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Sir Ridesalot
Aug 21, 2016, 4:22:31 AM8/21/16
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"...jailed for 12 months after he caused the death of a grandmother when he knocked her over in Hereford city centre."
"Daryl Gittoes was seen weaving through pedestrians in Commercial Street on an unroadworthy BMX-style scrap bike with no brakes which he had picked out a of a skip, Worcester Crown Court heard.
He had been warned by police not to ride the bike through the pedestrianised area between 10.30am and 4.30pm when all vehicles were banned, said Christopher Lester, prosecuting.
But on July 30 last year, he was seen on CCTV at about 3pm riding along the busy street as crowds walked past the market stalls.
Mary Evans, 73, had gone with her friend from her home in Droitwich to visit a sewing shop in Hereford and they were on their way back to the railway station when Gittoes tried to ride between them, Mr Lester said.
Mrs Evans was knocked over and could not break her fall. Her head hit the pavement, fracturing her skull and she died from her injuries in hospital eight days later.
Gittoes, of Homestead, Hereford, pleaded guilty to wilful misconduct while riding the bike."
Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year despite having 11 prior convictions?
Just shows why some of us think bicycles should NOT be on sidewalks in business sections.
Full article here.
http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/13348329.Cyclist_jailed_after_causing_the_death_of_grandmother_in_city_centre/
Cheers
"Daryl Gittoes was seen weaving through pedestrians in Commercial Street on an unroadworthy BMX-style scrap bike with no brakes which he had picked out a of a skip, Worcester Crown Court heard.
He had been warned by police not to ride the bike through the pedestrianised area between 10.30am and 4.30pm when all vehicles were banned, said Christopher Lester, prosecuting.
But on July 30 last year, he was seen on CCTV at about 3pm riding along the busy street as crowds walked past the market stalls.
Mary Evans, 73, had gone with her friend from her home in Droitwich to visit a sewing shop in Hereford and they were on their way back to the railway station when Gittoes tried to ride between them, Mr Lester said.
Mrs Evans was knocked over and could not break her fall. Her head hit the pavement, fracturing her skull and she died from her injuries in hospital eight days later.
Gittoes, of Homestead, Hereford, pleaded guilty to wilful misconduct while riding the bike."
Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year despite having 11 prior convictions?
Just shows why some of us think bicycles should NOT be on sidewalks in business sections.
Full article here.
http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/13348329.Cyclist_jailed_after_causing_the_death_of_grandmother_in_city_centre/
Cheers
jon...@breathe.com
Aug 21, 2016, 6:02:08 AM8/21/16
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Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-398901/Fury-driver-killed-cyclists-fined-180.html
http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/node/948
a small selection of real stories here if you're interested. getting killed by a cyclist on the footpath in uk is almost unheard of , by a motor on the footpath about 10 per year last time I looked
DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
Aug 21, 2016, 8:03:17 AM8/21/16
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obviously granny moved into the bike's path thus causing her death. Is it not true ?
the cyclist is a clear and present danger to the general pop n needs observation...poss 10 lashes.
jon...@breathe.com
Aug 21, 2016, 8:17:02 AM8/21/16
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> Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year despite having 11 prior convictions?
>
not 11 prior police warnings , but a prison sentence:
> Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year despite having 11 prior convictions?
>
http://www.scotsman.com/news/motorist-who-caused-death-of-cyclists-spared-jail-1-2919275
Tosspot
Aug 21, 2016, 8:50:33 AM8/21/16
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Sir Ridesalot
Aug 21, 2016, 9:18:52 AM8/21/16
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'“Mrs Fyfe wasn’t to blame in any way for the accident. However, she was not wearing a safety helmet and that, in my view, contributed to her death.”'
Does that mean it's open season in Scotland on any bicyclist not wearing a helmet? Ridiculous ruling by that judge. It should have been based on what the driver did/didn't do not what the victim was/wasn't wearing.
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Frank Krygowski
Aug 21, 2016, 9:24:01 AM8/21/16
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Frank Krygowski
Aug 21, 2016, 9:31:52 AM8/21/16
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way for the accident. However, she was not wearing a safety helmet and
that, in my view, contributed to her death.”
Same cause of death as the pedestrian, but it's only the cyclist victim
that, in my view, contributed to her death.”
who gets called out for not wearing a helmet. And despite the
disclaimer, that certainly sounds like blaming the victim.
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- Frank Krygowski
W. Wesley Groleau
Aug 21, 2016, 11:53:57 AM8/21/16
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On 08-21-2016 05:02, jon...@breathe.com wrote:
> a small selection of real stories here if you're interested. getting killed by a cyclist on the footpath in uk is almost unheard of , by a motor on the footpath about 10 per year last time I looked
I presume you don't think rarity
> a small selection of real stories here if you're interested. getting killed by a cyclist on the footpath in uk is almost unheard of , by a motor on the footpath about 10 per year last time I looked
justifies the ridiculously light sentence.
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Wes Groleau
Duane
Aug 21, 2016, 12:50:04 PM8/21/16
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applied to the lack of a bike helmet before. Not a good precedence.
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duane
Frank Krygowski
Aug 21, 2016, 3:47:36 PM8/21/16
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On 8/21/2016 12:50 PM, Duane wrote:
> Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cyc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 8:17:02 AM UTC-4, jon...@breathe.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a
>>>> bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year
>>>> despite having 11 prior convictions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> not 11 prior police warnings , but a prison sentence:
>>>
>>> http://www.scotsman.com/news/motorist-who-caused-death-of-cyclists-spared-jail-1-2919275
>>
>> Interesting sentence in the article:
>>
>> '“Mrs Fyfe wasn’t to blame in any way for the accident. However, she was
>> not wearing a safety helmet and that, in my view, contributed to her death.”'
>>
>> Does that mean it's open season in Scotland on any bicyclist not wearing
>> a helmet? Ridiculous ruling by that judge. It should have been based on
>> what the driver did/didn't do not what the victim was/wasn't wearing
>
> Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cyc...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 8:17:02 AM UTC-4, jon...@breathe.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you imagine the hue and cry there would have been if it had been a
>>>> bicyclist hit and killed by a car and the driver got only 1 year
>>>> despite having 11 prior convictions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> not 11 prior police warnings , but a prison sentence:
>>>
>>> http://www.scotsman.com/news/motorist-who-caused-death-of-cyclists-spared-jail-1-2919275
>>
>> Interesting sentence in the article:
>>
>> '“Mrs Fyfe wasn’t to blame in any way for the accident. However, she was
>> not wearing a safety helmet and that, in my view, contributed to her death.”'
>>
>> Does that mean it's open season in Scotland on any bicyclist not wearing
>> a helmet? Ridiculous ruling by that judge. It should have been based on
>> what the driver did/didn't do not what the victim was/wasn't wearing
>
> Contributory negligence isn't a new thing but I don't think I've heard it
> applied to the lack of a bike helmet before. Not a good precedence.
It has absolutely been tried in Britain and Germany. From what I've
> applied to the lack of a bike helmet before. Not a good precedence.
heard, it hasn't succeeded yet. But some helmet fanatics probably hope
it does succeed.
http://www.cyclistsdefencefund.org.uk/cycle-helmets-and-contributory-negligence
http://road.cc/content/news/121433-going-helmet-free-not-contributory-negligence-german-appeal-court-rules
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- Frank Krygowski
Tosspot
Aug 21, 2016, 6:14:37 PM8/21/16
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John B.
Aug 21, 2016, 8:12:54 PM8/21/16
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views the seriousness of the crime.
Treason has, historically, met with extraordinarily severe punishment,
because it threatened the security of the state.
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cheers,
John B.
DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
Aug 21, 2016, 8:34:04 PM8/21/16
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DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
Aug 21, 2016, 8:34:48 PM8/21/16
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AMuzi
Aug 22, 2016, 8:01:21 AM8/22/16
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does it make?"
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John B.
Aug 22, 2016, 8:21:16 PM8/22/16
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Way back when if you killed someone his brother hid behind a rock and
when you strolled by he bashed your brains out. A tooth for a tooth,
one might say.
Now (it appears) killing someone is such a minor thing that only a
fine is levied and in some cases, I read, the "killer" protest the
fine as it is too much for him to pay. No more tooth for tooth, now
perhaps only "a fart in a wind storm".
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cheers,
John B.
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