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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 7, 2014, 1:42:52 AM7/7/14
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On Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:11:37 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <2d79636f-d09b-4dc5...@googlegroups.com>,
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> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
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> <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > What we can have --in the real world-- is a much happier world. When they
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> > say, for example, Norway, Canada or Denmark are the happiest countries,
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> <snip>
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> That depends extremely highly on which five people in each country the
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> idiotic poll bothered to ask. Such polls / surveys / studies are
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> hopelessly useless and inaccurate, making them completely meaningless
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> ... even on the rare occasions the "results" or method are not
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> manipulated to simply satisfy whoever is paying for it. :-\

Usually places that are not dysfunctional are happy. Things like corruption, crime, fear, party politics make life miserable. Buying your way into a gated community is not happiness.

The only two surprises in the following list are Vietnam and El Salvador...

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/life/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html/?a=viewall

***

You know, I thought of New Zealand as a happy place but maybe I was wrong. Miami Beach is not a happy place despite all the image.

And this is the greatest surprise: The Christian Heaven is more like Hell.


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Dan O

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Jul 7, 2014, 2:29:16 AM7/7/14
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> > > What we can have --in the real world-- is a much happier world. When they
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> > > say, for example, Norway, Canada or Denmark are the happiest countries,
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> > <snip>
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> > That depends extremely highly on which five people in each country the
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> >
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> > idiotic poll bothered to ask. Such polls / surveys / studies are
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> >
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> > hopelessly useless and inaccurate, making them completely meaningless
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> >
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> > ... even on the rare occasions the "results" or method are not
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> >
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> > manipulated to simply satisfy whoever is paying for it. :-\
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> Usually places that are not dysfunctional are happy. Things like corruption, crime, fear, party politics make life miserable. Buying your way into a gated community is not happiness.
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> The only two surprises in the following list are Vietnam and El Salvador...
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> http://wallstcheatsheet.com/life/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html/?a=viewall
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> ***
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> You know, I thought of New Zealand as a happy place but maybe I was wrong. Miami Beach is not a happy place despite all the image.
>

And Iceland - don't forget Iceland:

http://grapevine.is/mag/interview/2012/06/12/why-do-icelanders-drink-like-college-freshmen/

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 7, 2014, 3:35:00 AM7/7/14
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On Monday, July 7, 2014 2:29:14 AM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <f1e8f8ad-7acb-464f...@googlegroups.com>,
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> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
>
> <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:11:37 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
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> > > In article <2d79636f-d09b-4dc5...@googlegroups.com>,
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> > > Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
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> > > <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >
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> > > > What we can have --in the real world-- is a much happier world. When they
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> > > > say, for example, Norway, Canada or Denmark are the happiest countries,
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> > > <snip>
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> > >
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> > > That depends extremely highly on which five people in each country the
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> > > idiotic poll bothered to ask. Such polls / surveys / studies are
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> > > hopelessly useless and inaccurate, making them completely meaningless
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> > > ... even on the rare occasions the "results" or method are not
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> > > manipulated to simply satisfy whoever is paying for it. :-\
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> >
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> > Usually places that are not dysfunctional are happy. Things like corruption,
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> > crime, fear, party politics make life miserable.
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> Any kind of politics makes the place unhappy ... all politicians are a
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> bunch of lying scum looking out for their own selfish needs. :-(

I wished we could bring back the public pillory. It would be fun to throw tomatoes at them at the public plaza.
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> > Buying your way into a gated
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> > community is not happiness.
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> > The only two surprises in the following list are Vietnam and El Salvador...
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> > http://wallstcheatsheet.com/life/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world.html/?
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> > a=viewall
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> > You know, I thought of New Zealand as a happy place but maybe I was wrong.
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> > Miami Beach is not a happy place despite all the image.
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> New Zealand is virtually a fourth world country with pitiful public
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> transport, hopeless local city councils and government wasting huge
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> piles of money on stupid pet projects, a broken health system, a broken
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> education system, a broken legal system, ...

Man, not worth the trip. It's like 24 hours flying and three airlines.

We are sort of like in the antipodes and yet everything sounds so familiar.

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 7, 2014, 3:37:32 AM7/7/14
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I guess it's not easy to live in an island isolated from the world. The thermal baths are so boring.

Free Spirit

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Jul 7, 2014, 4:07:24 AM7/7/14
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Of course I was kidding. In Norway they ban the liquor sales on weekends, I guess to prevent a similar situation.

I used to drink beer quite heavily but found it boring and depressing. Not preaching, of course.

Free Spirit

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Jul 7, 2014, 4:11:52 AM7/7/14
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Sorry, just thought this is a nice alternative to drinking and depression...

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pedestrians/nyc-plaza-program.shtml

Dan O

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Jul 7, 2014, 4:36:24 AM7/7/14
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Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 8, 2014, 12:19:03 AM7/8/14
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If I lived in Iceland I'd go hiking and be happy.

http://nat.is/gonguleidireng/gonguleidir_allt_landid.htm

I think hiking is the happiest activity in the world. Riding in traffic is the worst.

avag...@gmail.com

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Jul 8, 2014, 7:50:57 AM7/8/14
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doahn forget Iceland

Iceland is cool

Icelanders drink alcohol

to unfreeze their stool

women stink of fish

Iceland's favorite dish

http://goo.gl/FynWCs

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 8, 2014, 1:09:56 PM7/8/14
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We live in a tropical paradise that allows bicycling and kayaking but nobody does it. Some say it's too hot. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

People want an SUV and a big motor boat. They go hand in hand, the boat in tow.

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 10, 2014, 12:44:45 PM7/10/14
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:44:30 AM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> If one looks at the pictures of these countries, it showed that happiest
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> places are scenes of these places that have nice and quiet ambience of
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> places of interests such as beautiful lakes and scenery of mountains and
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> waterfalls, and huge farms and large farming, and so on.
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> These are places that are unaffected by any erosion from excessive dwelling
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> and housing of human beings.
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> Since it is the huge and large numbers of human beings that are crowding out
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> of places of their country, it would be wise to eliminate and reduce down
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> their numbers In the population in order to meet the happiness level of
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> living in the niceties of places like those countries shown in the link.

I can not possibly challenge that because I love big open spaces. Actually I went back to kayaking as a ticket to freedom.

But I'd also challenge the concept that "overcrowding" is necessarily bad. My girlfriend just came back from Paris and Barcelona and she says Barcelona is a very happy place. Plenty of bicycles and scooters. I think NYC has made a big --huge-- change for the better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbB5p2KYtyw

On the other hand, we landed in the boondocks --100 miles from NYC-- and it was absolute hell. It was beautiful but nothing to do, not even walking or hiking. The only landmark in town was a state prison, a massive brick building you couldn't miss. I grabbed a bottle of whiskey and then another for the time we were there totally depressed. After that we came through NYC and found it very exciting. We walked and walked in Manhattan. Central Park is a park like no other. There's space, plenty of space. It took like an hour to go around on the bike.

That's when I wrote: "If you hate people, you'll love America --except if you live in NYC." But there's something equally depressing along with living in the boondocks with nothing to do. That's living in the American sprawl, totally dependent on the car. What are you doing in f*ing cage the whole day? My point is that neither the sprawl nor the boondocks is the solution. Cities are far more energy efficient for one. I think Amsterdam/Copenhagen must be nice places, both bike friendly.

There's a city known for overcrowding in the world, that's Hong Kong. How is it? How about Singapore?



Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 10, 2014, 6:11:33 PM7/10/14
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:21:05 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <5c2ee21d-8fd2-45d3...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
>
> <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > I can not possibly challenge that because I love big open spaces. Actually I
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> > went back to kayaking as a ticket to freedom.
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> >
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> > But I'd also challenge the concept that "overcrowding" is necessarily bad. My
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> > girlfriend just came back from Paris and Barcelona and she says Barcelona is
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> > a very happy place. Plenty of bicycles and scooters.
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> <snip>
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> They're happy because they managed to get home on their silly bicycles
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> and scooters without being injured or killed by any of the car, bus,
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> and truck drivers. ;-)

Let me tell you, those scooters are serious fun.

I'd take riding a scooter over sex. ;)

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 10, 2014, 6:56:46 PM7/10/14
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On Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:46:21 PM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> "over-crowding" is bad is when people whose lifestyle is used to be used in
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> the sparsely wooded suburbs and on farm lands.
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> A good example of feeling crowded is shown when you explained that when you
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> were 100 miles way from NYC, you had nothing to do and see as the only
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> landmark in town was a state prison and massive brick building.
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> Clearly, anyone who is used to living in this kind "nothing to do" place
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> will find the place beautiful to stay or visit. Like you did, they will
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> drink a bottle of whisky to pass their time. They will dream and mesmerized
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> themselves into nothingness.
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> But, you or they found exciting when you or they get to NYC. This is because
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> you or they have not seen the bustling of lives in a developed compact city
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> like NYC in all the US states.
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> You will not see the crowding takes place when you were busy watching the
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> busy lives in NYC. But it is truly the crowding of people that makes the
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> excitement of the city.
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> You will not view crowding an issue, as you will be blind-shielded away from
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> your appreciation of the exciting bustling and busy city that is formed by
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> the crowding of people and the activities that activated the crowding of
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> people to come, meet, assemble, and talk.
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> If you go to similar developed compact cities like Hong Kong, Taipei, and
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> Singapore, you will find over-crowding is tiresome and stressful to your
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> life. The perpetual crowding inevitably drives people to walk faster, speak
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> faster, doing their thing faster, cutting out a lot of long talks. The
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> over-crowding developed the raising of voice to speak louder in order to be
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> heard in a crowded environment.
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> It is not possible for people who are used to living in suburbs and sparsely
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> outlying places and who had not have the experiences of city lifestyles to
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> endure in a crowded condition to sustain and continue with their living in a
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> crowded city like NYC, Singapore, Hong Kong, or even Tokyo.
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> Crowding is not an exciting activity to see in a busy city. Crowding causes
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> stresses and even mental illnesses. The cost of living is driver of lives.
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> No money means no talk if you want ot survive in a city life.
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> The best is to reduce and eliminate the crowding of people from the city.
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> This will reduce the stresses and competitions on people already in the
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> city. The best way is to spread out the city of work to other areas that can
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> support the operational needs.
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> Life in a city is not easy to live and sustain, as every matter involved is
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> about finding a good paying job to pay your bills. Crowding in city is major
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> issue in these countries, namely Singapore, Hong Kong.
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> "Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher" wrote in message
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> news:78bc7093-f332-47f9...@googlegroups.com...
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>
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> I can not possibly challenge that because I love big open spaces. Actually I
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> went back to kayaking as a ticket to freedom.
>
>
>
> But I'd also challenge the concept that "overcrowding" is necessarily bad.
>
> My girlfriend just came back from Paris and Barcelona and she says Barcelona
>
> is a very happy place. Plenty of bicycles and scooters. I think NYC has made
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> a big --huge-- change for the better.
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbB5p2KYtyw
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>
>
> On the other hand, we landed in the boondocks --100 miles from NYC-- and it
>
> was absolute hell. It was beautiful but nothing to do, not even walking or
>
> hiking. The only landmark in town was a state prison, a massive brick
>
> building you couldn't miss. I grabbed a bottle of whiskey and then another
>
> for the time we were there totally depressed. After that we came through NYC
>
> and found it very exciting. We walked and walked in Manhattan. Central Park
>
> is a park like no other. There's space, plenty of space. It took like an
>
> hour to go around on the bike.
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>
>
> That's when I wrote: "If you hate people, you'll love America --except if
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> you live in NYC." But there's something equally depressing along with living
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> in the boondocks with nothing to do. That's living in the American sprawl,
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> totally dependent on the car.
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> What are you doing in f*ing cage the whole day? My point is that neither the
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> sprawl nor the boondocks is the solution. Cities are far more energy
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> efficient for one. I think Amsterdam/Copenhagen must be nice places, both
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> bike friendly.
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>
>
> There's a city known for overcrowding in the world, that's Hong Kong. How is
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> it? How about Singapore?

Very good analysis for the most part, but you forget a key point in the final analysis.

***WE ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS***

Sometimes we can enjoy being alone, but life in the sprawl is not "normal" for two reasons: First, there's no social interaction, and second, there's no need to move, be it walking or riding a bicycle. You get in the car and drive somewhere, and that's not healthy neither for you nor the planet.

Only "half ass solution" is to ride a bicycle far and wide --people or no people-- but that remains much of a gamble, sort of like playing Russian roulette.

Society is sick and it's making us sick. If you live in the boondocks you must have at the very least some hiking trails. Germany has some 200,000 km of trails so people have a choice to go into the woods.

I understand the couch potato has a philosophy of his own but it doesn't square with the laws of evolution: "USE IT OR LOSE IT!"

Free Spirit

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Jul 11, 2014, 1:18:28 PM7/11/14
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On Friday, July 11, 2014 11:15:50 AM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> Bicycle is not viable if there are many obstacles of vehicular traffic and
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> pedestrians that can endanger the lives of cyclists constantly.
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> Even if cyclist is looking out for vehicular traffic and of their own safety
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> will not prevent him/her from bing knocked down or killed on the road.
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> Seriously bicycle is not suitable in congested city.
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> In some cities of countries where bicycle is used in city living, the
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> lurking of dangers on cyclist in getting knocked down or killed by the
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> driver of truck, bus, or car is very high. This is because the road lane is
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> often narrowed and that it cannot accommodate the space of the bicycle.
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> The inner road lane is shared with bus or slow moving vehicles like truck,
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> van, or motorbike. A slight knock from them will drive the cyclist off-road,
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> or permanently injured or worse, killed.
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> Also the heat, rain, or icing on roads, and the breathing in of fumes and
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> pollutions make cycling in the city a dreadful choice.

Well, I propose the inner lane to be shared by bicycles, small EVs, scooters, etc, under 25 mph. The bicycle is the best vehicle for communities, and if there's no place for bicycles, there's no communities. If a community is, say, 5 miles in diameter you can take care of errands without the need to move a car, whose cold starts are said to pollute even more. Cities are choking in pollution, traffic jams are never ending. And still there's more people and more cars coming soon.

Mao saw the use for the bicycle and any revolutionary can not possibly ignore that. I don't consider cars unnecessary but they must be subordinated to people, whether they are on foot or bicycle. Bicycling is a smarter way of walking.

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> In America, bench is not to be found as authorities have removed them. This
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> is because homeless people and drug sellers congregates themselves sitting
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> on benches for long period of time.

True. But there's also a problem with the bathrooms in the parks. They remain closed around here, and then what happens when you need to go? They should close the park instead.
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> The public bench becomes their home or meeting point. They dominate all the
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> benches, chasing others away from using them.
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> In America, they are called loiterer. Many of these benches have been
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> removed because of them.
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> http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/06/12/artist_nils_norman_documents_anti_homeless_spikes_and_other_defensive_architecture.html
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> Nowadays there is no more placing of sitting benches anymore. Old folks will
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> have no place to rest their bum and feet.
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> Perhaps, America needs a payable bench to control the usage, something like
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> this one: Coin-operated park bench in China?
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> http://boingboing.net/2010/08/18/coin-operated-park-b.html

I have nothing to say except that there will be no homeless with the revolution.

If people complain about one solution or the other, they can take a homeless person home.

Remember, THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS.

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 12, 2014, 1:50:05 PM7/12/14
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On Friday, July 11, 2014 5:26:02 PM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> In some congested cities of countries, they have the inner lane dedicated,
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> during restricted hours, for the usage by public bus services. This will
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> allow the bus to drive smoothly along the road of this inner lane without
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> interferences from other vehicles.

Public transportation should NOT be the first alternative to the car. It's expensive! I think it should be subsidized with a fuel tax, but the first option is the humble bicycle. Both public transportation and bicycles are complementary and even in this dysfunctional city buses have racks for two bikes. Let's congratulate them for a change. You may be waiting for an hour for a bus though. Then you have the option to take off on your bike. Relying on two buses is a bad idea here. Chances are you'll be waiting over an hour. Workers can't certainly afford to be that unreliable.
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> However, the narrowed inner lane is still not wide enough to accommodate the
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> movements of bicycles, electric-bicycles, and scooters. In China main
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> cities, they have very wide inner lane for such purposes.
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> This is because they also have very wide lanes for their other vehicles too.
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> Mo made their roads big and wide enough to accommodate the traffic flow of
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> large numbers of bicycles to pass each other at the same time.
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>
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> In some part of suburbs or villages, their inner lane is smaller and yet it
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> shared with other vehicular traffic. True, cars are necessary but should be
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> subordinated to people first.
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> If other congested cities of other countries can widen their inner lane of
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> road, the problem of safety on bicycles can be reduce or even eliminated.

Yes, that's understood. I think the inner traffic lane is more than enough to accommodate slow vehicles up to 25mph. Once you take the lane (in effect blocking the car) he can not possibly miss you or hit you by "accident," and the "speed differential" is minimized. There's an idiotic law around in America that gives 3 feet to the cyclist. How on earth would you enforce that? And such law was even rejected in Texas. Go figure.
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> Homeless people in many countries are generated from their constant
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> inabilities to pay for their mortgage of their home on their own feet. Some
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> can't even sustain themselves in the paying of their rent.
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> The key is to send these loiterers to jail, as this will give them a
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> reminder not to "loiter" anymore.
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> When they finished their jail sentence, they should be referred to the
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> localized job banks to find alternative work and to bring home the money .

I'd give the homeless the option to do something for the community where they hang out. Anything, whatever they can. I'd reward them with money and give them a shelter. Do something or get lost.

You know, there's a mentality out there that a cyclist doing errands on his bike --loaded with groceries-- is a homeless person. We must fight homelessness for them, for us and for the whole society.

Let me put the question here, since there's people that know. Since they ban chewing gum in Singapore, what do they do with the homeless? We should not tolerate homelessness. Zero. Nothing. Nada.




Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 12, 2014, 2:20:54 PM7/12/14
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On Friday, July 11, 2014 6:12:09 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <a9ad4ffc-7064-4b1c...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> Free Spirit <roaming...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Mao saw the use for the bicycle and any revolutionary can not possibly ignore
>
> > that. I don't consider cars unnecessary but they must be subordinated to
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> > people, whether they are on foot or bicycle. Bicycling is a smarter way of
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> > walking.
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>
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> Many of these greedy (so-called) "Communist" countries let their
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> populations have bicycles because it's cheaper than a car, can't travel
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> as far / as fast as a car, etc., so keeps them subjugated and unable to
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> spread news / gossip very far.

The freedom of the car is an American illusion. You ain't free at all. So many predators eat you along the way that you eventually want to ride a bicycle and be truly free. True, you won't as far but there's a place for each vehicle.

Let me ask you: Where do you think there's more freedom, America or the Netherlands? Now think of NYC and Texas, where are people freer?

The only communist country to take advantage of the bicycle was China. India also took advantage of it in a so-called "democratic system."

Any system that pushes one option down your throat is communist. If you want to talk about free people talk about motorcyclists. Last truly free people were the natives or Indians. They had to be brought into the grid and are now dying of boredom and obesity.

Once you drive they got by the balls. I'm really paranoid driving through these red light cameras, where they hit you with a $160 ticket just for slightly stopping past the line. It's not running the light, in which case I'd agree. In Chicago is 100 bucks and it's still high.

> > True. But there's also a problem with the bathrooms in the parks. They remain
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> > closed around here, and then what happens when you need to go? They should
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> > close the park instead.
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>
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> There are a few places that have purposely made public seating
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> uncomfortable so that people are discouraged from sitting there for
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> "too long".
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> Bus stop shelters here in New Zealand usually provided very little
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> shelter because they are designed for both "easy cleaning" and to stop
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> people loitering in them.

Funny, my girlfriend saw no homeless in Ecuador and these beautiful parks with benches are everywhere. There's possibly a cause and effect relationship.

> > If people complain about one solution or the other, they can take a homeless person home.
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>
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> Some places have started playing musak and "golden oldies" tunes to try
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> and stop young people loitering in certain areas, usually in industrial
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> areas where it doesn't keep the neighbours awake all night.
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> > Remember, THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
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> Yep, and the best solution is to impose a curfew of 10:00pm. Anyone
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> still on the streets after that time without proper authority simply
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> gets shot ... solves loitering, nighttime crimes, and (for a while)
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> over-population. :-)
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> Also, for anyone under 18 years old, the parents should be held legally
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> responsible and have the same punishments. That should stop most idiocy
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> like the recent car crash here where 13 and 15 year olds had stolen a
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> car and were joyriding around after midnight.

I don't know if a curfew is necessary but joyriding is just a big issue with young drivers. How about restricting their license to 25 years old.

Let them ride bicycles and scooters before that, so they learn about responsibility. We place these kids on the road to kill or be killed. It's better they don't kill anyone.

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 13, 2014, 3:20:52 AM7/13/14
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On Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:40:36 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <3d8715f8-dea0-4fa8...@googlegroups.com>,
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> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
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> <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Funny, my girlfriend saw no homeless in Ecuador and these beautiful parks
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> > with benches are everywhere. There's possibly a cause and effect
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> > relationship.
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> There are definitely homeless (and slums) in Ecuador. No don't the
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> government and police keep them hidden around back out of the eyline of
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> tourists and rich residents.

There are rich and poor in Ecuador, even the infamous gated communities, but as far as the eye can see, there are no homeless.

This is a happy place:

http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac18/thetibetanmonkey/CORRUPTION/ecuadorpark_zps490df701.jpg

"It doesn't take much to be happy: Green, clean, people --not homeless occupying parks. Ecuador has undertaken a path of progress and it shows. So has NYC. How many benches are there in your community? A few places in the world stand out for the quality of life. Is your community happy or crappy?"


Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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Jul 14, 2014, 11:47:32 AM7/14/14
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On Monday, July 14, 2014 3:18:36 AM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
> In article <7c7848ba-5532-4467...@googlegroups.com>,
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> Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
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> <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sunday, July 13, 2014 9:38:02 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
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> > > In article <77c89983-cba9-4d0c...@googlegroups.com>,
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> > > Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher
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> > > <thetibet...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:32:13 PM UTC-4, Your Name wrote:
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> > > > >
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> > > > > He's just one of those looney nutters that have "fitness" as their
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> > > > > idiotic religious belief.
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> > > >
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> > > > No, this is serious. A man should at the very least keep walking all his
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> > > > life. Use it or lose it.
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> > > >
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> > > > The gym is just BS, but moving is not.
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> > >
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> > > Most normal people already walk / exercise enough during the day. This
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> > > kind of "expert advice" is complete and utter boollocks, just like all
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> > > the other idiotic ideas these "experts" spout (often to line their own
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> > > pockets), such as people "must" drink eight glasses of water a day,
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> > > etc.
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> >
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> > If people exercised enough, we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic.
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> > Obviously people are eating too much and exercising too little.
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> There is no "epidemic". Yes, some people do eat far too much and/or far
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> too much of the wrong foods. It has bugger all to do with exercise or
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> even being hungry. It's simply personal greed and no self-discipline,
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> often with underlying mental issues like depression.
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> Yes, you could probably east 50 McDonalds burger a day if you ran 600
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> miles a day ... but no *normal* person needs to do either of those
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> things.

There's no way around it: The Western lifestyle is about lazy consumers who are addict to the car. The only place they walk is the shopping mall.

Now we don't even need to go to the malls because the Internet delivers the products to us.

Is it happiness? I say happiness is roaming free around your community, either on foot or bicycle, socializing along the way.

Wise TibetanMonkey, Most Humble Philosopher

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On Monday, July 14, 2014 11:38:54 AM UTC-4, Hiroko wrote:
> Why should the lawyer there fight for them for their right to be homeless?
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> Americans prisoners have a cell room with heater for winter for themselves,
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> whereas the homeless have no homes.
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> American jails have room facilities for conjugal visit by spouse, where as
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> the homeless have not room for such usage.
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> American jails have hot spa and heated swimming for their use whereas the
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> homeless have to pay for the usage of such private facilities.
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> American prisoners have three meals of hot foods delivered to their cells
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> every day whereas the homeless to beg and find their food on their own.
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> America's is indeed a land of hypocrisy.

It is indeed. But I hear the conditions in prison are equally tough. Plenty of violence and abuse. I was reading an article last night that was terrifying.

What prisoners and homeless have in common is that they are a commodity for growing industries. I know a place that houses some 80 homeless that could help hundreds. There's absolute waste in that facility, including cruises to the Bahamas and dinners in fancy restaurants while the staff goes around in luxury cars.

Churches equally feed the homeless in order to gain converts. Then the homeless spread around the community, occupying parks and libraries, and the priests remain in their always plush accommodations.


avag...@gmail.com

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