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This land is your land? Tensions rise over use of the great outdoors
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EdwardDolan
Jun 14, 2016, 4:36:27 a.m.2016-06-14
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Ho Hum! Just another of many articles I could be posting to this newsgroup
about how mountain bikers and other assholes are despoiling wilderness
trails. But citations are not nearly enough. How about 20 years in prison
for their depredations. After all, there is very little wilderness left and
no shortage of human scum that wants nothing more than to wreck and destroy.
By Jason Blevins
The Denver Post
Posted: 07/23/2015 05:04:39 PM MDT | Updated: 7 months ago
Boulder's Scott Jurek, one of the most
accomplished ultramarathoners, broke the
supported speed record for the 2,189-mile
Appalachian Trail. (Provided by the Luis Escobar)
When Boulder ultra-running legend Scott Jurek
clambered to the top of Maine's Mount Katahdin
a spectacular, record-setting 46 days, 8 hours, 7
minutes after starting the 2,180-mile traverse of
the Appalachian Trail rangers from Baxter State Park were prepared.
But they were not celebrating. They were writing citations.
The champagne that spilled: littering. Sipping
that champagne: alcohol violation. More than 12
people hiking together: another rule violation.
Also, his film crew was cited for violating the
rules of their permit by recording video on the summit.
At first blush, the tickets issued June 12 seem a
mean-spirited response to Jurek's impressive feat of endurance.
But the issue goes much deeper, reflecting a
growing unease with how new-school recreation
like ultra-running, BASE jumping, peak-bagging,
group clinics and stand-up paddling fits inside
traditional perspectives on how Americans use their protected wildlands.
Modern-day adventurers are not always the lonely,
Thoreau-inspired hiker ambling through the woods
a reflective approach that for decades has been
promoted as the only way to truly appreciate
unspoiled lands. Yes, the new adventurers, like
their predecessors, briefly are escaping their hectic, industrial lives.
But they are using new tools, pursuing adrenaline
surges and often trumpeting their play in online photos and videos.
Jensen Bissell is the director of the
private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
displayed on his headband and amply logoed
support van should not be angling for
commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
the park and are incongruous with the park's
mission of resource protection, the appreciation
of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.
Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?
Ed Dolan the Great – Minnesota
about how mountain bikers and other assholes are despoiling wilderness
trails. But citations are not nearly enough. How about 20 years in prison
for their depredations. After all, there is very little wilderness left and
no shortage of human scum that wants nothing more than to wreck and destroy.
By Jason Blevins
The Denver Post
Posted: 07/23/2015 05:04:39 PM MDT | Updated: 7 months ago
Boulder's Scott Jurek, one of the most
accomplished ultramarathoners, broke the
supported speed record for the 2,189-mile
Appalachian Trail. (Provided by the Luis Escobar)
When Boulder ultra-running legend Scott Jurek
clambered to the top of Maine's Mount Katahdin
a spectacular, record-setting 46 days, 8 hours, 7
minutes after starting the 2,180-mile traverse of
the Appalachian Trail rangers from Baxter State Park were prepared.
But they were not celebrating. They were writing citations.
The champagne that spilled: littering. Sipping
that champagne: alcohol violation. More than 12
people hiking together: another rule violation.
Also, his film crew was cited for violating the
rules of their permit by recording video on the summit.
At first blush, the tickets issued June 12 seem a
mean-spirited response to Jurek's impressive feat of endurance.
But the issue goes much deeper, reflecting a
growing unease with how new-school recreation
like ultra-running, BASE jumping, peak-bagging,
group clinics and stand-up paddling fits inside
traditional perspectives on how Americans use their protected wildlands.
Modern-day adventurers are not always the lonely,
Thoreau-inspired hiker ambling through the woods
a reflective approach that for decades has been
promoted as the only way to truly appreciate
unspoiled lands. Yes, the new adventurers, like
their predecessors, briefly are escaping their hectic, industrial lives.
But they are using new tools, pursuing adrenaline
surges and often trumpeting their play in online photos and videos.
Jensen Bissell is the director of the
private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
displayed on his headband and amply logoed
support van should not be angling for
commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
the park and are incongruous with the park's
mission of resource protection, the appreciation
of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.
Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?
Ed Dolan the Great – Minnesota
John B.
Jun 14, 2016, 6:56:35 a.m.2016-06-14
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:36:28 -0500, "EdwardDolan" <edo...@iw.net>
wrote:
My god! Look at the space this guy wastes, much ado about nothing,
until we get to the last little bit where that Park manager tells this
galoot to get out of his park.
>Jensen Bissell is the director of the
>private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
>has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
>quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
>Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
>Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
>displayed on his headband and amply logoed
>support van should not be angling for
>commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
>"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
>the park and are incongruous with the park's
>mission of resource protection, the appreciation
>of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
But I guess the Greater One just didn't read the whole thing before he
posted it as he sort of missed the part where the park manager tells
the guy to get out of the park.
Can you imagine, just like Dolan, the park didn't want any flamboyant
blokes mucking up their park. With one big difference. It is THIER
park. The Great One wants to bar people from OUR park.
Nice try Doodles old chap.
Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
Keep you nose to the grindstone old chap and perhaps one day you will
prosper.
As an aside, I never asked. Fair ladies are your cup of tea, I hope?
--
cheers,
John B.
wrote:
My god! Look at the space this guy wastes, much ado about nothing,
until we get to the last little bit where that Park manager tells this
galoot to get out of his park.
>Jensen Bissell is the director of the
>private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
>has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
>quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
>Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
>Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
>displayed on his headband and amply logoed
>support van should not be angling for
>commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
>"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
>the park and are incongruous with the park's
>mission of resource protection, the appreciation
>of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
posted it as he sort of missed the part where the park manager tells
the guy to get out of the park.
Can you imagine, just like Dolan, the park didn't want any flamboyant
blokes mucking up their park. With one big difference. It is THIER
park. The Great One wants to bar people from OUR park.
Nice try Doodles old chap.
Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
Keep you nose to the grindstone old chap and perhaps one day you will
prosper.
As an aside, I never asked. Fair ladies are your cup of tea, I hope?
--
cheers,
John B.
EdwardDolan
Jun 14, 2016, 9:31:00 a.m.2016-06-14
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"John B." wrote in message
news:fnnvlb5l28o22mgp8...@4ax.com...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:36:28 -0500, "EdwardDolan" <edo...@iw.net>
wrote:
>> My god! Look at the space this guy wastes, much ado about nothing,
until we get to the last little bit where that Park manager tells this
galoot to get out of his park.
>Jensen Bissell is the director of the
>private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
>has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
>quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
>Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
>Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
>displayed on his headband and amply logoed
>support van should not be angling for
>commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
>"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
>the park and are incongruous with the park's
>mission of resource protection, the appreciation
>of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
>> But I guess the Greater One just didn't read the whole thing before he
posted it as he sort of missed the part where the park manager tells
the guy to get out of the park.
You prove once again that you don’t know how to read. It is all one piece.
No contradictions at all.
>> Can you imagine, just like Dolan, the park didn't want any flamboyant
blokes mucking up their park. With one big difference. It is THIER
park. The Great One wants to bar people from OUR park.
Parks are managed by managers - period! If only all land managers were as
smart and correct as these.
>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
"You prove once again that you don’t know how to read. It is all one piece.
No contradictions at all." - Ed Dolan
news:fnnvlb5l28o22mgp8...@4ax.com...
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 03:36:28 -0500, "EdwardDolan" <edo...@iw.net>
wrote:
>> My god! Look at the space this guy wastes, much ado about nothing,
until we get to the last little bit where that Park manager tells this
galoot to get out of his park.
>Jensen Bissell is the director of the
>private-trust- funded Baxter State Park, which
>has a reputation for fiercely protecting the
>quiet wilderness experience. He turned to
>Facebook to explain his reasoning for citing
>Jurek, arguing the ultra-runner's sponsors
>displayed on his headband and amply logoed
>support van should not be angling for
>commercial gain inside Maine's largest parcel of wilderness.
>"Corporate events," he wrote, "have no place in
>the park and are incongruous with the park's
>mission of resource protection, the appreciation
>of nature and the respect of the experience of others in the park."
>> But I guess the Greater One just didn't read the whole thing before he
posted it as he sort of missed the part where the park manager tells
the guy to get out of the park.
No contradictions at all.
>> Can you imagine, just like Dolan, the park didn't want any flamboyant
blokes mucking up their park. With one big difference. It is THIER
park. The Great One wants to bar people from OUR park.
smart and correct as these.
>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
No contradictions at all." - Ed Dolan
news16
Jun 14, 2016, 10:55:06 a.m.2016-06-14
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:31:01 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
>
>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
Is that Ed admitting to his problem.
>
>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
John B.
Jun 14, 2016, 10:24:48 p.m.2016-06-14
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:31:01 -0500, "EdwardDolan" <edo...@iw.net>
wrote:
Ah Doodles, there you go slither and sliding around the meaning. Or
didn't you read the part about, "Jensen Bissell is the director of the
private-trust- funded Baxter State Park".
Apparently, just as is the of the word "bicycle" you don't understand
the word "private".
If you had the intelligence of a gnat, or were bright enough to think
before you open your mouth you might have figured out that "the park
was established by 28 donations of land, in trust, from park donor
Percival P. Baxter between the years of 1931 and 1962, eventually
creating a park of over 200,000 acres in size. Baxter Park is not part
of the Maine State Park system. Sole governance is provided by the
Baxter State Park Authority".
You see, Dooley, Baxter Park is private property and just like your
front lawn, the owner can do what he wants there, make any law he
wants.
The only question is, can you really be that stupid?
--
cheers,
John B.
wrote:
didn't you read the part about, "Jensen Bissell is the director of the
private-trust- funded Baxter State Park".
Apparently, just as is the of the word "bicycle" you don't understand
the word "private".
If you had the intelligence of a gnat, or were bright enough to think
before you open your mouth you might have figured out that "the park
was established by 28 donations of land, in trust, from park donor
Percival P. Baxter between the years of 1931 and 1962, eventually
creating a park of over 200,000 acres in size. Baxter Park is not part
of the Maine State Park system. Sole governance is provided by the
Baxter State Park Authority".
You see, Dooley, Baxter Park is private property and just like your
front lawn, the owner can do what he wants there, make any law he
wants.
The only question is, can you really be that stupid?
--
cheers,
John B.
EdwardDolan
Jun 15, 2016, 10:30:41 p.m.2016-06-15
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"news16" wrote in message news:njp5s9$8nc$2...@dont-email.me...
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:31:01 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
What did Ed Dolan write? None of what follows.
>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
>>>> Is that Ed admitting to his problem.
What problem? You are too god damn fucking stupid for me to bother with.
>>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:31:01 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
>>>> Is that Ed admitting to his problem.
EdwardDolan
Jun 15, 2016, 10:43:33 p.m.2016-06-15
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"John B." wrote in message
news:5ae1mbhfscull1643...@4ax.com...
>>>> Apparently, just as is the of the word "bicycle" you don't understand
the word "private".
>>>> If you had the intelligence of a gnat, or were bright enough to think
before you open your mouth you might have figured out that "the park
was established by 28 donations of land, in trust, from park donor
Percival P. Baxter between the years of 1931 and 1962, eventually
creating a park of over 200,000 acres in size. Baxter Park is not part
of the Maine State Park system. Sole governance is provided by the
Baxter State Park Authority".
there a State Park Authority? The State must somehow be involved.
>>>> You see, Dooley, Baxter Park is private property and just like your
front lawn, the owner can do what he wants there, make any law he
wants.
relationship between any private property owners and the State. Think you
are up to explaining it? Or are you just a piss pot and a bullshitter?
news16
Jun 17, 2016, 3:32:05 a.m.2016-06-17
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:43:34 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
>
> Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.
Wheels are for everywhere and Io like mountain women.
>
> Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.
>
news16
Jun 17, 2016, 3:33:26 a.m.2016-06-17
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:30:40 -0500, EdwardDolan wrote:
>s.
>
>>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
>> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
>> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
>
>>>>> Is that Ed admitting to his problem.
>
> What problem? You are too god damn fucking stupid for me to bother with.
Is that why you keep replying.
>s.
>
>>>> Nice try Doodles old chap.
>> Unfortunately a pratfall rather than a victory dance, but do keep
>> trying. What is that they say? Faint heart never won fair lady?
>
>>>>> Is that Ed admitting to his problem.
>
> What problem? You are too god damn fucking stupid for me to bother with.
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