On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:16:00 -0500, "Scout"
<
me4...@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> wrote:
> "Just Wondering" <
fmh...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:n2mNB.4558$Fz6....@fx41.iad...
> > On 11/10/2017 11:05 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
> >> On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:42:28 -0700, Winston_Smith
> >> <
inv...@butterfly.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:15:44 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
> >>>> "Winston_Smith" wrote
> >>>
> >>>>> The other call from the left this past week have been we need
to
> >>>>> outlaw assault weapons. Please consult any dictionary. They
aren't
> >>>>> banned but getting one is long and costly and the damn thing
has to be
> >>>>> 50 years old.
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually you're thinking of assault rifles. Assault weapons is
a purely
> >>>> fabricated term made up for the express purpose of confusing
people by
> >>>> getting them to think machine guns rather than ordinary
> >>>> semi-automatics. The
> >>>> first defining characteristic of ANY assault weapon in any
legislation
> >>>> proposed or enacted is that it's a semi-automatic.....
> >>>
> >>> In the histories I've read, the low capacity, high power rifle
of WW1
> >>> and WW2 came to be called an infantry or battle rifle. It
required
> >>> some marksmanship. Most soldiers at that time came from rural
areas
> >>> and already knew how to shoot.
> >>>
> >>> The assault rifle is high capacity, high fire rate, lighter, not
> >>> designed as much for high accuracy. Particularly it means full
auto.
> >>> The grand daddy was the German Sturmgewehr of WW2, which
translates to
> >>> Assault Rifle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgewehr_44
> >>>
> >>> The idea there is not hitting a particular target (while being
a good
> >>> target yourself); it's to place a sheet of suppression fire to
make
> >>> the enemy keep their head down while your guys make a dash to
the next
> >>> cover. That is to say -- assault.
> >>>
> >>> Fast forward a couple decades to when the American army
discovered
> >>> most recruits were city boys and it took more than a few days
to teach
> >>> them to shoot. Switch from the precision battle rifle to the
mass
> >>> produced assault rifle for everyone. Spray and prey.
> >>>
> >>> To make the volumes of ammunition carryable, it has to become
smaller
> >>> and lighter. The Sturmgewehr started down that road by
shortening the
> >>> 7.92×57mm almost in half to 7.92×33mm Kurz.
> >>>
> >>> With newer powders and other technologies, that evolved into the
> >>> 5.56x45mm for the M14 of Nam; the AR-15 is the civilian,
semi-auto
> >>> copy/look-a-like.
> >>>
> >>> "Assault rifle" has a particular meaning in military
terminology -
> >>> full auto. The idiot politicians just mis-used it because it
sounds
> >>> evil. Full auto has never been available to civilians in any
quantity
> >>> and without cost and effort. Full auto has never been used in a
mass
> >>> shooting.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone is invited to correct my understanding if I have
something
> >>> wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_rifle
> >>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
> >>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15
> >>>
> >>>> What they can't explain is how an AR15, an assault weapon, is
so much
> >>>> more
> >>>> dangerous than a Mini14, ordinary sporting rifle.....
> >>>
> >>>> The answer, is they aren't concerned about function, but
purely a
> >>>> matter of
> >>>> appearance.
> >>>
> >>> Looks are everything in today's world. I could trick out my
Ruger
> >>> 10-22 to look like an AR. In fact, a .22LR AR-look-alike is a
common
> >>> item in any gun store today. Diane and her friends don't
understand
> >>> guns, don't want to soil their psyche by learning about the evil
> >>> things, so they just go by what it looks like.
> >>
> >> Ask yourself why so many mass killers are using AR look-alike
rifles
> >
> > "So many"? How many is "so many"? What is an "AR look-alike
rifle"? What
> > percent of the total population of mass killers who use AR
look-alike
> > rifles? What good is it for the reader to ask himself? You
should be
> > asking the killer, only he knows the answer.
> > ,
> >> rather than Mini 14s, and the answer will soon become obvious.
> >>
> >> And no, it's not because they're sophisticated gun owners who
prefer
> >> the way the bolt locks up on an AR-15, for the sake of
engineering
> >> elegance.
> >
> > So you've already interviewed all the mass killers and obtained
their
> > explanations for choosing their weapons?
> And one more point....given the shear number of "AR look-alike
rifles" are
> their use in mass killings typical of the number represented within
the body
> of all guns?
> After all, the AR platform, and it's look alikes, is the most
popular rifle
> platform in history.
> I also understand that fords and ford look alikes constitute a lot
of the
> get away vehicles used in heists.
> Maybe we should ban Ford from making automobiles and everyone else
from
> making anything that looks even remotely like any Ford ever
produced?
Wow didn't see your post. I wrote almost the same thing =)