On Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:46:21 PM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> "over-crowding" is bad is when people whose lifestyle is used to be used in
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> the sparsely wooded suburbs and on farm lands.
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> A good example of feeling crowded is shown when you explained that when you
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> were 100 miles way from NYC, you had nothing to do and see as the only
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> landmark in town was a state prison and massive brick building.
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> Clearly, anyone who is used to living in this kind "nothing to do" place
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> will find the place beautiful to stay or visit. Like you did, they will
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> drink a bottle of whisky to pass their time. They will dream and mesmerized
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> themselves into nothingness.
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> But, you or they found exciting when you or they get to NYC. This is because
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> you or they have not seen the bustling of lives in a developed compact city
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> like NYC in all the US states.
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> You will not see the crowding takes place when you were busy watching the
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> busy lives in NYC. But it is truly the crowding of people that makes the
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> You will not view crowding an issue, as you will be blind-shielded away from
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> your appreciation of the exciting bustling and busy city that is formed by
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> the crowding of people and the activities that activated the crowding of
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> people to come, meet, assemble, and talk.
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> If you go to similar developed compact cities like Hong Kong, Taipei, and
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> Singapore, you will find over-crowding is tiresome and stressful to your
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> life. The perpetual crowding inevitably drives people to walk faster, speak
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> faster, doing their thing faster, cutting out a lot of long talks. The
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> over-crowding developed the raising of voice to speak louder in order to be
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> It is not possible for people who are used to living in suburbs and sparsely
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> crowded city like NYC, Singapore, Hong Kong, or even Tokyo.
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> Crowding is not an exciting activity to see in a busy city. Crowding causes
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> stresses and even mental illnesses. The cost of living is driver of lives.
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> No money means no talk if you want ot survive in a city life.
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> The best is to reduce and eliminate the crowding of people from the city.
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> This will reduce the stresses and competitions on people already in the
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> city. The best way is to spread out the city of work to other areas that can
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> Life in a city is not easy to live and sustain, as every matter involved is
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> "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher" wrote in message
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> I can not possibly challenge that because I love big open spaces. Actually I
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> went back to kayaking as a ticket to freedom.
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> But I'd also challenge the concept that "overcrowding" is necessarily bad.
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> My girlfriend just came back from Paris and Barcelona and she says Barcelona
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> is a very happy place. Plenty of bicycles and scooters. I think NYC has made
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbB5p2KYtyw
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> On the other hand, we landed in the boondocks --100 miles from NYC-- and it
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> was absolute hell. It was beautiful but nothing to do, not even walking or
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> hiking. The only landmark in town was a state prison, a massive brick
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> building you couldn't miss. I grabbed a bottle of whiskey and then another
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> for the time we were there totally depressed. After that we came through NYC
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> and found it very exciting. We walked and walked in Manhattan. Central Park
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> is a park like no other. There's space, plenty of space. It took like an
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> That's when I wrote: "If you hate people, you'll love America --except if
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> you live in NYC." But there's something equally depressing along with living
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> in the boondocks with nothing to do. That's living in the American sprawl,
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> totally dependent on the car.
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> What are you doing in f*ing cage the whole day? My point is that neither the
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> sprawl nor the boondocks is the solution. Cities are far more energy
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> There's a city known for overcrowding in the world, that's Hong Kong. How is
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Very good analysis for the most part, but you forget a key point in the final analysis.
***WE ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS***
Sometimes we can enjoy being alone, but life in the sprawl is not "normal" for two reasons: First, there's no social interaction, and second, there's no need to move, be it walking or riding a bicycle. You get in the car and drive somewhere, and that's not healthy neither for you nor the planet.
Only "half ass solution" is to ride a bicycle far and wide --people or no people-- but that remains much of a gamble, sort of like playing Russian roulette.
Society is sick and it's making us sick. If you live in the boondocks you must have at the very least some hiking trails. Germany has some 200,000 km of trails so people have a choice to go into the woods.
I understand the couch potato has a philosophy of his own but it doesn't square with the laws of evolution: "USE IT OR LOSE IT!"