ID Bottom Bracket Shell

[cycl...@gmail.com]

Can anyone ID this shell?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122527034899?ul_noapp=true

[AMuzi]

On 7/19/2017 11:21 AM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Can anyone ID this shell?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122527034899?ul_noapp=true
>

1. That is not a 3Rensho product. It's not even Japanese.

2. It's definitely Italian built. Mid-size factory; not an
artisan builder, not Bianchi etc.

3. I do not know. It is the same shell Basso used at one
time. Could possibly be a Basso but I do not know that.
Either he measured poorly or it's not a Basso as the
geometry as listed makes no sense:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/basso.html


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Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[cycl...@gmail.com]

Thanks Andrew. I've never seen a shell like that on my large number of Basso's but I suspect you've seen a lot more of them than I have.

[AMuzi]

On 7/20/2017 12:15 PM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 10:17:14 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 7/19/2017 11:21 AM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Can anyone ID this shell?
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122527034899?ul_noapp=true
>>>
>>
>> 1. That is not a 3Rensho product. It's not even Japanese.
>>
>> 2. It's definitely Italian built. Mid-size factory; not an
>> artisan builder, not Bianchi etc.
>>
>> 3. I do not know. It is the same shell Basso used at one
>> time. Could possibly be a Basso but I do not know that.
>> Either he measured poorly or it's not a Basso as the
>> geometry as listed makes no sense:
>> http://www.yellowjersey.org/basso.html

> Thanks Andrew. I've never seen a shell like that on my large number of Basso's but I suspect you've seen a lot more of them than I have.

Mid 1990s Gap used that shell, after the one with the panto
"B" logo was dropped.
I don't have an upside-down Basso snapshot and a web search
was fruitless.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

I had several mid-90's GAP's and none of them had BB's like that.

[Gregory Sutter]

On 2017-07-20, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 10:17:14 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 7/19/2017 11:21 AM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Can anyone ID this shell?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122527034899?ul_noapp=true
>>>
>>> 1. That is not a 3Rensho product. It's not even Japanese.
>>>
>>> 2. It's definitely Italian built. Mid-size factory; not an
>>> artisan builder, not Bianchi etc.
>>>
>>> 3. I do not know. It is the same shell Basso used at one
>>> time. Could possibly be a Basso but I do not know that.
>>> Either he measured poorly or it's not a Basso as the
>>> geometry as listed makes no sense:
>>> http://www.yellowjersey.org/basso.html
>

> Mid 1990s Gap used that shell, after the one with the panto
> "B" logo was dropped.
> I don't have an upside-down Basso snapshot and a web search
> was fruitless.

Here's the matching shell on a 1990 Basso Gap. Other details
differ, though: brake bridge, seat cluster, etc.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/133680070@N04/34334066944/

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Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless
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[AMuzi]

Thanks so much; I gave up the search after 10 minutes.
That's a Basso Gap Mexico.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 10:37:03 PM UTC-7, Gregory Sutter wrote:
>
> Here's the matching shell on a 1990 Basso Gap. Other details
> differ, though: brake bridge, seat cluster, etc.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/133680070@N04/34334066944/

Thanks Greg. I let the owner know so that he could take that 3Rensho sticker off of that frame and sell it for what it was worth.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

Did they have the Olympics in Mexico in 1990? Colnago has a Super Mexico as well if memory serves.

[AMuzi]

It's a color series with (AFAIK) no particular deeper
meaning. Started with Black-Yellow-Green Basso Jamaica which
was popular and followed promptly by RWB Basso America then
Blue-on-Blue Europa, Raspberry-Silver Canada, Pink-Green
Mexico. (oddly, no Tricolore Italia)

p.s. Summer Olympics cities- 1988 Seoul 1992 Barcelona.
p.p.s. Merckx set the Hour in 1972 at Mexico on a Molteni
Orange Colnago with Merckx graphics.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

You are a mine of information. Thanks Andrew.