Multi tool

[avag...@gmail.com]

Looking for replacements finding mega crab

https://www.leatherman.com/pockettools

Link may not go to pocket accesories

[AMuzi]

Our fine customer in Charleston makes those:

http://www.brothersrich.com/product/crab-hammer/

p.s. bicycle content:
http://www.brothersrich.com/product/brothers-rich-bicycles/

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

[cycl...@gmail.com]

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product2_10053_10052_128426_-1

Has every tool you could possibly use on the road except a 14 mm hex to remove your Campy Power Torque crankset.

The weakness of most of these multitools is that they can be bent.

[avag...@gmail.com]

have an earlier nbar multi under the drivers seat.

the deal with Leatherman is the 25 year warranty. my Wavecan opener snapped n L sent a new tool

as opposed to

goo.gl/NvKpHY

the Rich Bro is de riguer very aesthetic comes with supply of white sheets

[Jeff Liebermann]

Some suggestions.
Victorinox Champ XAVT:
<https://www.swissarmy.com/us/en//Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Swiss-Champ-XAVT/p/1.6795.XAVT>
Wenger 16999 (Giant):
<https://www.google.com/search?q=wenger+16999&source=lnms&tbm=isch>
Hammer Multitools:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=hammer+multi+tool&tbm=isch>

I carry a small bag of loose tools and parts under the saddle. While
there may be some weight and size savings to multi-tools, they tend to
rip holes in my pocket or are too awkward to be useful. When I need
to use two tools at the same time (like adjusting a brake cable), the
multi-tool won't work. Most used tools are allen wrenches and
do-it-myself borax hand cleaner concoction.

--
Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

[AMuzi]

On 10/19/2017 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2017 22:02:31 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking for replacements finding mega crab
>> https://www.leatherman.com/pockettools
>> Link may not go to pocket accesories
>
> Some suggestions.
> Victorinox Champ XAVT:
> <https://www.swissarmy.com/us/en//Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Swiss-Champ-XAVT/p/1.6795.XAVT>
> Wenger 16999 (Giant):
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=wenger+16999&source=lnms&tbm=isch>
> Hammer Multitools:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=hammer+multi+tool&tbm=isch>
>
> I carry a small bag of loose tools and parts under the saddle. While
> there may be some weight and size savings to multi-tools, they tend to
> rip holes in my pocket or are too awkward to be useful. When I need
> to use two tools at the same time (like adjusting a brake cable), the
> multi-tool won't work. Most used tools are allen wrenches and
> do-it-myself borax hand cleaner concoction.
>

Warning! Bicycle Content:

https://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Pocket-Knives/Cyclist.htm

[Doug Landau]

DOG BONE

[cycl...@gmail.com]

What sort of bicycle content is there with a beer bottle opener and a knife to save yourself from grizzly attack in Illinois?

[Doug Landau]

> Victorinox Champ XAVT:
> <https://www.swissarmy.com/us/en//Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/Swiss-Champ-XAVT/p/1.6795.XAVT>

No USB

>
> I carry a small bag of loose tools and parts under the saddle. While
> there may be some weight and size savings to multi-tools, they tend to
> rip holes in my pocket or are too awkward to be useful. When I need
> to use two tools at the same time (like adjusting a brake cable), the
> multi-tool won't work. Most used tools are allen wrenches and
> do-it-myself borax hand cleaner concoction.

I'm with you. Except sometimes like after I've been adjusting things on a MTB that has 8 and 10 mm hex heads I'll carry one of these: https://www.walmart.com/ip/15-In-1-Bike-Bicycle-Cycling-Steel-Wrench-Repair-Tool-Kits-Emergency-Pocket-Set/114414368?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=709&adid=22222222227066696172&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=170982654856&wl4=pla-277152560083&wl5=9032164&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112343202&wl11=online&wl12=114414368&wl13=&veh=sem

[AMuzi]

Wenger is in Delemont CH, not Illinois.

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:09:50 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>Warning! Bicycle Content:
>https://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Pocket-Knives/Cyclist.htm

The Wenger Cyclist knife contains the following tools:
Medium Blade (for butchering road kill)
Nail File (for sharpening nails needed to open shrink wrap packages)
Can Opener (for forcing open rubber cement tins)
Bottle Opener with Screwdriver Tip (it comes with vodka and orange
juice?)
Wrench (for rounding off the corners of bolt heads and nuts.
Phillips Screwdriver end mounted (one size strips all)
Corkscrew (for crumbling the cork which then falls into the bottle)
Awl (hillbilly pronounciation of "oil")
Key Ring or Key Chain (for collection of useless keys after the
bicycle and padlock are stolen)

[avag...@gmail.com]

Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?

[avag...@gmail.com]

crabiner at tool end is AAA concept

[Radey Shouman]

Beats me. I generally have a Park MT1, a 4" channel lock, and a pocketknife
not advertised for cycling.

--

[Frank Krygowski]

On 10/19/2017 2:42 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:09:50 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> Warning! Bicycle Content:
>> https://www.smartknives.com/Wenger-Pocket-Knives/Cyclist.htm
>
> The Wenger Cyclist knife contains the following tools:
> Medium Blade (for butchering road kill)
> Nail File (for sharpening nails needed to open shrink wrap packages)
> Can Opener (for forcing open rubber cement tins)
> Bottle Opener with Screwdriver Tip (it comes with vodka and orange
> juice?)
> Wrench (for rounding off the corners of bolt heads and nuts.
> Phillips Screwdriver end mounted (one size strips all)
> Corkscrew (for crumbling the cork which then falls into the bottle)
> Awl (hillbilly pronounciation of "oil")
> Key Ring or Key Chain (for collection of useless keys after the
> bicycle and padlock are stolen)

:-)


--
- Frank Krygowski

[Doug Landau]

> I carry a small bag of loose tools and parts under the saddle. While
> there may be some weight and size savings to multi-tools, they tend to
> rip holes in my pocket or are too awkward to be useful. When I need
> to use two tools at the same time (like adjusting a brake cable), the
> multi-tool won't work. Most used tools are allen wrenches and
> do-it-myself borax hand cleaner concoction.

I'm with you. I hate multi-tools and see no reason for their existence. That said I do bring one of these on tours and MTB rides after I have been working on the bike, in case an 8 or 10 comes loose:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/15-In-1-Bike-Bicycle-Cycling-Steel-Wrench-Repair-Tool-Kits-Emergency-Pocket-Set/114414368?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=709&adid=22222222227066696172&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=170982654856&wl4=pla-277152560083&wl5=9032164&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112343202&wl11=online&wl12=114414368&wl13=&veh=sem

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:

>Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?

No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
for the left hand, but it was less.
<http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm>

[AMuzi]

On 10/19/2017 7:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?
>
> No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
> measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
> scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
> for the left hand, but it was less.
> <http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm>
>

1. Stop using whatever drugs Tom gave you.
2. In most instances, 85lb is not 66kilos
3. 66kg is off the charts strong, according to your chart.

[Frank Krygowski]

On 10/19/2017 8:23 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 10/19/2017 7:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?
>>
>> No.  I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
>> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
>> measured it about 2 years ago in rehab.  That's at the low end of the
>> scale, so I guess it could be called mini.  I forgot what I measured
>> for the left hand, but it was less.
>> <http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm>
>>
>
> 1. Stop using whatever drugs Tom gave you.
> 2. In most instances, 85lb is not 66kilos
> 3. 66kg is off the charts strong, according to your chart.

For a long time, I occasionally tested my two-handed grip strength using
a bathroom scale. I was able to squeeze the value of my weight.

And one year, our university's exercise science faculty gave free
physical fitness tests for faculty. Rather than take the time to have us
lift weights, etc. they simply measured grip strength, which they said
tends to closely correlate with overall strength. Mine was very good,
they said. However, I was in the habit of carrying a heavy briefcase
home to grade papers or prepare lectures, so I suspected I might have
been an outlier.

Many years after that, I decided to have fun in one of my classes; I
gave them some bicycle related problems. One was to analyze the bending
strength of a middle quality bike brake lever, and compare it to the
average grip strength of the students in the class, which we measured
using the exercise science department's meter.

The lever was surprisingly weak, and we proved it by letting the
football player in the class squeeze it and bend it. I was pointing out
that it didn't need to withstand maximum grip strength, because the bike
would skid the rear wheel or topple over the front wheel long before
that point.

But I confess, by that time my elderly grip strength measured below any
male in the class.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[cycl...@gmail.com]

Andrew - I was speaking sarcastically about a "bicycle tool" whose only tool vaguely applicable was a beer bottle opener. Unless you prefer to slash your own tires.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?
>
> No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
> measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
> scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
> for the left hand, but it was less.
> <http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm>
>

Don't remind me of rehab. I have to go to an orthopedic surgeon tuesday for a growing pain in my shoulder. Hopefully he can read MRI's better than me because I don't see anything suspicious on the pictures.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

Frank - did you WORK as a mechanical engineer or teach it? This isn't meant to be by any means insulting. But you make comments that I have never seen jibe with real world events and teachers often tend to be shielded from real problems in engineering.

[cycl...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>

> No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs

One can only imagine what that is supposed to mean.......

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:02:40 -0700 (PDT), cycl...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 5:16:39 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?
>>
>> No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".
>> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I
>> measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
>> scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured
>> for the left hand, but it was less.
>> <http://www.topendsports.com/testing/norms/handgrip.htm>

> Don't remind me of rehab.

I had to do rehab after the body mechanics installed 2 stents in the
plumbing to my heart. Under Medicare, I only had to pay 20% of the
inflated charges, so it seemed like a good idea. However, at 2-3
times per week, plus a few some night time lectures, plus some lost
working time, it became rather expensive. It was well worth the
effort as it accelerated my recovery. I'm not an athlete by any
stretch of the imagination and need inspiration (or coercion) to get
adequate exercise. After about 9 weeks of rehab, I was in much better
shape than I had been for years. After rehab, I immediately reverted
to a couch potato. Hopefully, you'll do better.

> I have to go to an orthopedic surgeon tuesday for a growing
> pain in my shoulder.

Bummer. I hope it goes well for you.

The problem with going to a surgeon for a diagnosis, is that the
diagnosis will always be something within his area of expertise. If
you went to a sports medicine doctor, the solution would be more or
different exercises. If you went to a chiropractor, it would be bone
cracking. If you went to a drug dealer, the answer would be pain
killers.

> Hopefully he can read MRI's better than me because I don't
> see anything suspicious on the pictures.

I believe that he can, because he has one advantage over your
abilities. He has seen a large number of similar MRI's and therefore
has a baseline to compare your images against what might be called
"normal". The MRI image settings are carefully standardized to always
use the same settings and exposures, so that such comparisons are
possible, which would not be the case if image enhancement were used.
However, that doesn't stop you from playing with image enhancement
software if you have a digital image (which you can get from the
radiology office).

[AMuzi]

On 10/20/2017 11:05 AM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 7:53:57 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 10/19/2017 8:23 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 10/19/2017 7:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:51:59 -0700 (PDT), avag...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has Lieb a mini vise grip ?
>>>>

>>>> No. I have many vices, few of which are considered "mini".

>>>> I vaguely recall that my right hand grip is about 85lbs (66kg) when I

>>>> measured it about 2 years ago in rehab. That's at the low end of the
>>>> scale, so I guess it could be called mini. I forgot what I measured

Well, duh, of course. That's not on the exam.

[Frank Krygowski]

I'm sure you can read MRIs better than an orthopedic specialist. Hell,
you've pointed out that you know more about economics than any
economist, more about climate change than any climate scientist, more
about crime than any criminal sociologist, more about history than any
historian, more about astronomy than any astronomer, etc.

--
- Frank Krygowski

[Frank Krygowski]

On 10/20/2017 12:05 PM, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Frank - did you WORK as a mechanical engineer or teach it? This isn't meant to be by any means insulting. But you make comments that I have never seen jibe with real world events and teachers often tend to be shielded from real problems in engineering.

Both. They wouldn't have let me get a Professional Engineer's license
without sufficient work in the field.

--
- Frank Krygowski