Auto Paint Query
Mercellus Bohren
I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
funny.
A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
Thanks for any useful information.
Edward M. Kennedy
Just rub some sand on the newly painted areas.
--Tedward
Mercellus Bohren
> "Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote
Do you mean fine-grit sandpaper?
Edward M. Kennedy
I was kidding. Fine-grit might actually work, and what the hell,
it already looks funny. Go real easy on it though.
I trust it's shinier and the color stands out as new, as opposed
to the slightly faded paint of the rest of the car.
--Tedward
NapalmHeart
"Mercellus Bohren" <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eea70638-886e-421e...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
They should be able to just fix your mess. At the worst
they would repaint the hood.
Ken
Mercellus Bohren
> "Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote
I figured you were yoking. I think I'm going to take it in and have
the fine upstanding honest body shop guys give me an estimate.
Mercellus Bohren
> "Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body shop? I
really don't have a clue what something like this would cost. I've
searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a fix
on the dollars.
PanHandler
I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body shop? I
really don't have a clue what something like this would cost. I've
searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a fix
on the dollars.
Figure six hours at local labor rates plus around $40 in materials to do the
entire hood.
Doug Miller
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, merce...@yahoo.com says...
> I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
> What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body shop? I
> really don't have a clue what something like this would cost. I've
> searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a fix
> on the dollars.
>
Had you thought about picking up the phone and calling a couple of body
shops and actually asking??
Mercellus Bohren
> "Mercellus Bohren" <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Looks to be $40-45 an hour around these parts. So, maybe around $300.
Do you know if they can take a swipe at touching up small areas on the
side of the car, without having to paint an entire door, or quarter-
panel, etc.?
Mercellus Bohren
> In article <08cce828-7f90-4844-9f89-04349aa99d56
>
> > I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
> > What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body shop? I
> > really don't have a clue what something like this would cost. I've
> > searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a fix
> > on the dollars.
>
> Had you thought about picking up the phone and calling a couple of body
> shops and actually asking??
I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
disability.
PanHandler
Same likelihood as the hood I would imagine.
David L. Martel
Your State probably offers special telephone apparatus for the hearing
impaired. Or you could fax or e-mail your query.
Dave M.
lein
Why don't you just buy a can of flat-black spray paint and use it to
paint the hood. If your wife says anything, tell her you did this to
reduce sun glare.
se...@hotmail.com
Tegger
a73e-ad7...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
Just how "hearing impaired" are you"?
--
Tegger
Edward M. Kennedy
>>> > I'm sure prices vary. But, say they wanted to paint the whole hood.
>>> > What would the going rate be for just that at decent auto body shop? I
>>> > really don't have a clue what something like this would cost. I've
>>> > searched the web of semi-useless info, and I can't seem to get a fix
>>> > on the dollars.
>>>
>>> Had you thought about picking up the phone and calling a couple of body
>>> shops and actually asking??
>>
>> I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>> possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>> disability.
>
> Just how "hearing impaired" are you"?
He can hear a fly landing on a babbling brook.
--Tedward
KLS
<merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>disability.
Mercellus, I am totally sympathetic to this, but the bottom line is
that you need to get local prices for this work, which presumably you
will be getting done locally. My suggestion, as someone intimately
familiar with your circumstances, is to get local prices from several
body shops and then post back here with your results to see how they
might compare. Make sure they are truly comparable (how many hours of
labor, etc.).
Even better would be to ask friends and colleagues whom they've used
for similar work, especially if they were happy with the businesses
years after the work was done.
Your quest is a lot easier than mine: I'm getting prices for a
driveway resurfacing job, and I'm having a hard time determining which
contractors are reliable (this particular line of business is like
roofing: full of disreputable characters). JoeSpareBedroom: can you
tell me if Tumia Paving is a reliable business? I am avoiding Tandoi
based on a couple of suggestions, but I can find nothing on Tumia, and
I don't want to be seduced by the nice older couple that came over to
give their price last night....
Tegger
4ax.com:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:15:41 -0700 (PDT), Mercellus Bohren
> <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I am hearing impaired and like to use the internet newsgroups if
>>possible, before I go in and have someone take advantage of my
>>disability.
>
> Mercellus, I am totally sympathetic to this,
Don't be. At least not until he gives some sort of details
about his "impairment".
--
Tegger
Doug Miller
34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, merce...@yahoo.com says...
relay service.
fred...@yahoo.co.uk
I wouldn't waste your money if I was you. What you should do is get
all your cash and blow it on crack and prostitutes, believe me you
won't regret it. However if you are adamant, a garage near me called
Turd Polishers Ltd will do it for fifty quid.
PS, Do you know a good cure for itchy bollocks?
KLS
wrote:
Excuse me? Why does s/he owe you or anyone else "details about his
'impairment'"? My interpretation, which no doubt you will reject, is
that s/he is not comfortable making inquiries on the telephone (which,
as Doug Miller pointed out, can be worked around by using the various
relay services, but which are cumbersome compared with the ease that
non-hearing-impaired people use the phone), or s/he may not understand
people clearly when talking to them in person. Regardless, the OP is
expressing a not uncommon feeling of uncertainty about the information
being gathered, especially as a member of a group of people famously
disconnected and cut off from the incidental flow of information you
(presumably hearing as more than 90% of the populace is) take for
granted. Some day you might be in this category, you know, and you'd
appreciate a little sensitivity and respect.
Tegger
4ax.com:
I AM in that category, hence my posts.
--
Tegger
KLS
wrote:
I still don't understand why you need details about his/her disability
before allowing yourself to be sympathetic. Is there some "I'm more
deaf than you" standard of yours s/he has to meet?
the_andr...@yahoo.com
Is this the old SAAB? If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
tell 'em you want the $300 special.
You might want to ask if you can stick around and help 'em tape it, so
they don't paint your tires, rims, and windows.
While we're on the topic, what appears to be the clear coat on my 95
BMW has blistered and cracked in a few spots on the trunk lid -
must've been bird turd - any recommendations for that?
a.
J. Clarke
The trouble with "touching up small areas" is that the paint, even
with computerized color-matching, is never an _exact_ match, so just
touching up a small spot leaves a visible repair. The way around it
is to use the spray gun to "blend" the color over a relatively wide
area resulting in a gradual color change that isn't noticeable.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Mortimer
news:g6pms...@news4.newsguy.com...
> The trouble with "touching up small areas" is that the paint, even
> with computerized color-matching, is never an _exact_ match, so just
> touching up a small spot leaves a visible repair. The way around it
> is to use the spray gun to "blend" the color over a relatively wide
> area resulting in a gradual color change that isn't noticeable.
I've found that touch-up paint is always darker than the real paint of the
car - even on areas such as the sill of the boot/trunk or of the doors which
don't see much sunlight so can't fade as a result of this. I've found that
the best match comes from cleaning the brush in the lide of the tube of
touch-up paint and then dipping it into the very top of the paint (which has
been allowed to settle for a long time beforehand without shaking) so as to
get the most dilute concentration of pigment in the base material. I know
this goes against the advice to shake the paint throughly beforehand!
Providing the undercoat is the same colour as the top coat (*) then maybe
it's better to cover it with clear lacquer rather than paint.
(*) I once had a car with dark green paint that had been applied on a white
undercoat, so the least little scratch or stone chip showed up as white :-(
PanHandler
<the_andr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2aac2da0-39c5-4c21...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Is this the old SAAB? If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
tell 'em you want the $300 special.
You might want to ask if you can stick around and help 'em tape it, so
they don't paint your tires, rims, and windows.
While we're on the topic, what appears to be the clear coat on my 95
BMW has blistered and cracked in a few spots on the trunk lid -
must've been bird turd - any recommendations for that?
How would the overspray hit the "rims" and not the entire wheel? :-)
It's a good thing elephants don't fly!
Don Phillipson
> I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
Touch up paint in the $5 sticks requires real skill to apply
(almost invisibly) Spray cans of touch up paint (custom-
mixed, about $25) require much less skill to apply
invisibly, so long as you apply thinnest coats over the
largest area.
To restore shine, most paint repairs also require a
top coat of uncoloured shiny finish, also available to
the maker's specifications from specialist paint mixing shops.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Mercellus Bohren
<the_andrew_sm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 4:59 pm, Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> > pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> > headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> > color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> > now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
> > swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
> > brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
> > funny.
>
> > A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
> > just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
> > much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
>
> > Thanks for any useful information.
>
> Is this the old SAAB? If so, roll that thing into Earl Scheib and
> tell 'em you want the $300 special.
>
My old '97 Saab died on the operating table at the Saab Specialist a
couple of weeks ago. She was never the same after I drove her
underwater for a few seconds a year or so ago. I bought a low-mileage
2002 Saab 95 3.0t V6 Arc. It's got air-conditioned seats! The paint is
still good on it, so I think I'll just get the body shop guys to take
a look and see what they can do.
the_andr...@yahoo.com
> <the_andrew_sm...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Overspray? This is Earl Scheib, that wouldn't be overspray. If it
ain't taped, it's painted.
a.
Scott Dorsey
>On Jul 30, 9:29=A0am, "PanHandler" <B...@digital.net> wrote:
>>
>> How would the overspray hit the "rims" and not the entire wheel? =A0 :-)
>
>Overspray? This is Earl Scheib, that wouldn't be overspray. If it
>ain't taped, it's painted.
Hey, at least they use the spray gun instead of a 4" brush....
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Ike
Take it to Earl Scheib. He'll paint ANY car for just Twenty-nine
ninety-five!
--
Yrs.,
Ike
********************************************************
"L'audace, L'audace, Toujour L'audace."
********************************************************
http://www.frappr.com/rsfckers
Doug Miller
>Take it to Earl Scheib. He'll paint ANY car for just Twenty-nine
>ninety-five!
Friend of mine checked into that back in the 70s.... the ads said "we'll paint
your entire car for only $29.95."
He found that was literally true.
If you wanted them to mask off the glass, tires, trim, headlights, taillights,
turn signals, and so forth before they started spraying -- well, that was an
extra couple hundred dollars.
SteveB
> the_andr...@yahoo.com <the_andr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 30, 9:29=A0am, "PanHandler" <B...@digital.net> wrote:
> > >
> >> How would the overspray hit the "rims" and not the entire wheel?
> =A0 :-)
> >
> > Overspray? This is Earl Scheib, that wouldn't be overspray. If it
> > ain't taped, it's painted.
>
> Hey, at least they use the spray gun instead of a 4" brush....
> --scott
I remember a maintenance department pickup my highschool had painted
back in 1974. Literally _everything_ was painted schoolbuss yellow
except the headlights and the windows. We thought it was the funniest
thing we'd ever seen.
Back then they had a $29.95 special, as I recall it, and my school got
every drop of paint they could.
--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX
Tegger
news:elh094humkg5hlu1g...@4ax.com:
>
> I still don't understand why you need details about his/her disability
> before allowing yourself to be sympathetic. Is there some "I'm more
> deaf than you" standard of yours s/he has to meet?
>
I know why you're doing this. You're just trying to be nice; to be a good
person, sticking up for life's downtrodden. That's a normal reaction, and
an admirable one. It helps prove that human beings are, in the main,
decent, caring, and just want to help make things better. But in reacting
this way, you're not seeing the difference between having a problem and
using that problem as a self-serving ruse for other things.
What got my back up was the OP's use of official deaf-bureaucracy
buzzwords, like "hearing impaired", and "disability", and then playing the
victim card by saying he was worried somebody would "take advantage" of him
because of his "disability".
I have one working ear, with a hearing aid stuck in that one (deafness
diagnosed at age 5; am 46 now). I have less unassisted hearing than most
people officially classified as deaf. In spite of that, I function more-or-
less normally in hearing society. It irks me no end to have the deaf and/or
hard-of-hearing crowd pull the victim thing.
Just speaking for myself, of course, I find the idea of victimization to be
grossly insulting, as is the idea of "impaired" or "disabled", especially
in the sense of that condition requiring me to receive special treatment,
or making me subject to specially bad treatment.
--
Tegger
KLS
wrote:
>KLS <xym...@suds.com> wrote in
>news:elh094humkg5hlu1g...@4ax.com:
>>
>> I still don't understand why you need details about his/her disability
>> before allowing yourself to be sympathetic. Is there some "I'm more
>> deaf than you" standard of yours s/he has to meet?
>
>I know why you're doing this. You're just trying to be nice; to be a good
>person, sticking up for life's downtrodden. That's a normal reaction, and
>an admirable one. It helps prove that human beings are, in the main,
>decent, caring, and just want to help make things better. But in reacting
>this way, you're not seeing the difference between having a problem and
>using that problem as a self-serving ruse for other things.
I think you forgot that after warming up the OP with a little
sympathy, I told him/her s/he really had to get local quotes, period,
and would get more productive responses here by posting those as
points of comparison.
>What got my back up was the OP's use of official deaf-bureaucracy
>buzzwords, like "hearing impaired", and "disability", and then playing the
>victim card by saying he was worried somebody would "take advantage" of him
>because of his "disability".
I understand this, too (you and I have a lot more in common than you
might realize), but in my opinion your initial response was not
instructive enough to the OP to avoid this kind of language. What you
say here makes a lot more sense.
>I have one working ear, with a hearing aid stuck in that one (deafness
>diagnosed at age 5; am 46 now). I have less unassisted hearing than most
>people officially classified as deaf. In spite of that, I function more-or-
>less normally in hearing society. It irks me no end to have the deaf and/or
>hard-of-hearing crowd pull the victim thing.
Don't forget: your success in society does not assure others' similar
success. What works for you doesn't for a lot of people, especially
if they can't talk or speechread. And simply notifying people that
they're deaf or h-o-h isn't a "pull the victim thing" in my book as it
helps people understand whom they're dealing with. But I do agree
that often this information is irrelevant to matters at hand on
newsgroups. Cocktail parties and job interviews are entirely
different situations.
>Just speaking for myself, of course, I find the idea of victimization to be
>grossly insulting, as is the idea of "impaired" or "disabled", especially
>in the sense of that condition requiring me to receive special treatment,
>or making me subject to specially bad treatment.
Makes sense to me, too.
Doug Miller
>paint. It was not anywhere near a couple hundred dollars. The masking job was
>not always exactly perfect, but they did mask the car. You can still get a
>"production" paint job a Maaco today for about $400 complete.
I'm just telling you what my friend told me...
Mercellus Bohren
> In article <uo42941che6e3n3jcp8abnvn7uq8enk...@4ax.com>, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> >On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:53:11 GMT, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
> >>In article <9F1kk.7863$qg.6...@fe115.usenetserver.com>, Ike <I...@SHAEF.NET>
> > wrote:
>
> >>>Take it to Earl Scheib. He'll paint ANY car for just Twenty-nine
> >>>ninety-five!
>
> >>Friend of mine checked into that back in the 70s.... the ads said "we'll paint
>
> >>your entire car for only $29.95."
>
> >>He found that was literally true.
>
> >>If you wanted them to mask off the glass, tires, trim, headlights, taillights,
>
> >>turn signals, and so forth before they started spraying -- well, that was an
> >>extra couple hundred dollars.
>
> >No it wasn't. The labor charge was 29.95. The extra cost was for materials and
> >paint. It was not anywhere near a couple hundred dollars. The masking job was
> >not always exactly perfect, but they did mask the car. You can still get a
> >"production" paint job a Maaco today for about $400 complete.
>
> I'm just telling you what my friend told me...
Now that's funny.
N8N
> I decided to do some touch-up painting on my car where the road
> pebbles had dinged the paint on the hood in the front near the
> headlight. I ordered the correct touch-up paint based on the paint
> color number. I guess I got a little overzealous in my usage, because
> now I have a pretty funny looking patchwork of obvious touch-up paint
> swatches in about a six-inch area of the car hood (or bonnet for you
> brit-holes). There are also a couple of other small spots that look
> funny.
>
> A local auto body place does computer paint matching. Can I have them
> just paint these areas, or will they want to paint the whole car? How
> much do you think to just touch-up my rsfck-up?
>
> Thanks for any useful information.
In addition to the other suggestions you've received on this issue, if
you want to try to fix it yourself, you could do the following...
make sure that the touch up paint that you have applied is *above* the
surface of the original paint. If not, put some more on. Get to a
real auto paint supply and get yourself a "nib file" or "run razor" or
similar device, an assortment of fine (1000-2000) grit sandpaper, a
good power buffer and lambswool pad, and some polishing compound.
Explain to the counter guy what you're trying to do, he will likely be
able to offer recommendations on specific products to use. Carefully
bring the level of the touch up paint down to the level of the
surrounding paint with the nib file, taking care not to actually cut
into the original paint. Then wash the panel THOROUGHLY with dish
soap and warm water, rinse, and wet sand the panel lightly with fine
grit sandpaper - nothing you'll find at your local hardware store,
start with 1000 or 1500, work up to 2000. Don't try to take a whole
lot of paint off, you're just gently smoothing the surface. Then buff
with polishing compound on a lambswool pad, wash again with your dish
soap, and apply two or three coats of good wax.
enjoy!
nate
Mercellus Bohren
Damb, Nate. The rscking intertubes were useful today. Thx bud.
Edward M. Kennedy
--Tedward
"N8N" <njn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:52057b7c-b743-4307...@r35g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Mercellus Bohren
> I TOLD YOU TO SAND IT YOU LOOSER!!!
>
> --Tedward
>
42 MESSAGES TO GET BACK THE FIRST ANSWER!!!!!1111 THIS GOES ON YOUR
PERMANENT RECORD!!!!!! [rutsie marker]
N8N
great, I try to help and now I have the Violent Femmes stuck in my
head. thanks a lot! (kidding, I think...)
nate
Edward M. Kennedy
> > I TOLD YOU TO SAND IT YOU LOOSER!!!
>
> > --Tedward
>
> 42 MESSAGES TO GET BACK THE FIRST ANSWER!!!!!1111 THIS GOES ON YOUR
> PERMANENT RECORD!!!!!! [rutsie marker]
<
<great, I try to help and now I have the Violent Femmes stuck in my
<head. thanks a lot! (kidding, I think...)
Welcome to rsfc, where no good deed goes un-pun-ished.
And it could have been worse. It could have been The Wiggles.
Think about that the next your driving around with an alligator
or dressing up as a gay pirate.
--Tedward