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raykeller

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Oct 22, 2016, 1:51:12 AM10/22/16
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BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point Poll
lead [Busted]
Phase ^ | October 21, 2016

Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth

As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is doing well
in Florida and other states.

But the poll numbers have largely been negative. Why? Is the mainstream
media oversampling Democrats, and are they unable to record the historic
support for Trump in 2016?

The truth is, the polls are fake and it's on purpose! The Wikileaks emails
from Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta have confirmed that the media is
actively involved in destroying Trump.

Now, Anonymous is showing exactly what's going on:



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I saw it here:

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Frank

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Oct 22, 2016, 10:07:48 AM10/22/16
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On 10/22/2016 1:51 AM, raykeller wrote:
> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point Poll
> lead [Busted]
> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>
> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>
> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is doing well
> in Florida and other states.
>
> But the poll numbers have largely been negative. Why? Is the mainstream
> media oversampling Democrats, and are they unable to record the historic
> support for Trump in 2016?
>
> The truth is, the polls are fake and it's on purpose! The Wikileaks emails
> from Hillary campaign chairman John Podesta have confirmed that the media is
> actively involved in destroying Trump.
>
> Now, Anonymous is showing exactly what's going on:
>
>

Nothing new here. The dems have frequently used the polls to discourage
opposition and unfortunately it works. I recall them using fake exit
polls for John Kerry.

I personally refuse to be polled and understand that polls are answered
by people with land lines that answer the phone. Most people with
caller id are not answering the phone unless they know the caller.

Rudy Canoza

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Oct 22, 2016, 3:44:19 PM10/22/16
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On 10/21/2016 10:51 PM, raykeller wrote:
> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point Poll
> lead [Busted]
> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>
> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>
> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is doing well
> in Florida and other states.

Another fuckwitted ray-ray lie. Early voting in Florida hasn't started
yet. It starts in two days.

ray-ray always gets caught lying - always.

Dechucka

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Oct 22, 2016, 9:06:15 PM10/22/16
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"raykeller"
<whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
wrote in message news:nueuno$ck2$1...@dont-email.me...
> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point Poll
> lead [Busted]
> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>
> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>
> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is doing well
> in Florida and other states.

How do you know? Surely not by exit polls :-)

Governor Swill

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Oct 26, 2016, 11:07:30 AM10/26/16
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On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:06:03 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
By counting absentee and early voters' party affiliation. No, they
don't count the votes, they just note the party affiliation to
determine which party's voters are returning ballots in what numbers.

In Florida where Republicans vote heavily by absentee and early, their
turnout this year is low. The Dems are leading in early voting.

Swill
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RD Sandman

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Oct 26, 2016, 12:37:22 PM10/26/16
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Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:9ih11cp4sfej253fm...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:06:03 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"raykeller"
>><whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
>>wrote in message news:nueuno$ck2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point
>>> Poll lead [Busted]
>>> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>>>
>>> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>>>
>>> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is
>>> doing well in Florida and other states.
>>
>>How do you know? Surely not by exit polls :-)
>
> By counting absentee and early voters' party affiliation. No, they
> don't count the votes, they just note the party affiliation to
> determine which party's voters are returning ballots in what numbers.
>
> In Florida where Republicans vote heavily by absentee and early, their
> turnout this year is low. The Dems are leading in early voting.

Then Florida doesn't match the rest of the states. In most of them it is
the Democrats who push early voting as Florida did when I lived there. I
don't follow them as closely now that I don't.


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Mr. B1ack

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Oct 27, 2016, 8:45:34 AM10/27/16
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:37:15 -0500, RD Sandman <rdsa...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:9ih11cp4sfej253fm...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:06:03 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"raykeller"
>>><whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
>>>wrote in message news:nueuno$ck2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point
>>>> Poll lead [Busted]
>>>> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>>>>
>>>> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>>>>
>>>> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is
>>>> doing well in Florida and other states.
>>>
>>>How do you know? Surely not by exit polls :-)
>>
>> By counting absentee and early voters' party affiliation. No, they
>> don't count the votes, they just note the party affiliation to
>> determine which party's voters are returning ballots in what numbers.
>>
>> In Florida where Republicans vote heavily by absentee and early, their
>> turnout this year is low. The Dems are leading in early voting.
>
>Then Florida doesn't match the rest of the states. In most of them it is
>the Democrats who push early voting as Florida did when I lived there. I
>don't follow them as closely now that I don't.


It's not a matter of "pushing" ... it's a matter of DESIRE.
They WANT Trump and can't wait to cast their votes.
Nobody had to urge them to do anything.

Governor Swill

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Oct 27, 2016, 11:31:42 AM10/27/16
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:37:15 -0500, RD Sandman <rdsa...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:9ih11cp4sfej253fm...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 12:06:03 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"raykeller"
>>><whiney_will_have_his_nose_in_my_ass_in_3_2_1@leftards_are_loosers.com>
>>>wrote in message news:nueuno$ck2$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point
>>>> Poll lead [Busted]
>>>> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>>>>
>>>> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>>>>
>>>> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is
>>>> doing well in Florida and other states.
>>>
>>>How do you know? Surely not by exit polls :-)
>>
>> By counting absentee and early voters' party affiliation. No, they
>> don't count the votes, they just note the party affiliation to
>> determine which party's voters are returning ballots in what numbers.
>>
>> In Florida where Republicans vote heavily by absentee and early, their
>> turnout this year is low. The Dems are leading in early voting.
>
>Then Florida doesn't match the rest of the states. In most of them it is
>the Democrats who push early voting as Florida did when I lived there. I
>don't follow them as closely now that I don't.

The Dems have a slight edge in early and absentee voting nationwide
while normally, it's GOP voters getting an edge on absentee and early
ballots.

The interesting thing is the way the media is spinning it. At least
one pundit on CNN says this is an indication of Republicans abstaining
which would be good news for Dems. Another way to view it is that it
might be Republicans showing up to vote in person and Dems,
overconfident by such "early results" speculation that might stay
home.

Anyway, it's ludicrous to start counting early voting registrations as
some kind of indication of how the vote is going to go. It doesn't
account for crossing party lines, voting third party, or skipping the
Prez box to vote down ballot only.

It's just talking head noise to fill air time.

Governor Swill

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Oct 28, 2016, 2:45:35 PM10/28/16
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On Thu, 27 Oct Mr. B1ack wrote:
>On Wed, 26 Oct RD Sandman wrote:
>>Governor Swill wrote
>>> On Sun, 23 Oct "Dechucka" wrote:
>>>>"raykeller" wrote
>>>>> BREAKING: Hillary caught by Anonymous Paying Off NBC Fake +11 Point
>>>>> Poll lead [Busted]
>>>>> Phase ^ | October 21, 2016
>>>>> Posted on 10/21/2016, 7:13:57 PM by T Ruth
>>>>> As early voting continues, we have seen that Donald J. Trump is
>>>>> doing well in Florida and other states.
>>>>How do you know? Surely not by exit polls :-)
>>> By counting absentee and early voters' party affiliation. No, they
>>> don't count the votes, they just note the party affiliation to
>>> determine which party's voters are returning ballots in what numbers.
>>> In Florida where Republicans vote heavily by absentee and early, their
>>> turnout this year is low. The Dems are leading in early voting.
>>Then Florida doesn't match the rest of the states. In most of them it is
>>the Democrats who push early voting as Florida did when I lived there. I
>>don't follow them as closely now that I don't.

> It's not a matter of "pushing" ... it's a matter of DESIRE.
> They WANT Trump and can't wait to cast their votes.
> Nobody had to urge them to do anything.

Georgia started early voting last week. My roommate tried to vote but
the lines were around the building. Today, we tried a different
polling place. It was packed. 30 machines with no more than two or
three available at any one time. They were lined up in the hall
filling out their absentee ballot applications. The crowd was mostly
black and female. Only saw a couple dozen other guys and I was the
only white in the place.

Swill
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Mr. B1ack

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Oct 28, 2016, 9:42:45 PM10/28/16
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So what's it like hanging out with the professionally
unemployed ?

rbowman

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Oct 28, 2016, 11:19:20 PM10/28/16
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On 10/28/2016 12:45 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Only saw a couple dozen other guys and I was the
> only white in the place.

Racist... Race is just a social construct. You're merely lacking in
melanin.

RD Sandman

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rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote in news:e7iiplF2v2iU2
@mid.individual.net:
It's really just a big freckle.

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2016 21:42:38 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
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I told you you were a bigot and you denied it.

Governor Swill

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Exactly. Thank you.

I wonder if my melanin disability would qualify me for SSDI?

rbowman

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Oct 30, 2016, 12:12:12 AM10/30/16
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On 10/29/2016 06:04 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> I wonder if my melanin disability would qualify me for SSDI?

There's a cure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me

Lot's of methoxsalen, live in a tanning booth, and you can pass. or if
something goes horribly wrong you might wind up looking like Trump or Boner.

Mr. B1ack

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Oct 30, 2016, 2:34:03 AM10/30/16
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 20:03:59 -0400, Governor Swill
I tell only the Truth.

And what are people who deny it ?

Governor Swill

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 02:33:55 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
Would be nice if you did.

> And what are people who deny it ?

Telling the truth.

Governor Swill

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Oct 31, 2016, 12:18:17 PM10/31/16
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Lol!

Mr. B1ack

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 12:17:38 -0400, Governor Swill
Nope ... "idiot-ologists" ... kinda like people who'll
swear the earth is flat because their religion suggests
it is, slaves to their ideology.

Governor Swill

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On Mon, 31 Oct Mr. B1ack wrote:
> Nope ... "idiot-ologists" ... kinda like people who'll
> swear the earth is flat because their religion suggests
> it is, slaves to their ideology.

Is that why you're a slave to yours?

Mr. B1ack

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On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:02:26 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Oct Mr. B1ack wrote:
>> Nope ... "idiot-ologists" ... kinda like people who'll
>> swear the earth is flat because their religion suggests
>> it is, slaves to their ideology.
>
>Is that why you're a slave to yours?

Name mine if you can ... I'll trash Republicans and religious nuts
one day and Dems and "safe space" idiots the next. I've posted
many a letter on the failings of laissez-faire capitalism and as
many on the idiocy of socialism. I'll say beware Syrian jihadists
and also not to stage pogroms against Syrians. I say global
warming is real - but not to panic. I say Trump sucks and I say
Hillary sucks (albeit a bit more).

So name the ideology I'm enslaved to. Yours is plain to see
however. And no ... embracing Plan-X like it's a religion does
not make you a better person. There have been eleventy
million plans over the past ten millenia and none were worth
getting your knees dirty for.

Governor Swill

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Nov 2, 2016, 10:15:14 PM11/2/16
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On Tue, 01 Nov Mr. B1ack wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Nov Governor Swill wrote:
>>On Mon, 31 Oct Mr. B1ack wrote:
>>> Nope ... "idiot-ologists" ... kinda like people who'll
>>> swear the earth is flat because their religion suggests
>>> it is, slaves to their ideology.
>>Is that why you're a slave to yours?

> Name mine if you can ...

The ideology of change for it's own sake. Change without any idea of
what it will be.

>I'll trash Republicans and religious nuts
> one day and Dems and "safe space" idiots the next. I've posted
> many a letter on the failings of laissez-faire capitalism and as
> many on the idiocy of socialism.

And in this country we have neither (and both), so where's your
disconnect?

> I'll say beware Syrian jihadists
> and also not to stage pogroms against Syrians. I say global
> warming is real - but not to panic. I say Trump sucks and I say
> Hillary sucks (albeit a bit more).
>
> So name the ideology I'm enslaved to. Yours is plain to see
> however.

Then name it.

>And no ... embracing Plan-X like it's a religion does
> not make you a better person. There have been eleventy
> million plans over the past ten millenia and none were worth
> getting your knees dirty for.

The biggest difference between us in this context is that I don't see
the country as being in such bad shape. The progress we've made from
the pit of 2008 is remarkable. That is, I don't see any reason for
change.

I agree with using Iran as a lever against the Sunni Wahhabbists in
Saudi Arabia who were the source of 9/11 and today's ISIS.

I also agree with working carefully with the Saudi "elites" because
they too, are trapped by the Wahhabbists. It might take a century to
throw off the yoke of religious extremism within Islam.

I also agree with the Asian pivot. China is a potential competitor to
whom we could lose much global leadership within a generation. So
yes, we do need to cultivate friendships with Asian nations we've
neglected before and strengthen our ties with the allies we already
have there. Australia is critical to this pivot.

Clearly Russia has decided to become a threat to Europe again. I
don't agree with being soft on Russia. We've let them have what they
wanted for well over a decade and it's time we reminded them that
there's a difference between consensus and consensus at the point of a
gun.

Economically, the news has been just plain good. I honestly don't
believe all the doomsayers complaining about how bad it all is and I
sure don't believe those who think trade is bad. They have no idea
what's going on.

But the most important thing is the society itself. To see haters and
bigots flex their muscles and attach themselves to a party is
disturbing. Even more so given their propensity for expressing
hatred.

Another surprise is seeing Christians in name only attach themselves
to these haters. If a Clinton voter spoke to a Christian the way
Trump's voters do, they'd be enraged. But they simply shrug and move
along because you know what? They're closet haters.

The biggest surprise of all is the support from the Russians. I never
thought I'd see the day when Americans would wave the flag to support
a candidate who would abandon our allies of decades and even centuries
and take up with a country that was our fierce enemy for most of the
past century. That, sir, truly boggles the mind.

rbowman

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On 11/02/2016 08:15 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Economically, the news has been just plain good. I honestly don't
> believe all the doomsayers complaining about how bad it all is and I
> sure don't believe those who think trade is bad. They have no idea
> what's going on.

Check the stock market today? Or the auto sales figures? Computer sales?
Even Windows 10 is losing market share now that people aren't having it
shoved down their throats and have to pay for it.

Even apartment owners are dropping rents. They've exceeded the point
that potential renters can or will pay. Baltic Dry Index? Health of the
US trucking industry? Keep whistling.

news16

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On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 21:02:32 -0600, rbowman wrote:


> Even apartment owners are dropping rents. They've exceeded the point
> that potential renters can or will pay.

Over here, the economic "smart" advice was to buy property to rent in the
residential market. And they did, since rents were high, "the renter
would pay it off".

The correction is going to be a real bitch especially for those parents
who put up the deposit for their still at school kiddiewinks to buy a
place.

Mr. B1ack

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On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:36:36 -0700, Winston_Smith
<inv...@butterfly.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 21:02:32 -0600, rbowman wrote:
>
>>Even apartment owners are dropping rents.
>
>Those tenants are going to have a lot less to spend on rent pretty
>soon.
>
>In a lot of states the government mandated 0bamaCare premiums are
>going up by as much as $450 per MONTH. $5,400 off the top of your
>annual income is sure to dent the family budget.
>
>It might even start cutting into the gruel and boiled cabbage budget.

It's all part of the plan ... make ocare SO expensive
that it's a justified emergency measure to nationalize
the ENTIRE industry from the pharmas on down to
the docs and part-time assistants ... and no more
private carriers at all. They'll ALL become govt
employees - and WE all become govt slaves.

Unfortunately for The Plan ... the inflation factor blew
up a little BEFORE the elections. Hard to time those
things exactly ..........

rbowman

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Nov 3, 2016, 9:45:14 AM11/3/16
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In the '80s, tax breaks made building office space attractive, so
everyone jumped on the bandwagon. Soon there was a lot of vacant office
space, broke contractors, and over extended banks. I got the hell out of
Dodge before Dukakis' Massachusetts Miracle got any more miraculous.


Governor Swill

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Nov 3, 2016, 2:24:51 PM11/3/16
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On Wed, 2 Nov rbowman wrote:
>On 11/02/2016 08:15 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> Economically, the news has been just plain good. I honestly don't
>> believe all the doomsayers complaining about how bad it all is and I
>> sure don't believe those who think trade is bad. They have no idea
>> what's going on.
>
>Check the stock market today?

Yes, it's at 17,970.02. Know what it was on Jan 20, 2009? 7,949.09.

>Or the auto sales figures?

"U.S. Car Sales Set Record in 2015
Auto makers top 15-year-old peak as cheap gas, stronger economy lift
demand"
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-car-sales-poised-for-their-best-month-ever-1451999939

Light truck sales, which includes SUVs, are steadily climbing month to
month. This is driving overall vehicle sales up through 2016.
http://online.wsj.com/media/48KIKPMP.gif

> Computer sales?

Users are moving to tablets and especially, smartphones. Even so. . .

"PC Sales Are Up in the US! But Don’t Expect a Great Comeback"
DON’T LOOK NOW, but PC shipments are actually up in the US, at least
by a little bit.
Researchers at Gartner, which includes tablets such as Microsoft’s
Surface in its report, tracked a 1.4 percent increase, this most
recent quarter compared to the same time a year ago. IDC, which does
not include such tablets, reported a 4.9 percent bump in a report
released this week. [which might indicate a slowdown in tablet sales
to the benefit of pcs - good news for Mac and MS]
https://www.wired.com/2016/07/pc-sales-us-dont-expect-great-comeback/

>Even Windows 10 is losing market share now that people aren't having it
>shoved down their throats and have to pay for it.

More good news for consumers because it means MS' monopoly on home
computing is broken. MS now faces competition from smartphone and
tablet makers who offer other operating systems. Consumers have more
options at lower costs.

>Even apartment owners are dropping rents. They've exceeded the point
>that potential renters can or will pay.

Supply and demand. This is excellent news for consumers who're seeing
lower rents driving a lower cost of living.

>Baltic Dry Index?

Scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find some bad news, aren't
you? That's a London exchange for international oceanic shippers.
What does that have to do with the health of the US economy? What
does it have to do with the POTUS? And if Trump has it's way,
international trade is going to drop sharply over the next years. Not
good news for the Baltic Dry Index.


"The Baltic Dry Index (BDI) is an economic indicator issued daily by
the London-based Baltic Exchange. Not restricted to Baltic Sea
countries, the index provides "an assessment" of the price of moving
the major raw materials by sea.[1] Taking in 23 shipping routes
measured on a timecharter basis, the index covers Handysize, Supramax,
Panamax, and Capesize dry bulk carriers carrying a range of
commodities including coal, iron ore and grain."[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Dry_Index

Here's the graph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Dry_Index#/media/File:BDI.png

You know what that means? It means it's cheaper to ship goods by sea
than it used to be. It means that shipping prices are what they were
in the late nineties and early 2000s. Good news not only for
consumers, but for business as well.

> Health of the US trucking industry?

"Chronic Poor Health is Chasing Drivers From Trucking Industry"
"A survey by employee background-check firm HireRight found that truck
drivers in the U.S. are quitting because of health-related factors.
It’s one of the top reasons — along with low pay and the desire to
spend more time at home — for leaving the industry."
https://www.trucks.com/2016/06/06/trucking-industry-hurting-chronic-poor-health-truckers/

Or maybe you meant this:
"Industry Overview: Trucking"
"The Trucking Industry is a cyclical sector comprised of companies
that provide shipping services, using tractor-trailers, to customers,
which are usually commercial businesses."
http://www.valueline.com/Stocks/Industries/Industry_Overview__Trucking.aspx#.WBt92NUrJyw

ATA Truck Tonnage Index Fell 5.8% in September
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Jumped 5.7% in August
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Fell 2.1% in July
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Fell 1.5% in June
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Increased 2.7% in May
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Fell 2.1% in April
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Fell 4.5% in March
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Jumps 7.2% in February
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Slides 1.4% in January
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Increased 1% in December
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Decreased 0.9% in November
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Jumped 1.9% in October
ATA Truck Tonnage Index Rose 0.7% in September

Yep. Looks cyclical to me. Think it'll go up for October '16? 2nd
quarter GDP was up 1.4% and Q3 was up 2.9%. Christmas shopping season
is coming so shipping will have a likely have a "cyclical" upturn
before the end of the year.

I'll leave you with this report:
"Trucking Revenues Top $700 Billion for the First Time According to
New Report"
http://tinyurl.com/jqoxx3j

>Keep whistling.

0 for 7, Bowman. Wanna try again?

rbowman

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Nov 3, 2016, 9:14:17 PM11/3/16
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On 11/03/2016 12:24 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> Yes, it's at 17,970.02. Know what it was on Jan 20, 2009? 7,949.09.

And? The DJIA closed at 18,613.52 on 11 August.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/dow-20000-is-coming-this-year-and-heres-why-strategist.html

The good times are rolling, boys! Buy!

Too bad it's been going down for eight stright.

>> >Or the auto sales figures?
> "U.S. Car Sales Set Record in 2015

That was last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/business/big-decline-in-us-auto-sales-may-signal-end-of-six-year-boom.html

The party is over. From your Wired link;

"But don’t get too excited: this doesn’t portend the great comeback of
the personal computer. Worldwide, PC shipments are still on the decline
year-over-year. Gartner says shipments have fallen 5.2 percent to 64.3
million, while IDC says 4.5 percent to 62.4 million. Either way, the
trend line is down. "

I don't have time to fuck around with the rest of your selective
eiditing and cherry picking. Keep on whistling and the goblins won't get
you.


Governor Swill

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Nov 3, 2016, 9:36:00 PM11/3/16
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2016 02:07:26 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:

>
> It's all part of the plan ... make ocare SO expensive
> that it's a justified emergency measure to nationalize
> the ENTIRE industry from the pharmas on down to
> the docs and part-time assistants ... and no more
> private carriers at all. They'll ALL become govt
> employees - and WE all become govt slaves.
>
> Unfortunately for The Plan ... the inflation factor blew
> up a little BEFORE the elections. Hard to time those
> things exactly ..........

You'll forgive me if I don't believe that prediction.

"There will be no insurance industry left in three years." - Tom
Coburn
<http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/10/13/123951/coburn-private-insurance/>

"The legacy for Medicare is going to be devastating." - Lindsey Graham
<http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/03/28/senators_schumer__graham_on_meet_the_press_104964.html>

"[Obamacare] will ruin the best health care system in the world. It
will bankrupt our nation, and it will ruin our economy!" - John
Boehner
<http://humanevents.com/2011/01/07/boehner-obamacare-will-bankrupt-our-nation/>

"My baby with Down's Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's
death panels." - Sarah Palin
<http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/10/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-barack-obama-death-panel/>

"Obamacare will cause states to go bankrupt." - Rand Paul
<http://insider.foxnews.com/2013/07/24/rand-paul-obamacare-will-cause-states-go-bankrupt>

"When Obamacare takes effect in 2014, it'll be a job killer." - Donald
Trump

US unemployment rate 01/2014 6.6%
US unemployment rate 08/2016 5.0%
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Mr. B1ack

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Nov 3, 2016, 10:25:59 PM11/3/16
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And they're all pretty much right ... except for the timing.

Don't worry ... it's coming - oh, and it's gonna screw YOU too.


>US unemployment rate 01/2014 6.6%
>US unemployment rate 08/2016 5.0%
>http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000


Big whup .... a few more low-paying jobs.

Governor Swill

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Nov 4, 2016, 1:10:26 AM11/4/16
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On Thu, 03 Nov Mr. B1ack wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Nov Governor Swill wrote:
>>You'll forgive me if I don't believe that prediction.
>>"There will be no insurance industry left in three years." - Tom
>>Coburn
>><http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2010/10/13/123951/coburn-private-insurance/>
>>"The legacy for Medicare is going to be devastating." - Lindsey Graham
>><http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/03/28/senators_schumer__graham_on_meet_the_press_104964.html>
>>"[Obamacare] will ruin the best health care system in the world. It
>>will bankrupt our nation, and it will ruin our economy!" - John
>>Boehner
>><http://humanevents.com/2011/01/07/boehner-obamacare-will-bankrupt-our-nation/>
>>"My baby with Down's Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's
>>death panels." - Sarah Palin
>><http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/10/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-barack-obama-death-panel/>
>>"Obamacare will cause states to go bankrupt." - Rand Paul
>><http://insider.foxnews.com/2013/07/24/rand-paul-obamacare-will-cause-states-go-bankrupt>
>>"When Obamacare takes effect in 2014, it'll be a job killer." - Donald
>>Trump

> And they're all pretty much right ... except for the timing.

How about a few more?

"If President Obama is re-elected you will not be able to get a job."
and "If we bail out the car companies, you can kiss the US auto
industry goodbye." - Mitt Romney

Romney also claimed in 2012 that, if elected, he could get
unemployment down to 6% in four years.

"If you want $10 a gallon gasoline . . . Barack Obama should be your
candidate." - New Gingrich

"[Obama will] . . . erase the second amendment from the Bill of Rights
and excise it from the US Constitution." - Wayne LaPierre

Rick Santorum said that if gay marriage became the law of the land, ".
. . our country will fall."

"Rush Limbaugh predicted that “the country’s economy is going to
collapse if Obama is re-elected.” Limbaugh was confident in his
prediction: “There’s no if about this. And it’s gonna be ugly. It’s
gonna be gut wrenching, but it will happen.”

Too bad, Rush. It hasn't happened.

The economic freefall would begin, according to Limbaugh, because
“California is going to declare bankruptcy” and Obama would force
states like Texas to “bail them out.” Limbaugh added, “I know
mathematics, and I know economics. I know history. I know socialism,
statism, Marxism, I know where it goes. I know what happens at the end
of it.”"

". . . it will happen."

*GUFFAW!*

For such a bunch of anti gay marriage folks, Republicans sure are good
at pulling stuff out of their asses.

> Don't worry ... it's coming - oh, and it's gonna screw YOU too.

Obama has only two and a half months left and I paid 2.09 for gas last
week. What was gasoline in the summer of 2008?

"The cost of gas in June of 2008, the early stages of the heavy summer
driving season and during the presidential campaign, was $4.10 per
gallon. The 2008 gas crisis hit its peak one month later with prices
averaging $4.11 per gallon."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-facts-a-fact-check-on-gas-prices/

>>US unemployment rate 01/2014 6.6%
>>US unemployment rate 08/2016 5.0%
>>http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

> Big whup .... a few more low-paying jobs.

Unemployment is down, wages are growing again and have been for two
years and are at an all time high.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

Governor Swill

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Nov 4, 2016, 1:18:04 AM11/4/16
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 rbowman wrote:
>On 11/03/2016 12:24 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> Yes, it's at 17,970.02. Know what it was on Jan 20, 2009? 7,949.09.
>And? The DJIA closed at 18,613.52 on 11 August.
>http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/dow-20000-is-coming-this-year-and-heres-why-strategist.html
>The good times are rolling, boys! Buy!
>Too bad it's been going down for eight stright.
>>> >Or the auto sales figures?
>> "U.S. Car Sales Set Record in 2015
>That was last year.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/business/big-decline-in-us-auto-sales-may-signal-end-of-six-year-boom.html
>The party is over. From your Wired link;
>"But don’t get too excited: this doesn’t portend the great comeback of
>the personal computer. Worldwide, PC shipments are still on the decline
>year-over-year. Gartner says shipments have fallen 5.2 percent to 64.3
>million, while IDC says 4.5 percent to 62.4 million. Either way, the
>trend line is down. "

Also from that wired link. After noting the pound's fall against the
dollar since Brexit and the still sluggish Chinese economy:

"All in all, however, the ongoing decline in PC sales makes sense
regardless of whose currency you’re talking about. Yes, the PC does
still have its place in the hierarchy of tech, but it’s becoming
increasingly niche. These days, the biggest players in tech are the
companies whose products and services have achieved scale that
transcends any individual gadget. Google, Facebook, Amazon, Apple, and
increasingly Microsoft are all companies that are striving to reach
you wherever you are—in the cloud, on mobile, anywhere you live and
work. The PC is just one more way for them to get to you."

Iow, the PC isn't the only way to compute or connect anymore.
Smartphones are becoming the connectivity device of choice and they're
eroding the PC market.

>I don't have time to fuck around with the rest of your selective
>eiditing and cherry picking. Keep on whistling and the goblins won't get
>you.

And I don't have time to fuck around with yours.

"Baltic Dry Index" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Mr. B1ack

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Nov 4, 2016, 4:46:41 PM11/4/16
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So don't elect Mitt Romney ...

Governor Swill

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Nov 4, 2016, 9:27:40 PM11/4/16
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 16:46:34 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:
Don't elect Republicans. Or believe their predictions.

Mr. B1ack

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Nov 4, 2016, 9:56:13 PM11/4/16
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 21:27:38 -0400, Governor Swill
I seem to remember a LOT of Dems claiming
that Reagan would either immediatly start WW3
or impose a theocracy - maybe both.

Crystal balls are bunk.

Mr. B1ack

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Nov 5, 2016, 1:48:43 AM11/5/16
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Try writing a 300 page document on a phone .... :-)


Mr. B1ack

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Nov 5, 2016, 1:55:11 AM11/5/16
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 19:09:05 -0700, Winston_Smith
<inv...@butterfly.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 04 Nov 2016 21:56:06 -0400, Mr. B1ack wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember a LOT of Dems claiming
>> that Reagan would either immediatly start WW3
>> or impose a theocracy - maybe both.
>
>1964.
>
>None other than Lyndon B. Johnson told us Goldwater would start a
>nuclear war with Russia. He also told us if we voted for Goldwater, we
>would get involved in a land war in South East Asia.
>
>He was half right. I voted for Goldwater and before I knew it we were
>in Viet Nam.

Well ... Ike got us halfway involved and JFK finished
the job ..........

>The Dems have nothing new. They just keep recycling the same old fear
>tactics.

Yep ... Republicans all have horns under their NRA caps ....

The loudest accusers are usually the most guilty.

>And keep their followers so dumb they keep believing it.

What they've done to "education" over the past few decades
seems to prove your assertion.

Governor Swill

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Nov 5, 2016, 11:57:48 AM11/5/16
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 01:48:36 -0400, Mr. B1ack <now...@nada.net>
wrote:
Most people aren't writing 300 page documents.

Mr. B1ack

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On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 11:57:44 -0400, Governor Swill
Then they're slackers. :-)

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