Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader

[OuOwd⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛pKCPF]

“Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for
almost half a century. A legendary revolutionary and orator, Mr. Castro
made significant improvements to the education and healthcare of his
island nation.

“While a controversial figure, both Mr. Castro’s supporters and
detractors recognized his tremendous dedication and love for the Cuban
people who had a deep and lasting affection for “el Comandante”.

<http://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2016/11/26/statement-prime-minister-canada-death-former-cuban-president-fidel-castro>

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:11:59 -0500, OuOwd?? ?????? ? ??????? ??pKCPF
<GK...@HMEDx.com> wrote:

>
>“Fidel Castro was a dictator who suppressed and murdered his people for
>almost half a century.

Fixed that for you.


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[news16]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 06:55:48 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 07:11:59 -0500, OuOwd?? ?????? ? ??????? ??pKCPF
> <GK...@HMEDx.com> wrote:
>
>
>>“Fidel Castro was a dictator who suppressed and murdered his people for
>>almost half a century.
>
> Fixed that for you.

with the same knowledge of your black ops from Nam?
and all the other shite you've posted over the decades.

[Rudy Canoza]

On 11/27/2016 4:11 AM, OuOwd⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛pKCPF wrote:
>
> “Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for
> almost half a century.

"Larger than life" doesn't mean good. Castro *never* served the
interests of the Cuban people. He condemned the overwhelming majority
of them to lives of grinding poverty and cruel repression.

No good person mourns the passing of the tyrant.

[BNfEE⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛DuMnX]

Rudy Canoza wrote on 11/27/2016 8:47 PM:
> On 11/27/2016 4:11 AM, OuOwd⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛pKCPF wrote:
>>
>> “Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for
>> almost half a century.
>
> "Larger than life" doesn't mean good. Castro *never* served the
> interests of the Cuban people. He condemned the overwhelming majority
> of them to lives of grinding poverty and cruel repression.

No, the US condemned the overwhelming majority of Cubans to lives of
grinding poverty with economic sanctions.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sanctions>

[Gunner Asch]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:10:14 -0500, BNfEE?? ?????? ? ??????? ??DuMnX
<Xz...@UPPgx.com> wrote:

>Rudy Canoza wrote on 11/27/2016 8:47 PM:

>> On 11/27/2016 4:11 AM, OuOwd?? ?????? ? ??????? ??pKCPF wrote:
>>>
>>> 擢idel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his people for

>>> almost half a century.
>>
>> "Larger than life" doesn't mean good. Castro *never* served the
>> interests of the Cuban people. He condemned the overwhelming majority
>> of them to lives of grinding poverty and cruel repression.
>
>No, the US condemned the overwhelming majority of Cubans to lives of
>grinding poverty with economic sanctions.
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sanctions>

What,,,you mean Canada has been unable to improve the live of Cubans?

Why not? Cuba has no trade sanctions against Cuba. Canada trades
freely with Cuba. So why hasnt your nation improved the lives of the
Cubans, you fuckwit?

Hummmmmmmmm?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37256542

So either Cuba doesnt have anything Canadians want...or you bozos are
nearly as hypocritical as all of us think. The trade embargo is
strickly between the US and Cuba. So why dont you Hosers spend the
money to make Cuba great again? Crom knows you take in enough Muslims
who use Canada as a jumping off point for attacks on the US.

Got an explaination for that..bozo?

Hummmmmmmmmm?

[kqqWu⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛yVewm]

Gunner Asch wrote on 11/28/2016 5:53 AM:
>
>
>
> What,,,you mean Canada has been unable to improve the live of Cubans?
>
> Why not? Cuba has no trade sanctions against Cuba. Canada trades
> freely with Cuba. So why hasnt your nation improved the lives of the
> Cubans

Use your brain, you fuckwit. If economic sanctions do not hurt the
target country, the US wouldn't be so quick in using it as a weapon
against any leader who refuses to fall in line.

Think about it, shitface.

[Jim Wilkins]

"kqqWu?? Mighty + Wannabe ??yVewm" <TJ...@zYMqF.com> wrote in message
news:0BV_z.71348$WD2....@fx35.iad...

Cuba is a WTO member and wide open to the rest of the world but they
are such a self-made mess that few bother with them:
http://havanajournal.com/business/C13/
"You STILL want to invest time and money in Cuba? You will lose both."

Cuba is one more proof that Communism is a parasite that needs a
capitalist host. Marxist dogma is merely an excuse to justify sucking
its blood.

[KBaGv⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛suGxK]

Jim Wilkins wrote on 11/28/2016 8:52 AM:
> "kqqWu?? Mighty + Wannabe ??yVewm" <TJ...@zYMqF.com> wrote in message
> news:0BV_z.71348$WD2....@fx35.iad...
>> Gunner Asch wrote on 11/28/2016 5:53 AM:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What,,,you mean Canada has been unable to improve the live of
>>> Cubans?
>>>
>>> Why not? Cuba has no trade sanctions against Cuba. Canada trades
>>> freely with Cuba. So why hasnt your nation improved the lives of
>>> the
>>> Cubans
>>
>> Use your brain, you fuckwit. If economic sanctions do not hurt the
>> target country, the US wouldn't be so quick in using it as a weapon
>> against any leader who refuses to fall in line.
>>
>> Think about it, shitface.
>
> Cuba is a WTO member and wide open to the rest of the world but they
> are such a self-made mess that few bother with them:
> http://havanajournal.com/business/C13/
> "You STILL want to invest time and money in Cuba? You will lose both."

The website is CIA's propaganda machine piece of work.
IP information 69.16.210.103
IP address 69.16.210.103
Location Lansing, Michigan, United States (US) flag

>
> Cuba is one more proof that Communism is a parasite that needs a
> capitalist host. Marxist dogma is merely an excuse to justify sucking
> its blood.

It is true that Cuba has been a WTO member since 1995, but the economic
sanctions imposed by the US will still discourage US-friendly countries
from doing business with Cuba.

[Jim Wilkins]

"KBaGv?? Mighty + Wannabe ??suGxK" <ti...@hugUp.com> wrote in message
news:FkZ_z.157000$MI2....@fx19.iad...

This says Cape Cod:
http://havanajournal.com/home/about/#ABOUT US

My best English-language source on Russia is based in Vermont.

[Gunner Asch]

So you are unable to answer the question I posed to you?

That then shows that you are a brainless buffoon, doesn't it?

Does someone follow you around making sure your diaper doesn't trickle
shit as you walk? They need to assign someone to that task.

[Gunner Asch]

So Canada is not US friendly? Given that they and the Neatherlands
do a fair amount of business with Cuba....where is all that money
going?

Its interesting to watch the blubs coming from Cuba..the night
shots..with a huge crowd of people...and only 3-4 cellphones lighting
up the night. Seems that they give cellphones away to anyone who
wants one here in the States...odd how the Cubanos seem to be
surprisingly short on them. What..the Canadians are keeping them all
to themselves?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_mobile_phone_companies

None of those Canadian companies bothered to provide service to the
prosperous peoples of Cuba? Heavens! Why not?

Hummmm?

[aWnje⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛GqYUU]

The US is anti-Castro. The US is harbouring a large population of
anti-Castro Cuban expat and their descendants. The website is hosted by
a bunch of Americans and based in the US. How neutral and honest, you
think, can the opinion expressed on that website be?

>
> My best English-language source on Russia is based in Vermont.

Sure, that is another CIA piece of work.

It is simple to understand if you answer the following question:

Can the Russians trust a Russia-run, Russian-language website based in
Moscow to be honest and neutral about the US?

[laeNO⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛cEHEl]

The only business in large quantity that I know is cane sugar from Cuba.
Maybe there is a loophole in the US imposed economic sanctions against
Cuba that exempts cane sugar, but that is not enough to lift them out of
poverty much.

>
> Its interesting to watch the blubs coming from Cuba..the night
> shots..with a huge crowd of people...and only 3-4 cellphones lighting
> up the night. Seems that they give cellphones away to anyone who
> wants one here in the States...odd how the Cubanos seem to be
> surprisingly short on them. What..the Canadians are keeping them all
> to themselves?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_mobile_phone_companies
>
> None of those Canadian companies bothered to provide service to the
> prosperous peoples of Cuba? Heavens! Why not?
>
> Hummmm?

Are you stupid or what? You cannot afford cellphones when you don't have
money. The economic sanctions imposed by the US impoverished them.

[pyotr filipivich]

Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> on Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:36:01 -0800
typed in misc.survivalism the following:

>
>>>
>>> Cuba is one more proof that Communism is a parasite that needs a
>>> capitalist host. Marxist dogma is merely an excuse to justify sucking
>>> its blood.
>>
>>It is true that Cuba has been a WTO member since 1995, but the economic
>>sanctions imposed by the US will still discourage US-friendly countries
>>from doing business with Cuba.
>
>So Canada is not US friendly? Given that they and the Neatherlands
>do a fair amount of business with Cuba....where is all that money
>going?

Swiss banking accounts.
--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

[Rudy Canoza]

On 11/28/2016 8:56 AM, KBaGv⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛suGxK wrote:
> Jim Wilkins wrote on 11/28/2016 8:52 AM:
>> "kqqWu?? Mighty + Wannabe ??yVewm" <TJ...@zYMqF.com> wrote in message
>> news:0BV_z.71348$WD2....@fx35.iad...
>>> Gunner Asch wrote on 11/28/2016 5:53 AM:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What,,,you mean Canada has been unable to improve the live of
>>>> Cubans?
>>>>
>>>> Why not? Cuba has no trade sanctions against Cuba. Canada trades
>>>> freely with Cuba. So why hasnt your nation improved the lives of
>>>> the
>>>> Cubans
>>>
>>> Use your brain, you fuckwit. If economic sanctions do not hurt the
>>> target country, the US wouldn't be so quick in using it as a weapon
>>> against any leader who refuses to fall in line.
>>>
>>> Think about it, shitface.
>>
>> Cuba is a WTO member and wide open to the rest of the world but they
>> are such a self-made mess that few bother with them:
>> http://havanajournal.com/business/C13/
>> "You STILL want to invest time and money in Cuba? You will lose both."
>
> The website is CIA's propaganda machine piece of work.

Bullshit.

[Rudy Canoza]

Bullshit. Castro did it. The economy was completely mismanaged.
Communism doesn't work - never has. Sending engineers and medical
doctors into the fields to harvest sugar cane doesn't work.

The sanctions could have ended in a heartbeat if Castro hadn't been
intent on fomenting revolution, enslaving his people and refusing to pay
compensation for seized property.

Castro did it. Everyone knows this.

[whit3rd]

On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-8, BNfEE⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛DuMnX wrote:

> No, the US condemned the overwhelming majority of Cubans to lives of
> grinding poverty with economic sanctions.

In the year or two after the revolution, all property (including US properties) in Cuba
were 'nationalized'. Stolen. The US cut off diplomatic ties, and put sanctions in place,
but it was Castro who burned every subsequent attempt at regularizing relations with Cuba.

Hundreds of thousands left Cuba during Castro's "administration". They had their reasons.

[Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas]

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> Rudy Canoza wrote on 11/27/2016 8:47 PM:

>> On 11/27/2016 4:11 AM, OuOwd⚛↠Ｍｉï½
> ‡ï½ˆï½”ï½™ ╬ ï¼·ï½ ï½Žï½Žï½ ï½‚ï½… →⚛pKCPF wrote:
>>>
>>> “Fidel Castro was a larger than life leader who served his peo

> ple for
>>> almost half a century.
>>
>> "Larger than life" doesn't mean good. Castro *never* served the
>> interests of the Cuban people. He condemned the overwhelming majority
>> of them to lives of grinding poverty and cruel repression.
>
> No, the US condemned the overwhelming majority of Cubans to lives of
> grinding poverty with economic sanctions.
>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_sanctions>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah bully boy thug Fidel had nothing to do with it.

Inside Fidel Castro’s life of luxury and ladies while country starved

With his shaggy beard and rumpled, olive-drab fatigues, Fidel Castro
presented himself to the world as a modest man of the people.

At times, he claimed he made just 900 pesos ($43) a month and lived in a
“fisherman’s hut” somewhere on the beach.

But Castro’s public image was a carefully crafted myth, more fiction than
fact.

“While his people suffered, Fidel Castro lived in comfort — keeping
everything, including his eight children, his many mistresses, even his
wife, a secret,” wrote Juan Reinaldo Sanchez, Castro’s longtime bodyguard.

Sanchez’s book, “The Double Life of Fidel Castro: My 17 Years as Personal
Bodyguard to El Líder Maximo,” describes his former boss’s hidden life of
political ruthlessness, mistresses and greed.

Castro, who died Friday night at 90, made a personal fortune offering safe
haven to drug traffickers, bedded a bevy of women over the decades, and
once threatened his own brother, Raul, with execution when the brother
lapsed into alcoholism in the ’90s, Sanchez’s book reveals.

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Amazingly, most Cubans had no idea how, or even where, their secretive
strongman actually lived.

Even his first and second wives were kept out of the public eye — as was
their leader’s two-timing.

Castro cheated on his first wife, the upper-middle-class Mirta Diaz-Balart,
with Natalia Revuelta.

“With her green eyes, her perfect face and her natural charm,” Revuelta was
one of Havana’s most beautiful women, Sanchez wrote — no matter that she,
too, was married at the start of their mid-’50s affair.

Diaz-Balart would bear Castro his first “official” son, Fidel Jr. or
“Fidelito,” and Revuelta would bear Castro his only daughter, Alina.

Castro cheated, too, on his second wife, seducing “comrade Celia Sanchez,
his private secretary, confidante and guard dog for 30 or so years,”
Sanchez wrote.

Castro also bedded his English interpreter, his French interpreter, and a
Cuban airline stewardess who attended him on foreign trips, Sanchez wrote.

“He doubtless had other relationships that I did not know about,” Sanchez
wrote.

Castro kept 20 luxurious properties throughout the Caribbean nation,
including his own island, accessed via a yacht decorated entirely in exotic
wood imported from Angola, Sanchez wrote.

Taking control of Cuba on New Year’s Day 1959, after his guerrilla army
routed the quarter-century-long dictatorship of Fulgencio Batista, Castro
vowed that unlike his hated predecessor, he’d share the nation’s wealth
with its poorest citizens.
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But while he made good on some of his promises to educate and care for his
people — building free schools and hospitals with the help of his Soviet
sponsors — Castro’s legacy was also one of repression and hypocrisy.

Deep poverty persisted — teen prostitution, crumbling houses, food rations.
Political opponents were executed by the thousands by firing squad, or
sentenced to decades of hard labor.

Castro had as many as 11 children with four women — only two of whom he was
married to — and numerous other mistresses, Sanchez wrote.

Only those closest to him knew of these affairs.

The only woman who dared to cause him any public scandal was his rebellious
daughter, Alina Fernandez Revuelta.

“I remember her in the 1980s, a pretty young woman who had become a model,”
Sanchez wrote.

“One day, when I was in Fidel’s anteroom, Pepín Naranjo, his aide-de-camp,
showed up with a copy of the magazine Cuba.

“Spread across its second page, Alina could be admired posing on a sailboat
in a bikini, in an advertisement for Havana Club rum.”

“What on earth is this?” Fidel exclaimed, according to Sanchez.

“Call Alina, at once!”

What followed was an epic father-daughter blowout.

“Two hours later, Alina strode into his office, not in the least ­
intimidated,” Sanchez recalled.

“The ensuing argument was the most memorable of them all: Shouting
reverberated all over the room, shaking the walls of the presidential
office.”

“Everybody knows you are my daughter! Posing in a bikini like that is
unseemly!” Castro raged.

Several years later, in 1993, Fidel learned through his secret service that
Alina was plotting to flee to the United States.

“I am warning you: Alina must not leave Cuba under any pretext or in any
way,” Castro told his head bodyguard, Col. Jose Delgado Castro, according
to Sanchez.

“You’ve been warned.”

Two months later, Alina put on a wig, packed a false Spanish passport, and,
with the help of a network of international accomplices, sneaked out of
Cuba.

This, too, ignited the dictator’s temper.

“One rarely sees the Comandante allowing his anger to explode,” Sanchez
wrote.

“In 17 years, I saw it only twice. But when Pepín broke the unpleasant news
to him that day, Fidel went mad with rage.

“Standing up, he stamped his feet on the ground while pointing his two
index fingers down to his toes and waving them around.”

“What a band of incompetent fools!” he cried. “I want those responsible! I
demand a report! I want to know how all this could have happened!”

Alina remains one of her father’s most outspoken opponents.

“When people tell me he’s a dictator, I tell them that’s not the right
word,” she told the Miami Herald.

“Strictly speaking, Fidel is a tyrant.”

Castro’s second wife and widow, Dalia Soto del Valle, is the least known of
Castro’s women, Sanchez noted.

They met in 1961. Castro noticed her in the audience as he gave an open-air
speech, Sanchez remembered.

“Fidel spotted in the first row a gorgeous girl with whom he rapidly
started exchanging furtive and meaningful glances,” Sanchez wrote.

After being vetted by his aide-de-camp, del Valle was installed in a
discreet house just outside Havana.

Eventually, they married and had five sons, who grew up in hidden luxury on
an estate outside Havana.

“With its orange, lemon, mandarin, grapefruit and banana trees, the estate
resembled a veritable garden of Eden — especially if one compared it with
the notorious ration book that all Cubans had to use to buy food,” Sanchez
wrote.

Each member of the family possessed his or her own cow, “so as to satisfy
each one’s individual taste, since the acidity and creaminess of fresh milk
varies from one cow to another.”

Disloyalty exacted a heavy price. Dissidents were jailed for as little as
handing out books on democracy.

Castro himself displayed little loyalty, either professionally or
personally.

Even his closest aides faced execution if it suited his agenda.

In the late ’80s, when an international scandal brewed over Castro’s
exchanges of safe haven for cash with Colombian cocaine traffickers, Castro
had no problem throwing those closest to him under the bus.

“Very simply, a huge drug-trafficking transaction was being carried out at
the highest echelons of the state,” Sanchez wrote.

Castro “was directing illegal operations like a real godfather,” Sanchez
wrote.

Revolutionary Gen. Arnaldo Ochoa, who had fought alongside Fidel and Raul
Castro, was at the center of the drug dealings, Sanchez said.

But when the US caught wind, Castro vowed an “official inquiry.”

Raul was forced to watch on closed-circuit TV as a kangaroo court tried and
convicted Ochoa — and then to watch the general’s execution by firing
squad.

“Castro made us watch it,” Sanchez recalled.

“That’s what the Comandante was capable of to keep his power: not just of
killing but also of humiliating and reducing to nothing men who had served
him devotedly.”

After Ochoa’s death, Raul plunged into alcoholism, drowning his grief and
humiliation with vodka.

“Listen, I’m talking to you as a brother,” Castro warned him.

“Swear to me that you will come out of this lamentable state and I promise
you nothing will happen to you.”

Raul, who perhaps knew best what his brother was capable of, complied.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/27/inside-fidel-castros-life-of-luxury-and-
ladies-while-country-starved/

Even his daughter thought he was a piece of shit

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"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."--
Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:33:54 -0500, laeNO?? ?????? ? ??????? ??cEHEl
<yl...@BqZWI.com> wrote:

>>
>> So Canada is not US friendly? Given that they and the Neatherlands
>> do a fair amount of business with Cuba....where is all that money
>> going?
>
>The only business in large quantity that I know is cane sugar from Cuba.
>Maybe there is a loophole in the US imposed economic sanctions against
>Cuba that exempts cane sugar, but that is not enough to lift them out of
>poverty much.
>
>
>>
>> Its interesting to watch the blubs coming from Cuba..the night
>> shots..with a huge crowd of people...and only 3-4 cellphones lighting
>> up the night. Seems that they give cellphones away to anyone who
>> wants one here in the States...odd how the Cubanos seem to be
>> surprisingly short on them. What..the Canadians are keeping them all
>> to themselves?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_mobile_phone_companies
>>
>> None of those Canadian companies bothered to provide service to the
>> prosperous peoples of Cuba? Heavens! Why not?
>>
>> Hummmm?
>
>Are you stupid or what? You cannot afford cellphones when you don't have
>money. The economic sanctions imposed by the US impoverished them.
>

You still claiming that Canada and the rest of the world cant do
business with Cuba because of US sanctions?

Really?

Post your cites, else be proven to be an utter moron on your GOOD days

[Gunner Asch]

And of course they keep their pocket change in the Banco Nacional de
Cuba

[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:20:15 -0500, aWnje?? ?????? ? ??????? ??GqYUU
<Vj...@xoYqX.com> wrote:

>>
>> This says Cape Cod:
>> http://havanajournal.com/home/about/#ABOUT US
>
>The US is anti-Castro. The US is harbouring a large population of
>anti-Castro Cuban expat and their descendants. The website is hosted by
>a bunch of Americans and based in the US. How neutral and honest, you
>think, can the opinion expressed on that website be?
>
>>
>> My best English-language source on Russia is based in Vermont.
>
>Sure, that is another CIA piece of work.
>
>It is simple to understand if you answer the following question:
>
>Can the Russians trust a Russia-run, Russian-language website based in
>Moscow to be honest and neutral about the US?
>

So you are saying all the cubano expats are lying about your asshole
buddy Castro?

Really?

ROFLMAO!!!!