Robots are coming- for us!

[AMuzi]

https://www.bikerumor.com/2018/02/07/why-cant-self-driving-cars-see-cyclists/


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[Frank Krygowski]

On 2/8/2018 3:06 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> https://www.bikerumor.com/2018/02/07/why-cant-self-driving-cars-see-cyclists/

And the article mentioned in one comment:
http://www.bikewalknc.org/2018/02/autonomous-driving-and-collision-avoidance-technology/
which is probably the best summary I've seen on the technology.


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- Frank Krygowski

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:06:58 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>https://www.bikerumor.com/2018/02/07/why-cant-self-driving-cars-see-cyclists/

This might be part of the problem:
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=bicycle+camo+clothing>
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=bicycle+camo>

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[Andy]

Self driving cars will never be safe. There are too many things that cant be forseen.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:47:59 -0800 (PST), Andy
<andrewke...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Self driving cars will never be safe. There are too many things that cant be forseen.

I've seen far too many experts produce erroneous pontifications and
failed predictions to accept such a statement at face value. At this
time, with todays available technology, there will certainly be
problems. There will probably be some regrettable incidents. However,
given sufficient time, funding, and a general tolerance of mistakes,
it will eventually work.

The comments I read about driverless vehicles sound more like fear of
the unknown, unwilling to take risks, and an addiction to the status
quo. Those are great ways to get nowhere. If you want to see
something happen, you need to take risks, learn as you go along,
ignore failures, ignore pundits, and don't allow anyone discourage
you.

I recently took on a project where I knew very little about the
technology. I knew it could be done, which was a big help, but I
needed a fast education. After a few frustrating evenings and asking
some good questions, and I'm slowly making progress. Forget about the
documentation, which is an incomprehensible English translation of the
original Chinese.

[AMuzi]

On 2/11/2018 12:47 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:47:59 -0800 (PST), Andy
> <andrewke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Self driving cars will never be safe. There are too many things that cant be forseen.
>
> I've seen far too many experts produce erroneous pontifications and
> failed predictions to accept such a statement at face value. At this
> time, with todays available technology, there will certainly be
> problems. There will probably be some regrettable incidents. However,
> given sufficient time, funding, and a general tolerance of mistakes,
> it will eventually work.
>
> The comments I read about driverless vehicles sound more like fear of
> the unknown, unwilling to take risks, and an addiction to the status
> quo. Those are great ways to get nowhere. If you want to see
> something happen, you need to take risks, learn as you go along,
> ignore failures, ignore pundits, and don't allow anyone discourage
> you.
>
> I recently took on a project where I knew very little about the
> technology. I knew it could be done, which was a big help, but I
> needed a fast education. After a few frustrating evenings and asking
> some good questions, and I'm slowly making progress. Forget about the
> documentation, which is an incomprehensible English translation of the
> original Chinese.
>

In my will, I made arrangements not including a plot and
marker. Your phrase 'regrettable incident' just screams to
be cut in stone; maybe I ought to reconsider.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:17:11 -0600, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>In my will, I made arrangements not including a plot and
>marker. Your phrase 'regrettable incident' just screams to
>be cut in stone; maybe I ought to reconsider.

It's a term I've seen used to replace "accidental fatality" which
oozes sympathy and compassion, while begging not to be sued.

Topic drift at it's best:

I'm now on my 3rd will and working on my 4th. The problem is that
every time I inscribe someone as a suitable beneficiary, they either
drop dead or turn out to be inherently evil and unworthy of receiving
my modest inheritance.

One of my first jobs was sweeping the floor at a mortuary. Death does
really strange things to people (the friends and relatives, not the
deceased).

CNC milling has revolutionized engraving headstones and markers:
<https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cnc+headstone+engraver>

I've written poetry for inscription on tombstones. None has been
"published". There's usually not enough available space, it's
difficult to be clever in only a few words that rhyme, and the
headstone maker wants too much money for all the text. These might
help:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=gravestone+humor>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+headstone>

Where bicycles go to die:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+graveyard>
Amazing.

[Andy]

Is "regrettable incident" the same as horrible fatality?

Andy

[AMuzi]

> Is "regrettable incident" the same as horrible fatality?

Mel Brooks, "Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when
you fall into an open sewer and die."