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Whimpering Scumbags who are trying to overturn the Electoral College

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Gunner Asch

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Nov 18, 2016, 11:45:32 PM11/18/16
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Steve from Colorado

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Nov 19, 2016, 12:49:50 AM11/19/16
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Jesse Ventura was whining about the Electoral College on Alex Jones
yesterday. I used to respect the man, but he's become more eccentric
and weird since becoming a resident of Mexico. He may be playing to a
Mexican audience now more than to an American one these days.

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Buddy L

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Nov 19, 2016, 2:00:00 PM11/19/16
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On 11/18/2016 09:49 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> On 11/18/2016 09:44 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> https://dogs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PRLRRCfKsC8ao9m9PxxVfIpZXcFnbCpVa1JWmERXk5k/edit#gid=0
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> Jesse Ventura was whining about the Electoral College on Alex Jones yesterday.

And another whiner...

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."
Trump - Nov 2012

<http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-calls-electoral-college-a-disaster-during-2012-tweetstorm/>

Steve from Colorado

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Nov 19, 2016, 6:32:08 PM11/19/16
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I am reminded of those old Youtube videos from back when George W Bush
was President where they had Governor Bush debate President Bush, using
old videos of Texas Governor Bush sounding intelligent and sophisticated
debating himself as President and sounding like an open borders,
Hispandering moron.

Personally, I would like to see the EC eliminated because it gives too
much power to heavily illegal alien infested states. I'd at least like
to see Attorney General Jeff Sessions apportion electoral votes and
House of Representatives seats based on citizens in each state and not
counting illegal aliens or immigrants. Votes from each state could not
be higher in number than the actual number of citizens who are allowed
to vote. If you take illegal alien count out of the EC or House of
Representatives in states like California, the number of electoral votes
would have to be reduced by at least half along with the number of Reps
in Congress from that state.

Do you think that if there had been no Electoral College that the
outcomes of the last couple of presidential elections would have been
different. Would John McCain have been President and would he have
pardoned Charlie Manson for trying to start a race war (Helter Skelter)
so that he could run on the GOP ticket to succeed him? <Just kidding>

Jim Wilkins

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Nov 19, 2016, 7:15:59 PM11/19/16
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"Steve from Colorado" <ste...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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Without an Electoral College the candidates would have campaigned
differently, so we can't tell. Many voters may have been repelled by
relatively random errors like Trump's slips of the tongue or HRC's bad
judgement, like calling blacks "Super Predators" or whites
"Deplorables".



Jim Wilkins

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Nov 19, 2016, 8:32:05 PM11/19/16
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bruce2...@gmail.com

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Nov 26, 2016, 3:06:22 PM11/26/16
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Maybe not back in 2000 with Bush and Gore, but today I'm fairly sure that one or two college whiz kids out there have perfected how to find out exactly what, if anything, went wrong. After all, it is 16 whole years later.

Jim Wilkins

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Nov 26, 2016, 4:45:51 PM11/26/16
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<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d6a92dc3-d21c-441e...@googlegroups.com...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/11/09/pollsters-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-election/93523012/

"If the election were based on total popular vote I would have
campaigned in N.Y. Florida and California and won even bigger and more
easily."
--Donald J. Trump

What went "wrong" is that the Dems tried to sabotage the Republican
primaries by supporting and switching to vote for the candidate they
mistook as the easiest to beat.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/05/18/more-democrats-crossed-over-to-vote-republican-in-ohio-primary.html
"In the counties containing Youngstown and Steubenville, more than a
quarter of the GOP voters in the March 15 primary had been Democrats,
the new statistics show. Trump easily carried both counties, as well
as several others with high Democratic crossover rates."

http://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks-reveals-dnc-elevated-trump-to-help-clinton/
"It was in the best interest of Clinton, and therefore the Democratic
Party, that Trump was the Republican presidential nominee. Polls
indicated Sen. Rubio, Gov. Kasich, or almost any other establishment
Republican would likely beat Clinton in a general election."

"The mainstream media was more than willing to do the Clinton campaign
and DNC's work for them by creating a narrative that the 2016
presidential elections was about Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump."




Gunner Asch

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Nov 26, 2016, 5:44:48 PM11/26/16
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:06:19 -0800 (PST), bruce2...@gmail.com
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So when it turns out that millions of fraudulant votes for Hillary
turn up, will all the Democrats here slit their wrists?

Burger Man

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Nov 26, 2016, 6:04:40 PM11/26/16
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 14:44:12 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
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>So when it turns out that millions of fraudulant votes for Hillary
>turn up, will all the Democrats here slit their wrists?

You should demand something worse - that they move to trailers in
Taft, and slowly cull themselves with soda, nicotine, and hypocrisy.

>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>https://www.avast.com/antivirus

What email, imbecile?

Martin Eastburn

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Nov 26, 2016, 10:41:46 PM11/26/16
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And finally the vote from the 'boys and girls' overseas gets counted.
That will be even more votes for Trump as he will have their backs in
a problem - and know that Hillery would turn sides and let the other
side mow over the troops.

Martin

Gunner Asch

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Nov 27, 2016, 5:42:25 AM11/27/16
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Well stated!

Ignoramus22212

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Nov 27, 2016, 7:29:08 AM11/27/16
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What sort of thing would you expect, if you "recount" an
all-electronic vote?

i

Gunner Asch

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Nov 27, 2016, 10:02:34 AM11/27/16
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Depends on who is controlling those machines doesnt it....?

https://www.google.com/search?q=democrat+voter+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Over 1 million hits

https://www.google.com/search?q=democrat+voter+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#safe=off&q=democrat+voter+fraud+convictions

60,000 hits. Its fascinating to see the little Politfact article that
says there is no Democrat voter fraud...right smack dab in all the
articles proving Democrat voter fraud..and news about all the
Democrats who were arrested for voter fraud..and convicted

But then..Polifact isnt doing so good these days...having shot their
wad supporting Democrat voter fraud..and being caught at it.

Larry Jaques

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Nov 27, 2016, 1:43:50 PM11/27/16
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:29:02 -0600, Ignoramus22212
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.22212.invalid> wrote:

Ask your Mayor Daley. This sort of thing is not new to him, although
he didn't have electronics to corrupt in his day.


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I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you
have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money.
--Thomas Sowell

Ignoramus22212

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Nov 27, 2016, 8:16:03 PM11/27/16
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On 2016-11-27, Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:29:02 -0600, Ignoramus22212
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.22212.invalid> wrote:
>
>>What sort of thing would you expect, if you "recount" an
>>all-electronic vote?
>
> Ask your Mayor Daley. This sort of thing is not new to him, although
> he didn't have electronics to corrupt in his day.
>
>

I mean, electronic voting is not much. Votes are recorded in the
computer, anonymously, and then the sum totals are transmitted from
precincts to the election body. They are summed again at the state
level.

What sort of a recount is possible here? Just re-summing again?

I am not saying that voting computers were definitely not hacked, only
that there is nothing to recount or an all electronic vote.

At least in the case of paper ballots, they can be re-scanned again or
counted by hand.

Electronic records, not so much.

If, for example, voter fraud is discovered and certain ineligible
voters were found to have voted, there is not even any way to remove
their votes, as they are anonymous and there is nothing that ties a
voter to a vote.

i

edhun...@gmail.com

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Nov 27, 2016, 8:19:14 PM11/27/16
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Two of the three states in question use optically-scanned paper ballots. The third one (PA) uses them in some counties.

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Ed Huntress

Larry Jaques

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Nov 27, 2016, 9:21:47 PM11/27/16
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:15:56 -0600, Ignoramus22212
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.22212.invalid> wrote:

>On 2016-11-27, Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:29:02 -0600, Ignoramus22212
>><ignoram...@NOSPAM.22212.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>What sort of thing would you expect, if you "recount" an
>>>all-electronic vote?
>>
>> Ask your Mayor Daley. This sort of thing is not new to him, although
>> he didn't have electronics to corrupt in his day.
>>
>>
>
>I mean, electronic voting is not much. Votes are recorded in the
>computer, anonymously, and then the sum totals are transmitted from
>precincts to the election body. They are summed again at the state
>level.
>
>What sort of a recount is possible here? Just re-summing again?

Maybe go through the voting machine memories, looking for hacking?


>I am not saying that voting computers were definitely not hacked, only
>that there is nothing to recount or an all electronic vote.
>
>At least in the case of paper ballots, they can be re-scanned again or
>counted by hand.
>
>Electronic records, not so much.

Yeah, I don't really understand that, either.


>If, for example, voter fraud is discovered and certain ineligible
>voters were found to have voted, there is not even any way to remove
>their votes, as they are anonymous and there is nothing that ties a
>voter to a vote.

True.

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We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun; he is
no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected.
--Henry David Thoreau

edhun...@gmail.com

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Nov 27, 2016, 10:06:56 PM11/27/16
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That's not what they're looking for. They're looking for quantities of votes that were not entered as individual votes made at the ballot box. They're looking for vote-stuffing, which often leaves a telltale.

>
> --
> We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun; he is
> no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected.
> --Henry David Thoreau

If you're going to quote Thoreau or anyone else, Larry, at least quote the whole thought:

"We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun; he is no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected. This was my answer with respect to those youths who were bent on this pursuit, trusting that they would soon outgrow it. No humane being, past the thoughtless age of boyhood, will wantonly murder any creature which holds its life by the same tenure that he does. The hare in its extremity cries like a child.

"Such is oftenest the young man's introduction to the forest, and the most original part of himself. He goes thither at first as a hunter and fisher, until at last, if he has the seeds of a better life in him, he distinguishes his proper objects, as a poet or naturalist it may be, and leaves the gun and fish-pole behind." -- Walden, Chapter 11

Thoreau was saying that hunting and fishing are important pursuits for introducing children to the outdoors, but that, if he is a "humane being," he will put his gun and his fish-pole away when he becomes a man.

Your selected little snippets of quotations tend to vulgarize the thoughts of thoughtful men. If you quote them because you commend the person's thought, at least honor the complete thought. Or don't quote them, if you have to hack them up for your purposes.

--
Ed Huntress

Jerry Buchanan

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Nov 27, 2016, 10:50:42 PM11/27/16
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> So when it turns out that millions of fraudulant [sic] votes for Hillary
> turn up,

It won't...because there weren't.

Jerry Buchanan

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Nov 27, 2016, 10:51:44 PM11/27/16
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On 11/27/2016 7:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:29:02 -0600, Ignoramus22212
> <ignoram...@NOSPAM.22212.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What sort of thing would you expect, if you "recount" an
>> all-electronic vote?
>>
>> i
>
> Depends on who is controlling those machines doesnt it....?
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=democrat+voter+fraud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>
> Over 1 million hits

All of them bullshit.

dca...@krl.org

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Nov 28, 2016, 10:26:48 AM11/28/16
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Here in Delaware as I recall the voting machine generates a couple of mag tapes and some paper tape copies. So I would thing you could check the number of votes from the sign in sheets against both the paper tapes and the mag tapes. And against what was entered for the precinct at the central office.

Dan

Terry Coombs

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Nov 28, 2016, 10:26:50 AM11/28/16
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Sore losers just can't let it go .
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Snag


Gunner Asch

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Nov 28, 2016, 12:50:04 PM11/28/16
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http://politicalref.com/permalink/16--11-24_michigan_certified.php

Michigan vote CERTIFIED!!

http://www.inquisitr.com/3747002/2016-recount-jill-stein-cannot-file-direct-request-for-recount-in-pennsylvania-must-take-it-to-court/

Snicker!!

"The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for
impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated &
demoralized Dems"

ROFLMAO!!!

rangerssuck

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Nov 28, 2016, 2:54:21 PM11/28/16
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"The election is rigged!" - Donald Trump

Are you now saying that your boy is a liar?

rbowman

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Nov 28, 2016, 8:12:53 PM11/28/16
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On 11/28/2016 11:58 AM, Winston_Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:49:54 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>> "The Green Party scam to fill up their coffers by asking for
>> impossible recounts is now being joined by the badly defeated &
>> demoralized Dems"
>
> Jill Stein wanted $1 million to fund the recounts. That is about what
> it will actually cost. She got that.
>
> Then she needed $2 million. She got that.
>
> Then she needed $4 million. She got that.
>
> Now she says she needs $7 million.
>
> Dang, that's almost exponential.
>
> Dig deep, send her some money. Prove how gullible you are.
>

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/28/the-stein-campaign-and-the-fight-for-green-party-independence/

According to this article the Green Party itself isn't on board.
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