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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 23, 2016, 4:18:44 PM4/23/16
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I mean, is he a tree hugger or a tree cutter? Judging by his followers (the Christians) he's more of a tree cutter.
I think he's coming with a bulldozer uprooting trees and driving species into extinction. What the heck, he can snap them back into existence!
Cool, very cool!
http://i.imgur.com/ZilsBah.jpg
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I think he's coming with a bulldozer uprooting trees and driving species into extinction. What the heck, he can snap them back into existence!
Cool, very cool!
http://i.imgur.com/ZilsBah.jpg
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"The jungle has never been this much fun!"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nffbCR_uCZ6znjf3gLiFRXSAoLzhWtoZ6U4S7Y37aKc/edit?usp=sharing
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 23, 2016, 5:13:32 PM4/23/16
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On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:47:28 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:38:10 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
> >
>
> Being a carpenter, he would kill a tree and then torture it. 😐
I think this metaphor is quite inappropriate. He would a kill a tree and then dismember it.
> On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:38:10 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:15:09 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > > I mean, is he a tree hugger or a tree cutter?
> >
> > He was like velcro, but with nails.
> > > I mean, is he a tree hugger or a tree cutter?
> >
> >
> > >Judging by his followers (the Christians) he's more of a tree cutter.
> >
> > Frankly, I think he was a waste of a tree.
> > >Judging by his followers (the Christians) he's more of a tree cutter.
> >
> >
>
> Being a carpenter, he would kill a tree and then torture it. 😐
I think this metaphor is quite inappropriate. He would a kill a tree and then dismember it.
avag...@gmail.com
Apr 23, 2016, 6:07:18 PM4/23/16
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W. Wesley Groleau
Apr 24, 2016, 5:06:25 PM4/24/16
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On 04-23-2016 22:18, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> I mean, is he a tree hugger or a tree cutter? Judging by his followers (the Christians) he's more of a tree cutter.
Once again, you demonstrate ignorance of Christians.
> I mean, is he a tree hugger or a tree cutter? Judging by his followers (the Christians) he's more of a tree cutter.
If you don't like them, just ignore them. You don't seem as foolish
that way.
--
Wes Groleau
avag...@gmail.com
Apr 24, 2016, 5:31:54 PM4/24/16
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 25, 2016, 4:01:10 AM4/25/16
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The Amish have been doing that, though for some strange reason, they don't embrace the bike. I'm sure people who drive without a good reason, go to hell.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 27, 2016, 11:08:57 PM4/27/16
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On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 10:33:40 PM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 5:48:05 PM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > Christians are a living contradiction:
>
> how's that?
>
>
> >
> > Can a Christian be a Social Darwinist?
>
> what do you mean by that?
>
> >
> > And yet, Social Darwinism seems to be the default philosophy of economics in this social context. "Survival of the fittest" is rejected as a biological explanation of the creation and survival of species, but it is embraced as the basis for proper economics.
>
>
> give examples.
Voting Republican would be a prime example. They promote social Darwinism. Didn't you notice? Not that the Democrats promote something very different. Some form of socialism would be more attune to Christianity.
A comment following the article:
"In all honesty-- at the end of a day -- if a person reads their Bible and sincerely looks at the text, a person couldn't be a Social Darwinist. At least, I couldn't be a Social Darwinist. My conscience would nag at me.
I am sorry this is even a discussion, but it is a necessary one. I don't know if everyone across America's political landscape is really thinking out the implications of what is Social Darwinism, and how this plays out in American and World politics and economics."
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2012/05/can-a-christian-be-a-social-darwinist/
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 5:48:05 PM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > Christians are a living contradiction:
>
> how's that?
>
>
> >
> > Can a Christian be a Social Darwinist?
>
> what do you mean by that?
>
> >
> > And yet, Social Darwinism seems to be the default philosophy of economics in this social context. "Survival of the fittest" is rejected as a biological explanation of the creation and survival of species, but it is embraced as the basis for proper economics.
>
>
> give examples.
Voting Republican would be a prime example. They promote social Darwinism. Didn't you notice? Not that the Democrats promote something very different. Some form of socialism would be more attune to Christianity.
A comment following the article:
"In all honesty-- at the end of a day -- if a person reads their Bible and sincerely looks at the text, a person couldn't be a Social Darwinist. At least, I couldn't be a Social Darwinist. My conscience would nag at me.
I am sorry this is even a discussion, but it is a necessary one. I don't know if everyone across America's political landscape is really thinking out the implications of what is Social Darwinism, and how this plays out in American and World politics and economics."
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/rogereolson/2012/05/can-a-christian-be-a-social-darwinist/
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 28, 2016, 9:38:16 AM4/28/16
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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 9:06:50 AM UTC-4, competeti...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 2:15:45 AM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 11:30:44 PM UTC-4, competeti...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 11:20:51 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > > > Maybe it's because they are not very smart. 😐
> > >
> > > They aren't any dumber than people who believe Buddhist horseshit.
> > >
> > > ---
> >
> > It may just be the case that they are playing dumb instead of being dumb.
>
> It's a psychological phenomenon connected to self esteem, and a willing
> suspension of disbelief to facilitate the fantasy that life itself
> isn't immersed, enmeshed, in a closed system of death and consumption.
>
> In other words, religions brainwash folks so they can pretend they won't
> die, and that they know what reality is about when they really don't.
>
> The beginning of being a "real" person is to first eliminate fear. All
> real life follows this.
>
> ---
Jesus may be the perfect camouflage for the predator. And it may the ultimate consolation for the pray.
One day in Africa, a missionary was walking around Bible in hand. All of a sudden a lion, who happened to be hungry, decided that the missionary was a fine meal and charged at him. The missionary went on his knees and prayed, “Jesus, make this beast stop.” The lion stops and goes, “Thank you, Jesus, for this wonderful dinner!”
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 2:15:45 AM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 11:30:44 PM UTC-4, competeti...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 11:20:51 PM UTC-4, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > > > Maybe it's because they are not very smart. 😐
> > >
> > > They aren't any dumber than people who believe Buddhist horseshit.
> > >
> > > ---
> >
> > It may just be the case that they are playing dumb instead of being dumb.
>
> It's a psychological phenomenon connected to self esteem, and a willing
> suspension of disbelief to facilitate the fantasy that life itself
> isn't immersed, enmeshed, in a closed system of death and consumption.
>
> In other words, religions brainwash folks so they can pretend they won't
> die, and that they know what reality is about when they really don't.
>
> The beginning of being a "real" person is to first eliminate fear. All
> real life follows this.
>
> ---
Jesus may be the perfect camouflage for the predator. And it may the ultimate consolation for the pray.
One day in Africa, a missionary was walking around Bible in hand. All of a sudden a lion, who happened to be hungry, decided that the missionary was a fine meal and charged at him. The missionary went on his knees and prayed, “Jesus, make this beast stop.” The lion stops and goes, “Thank you, Jesus, for this wonderful dinner!”
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 28, 2016, 10:18:23 PM4/28/16
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On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 8:11:12 PM UTC-4, Vito wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
> Humble Philosopher" <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Pagans had goddesses and spirits that took into account the environment and the animals and plants.
>
> That's more myth than fact. For example, everybody 'knows' the plains
> Indians were environmentalists. Truth is they camped on one spot
> until it was thoroughly polluted and hunted out then moved to another
> spot.
The fact is that they lived on this land for 40,000 years without stressing the environment. It only took the Christians 200 years to succeed in following God's command of 'multiply and conquer.'
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT), "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most
> Humble Philosopher" <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Pagans had goddesses and spirits that took into account the environment and the animals and plants.
>
> That's more myth than fact. For example, everybody 'knows' the plains
> Indians were environmentalists. Truth is they camped on one spot
> until it was thoroughly polluted and hunted out then moved to another
> spot.
The fact is that they lived on this land for 40,000 years without stressing the environment. It only took the Christians 200 years to succeed in following God's command of 'multiply and conquer.'
Mike A Schwab
Apr 29, 2016, 9:53:20 AM4/29/16
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On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 3:01:10 AM UTC-5, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
>
> They are welcomed to abandon the evil car and embrace the bike. 👍
>
> The Amish have been doing that, though for some strange reason, they don't embrace the bike. I'm sure people who drive without a good reason, go to hell.
When they don't need the cargo capacity of a wagon, many Amish ride bicycles to get around.
>
> They are welcomed to abandon the evil car and embrace the bike. 👍
>
> The Amish have been doing that, though for some strange reason, they don't embrace the bike. I'm sure people who drive without a good reason, go to hell.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 29, 2016, 7:55:48 PM4/29/16
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 29, 2016, 7:56:12 PM4/29/16
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On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 4:11:39 PM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 7:31:18 AM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-4, Vito wrote:
> > > >The fact is that they lived on this land for 40,000 years without stressing the environment. It only took the Christians 200 years to succeed in following God's command of 'multiply and conquer.'-
> > >
> > > Well, actually, only about 12,000 years here on the American plains,
> > > but the rest is true. They did this by limiting their population.
> > > Infants born in times of stress were left to die. There is a lesson
> > > there.
> >
> > Christians are just the opposite: Let them all be born and then struggle in life.
> >
> > The term OVERPOPULATION is meaningless to them.
>
> Open your eyes, the world is not over-populated and never will be. There is a lot of desert land that needs to be developed. Trees need to grow there and also lawns.
Ever care to know the distinction between desert land and arable land?
Population is growing fast, but arable land is going down...
"The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned."
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/02/arable-land-soil-food-security-shortage
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Oh, it's the "evil scientists" that are saying that. It must be another conspiracy. ;)
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 7:31:18 AM UTC-7, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher wrote:
> > On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-4, Vito wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, actually, only about 12,000 years here on the American plains,
> > > but the rest is true. They did this by limiting their population.
> > > Infants born in times of stress were left to die. There is a lesson
> > > there.
> >
> > Christians are just the opposite: Let them all be born and then struggle in life.
> >
> > The term OVERPOPULATION is meaningless to them.
>
> Open your eyes, the world is not over-populated and never will be. There is a lot of desert land that needs to be developed. Trees need to grow there and also lawns.
Ever care to know the distinction between desert land and arable land?
Population is growing fast, but arable land is going down...
"The world has lost a third of its arable land due to erosion or pollution in the past 40 years, with potentially disastrous consequences as global demand for food soars, scientists have warned."
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/02/arable-land-soil-food-security-shortage
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Oh, it's the "evil scientists" that are saying that. It must be another conspiracy. ;)
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 30, 2016, 5:01:54 PM4/30/16
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On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
> check this out:
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reclamation-of-man-made-desert/
>
> land is being reclaimed.
The cost would outgrow the productivity of the land. The easier path is to become vegetarian or something. Even so, there's a limit:
Aside from the limited availability of freshwater, there are indeed constraints on the amount of food that Earth can produce, just as Malthus argued more than 200 years ago. Even in the case of maximum efficiency, in which all the grains grown are dedicated to feeding humans (instead of livestock, which is an inefficient way to convert plant energy into food energy), there's still a limit to how far the available quantities can stretch. "If everyone agreed to become vegetarian, leaving little or nothing for livestock, the present 1.4 billion hectares of arable land (3.5 billion acres) would support about 10 billion people..."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/many-people-earth-actually-hold-161120761.html
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Malthus was right, Christians are wrong. The best we can do is PREVENTION, such as riding a bicycle.
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reclamation-of-man-made-desert/
>
> land is being reclaimed.
The cost would outgrow the productivity of the land. The easier path is to become vegetarian or something. Even so, there's a limit:
Aside from the limited availability of freshwater, there are indeed constraints on the amount of food that Earth can produce, just as Malthus argued more than 200 years ago. Even in the case of maximum efficiency, in which all the grains grown are dedicated to feeding humans (instead of livestock, which is an inefficient way to convert plant energy into food energy), there's still a limit to how far the available quantities can stretch. "If everyone agreed to become vegetarian, leaving little or nothing for livestock, the present 1.4 billion hectares of arable land (3.5 billion acres) would support about 10 billion people..."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/many-people-earth-actually-hold-161120761.html
***
Malthus was right, Christians are wrong. The best we can do is PREVENTION, such as riding a bicycle.
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
Apr 30, 2016, 5:03:44 PM4/30/16
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On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 9:53:20 AM UTC-4, Mike A Schwab wrote:
Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
May 1, 2016, 9:22:22 AM5/1/16
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On Sunday, May 1, 2016 at 8:30:50 AM UTC-4, gamo wrote:
> El 30/04/16 a las 23:01, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
> escribió:
> Only the spirituality prevent humans from falling from a higher climb.
>
> --
> http://gamo.eu.pn/
> The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance
I'll think about it next time I'm in a traffic jam. Are they going up or down?
> El 30/04/16 a las 23:01, Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
> escribió:
> > Malthus was right, Christians are wrong. The best we can do is PREVENTION, such as riding a bicycle.
>
> Just the reverse. Violence is declining and we are not outnumbered.
>
> Only the spirituality prevent humans from falling from a higher climb.
>
> --
> http://gamo.eu.pn/
> The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance
I'll think about it next time I'm in a traffic jam. Are they going up or down?
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