Huh. George Bush ain't that bad of a guy after all...

[Tim]

Harry, that guy you hated so much is being treated well by history. From CNN no doubt.

Hindsight, Harry. You gotta love hindsight...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/george-w-bush-favorable-poll/index.html

[Keyser Soze]

Dubya is speaking out against Shithole Trump and in fact looks decent
compared to Trump. Not surprising.

[Tim]

Keyser Soze
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Dubya is speaking out against Shithole Trump and in fact looks decent
compared to Trump. Not surprising.

....

Odd, in this article he doesn’t bad mouth Trump at all.
It does say. “Because Bush’s speech was immediately interpreted as a presidential censure of the current Oval Office occupant, Democratic pundits heaped praise upon Bush. Although Bush never mentioned President Donald Trump, the narrative set up immediately – Bush had warned the nation forcefully about “Trumpism” and its impact on our national unity....”

And what he was meaning is that Trump was fount to rock the immigration boat and a lot wouldn’t like it.

Of course you would think he was down on the Donald because that’s how you’re geared.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/10/24/democrats_george_w_bush_nostalgia_smacks_of_political_opportunism_135343.amp.html

[justan]

Tim <tsch...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

> Keyser Soze
> - show quoted text -
> Dubya is speaking out against Shithole Trump and in fact looks decent
> compared to Trump. Not surprising.
>
> ....
>

> Odd, in this article he doesn?t bad mouth Trump at all.
> It does say. ?Because Bush?s speech was immediately interpreted as a presidential censure of the current Oval Office occupant, Democratic pundits heaped praise upon Bush. Although Bush never mentioned President Donald Trump, the narrative set up immediately ? Bush had warned the nation forcefully about ?Trumpism? and its impact on our national unity....?
>
> And what he was meaning is that Trump was fount to rock the immigration boat and a lot wouldn?t like it.
>
> Of course you would think he was down on the Donald because that?s how you?re geared.
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/10/24/democrats_george_w_bush_nostalgia_smacks_of_political_opportunism_135343.amp.html
>

It's amazing how the liberal mind works...........or doesn't work.
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[gfre...@aol.com]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:21:49 -0500, Keyser Soze <no...@jose.com>
wrote:

Presidents are like wine, they seem to get better with time.
I am really surprised you are not hailing Nixon as the most
"progressive" president since the Roosevelts.
You probably should. Too bad your people had him killed him off, Who
knows what wonderful things he might have done next.

[Tim]

Jan 25gfre...@aol.com

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:21:49 -0500, Keyser Soze <no...@jose.com>
wrote:

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Presidents are like wine, they seem to get better with time.
I am really surprised you are not hailing Nixon as the most
"progressive" president since the Roosevelts.
You probably should. Too bad your people had him killed him off, Who
knows what wonderful things he might have done next.

...
Killed off? Nixon or Kennedy?

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison
in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was fucking
Marilyn Monroe and getting shot.

[Tim]

gfre...@aol.com

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:55:11 -0800 (PST), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Both, one literally, the other figuratively but there is no comparison
in what they accomplished. Kennedy's main claim to fame was fucking
Marilyn Monroe and getting shot.

...

Jack was taken out way too early. Shame too. I look back at history and thought he could have done some great things. One thing about him was he could sure deliver a great speech...

[Bill]

Well, he did have the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crises on his CV.

[Bill]

He was not a real successful President. But he would most likely not have
used Tonkin Gulf as an excuse to crank up the war. I heard he was trying
to get us out of the debacle.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:46:24 -0800 (PST), Tim <tsch...@gmail.com>

I am not as convinced. He was an arrogant jerk who almost destroyed
the world for no real reason and his brother shredded the
constitution. Other than that I suppose he did look good on TV.

[gfre...@aol.com]

"Trying" in a "put in more troops" sort of way. I agree LBJ was worse,
turning a little regional civil war into a massive debacle that killed
65000 Americans and millions of Vietnamese.
Cuba was a total disaster from start to finish. The "missile crisis"
was totally unnecessary and after almost blowing up the world, we
ended up with the deal Krushchev wanted in the first place.
We pulled our old missiles out of Turkey and agreed not to put new
ones back. That was the object of the exercise and in the end that was
what happened. In the mean time Kennedy's ego and stupidity almost
started WWIII. He did not know that there were already tactical nukes
in Cuba, ready to go and he also did not know the subs had nuclear
torpedoes on board. One political officer stopped the nuclear
holocaust by telling a sub captain not to fire after we attacked his
boat.

[Tim]

you may be right. I was 7 yrs old when he was assassinated. I'm looking far into retrospect.

[Bill]

Camelot. Since he really screwed the pooch in his short time as
President, but looked good, talked well, had a nice looking wife (who he
played around on, and she to do the same playing around. Who the press
seemed to overlook) and killed. The presidency was glossed up.

[gfre...@aol.com]

There was a very good chance that he was going to lose the 64
election. That is why he was in Dallas in the first place, trying to
get the solid southern democrat vote back.

[Keyser Söze]

If the Kennedys were Repubs, Fretwell would be praising their virtues.

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[Bill]

And you would be Dissing them.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:46:43 -0500, Keyser Söze <no...@jose.com>
wrote:

Not likely, it is personal with me. If you are running an illegal wire
tap on a residential phone, in an attempt to pierce the lawyer client
privilege, I won't like you no matter what party you are in.
BTW you don't hear a lot of praise from me about either Bush or even
Reagan. Ford may be the last GOP president I actually had a lot of
respect for and Chevy Chase killed him.

[Keyser Söze]

<gfre...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 27 Jan 2018 21:52:45 GMT, Keyser Soze <no...@jose.com> wrote:

>> Lose to who?
>
> We might have actually seen Nixon again but Goldwater had a much
> better chance against a live JFK than LBJ over the body of a dead
> president.
> By September of 63 K's approval ratings had fallen to the lowest in
> his presidency and there was not even anyone from the GOP reminding us
> how bad things were going. I was in DC every day at that time 2 blocks
> from his house. The blood was in the water.
>

Lose to who?

[Alex]

Keyser Soze wrote:

> Lose to who?
>

whom?

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:25:56 -0500, Keyser Söze <no...@jose.com>

Goldwater? Nixon? Romney?, that's if he gets past the LBJ primary
challenge. Like I said, the blood was in the water. Maybe the news
didn't get to Connecticut. They were too busy talking about Jackie's
new hat.

[Keyser Söze]

None of them had a chance in 1964. Nixon lost and it was too soon to run
again. Goldwater was too for out there. Romney? Nah. And I was living in
Kansas.

[Keyser Soze]

That's just stupid. I volunteered for a GOP House candidate in 1960, and
I was still too young to vote in 1964. I liked Nixon and I liked Gerry
Ford.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:52:40 -0500, Keyser Söze <no...@jose.com>

Ah yes, The political nerve center of the nation ... Kansas. That is
almost like being in DC going to a private school with the kids of
politically connected parents.
Kennedy was in trouble. People were basically starting to ask "We see
the beefcake but where is the beef"?
The democrats were disillusioned and wondering if they did not just
have the ticket flipped.
JFK had a filibuster proof senate (65 votes) and a big majority in the
house and yet they were not seeing much coming out of it. The buzz was
Johnson might have taken a run at JFK in 64. To start with, he knew
how sick Kennedy really was. Lots of people knew he was not right but
the news covered it up ... just like FDR. Johnson was not that nice.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:50:53 -0500, Keyser Soze <no...@jose.com>
wrote:

>That's just stupid. I volunteered for a GOP House candidate in 1960, and
>I was still too young to vote in 1964. I liked Nixon and I liked Gerry
>Ford.

As I stated before, you should have loved Nixon. He was the best big
government democrat you could ever hope for. A lot of people on the
right thought we were egregiously betrayed. That may have been why
Goldwater was on the side of shit canning him.

[Mr. Luddite]

In many ways Trump reminds me of LBJ, not so much in agenda issues but
in personalities. Both are/were bullies.

[Keyser Soze]

LBJ understood government and the legislative process, and among other
things, got the Civil Rights bill passed. Trump is a pig with no
governmental or legislative talents, and would rescind what is left of
the Civil Rights bill, if he could. Johnson has many great
accomplishments and a colossal failure. Trump transferred more of the
nation's wealth to the rich.

[Mr. Luddite]

All I said was that both personalities were/are those of a bully.
BTW, what is your secret source of information that indicates that Trump
would rescind the Civil Rights bill? Real info or more "Fake News"?

[Keyser Soze]

Trump is a racist. There are racists in his administration. The most
prominent is Steve Miller.

[Bill]

And was the Republicans in Congress who passed the Civil Rights act.

[Mr. Luddite]

It's sad that someone with your intelligence so easily buys into
whatever the latest, popular claims of the left are.

I have little respect for Joy Reid or Maxine Waters. I think they both
exhibit reverse racism. Both are black. Does that mean I am a racist?

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:37:24 -0500, Keyser Soze <no...@jose.com>
wrote:

How much of that Vietnam budget went to the rich? (Dow, Dupont,
General Dynamics, Boeing, Raytheon) We understand it was the poor who
were dying. Rich kids who served, were in the rear with the gear or
they just dodged the draft altogether.

[gfre...@aol.com]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 11:34:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
<nowa...@nowhere.net> wrote:


>It's sad that someone with your intelligence so easily buys into
>whatever the latest, popular claims of the left are.
>
>I have little respect for Joy Reid or Maxine Waters. I think they both
>exhibit reverse racism. Both are black. Does that mean I am a racist?
>

Of course you are racist, you disagreed with Harry didn't you?

[Keyser Soze]

No, I don't believe you are a racist. But I think most of Trump's "base"
supporters are.