:

> On 2/26/2013 3:43 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 2/26/2013 3:45 PM, King of Country of What wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2013 11:49 AM, Ray Keller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The ability of find any
>>>> handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay
>>>> as much
>>>> as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223
>>>> Remington and
>>>> 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
>>>> A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two
>>>> months
>>>> ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of
>>>> twenty.
>>>> This is pure manmade panic buying.
>>>
>>> You fucking morons.
>>>
>>> Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
>>> their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
>>> imbeciles around !
>>
>
>>

> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing.

You fucking simpletons -

Those fear peddlers make money off you morons too ..
just like the gun dealers.

Neither of those propagandists could keep a day job
shoveling bullshit .. unless you listen to
them and their bullshit websites .

The entire talk radio crap is a money making scam
to keep the minions scared - and you all fall right in
line.

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[Richard]

I'm quite deaf.
Text preferred.

[Stormin Mormon]

I had a glance at the website. I also like
text. Also am hard of hearing. Sadly, I
didn't see a transcript.

Christopher A. Young
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"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:lbGdnSPWB-

>>> ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good
>>> interview in the last half of the third hour of the radio broadcast at
>>> www.infowars.com. You can either stream the show all day or download the

[Stormin Mormon]

Considering that I've not seen a box of 22LR for
sale in over a year, the present price would be
infinity.

Fortunately, I don't need any. Don't own a gun.

[Richard]

I have a couple thousand rounds.
Bought years ago!

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/26/2013 5:07 PM, Work will set you free ! ( just take a shower

They were fear mongering on the ABC News with Brian Williams saying how
breast cancer is going way up among young women and they don't know why.
You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
Japan do you? Those "fear mongers" who warned about earthquakes and
tsunamis in Japan were dismissed as cranks and tin foil hat wearing
paranoid morons by people like you prior to 3-11-11. I guess you
consider it even more kooky if people who fear bad stuff actually make
money selling water filters and suchlike, just like ambulance chasing
lawyers at the Southern Poverty Law Center and ACLU do.

[Richard]

On 2/26/2013 7:05 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
> They were fear mongering on the ABC News with Brian Williams saying how
> breast cancer is going way up among young women and they don't know why.
> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
> Japan do you? Those "fear mongers" who warned about earthquakes and
> tsunamis in Japan were dismissed as cranks and tin foil hat wearing
> paranoid morons by people like you prior to 3-11-11. I guess you
> consider it even more kooky if people who fear bad stuff actually make
> money selling water filters and suchlike, just like ambulance chasing
> lawyers at the Southern Poverty Law Center and ACLU do.
>

A lot more likely the junk in our diets...

[Steve from Colorado]

Or those "harmless" airport TSA X ray full body scanners. Or those
speed limit signs that send radar at your car to tell you your speed, as
if you didn't have a speedometer in your car.

[Work will set you free ! ( just take a shower first)]

On 2/26/2013 7:05 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
>>>>> their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
>>>>> imbeciles around !
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
>>> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing.
>>
>> You fucking simpletons -
>>
>> Those fear peddlers make money off you morons too ..
>> just like the gun dealers.
>>
>> Neither of those propagandists could keep a day job
>> shoveling bullshit .. unless you listen to
>> them and their bullshit websites .
>>
>> The entire talk radio crap is a money making scam
>> to keep the minions scared - and you all fall right in
>> line.
>>
>> pathetic
>>
>
> They were fear mongering on the ABC News with Brian Williams saying how
> breast cancer is going way up among young women and they don't know why.

Science is awful ; yet simpletons stockpile weapons waiting
for a end of the world and black helicopters that will never come .

> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
> Japan do you?

Were those women in Japan .. or Iowa ?

[Ray Keller]

Jeftard the Disbarred lawyer admits he is a lier
On the other hand, the AVVO and Florida Bar information is factual and about
him

The Florida State Bar only lists one Jeff McCann and he is disbarred


http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/1E2018ED1F7A362185256D950064C0A5?OpenDocument

Jeffrey Allen McCann
SuspendedNot eligible to practice in Florida


ID Number:-647004
Address:4371 Northlake Blvd # 249
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida 334106253
United States
Phone:561.839.5307

E-Mail:jmla...@gmail.com
vCard:

County:Palm Beach
Circuit:15
Admitted:08/06/2003

10-Year Discipline HistoryYes

Action DateReference
Suspension01-04-2012201250658
Suspended - with Conditions04-20-2012201290120

Law School:Nova Southeastern University - Shepard Broad Law Center
Graduation Year:2002
Degree:Doctor of Jurisprudence/Juris Doctor

Firm:The Mccann Firm P.A.
Services:ADA accessible client services




http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/33401-fl-jeffrey-mccann-1295730.html
Jeffrey Allen McCann
Avvo Rating 1.0 Extreme Caution
This lawyer has been disciplined by a state licensing authority.
State Citation type Year cited Last
updated by Avvo
Florida Suspended - with Conditions 2012 12/19/2012
Florida Suspension 2012






2A is the right to shoot tyrants, not deer.

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/26/2013 6:39 PM, Work will set you free ! ( just take a shower

first) wrote:
> On 2/26/2013 7:05 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
>>>>>> their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
>>>>>> imbeciles around !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
>>>> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing.
>>>
>>> You fucking simpletons -
>>>
>>> Those fear peddlers make money off you morons too ..
>>> just like the gun dealers.
>>>
>>> Neither of those propagandists could keep a day job
>>> shoveling bullshit .. unless you listen to
>>> them and their bullshit websites .
>>>
>>> The entire talk radio crap is a money making scam
>>> to keep the minions scared - and you all fall right in
>>> line.
>>>
>>> pathetic
>>>
>>
>> They were fear mongering on the ABC News with Brian Williams saying how
>> breast cancer is going way up among young women and they don't know why.
>
> Science is awful ; yet simpletons stockpile weapons waiting
> for a end of the world and black helicopters that will never come .

Freedom means freedom to stockpile (sic) weapons for any reason anyone
can think of. Come to think of it, the Federal government is
stockpiling bullets and weapons like it was preparing for war against
the American people. According to you, then, we're ruled by simpletons.

>
>> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
>> Japan do you?
>
> Were those women in Japan .. or Iowa ?
>
>

North America, not Japan.

[Loon Scare: Agenda 21]

On 2/26/2013 7:52 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> the Federal government is
> stockpiling bullets and weapons like it was preparing for war against
> the American people.

The *only* source you have for that is the gun dealers
and fear mongers like Jones who sell you more ammo.


LOL

>>
>>> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
>>> Japan do you?
>>
>> Were those women in Japan .. or Iowa ?
>>
>>
> North America, not Japan.

Which part ? if Japan's meltdown had anything to do with it,
only those areas who lay in the jet stream or water would be ,
and 2 years is not near long enough for cancer to development.
You would also see types of cancer across the entire population,
not just in women.


We know rightards lack in critical thinking skills so try to
keep up.



boo




--
"UN Agenda 21 - Coming to a Neighborhood near You , SOON"

[Michael A. Terrell]

Or how poor healthcare will be under Obama the first.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
> Or those "harmless" airport TSA X ray full body scanners. Or those
> speed limit signs that send radar at your car to tell you your speed, as
> if you didn't have a speedometer in your car.

Wow, are you paranoid & ignorant. Just how much power do you think
is in that RADAR pulse? Or in all the automatic door openers at stores,
office & government buildings?

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/26/2013 7:27 PM, Loon Scare: Agenda 21 wrote:
> On 2/26/2013 7:52 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>> the Federal government is
>> stockpiling bullets and weapons like it was preparing for war against
>> the American people.
>
>
> The *only* source you have for that is the gun dealers
> and fear mongers like Jones who sell you more ammo.
>

DHS and even the IRS have made known they are purchasing enough billions
of rounds of ammo to put dozens of hollow point bullets through every
American.

>
> LOL
>
>
>>>
>>>> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
>>>> Japan do you?
>>>
>>> Were those women in Japan .. or Iowa ?
>>>
>>>
>> North America, not Japan.
>
>
> Which part ? if Japan's meltdown had anything to do with it,
> only those areas who lay in the jet stream or water would be ,
> and 2 years is not near long enough for cancer to development.
> You would also see types of cancer across the entire population,
> not just in women.

So it proves that Brian Williams and ABC are fear mongering with their
scare stories about the spike in breast cancers among 25 to 34 year old
women. ABC must see the high ratings Alex Jones gets so they want to
imitate his format to drive up their own ratings.

[Gunner]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:07:44 -0600, "Work will set you free ! ( just
take a shower first)" <aj...@gsici.com> wrote:

>>
>>>
>> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
>> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing.
>
> You fucking simpletons -
>
> Those fear peddlers make money off you morons too ..
> just like the gun dealers.
>
> Neither of those propagandists could keep a day job
> shoveling bullshit .. unless you listen to
> them and their bullshit websites .
>
> The entire talk radio crap is a money making scam
> to keep the minions scared - and you all fall right in
> line.
>
> pathetic

so what are they selling? We know what the Obamassiah and his ilk are
peddling.

Speak up, tell us all about it.

Gunner

[Gunner]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:18:08 -0600, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

You eat junk? How do they force it down your throat?

[Gunner]

So little it has zero effect on the smallest insects, let alone humans

[FirstPost]

Ummm. Not fer nuthin', but look around. we are indeed ruled by
simpletons.

But that particular point has little to do with buying bullets.
Ammo sales of late are a logical progression.
Government starts yammering about bans and heavy regulation.
People that own guns know that without ammo their guns are useless.
People see all over the media that some senators and representatives
are truly serious about trying to ban guns and ammo.
People that own guns decide better safe than sorry and purchase as
much ammo as they can just in case one of the ludicrous bills being
talked about by the politicians actually passes.
Most folks that are buying the ammo are not the nutcase end of world
preppers people keep talking about. Many are just plain folk that
only decided to stock up more because of the rhetoric being tossed
around by Obama, Feinstein and the like.

[FirstPost]

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[FirstPost]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:07:44 -0600, "Work will set you free ! ( just
take a shower first)" <aj...@gsici.com>74.194.236.11 changed
nyms again and lied:

More bullshit, more lies, nothing of any real consequence to the
discussion as usual.
Just a stupid pathetic attempt to get attention by an unintelligent no
talent inconsequential troll.

[Oglethorpe]

"Steve from Colorado" <steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote in message
news:kgjfhl$ntj$1...@dont-email.me...

> On 2/26/2013 3:43 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 2/26/2013 3:45 PM, King of Country of What wrote:
>>> On 2/26/2013 11:49 AM, Ray Keller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The ability of find any
>>>> handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay
>>>> as much
>>>> as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223
>>>> Remington and
>>>> 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.
>>>> A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two
>>>> months
>>>> ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of
>>>> twenty.
>>>> This is pure manmade panic buying.
>>>
>>> You fucking morons.
>>>

>>> Fools and NRA backed terrorist are quickly separated from
>>> their money and you gun huggers are the largest pool of
>>> imbeciles around !
>>

>> I believe Keller has his facts right on this one. Military calibers in
>> particular seem to be in short supply, and prices are rising, all the
>> result of panic buying, compounded by large government and military
>> purchases.

>>
>>
>>
> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones

> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing. Savage says
> the shortages are being deliberately created by the Feds who are
> purchasing almost all current and future production of most calibers of

> ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good
> interview in the last half of the third hour of the radio broadcast at
> www.infowars.com. You can either stream the show all day or download the

> podcast to your hard drive. Dr. Savage is saying that the Obama
> Administration is waging war on the American people, especially White,
> Christian males. Savage offers several other insights into what's
> happening to our country that are quite profound, IMHO.

Sounds like time to start a cottage industry of cartridge making.

[Ed Huntress]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:18:48 -0800, "Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com>
wrote:

But the real money is in the talk shows...

--
Ed Huntress

[Gunner]

Would that also be like exploding gas tanks in GM trucks?

Or the Bush Deserted rant?

Ask Dan Rather about that one..will you?

Gunner

[Richard]

On 2/26/2013 10:37 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>
>>> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
>>> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing. Savage says
>>> the shortages are being deliberately created by the Feds who are
>>> purchasing almost all current and future production of most calibers of
>>> ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good
>>> interview in the last half of the third hour of the radio broadcast at
>>> www.infowars.com. You can either stream the show all day or download the
>>> podcast to your hard drive. Dr. Savage is saying that the Obama
>>> Administration is waging war on the American people, especially White,
>>> Christian males. Savage offers several other insights into what's
>>> happening to our country that are quite profound, IMHO.
>>
>> Sounds like time to start a cottage industry of cartridge making.
>
> But the real money is in the talk shows...
>

A random neuron awoke briefly...

Vandenburg: A Novel - by Oliver Lange

IIRC, the Soviets gassed Washington DC (don't even go there) and took
over the radio and TV stations. They used TV and radio to tell the
population ALMOST what was happening and advised them to "stay indoors
and stay tuned for further news".

That always struck me as quite a workable scenario...




Synopsis:
One should remember that the publication date (1971) marked the
beginning of the lowest point for America in the Cold War. Not only was
communism advancing in Asia, Africa and the Western Hemisphere but large
segments of academia and the intellectual world seemed intent on
wounding the national psyche. Vandenberg, the hero of the novel, notes
that the West was already defeated psychological before it was defeated
militarily. The journal containing his musings is a key element in the
story.

The book is far more than resistance to a Soviet takeover. In fact,
resistance itself plays a small part of the book. It is an exploration
of those who choose not to give in. There is a wonderful relationship
between Vandenberg and his son, Kevin, who is retarded. The internal
battles that each person must make concerning their own course of action
are constant. This is not a view with rose-colored glasses.

There is no mass resistance because people have chosen to accommodate.
The ending is in doubt, lingering, somewhat depressing...a terrific tale
of hope, loyalty and love.

[Stormin Mormon]

If it gets worse, may I come to your place and
borrow a gun? You won't have to teach me to
shoot, I used to play with capguns when I was
a boy.

Christopher A. Young
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"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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[Stormin Mormon]

A generation or two back, we sent elected
representatives to government. Now, we have
"Our Nation's Leaders". Worse, the folks
on the right (who are supposed to be for the
Constitution, and for limited government) go
right along with the posture shift.

Christopher A. Young
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.

"Steve from Colorado" <steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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[Stormin Mormon]

Ah, it may be poor health care, but think of
all the money we saved by going to single
payer? We can use that to buy ammo at two
hundred bucks a box.

Christopher A. Young
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > They were fear mongering on the ABC
> > News with Brian Williams saying how
> > breast cancer is going way up among
> > young women and they don't know why.

>

[Stormin Mormon]

Like gun making in Pakistan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpURk1E3Q9c

Christopher A. Young
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"Oglethorpe" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing. Savage says
> the shortages are being deliberately created by the Feds who are
> purchasing almost all current and future production of most calibers of
> ammo in order to have de facto ending of the 2nd Amendment. It's a good

[Michael A. Terrell]

Gunner wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:38:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Steve from Colorado wrote:
> >>
> >> Or those "harmless" airport TSA X ray full body scanners. Or those
> >> speed limit signs that send radar at your car to tell you your speed, as
> >> if you didn't have a speedometer in your car.
> >
> >
> > Wow, are you paranoid & ignorant. Just how much power do you think
> >is in that RADAR pulse? Or in all the automatic door openers at stores,
> >office & government buildings?
>
> So little it has zero effect on the smallest insects, let alone humans

But it causes incurable brain cancer in idiots. ;-)

[Michael A. Terrell]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> Ah, it may be poor health care, but think of
> all the money we saved by going to single
> payer? We can use that to buy ammo at two
> hundred bucks a box.

What good will ammo do when you die because of people who got a
medical degree by quota and who don't need malpractice insurance?

[Richard]

On 2/27/2013 3:31 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> If it gets worse, may I come to your place and
> borrow a gun? You won't have to teach me to
> shoot, I used to play with capguns when I was
> a boy.
>

Sure Christopher.
First lesson is - we don't shoot AT things.
That's for those who miss.

[CanopyCo]

On Feb 26, 9:09 pm, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:07:44 -0600, "Work will set you free ! ( just
> take a shower first)" <aj...@gsici.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> There's a very good interview on Alex Jones' show today where Jones
> >> interviews Michael Savage and they discuss this very thing.
>
> >   You fucking simpletons -
>
> >   Those fear peddlers make money off you morons too ..
> >   just like the gun dealers.
>
> >   Neither of those propagandists could keep a day job
> >   shoveling bullshit .. unless you listen to
> >   them and their bullshit websites .
>
> >   The entire talk radio crap is a money making scam
> >   to keep the minions scared - and you all fall right in
> >   line.
>
> >   pathetic
>
> so what are they selling?  We know what the Obamassiah and his ilk are
> peddling.
>
> Speak up, tell us all about it.
>
> Gunner
>

They get paid to tell you this shit.
You don’t really think that they talk on the radio for free do you?
Tell the people what they want to hear and they will keep listening to
you.
People listening to you is what gets you a spot on the air.

[CanopyCo]

On Feb 26, 9:09 pm, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:18:08 -0600, Richard <cavel...@earthlink.net>

> wrote:
>
> >On 2/26/2013 7:05 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
> >> They were fear mongering on the ABC News with Brian Williams saying how
> >> breast cancer is going way up among young women and they don't know why.
> >> You don't suppose it's because of that nuclear meltdown going on in
> >> Japan do you? Those "fear mongers" who warned about earthquakes and
> >> tsunamis in Japan were dismissed as cranks and tin foil hat wearing
> >> paranoid morons by people like you prior to 3-11-11. I guess you
> >> consider it even more kooky if people who fear bad stuff actually make
> >> money selling water filters and suchlike, just like ambulance chasing
> >> lawyers at the Southern Poverty Law Center and ACLU do.
>
> >A lot more likely the junk in our diets...
>
> You eat junk?  How do they force it down your throat?
>

Simple.
Make fresh food unavailable due to price or other factors.
Then put lots of junk in the processed food.
Considering that the processed food is all that many can afford, you
get lots of junk.

I bet you haven’t looked at the price of fresh unaltered food that
didn’t come from the radioactive west coast.
Fresh unpasteurized milk, fresh vegetables that don’t have pesticides
or other contaminates or genetic alteration, free range eggs and meat,
grass fed beef, ect.

Then there is the factor that most no longer know how to process fresh
food like grain, as it hasn’t been done in normal household setting in
nearly 100 years.

[Stormin Mormon]

Years ago, I heard that Xrays and radiation damage
is cumulative. So, the highest doses would be found
in mall shoppers, people who do a lot of driving and
flying. And people who get TSA scanned often.

Christopher A. Young
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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[Stormin Mormon]

That's racist!

Besides, they won't die of quota diplomas, but
by funding cuts due to faceless bureocrats who
won't let the quota doctor prescribe what is
really needed.

Christopher A. Young
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.

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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[Stormin Mormon]

Oh, goodness. I'm learning already. I'll be
Wyatt Burp in a few days, with my low slung,
tied down eight shooter, ready to go to the OK
Corral, and face down the bad guys with the
black hats.

I'm ready for the next lesson.

Christopher A. Young
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.

"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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[Richard]

On 2/27/2013 8:35 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Oh, goodness. I'm learning already. I'll be
> Wyatt Burp in a few days, with my low slung,
> tied down eight shooter, ready to go to the OK
> Corral, and face down the bad guys with the
> black hats.
>
> I'm ready for the next lesson.
>
> Christopher A. Young
>

Ok, never squat with yer spurs on...

[Stormin Mormon]

Of course, the government media wants us only
to worry about the causes they find important.

Nuclear melt down: Good.
Global Warming: Bad.
Government sequester: Panic and run around, screaming.

Christopher A. Young
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"CanopyCo" <Junk...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> so what are they selling? We know what the Obamassiah and his ilk are
> peddling.
>
> Speak up, tell us all about it.
>

[Stormin Mormon]

Oh, that sounds like great wisdom.

What's a spur? Could be a PIA.
We'll have to spur on this conversation.

Christopher A. Young
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"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Wyatt Burp in a few days, with my low slung,
> tied down eight shooter, ready to go to the OK

[rbowman]

Oglethorpe wrote:

> Sounds like time to start a cottage industry of cartridge making.

They aren't making their own components yet but two local cottage industries
have turned into full on businesses going hammer and tongs. A third foreign
manufacturer is setting up in the area and the state legislature is working
on a bill to promote firearm and components manufacturing in the state.
Bring on those environmentally friendly companies.

[Richard]

In general, writers only know how to write a certain number of stories.

The sequester story is a new one for them and they don't know how to
write it.

So, wave arms and scream, "We're all gonna die"!

[Nicholas]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:04:01 -0600, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
>In general, writers only know how to write a certain number of stories.
>
>The sequester story is a new one for them and they don't know how to
>write it.
>
>So, wave arms and scream, "We're all gonna die"!

Yes, we are. Its just a matter of where, when, and how.
Lg

[Steve from Colorado]

Fascinating. Sort of a Red Dawn as envisioned more in the sense that
Invasion of the Body Snatchers captured the so-called Red Menace. I
recall the great fear in Washington of the Siberian gas pipeline feeding
natural gas to Germany was that the Kremlin could conceivably feed some
kind of deadly gas into the pipeline at night while people were
sleeping, perhaps first turning it off so all the pilot lights went out
(in the days before electronic ignition) and then turning the pressure
back up and thereby mass killing people in West Germany.

Actually, the RAND Corporation at that time felt that the Warsaw Pact
could simply invade the West using clubs or baseball bats and defeat the
West, much as the Viet Cong or SWAPO did in Vietnam and Africa.

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/27/2013 2:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> A generation or two back, we sent elected
> representatives to government. Now, we have
> "Our Nation's Leaders". Worse, the folks
> on the right (who are supposed to be for the
> Constitution, and for limited government) go
> right along with the posture shift.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org

NAFTA was the Trojan Horse that was the beginning of the end of our
Constitutional Republic. "Free Trade" is the mantra of the nameless,
faceless bureaucrats who exercise the slow motion demolition of the USA
through eliminating "barriers" to the invasion and takeover of our
nation by opportunistic criminals.

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/27/2013 8:04 AM, Richard wrote:
>
> In general, writers only know how to write a certain number of stories.
>
> The sequester story is a new one for them and they don't know how to
> write it.
>
> So, wave arms and scream, "We're all gonna die"!
>
>
>

Sequestering is a fairy tale to conceal the truth of the matter, which
is that Congress socialized the losses of Wall Street criminals and even
paid bonuses to those criminals for the theft of trillions of dollars
and the looting of pension funds -- so the only places left to loot are
Social Security funds (which George W. Bush attempted to do under the
guise of "privatizing" Social Security). It's the same boiler plate
used to collapse the former Soviet Union and will have the same dire
consequences for tens of millions of Americans that it did for
pensioners and workers in the former USSR. One beneficiary of the
collapse of the USSR seemed to be Israel. I wonder if it will be a safe
haven for Wall Street criminals when "we" go over the fiscal cliff?

[Ed Huntress]

When is this movie going to be seen In Theaters Everywhere?

--
Ed Huntress

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:21:19 -0800 (PST), CanopyCo <Junk...@aol.com>
wrote:

What..thats not the same reward that the Leftwing MSM gets?

I thought they were selling gold mines or platinum bridges in Jersy or
something besides day to day business?

[Michael A. Terrell]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> Years ago, I heard that Xrays and radiation damage
> is cumulative. So, the highest doses would be found
> in mall shoppers, people who do a lot of driving and
> flying. And people who get TSA scanned often.

How about the continuous stream of the same radiation from our sun?

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:30:45 -0800 (PST), CanopyCo <Junk...@aol.com>
wrote:

I live on the West coast. I have at least 5 geiger counters and as a
sampling..have tested all the greens and groceries coming into the
house. No radiation noted. Not even a blip above background.

Now there are no farmers markets around so one can buy uncanned foods?

Fascinating. Which "junk" are they putting in foods these days that
they havent been putting in since the 1930s? MSG?

Or are you guys talking about all the wierd shit they put in diet Mt.
Dew and what not?

Got a suggestion for you....

Dont consume if it its got stuff you dont think is safe.

Pass the word along. There is little chance the food police will be
along to make you eat it. Just a heads up.

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:20:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"

Cancer...hummm.Id doubt that...but ..delusions..Indeed!!

Gunner

[Michael A. Terrell]

Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> That's racist!


What's racist is choosing your student body because they are
minorites, instead of the best qualified.

> Besides, they won't die of quota diplomas, but
> by funding cuts due to faceless bureocrats who
> won't let the quota doctor prescribe what is
> really needed.

It's all going down the LIEberal rathole, along with jobs & the US
credit rating.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Richard wrote:
>
> In general, writers only know how to write a certain number of stories.
>
> The sequester story is a new one for them and they don't know how to
> write it.
>
> So, wave arms and scream, "We're all gonna die"!

Typical Liberal, 'The Sky Is Falling Syndrome'.

[Steve from Colorado]

Who needs a movie when we're immersed in the real drama?

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:55:10 -0700, Steve from Colorado

It must be going on in another time dimension.

--
Ed Huntress

[Steve from Colorado]

On 2/27/2013 10:19 AM, Gunner wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:20:18 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Gunner wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:38:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve from Colorado wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Or those "harmless" airport TSA X ray full body scanners. Or those
>>>>> speed limit signs that send radar at your car to tell you your speed, as
>>>>> if you didn't have a speedometer in your car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, are you paranoid & ignorant. Just how much power do you think
>>>> is in that RADAR pulse? Or in all the automatic door openers at stores,
>>>> office & government buildings?
>>>
>>> So little it has zero effect on the smallest insects, let alone humans
>>
>>
>> But it causes incurable brain cancer in idiots. ;-)
>
>
> Cancer...hummm.Id doubt that...but ..delusions..Indeed!!
>
> Gunner

Ionizing radiation causes cataracts and can even cook meals in a
microwave oven. Cell phones are believed to cause brain tumors by some
researchers. It seems that my having mentioned the nuclear disaster in
Fukushima and its possible long term health effects has brought out the
trolls and now it's all ha ha funny to mention any possible connections
between radiation and cancers. You seem to be relishing that role.

[Richard]

Good grief, Gunner.
You really need to get out more often.
(one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)


Aspartame, BPA, growth hormones and antibiotics in meat, insecticides be
damned, we have genetically modified grain. And genetically modified fish.
High fructose corn syrup in EVERYthing, Petroleum tainted water,


Just flour, the stuff in most baked products:

Potassium bromate (will be listed as an ingredient/additive) - a
maturing agent that strengthens gluten development. Does not bleach.

Benzoyl peroxide - bleaches. Does not act as a maturing agent - no
effect on gluten

Ascorbic acid (Will be listed as an ingredient/additive, but seeing it
in the ingredient list may not be an indication that the flour was
matured using ascorbic acid but instead has had a small amount added as
a dough enhancer) - Maturing agent that strengthens gluten development.
Does not bleach.

Chlorine gas - both a bleaching agent and a maturing agent, but one that
weakens gluten development. Chlorination also oxidizes starches in the
flour, making it easier for the flour to absorb water and swell - this
makes thicker batters and stiffer doughs. For bread, this is bad
(because gluten is weakened and bread is heavily dependent on gluten
formation), but for cakes, cookies, and biscuits, it's a good thing,
because gluten development in these types of baked goods makes them
tough. The modification of starches in the flour allows the use of
wetter doughs (making for a moister end product) without destroying the
structure necessary for light fluffy cakes and biscuits.[9] Chlorinated
flour allows cakes and other baked goods to set faster, rise better, the
fat to be distributed more evenly, with less vulnerability to collapse.

Cake flours in particular are nearly always chlorinated.





Someone is going to say we can grow our own in the back yard.
But they've never tried it.
And there is no way to feed the entire nation that way.



Katsup! (thasa joke, son)
<http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&>

Read the labels! A to Z (well, A to Y anyway)


Acrylamides - Toxic, cancer-causing chemicals formed in foods when
carbohydrates are exposed to high heat (baking, frying, grilling).
They're present in everything from bread crusts to snack chips, and
because they aren't intentional ingredients, acrylamides do NOT have to
be listed on labels.

Aspartame - Chemical sweetener that causes neurological disorders,
seizures, blurred vision and migraine headaches.
(http://www.naturalnews.com/030918_aspartame_GM_bacteria.html)

Autolyzed Proteins - Highly processed form of protein containing free
glutamate and used to mimic the taste-enhancer chemical MSG.

BPA (Bisphenol-A) - A hormone mimicking chemical found in nearly all
food packaging plastics. Active in just parts per billion, BPA promotes
cancer, infertility and hormone disorders. It also "feminizes" males,
promoting male breast growth and hormone disruption
(http://www.naturalnews.com/032860_BPA_feminization.html).

Casein - Milk proteins. Hilariously, this is widely used in "soy cheese"
products that claim to be alternatives to cow's milk. Nearly all of them
are made with cow's milk proteins.

Corn Syrup - Just another name for High Fructose Corn Syrup (see below).
Frequently used in infant formula products
(http://www.naturalnews.com/029863_Similac_infant_formula.html).

Food Colors - FD&C Red #40, for example, is linked to behavioral
disorders in children. Nearly all artificial food colors are derived
from petroleum, and many are contaminated with aluminum.

Genetically Modified Ingredients - Not currently listed on the label
because the GMO industry (Monsanto and DuPont) absolutely does not want
people to know which foods contain GMOs. Nearly all conventionally grown
corn, soy and cotton are GMOs. They're linked to severe infertility
problems and may even cause the bacteria in your body to produce and
release a pesticide in your own gut. If you're not eating organic corn,
you're definitely eating GMO corn.
(http://www.naturalnews.com/026426_GMO_food_GMOs.html) Learn more at
www.ResponsibleTechnology.org or watch my GMO music video (hilarious) at
www.NaturalNews.com/NoGMO

High Fructose Corn Syrup - A highly processed liquid sugar extracted
with the chemical solvent glutaraldehyde and frequently contaminated
with mercury
(http://www.naturalnews.com/032948_high_fructose_corn_syrup_glutaralde...).
It's also linked to diabetes, obesity and mood disorders. Used in
thousands of grocery items, including things you wouldn't suspect like
pizza sauce and salad dressings.

Homogenized Milk - The fats in the milk are artificially modified to
change them into smaller molecules that stay in suspension in the milk
liquid (so the milk fat doesn't separate)
(http://www.naturalnews.com/022967_milk_pasteurization_dairy.html).
While it makes milk look better on the shelf, it's also blamed for
promoting heart disease and may contribute to milk allergies. Raw milk
is healthier, which is why the government had outlawed it
(http://www.naturalnews.com/029322_raw_milk_Amish.html).

Hydrochloride - When you see anything hydrochloride, such as Pyridoxine
Hydrochloride or Thiamin Hydrochloride, those are chemical forms of B
vitamins that companies add to their products to be able to claim higher
RDA values of vitamins. But these are synthetic, chemical forms of
vitamins, not real vitamins from foods or plants. Nutritionally, they
are near-useless and may actually be bad for you. Also watch out for
niacinamide and cyanocobalamin (synthetic vitamin B-12).
(http://www.naturalnews.com/032766_cyanocobalamin_vitamin_B-12.html)

Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein - A highly processed form of (usually) soy
protein that's processed to bring out the free glutamate (MSG). Use as a
taste enhancer.

Partially Hydrogenated Oils - Oils that are modified using a chemical
catalyst to make them stable at room temperature. This creates trans
fatty acids and greatly increases the risk of blocked arteries
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027445_fat_fats_trans.html). It also
promotes what I call "sludge blood," which is thick, viscous blood
that's hard to pump. This is usually diagnosed by doctors as "high blood
pressure" and (stupidly) treated with blood-thinning medications that
are technically the same chemicals as rat poison (warfarin)
(http://www.naturalnews.com/023149_drug_drugs_pharmas.html).

Phosphoric Acid - The acid used in sodas to dissolve the carbon dioxide
and add to the overall fizzy-ness of the soda. Phosphoric acid will eat
steel nails. It's also used by stone masons to etch rocks. The military
uses it to clean the rust off battleships. In absolutely destroys tooth
enamel (http://www.naturalnews.com/021774.html). Search Google Images
for "Mountain Dew Mouth" to see photos of teeth rotted out by phosphoric
acid:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mountain+dew+mouth&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm...

Propylene Glycol - A liquid used in the automotive industry to winterize
RVs. It's also used to make the fake blueberries you see in blueberry
muffins, bagels and breads. (Combined with artificial colors and corn
syrup.) See shocking "Fake Blueberries" video at:
http://www.naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=7EC06D27B1A945BE85E7DA8483025962

Sodium (Salt) - The processed white salt lacking in trace minerals. In
the holistic nutrition industry, we call it "death salt" because it
promotes disease and death. Real salt, on the other hand, such as
"dirty" sea salt or pink Himalayan salt, is loaded with the trace
minerals that prevent disease, such as selenium (cancer), chromium
(diabetes) and zinc (infectious disease). Much like with bread and
sugar, white salt is terrible for your health. And don't be fooled by
claims of "sea salt" in grocery stores. All salt came from the sea if
you go far back enough in geologic time, so they can slap the "sea salt"
claim on ANY salt!

Sodium Nitrite - A cancer-causing red coloring chemical added to bacon,
hot dogs, sausage, beef jerky, ham, lunch meats, pepperoni and nearly
all processed meats. Strongly linked to brain tumors, pancreatic cancers
and colon cancers (http://www.naturalnews.com/007024.html). The USDA
once tried to ban it from the food supply but was out-maneuvered by the
meat industry, which now dominates USDA regulations. Sodium nitrite is a
complete poison used to make meats look fresh. Countless children die of
cancer each year from sodium nitrite-induced cancers.

Soy Protein - The No. 1 protein source used in "protein bars," including
many bars widely consumed by bodybuilders. Soy protein is the "junk
protein" of the food industry. It's made from genetically modified
soybeans (often grown in China) and then subjected to hexane, a chemical
solvent (http://www.naturalnews.com/026303_soy_protein_hexane.html) that
can literally explode.

Sucralose - An artificial chemical sweetener sold as Splenda. The
sucralose molecule contains a chlorine atom
(http://www.naturalnews.com/027491_aspartame_sweeteners_health.html).
Researchers have repeatedly found that artificial sweeteners make people
fat by actually promoting weight gain
(http://www.naturalnews.com/024543_health_Splenda_weight.html).

Sugar - The bleached, nutritionally-deficient byproduct of cane
processing. During sugar cane processing, nearly all the minerals and
vitamins end up in the blackstrap molasses that's usually fed to farm
animals. (Blackstrap molasses is actually the "good" part of sugar cane
juice.) Molasses is often fed to farm animals because every rancher
knows that farm animals need good nutrition to stay alive. Amazingly,
conventional doctors don't yet realize this about humans, and they
continue to claim that eating sugar is perfectly fine for you. Sugar
promotes diabetes, obesity, mood disorders and nutritional deficiencies.

Textured Vegetable Protein - Usually made of soy protein which is
extracted from genetically modified soybeans and then processed using
hexane, an explosive chemical solvent (see Soy Protein, above). Widely
used in vegetarian foods such as "veggie burgers" (most of which also
contain MSG or Yeast Extract, by the way).

Yeast Extract - Hidden form of MSG that contains free glutamate and is
used in many "natural" food products to claim "No MSG!" Yeast extract
contains up to 14% free glutamate. You'll find it in thousands of
grocery store products, from soups to snack chips. I even once spotted
it used on fresh meat!

And the beat goes on....

[Gunner]

Oh...no the folks in Japan are honestly fucked. Sadly
The folks going on about microwave door openers and radar
detectors...are either bug nutz or very ignorant. Sadly


Gunner

[Gunner]

Its already out.

http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

[Richard]

Shouldn't be a problem for the Wall Street guys.

Obama is going to release all the illegal aliens in the jails as a
destraction.

[Richard]

>>> But the real money is in the talk shows...
>>>
>>
>>
>> A random neuron awoke briefly...
>>
>> Vandenburg: A Novel - by Oliver Lange
>>
>> IIRC, the Soviets gassed Washington DC (don't even go there) and took
>> over the radio and TV stations. They used TV and radio to tell the
>> population ALMOST what was happening and advised them to "stay indoors
>> and stay tuned for further news".
>>
>> That always struck me as quite a workable scenario...
>>
>>
>>
>

> Fascinating. Sort of a Red Dawn as envisioned more in the sense that
> Invasion of the Body Snatchers captured the so-called Red Menace.

Actually it was a very good read.
Recommended.

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:55:01 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:46:25 -0500, Ed Huntress
><hunt...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:27:40 -0700, Steve from Colorado
>><steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2/27/2013 2:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>> A generation or two back, we sent elected
>>>> representatives to government. Now, we have
>>>> "Our Nation's Leaders". Worse, the folks
>>>> on the right (who are supposed to be for the
>>>> Constitution, and for limited government) go
>>>> right along with the posture shift.
>>>>
>>>> Christopher A. Young
>>>> Learn more about Jesus
>>>> www.lds.org
>>>
>>>NAFTA was the Trojan Horse that was the beginning of the end of our
>>>Constitutional Republic. "Free Trade" is the mantra of the nameless,
>>>faceless bureaucrats who exercise the slow motion demolition of the USA
>>>through eliminating "barriers" to the invasion and takeover of our
>>>nation by opportunistic criminals.
>>
>>When is this movie going to be seen In Theaters Everywhere?
>
>Its already out.
>
>http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

What's the connection with free trade? And I thought that libertarians
and conservatives were all for it?

--
Ed Huntress

[Steve from Colorado]

Excellent and very informative posting. Thank you.

[Stormin Mormon]

And, we can't find LR ammo at any price.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

.

"Steve from Colorado" <steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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[Stormin Mormon]

Feb 27, 2013
Listening to Sean Hannity show, today.
That has already started. Bunch of I.C.E.
detainees released.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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[Steve from Colorado]

Interpretation: It's not apparent in your mental ward.

[Ray Keller]

"Richard" <cave...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> Good grief, Gunner.
> You really need to get out more often.
> (one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)
>

The nutbags at naturalnews have credibility?
ROTFLMAO

[Ed Huntress]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:41:41 -0700, Steve from Colorado

"World," "world," Steve. That is, the real one.

I thought conservatives and libertarians were real big on free trade?
How would you describe your political philosophy?

--
Ed Huntress

[Richard]

Better than Gunner's!

[RogerN]

>"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message news:6XoXs.1362$DY....@fe46.iad...
>
>Of course, the government media wants us only
>to worry about the causes they find important.
>
>Nuclear melt down: Good.
>Global Warming: Bad.
>Government sequester: Panic and run around, screaming.

>
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org

>.

Speaking of the sequester - actual journalism was spotted for a moment on
CNN. I heard sound clips from an interview with a journalist and someone
from the FAA about the sequester. The FAA was claiming that these budget
cuts would cause delays in flights because they would have to get rid of
some air traffic controllers...

The CNN reporter did their homework, they stated that today there are 27%
fewer flights than there was before 9/11 because of airlines consolidating
flights. The reporter also knew the the FAA budget had risen 41%. So now
with 27% less air traffic, and a 41% increase to the FAA budget, why is a 4%
cut going to cause delays in flights? Why did they get so much budget
increase when the number of flights were going down?

RogerN

[RogerN]

"Ray Keller" wrote in message news:TA6Xs.9102$O52....@newsfe10.iad...

>http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/200-for-a-box-of-22lr-ammo/#axzz2M1m2urKB
>
>$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo
>Published on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
>Tags:22LR|Ammo Shortage|Democrats War on Guns|Major Van Harl|Survival Gear
>By Major Van Harl USAF Ret
>
>$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo
>AmmoLand Gun News
>Wisconsin --(Ammoland.com)- If you watch the Fox news channel or pick up
>the Wall Street Journal you cannot miss all the ads selling gold.
>They are trying to convince you that hard times are coming and only gold
>will have any real value. The problem is as of today gold is $1612 an ounce
>and silver is $31.
<snip>

This is how stupid leftists are - Lefttards claim to want to ban "assault
rifles", so their actions cause this:

Thanks, Obama: U.S. Firearms and Ammunition Production Reaches All-Time High
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2013/02/27/thanks-obama-us-firearms-and-ammunition-production-reaches-alltime-high-n1521795

It's no surprise that the ebb and flow of gun and ammunition production
closely follows the changing political landscape in America. The most
significant peaks in production are seen leading up to the 1994 "Assault
Weapons Ban," and after the election of President Obama. Although he didn't
advance a gun control agenda in his first term, production has been on a
steady and dramatic rise throughout his presidency-reaching an all-time
high.

Since the administration's push for gun control in the wake of Newtown,
however, supply has not been able to keep up with demand. Stag Arms, for
example, is so overwhelmed they've actually stopped taking orders and the
company's president Mark Malkowski says they're not alone-"It's like this
across the industry." While it's good for business for now, if new gun
legislation comes to fruition that could all change.

"This administration represents the most serious threat to the industry
since the 1990s," said Larry Keane, the National Shooting Sports
Foundation's general counsel, referring to Congress' enactment of the
decade-long assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. "The stakes are very
high."

From manufacturing to sales, the overall firearms industry employs nearly
100,000 people in the U.S, providing roughly $4 billion in wages.

[Michael A. Terrell]

Steve from Colorado wrote:
>
> Ionizing radiation causes cataracts and can even cook meals in a
> microwave oven. Cell phones are believed to cause brain tumors by some
> researchers. It seems that my having mentioned the nuclear disaster in
> Fukushima and its possible long term health effects has brought out the
> trolls and now it's all ha ha funny to mention any possible connections
> between radiation and cancers. You seem to be relishing that role.

Who and what was done to you to screw you up so bad? Milliwatts of
RF at the transmitter are microwatts before they reach you. Sadly, you
are a delusional fool.

[Michael A. Terrell]

New electronics & computers to replace the failing '70s vintage junk
that they could no longer rely on.

[Steve from Colorado]

You must be a Black Studies major, or a high school dropout, proving the
old saying that "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing."

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:58:56 -0500, Ed Huntress

Good question Ed..what IS the connection with free trade? NAFTA is
not free trade. Only Partially Free Trade...kinda sorta

Gunner

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:18:15 -0600, "RogerN" <re...@midwest.net>
wrote:

Leftwingers are never familiar with unintended Consequences.

<VBG>

Which works for me.

<VBG>

Say...have they found out yet that they made all the cops guns in New
York illegal yet?
Magazines with 7 round limit...no exceptions...

<VBG>

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:47:41 -0600, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Good grief, Gunner.
>You really need to get out more often.
>(one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)
>
>
>Aspartame, BPA, growth hormones and antibiotics in meat, insecticides be
>damned, we have genetically modified grain. And genetically modified fish.
>High fructose corn syrup in EVERYthing, Petroleum tainted water,

And you cant read the labels????

[Winston_Smith]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:09:39 -0800, Gunner wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:47:41 -0600, Richard wrote:

>>Aspartame, BPA, growth hormones and antibiotics in meat, insecticides be
>>damned, we have genetically modified grain. And genetically modified fish.
>>High fructose corn syrup in EVERYthing, Petroleum tainted water,
>
>And you cant read the labels????

Yes. But I can't control what's on them. No point telling me to vote
with my feet/wallet, the next one is worse. Competition forces
everyone to the lowest denominator.

[Michael A. Terrell]

You just keep digging, don't you. I've worked with RF for almost 40
years. From 60 KHz to 11 GHz and from picowatts to megawatts. I had
over a million dollars worth of RF test equipment on my benches at my
last job and I used all of it. What you don't know about RF would fill
entire libraries.


What do you do other than run around screaming, THE SKY IS
FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Have you ever studied any technology, or to you just hang around with
the other grade school dropouts smoking dope?

WTH are 'Black Studies'? Why would you even come up with such off
the wall stupidity?

You are a 'Major' dumbass, and you prove it every time you quote some
pseudo scientific crap.

[Diogenes]

Pardon if I sound somewhat pendatic, Steve, but the actual quote is
from Alexander Pope's "Essay on Criticism" . . .

A little _learning_ is a dangerous thing,
Drink deep or taste not the *Pierian Spring.
There, shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
And drinking largely sobers us again.

* a mythical spring which gave wisdom to those who drank from it

But your reference to it is quite appropriate.

----
Diogenes

The wars are long, the peace is frail
The madmen come again . . . .

[Jim Wilkins]

"Steve from Colorado" <steve.fro...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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Here is some enlightenment for you:
http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/rfsafety/rf-faqs.html

[Richard]

On 2/27/2013 8:56 PM, Diogenes wrote:

> Pardon if I sound somewhat pendatic, Steve, but the actual quote is
> from Alexander Pope's "Essay on Criticism" . . .
>
> A little _learning_ is a dangerous thing,
> Drink deep or taste not the *Pierian Spring.
> There, shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
> And drinking largely sobers us again.
>

Eddie Likes!


Another of his works may be just as appropriate here?

'Tis hard to say, if greater Want of Skill
Appear in Writing or in Judging ill,
But, of the two, less dang'rous is th' Offence,
To tire our Patience, than mis-lead our Sense
Some few in that, but Numbers err in this,
Ten Censure wrong for one who Writes amiss;
A Fool might once himself alone expose,
Now One in Verse makes many more in Prose

[Richard]

On 2/27/2013 8:09 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:47:41 -0600, Richard<cave...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Good grief, Gunner.
>> You really need to get out more often.
>> (one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)
>>
>>
>

> And you cant read the labels????

what labels?

From Frankenfish:

As consumers, we have a reasonable expectation that the food we buy in
grocery stores is safe to eat. After all, that's why we have the Food
and Drug Administration (FDA).

But right now, the FDA is engaging in a mad dash to approve the sale of
genetically engineered (GE) salmon � an untested, _unlabeled_ and
potentially unsafe food. Thanks to the hard work of activists like you,
we've already forced the FDA to extend its GE salmon comment period by
an additional 60 days, but we still only have a short time to make our
voices heard. Will you join the fight against this frankenfish by
submitting your comments today, before the April 26 deadline?

GE salmon was created in a lab, by a company called AquaBounty, which
spliced eel genes into salmon. By combining these genes, the company is
able to create a fish that supposedly grows twice as fast as regular
salmon. While this might sound okay so far, this frankenfish is actually
pretty scary:

1. It's untested, which means we have no idea how long-term
consumption would impact humans.
2. It's unlabeled, which means that consumers won't have a choice
when it comes to avoiding this frankenfish.
3. It's potentially unsafe for both consumers and the environment,
but without proper, long-term testing we'll never know!

[Stormin Mormon]

Wow! I've never heard of journalists doing that.

Listening to the radio on the way home tonight, I
heard that ICE released a lot of detainees. Before
the sequester, even. Says that 90% of the illegal
border criminals don't show up for thier court
dates.

Might be time to bring back lynching?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"RogerN" <re...@midwest.net> wrote in message
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[Ray Keller]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Well said!!!

[Gunner]

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:31:36 -0600, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>On 2/27/2013 8:09 PM, Gunner wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:47:41 -0600, Richard<cave...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good grief, Gunner.
>>> You really need to get out more often.
>>> (one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And you cant read the labels????
>
>what labels?
>
> From Frankenfish:
>
>As consumers, we have a reasonable expectation that the food we buy in
>grocery stores is safe to eat. After all, that's why we have the Food
>and Drug Administration (FDA).
>
>But right now, the FDA is engaging in a mad dash to approve the sale of

>genetically engineered (GE) salmon — an untested, _unlabeled_ and

>potentially unsafe food. Thanks to the hard work of activists like you,
>we've already forced the FDA to extend its GE salmon comment period by
>an additional 60 days, but we still only have a short time to make our
>voices heard. Will you join the fight against this frankenfish by
>submitting your comments today, before the April 26 deadline?
>
>GE salmon was created in a lab, by a company called AquaBounty, which
>spliced eel genes into salmon. By combining these genes, the company is
>able to create a fish that supposedly grows twice as fast as regular
>salmon. While this might sound okay so far, this frankenfish is actually
>pretty scary:
>
> 1. It's untested, which means we have no idea how long-term
>consumption would impact humans.
> 2. It's unlabeled, which means that consumers won't have a choice
>when it comes to avoiding this frankenfish.
> 3. It's potentially unsafe for both consumers and the environment,
>but without proper, long-term testing we'll never know!

So dont buy Salmon. I never do. Seafood. Yuck!!!

<G>

Gunner
(Allergic to seafood)

[Gunner]

Blink blink....blink.

You actually think that microwatts of RF/Microwave is harmful to you?

How much do you get when you are standing outside, in the sun, or in
an urban environment.?

Gunner

[Snag]

Richard wrote:
> On 2/27/2013 8:09 PM, Gunner wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:47:41 -0600, Richard<cave...@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good grief, Gunner.
>>> You really need to get out more often.
>>> (one time good deal, just to rub yer nose in it)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And you cant read the labels????
>
> what labels?
>
> From Frankenfish:
>
> As consumers, we have a reasonable expectation that the food we buy in
> grocery stores is safe to eat. After all, that's why we have the Food
> and Drug Administration (FDA).
>
> But right now, the FDA is engaging in a mad dash to approve the sale

> of genetically engineered (GE) salmon � an untested, _unlabeled_ and

> potentially unsafe food. Thanks to the hard work of activists
> like you, we've already forced the FDA to extend its GE salmon
> comment period by an additional 60 days, but we still only have a
> short time to make our voices heard. Will you join the fight against
> this frankenfish by submitting your comments today, before the April
> 26 deadline?
> GE salmon was created in a lab, by a company called AquaBounty, which
> spliced eel genes into salmon. By combining these genes, the company
> is able to create a fish that supposedly grows twice as fast as
> regular salmon. While this might sound okay so far, this frankenfish
> is actually pretty scary:
>
> 1. It's untested, which means we have no idea how long-term
> consumption would impact humans.
> 2. It's unlabeled, which means that consumers won't have a choice
> when it comes to avoiding this frankenfish.
> 3. It's potentially unsafe for both consumers and the environment,
> but without proper, long-term testing we'll never know!

Hey , the Tlielaxu marketed Slig meat for generations without the benefit
of the FDA ... but then that was in a fantasy world .
I'm beginning to think the only way to avoid genetically engineered foods
is to grow your own fruits and veggies from heirloom seed and eat only wild
game . I don't think they've come up with a GE deer yet ... the hard part is
going to be grains , takes a lot of work to grow and harvest your own .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !