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Seeburg54

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Mar 19, 2002, 12:05:36 PM3/19/02
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Need info. on a 1995 Boss Mustang. How many made and the worth of a good car
with 60,000 miles.Any info will help as I am thinking about buying one of
these cars.
TIA Will


Philippe Hamel

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Mar 19, 2002, 3:54:05 PM3/19/02
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Wasn't that just a sticker package added by the dealer?

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Johnny Johnson

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Mar 19, 2002, 5:10:04 PM3/19/02
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Philippe Hamel wrote:

> Wasn't that just a sticker package added by the dealer?

Probably: the only FoMoCo "Boss" in 1995 was the Boss 429 powered "10.0
L Boss" Mustang designed by John Coletti (and inspired by Larry Shinoda)
and the Ford SVT Concept Lab:

http://www.svt.ford.com/

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>> Need info. on a 1995 Boss Mustang. How many made and the worth of a good car

>> with 60,000 miles. Any info will help as I am thinking about buying one of
>> these cars.
>> TIA Will

Bill S.

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Mar 19, 2002, 5:44:40 PM3/19/02
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Will,

Your email address sounds quite familiar, but yet I cannot place my
finger on it just yet.........As for your question, Ford did not put out
a "BOSS" mustang in 1995...However, Larry Shinoda and Co did put out a
decal set for the regular Mustang line......Nothing more than a decal
set on a Mustang......if someone is trying to pawn off a regular Mustang
as a RARE BOSS MUSTANG, than if I was you, I would walk away at a very
fast pace, as the seller is just trying to part you from your
money........


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

NICHOLAS D

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IMO just like the early C/S (California Special) which was pretty much a
decoration set, the Boss Shinoda will be worth money. I believe Shinoda who
originally developed the Boss signed each copy adding to the value as the
governor of California never signed the C/S and it is still worth some
change. Plus they are serial numbered. That was a joke about the governor
but you get the point. 2003 will be a newer Boss. Larry Shinoda who
originally worked with GM helped develop the '63 Corvette Split window and
Z28. He later came over to Ford and designed the Boss Mustang. He promoted
this newer generation Boss and then passed away in '97.

-Nicholas D


Karl Fengler (HOG FVR)

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Did they make any 1995 BOSS Mustangs... ????

Garth Almgren

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:27:59 AM3/20/02
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Karl Fengler (HOG FVR) wrote:
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>>Need info. on a 1995 Boss Mustang.
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> Did they make any 1995 BOSS Mustangs... ????
>

Yes. The Shinoda Boss package. The ones you'll see for sale were mainly
a sticker and ground effects package. In fact, the sticker sets are
still for sale, at least at www.StencilsAndStripes.com (for $280).

However, there was ONE made in 1994 that could truly be called a BOSS.
Larry Shinoda started with a Cobra and tossed in a SVO 429 motor bored
out to 605 cubes.

Quick stats, cut 'n' pasted:

1994 BOSS 429
SPECS:
Chassis: Cobra
Engine: SVO 429 Block Bored 605ci
Fuel System: Double EFI
Compression ratio: 10.5:1
Horsepower: 670 @ 5500rpm (!!)
Torque: 700 ft/lb@4250rpm (!!)
Axle: 2.73:1
Tires: Front - 275/40ZR17
Rear - 315/35ZR17
Acceleration: 0-60 - 3.5 seconds, 0-100 - 7.4 Seconds, 1/4 Mile - 11.2
seconds @ 127.3 mph
Brakes: 13" Vented Disc/Brembo
Fuel: 110+ Octane
MPG: Don't Ask!
Price as Tested: $250,000

See http://www.streetclassics.com/mustangs/boss1.htm (You can't tell
from that picture, but the 429 Boss is bright orange)

There was a really cool shootout between this Boss and a super-Camaro in
Motor Trend, and neither car got much shooting done because they both
kept breaking parts IIRC. I'll have to go home and see if I still have
that issue. I know I wouldn't have thrown it away... :0)

--
~/Garth
'83 V6 GL Hatch (AKA V6stang)
http://www.v6stang.com/v6stang/
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/v6stang/

Bill S.

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Mar 20, 2002, 7:06:50 AM3/20/02
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Sorry, I disagree here, as the decal package was a dealer/end user
installed item only, while the California Special was a package put
together from FoMoCo...........Shinoda, if asked, would sign any nice
muscle car that was available, as he was truly a car guy...Adding the
decal package on to a Mustang, will not increase it's value at
all....having a famous person sign your car may increase the worth of
the vehicle just a bit, but not to the point where it will make a
significant jump to differentiate it from the rest of the bunch........


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

PS: Just calling them like I see it folks............

NICHOLAS D

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:19:40 PM3/20/02
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Absolutely not. Do a search on the vehicle. Here is a quick link of a
certificate of ownership by Shinoda himself:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/6218/home_main.html

Certain names will bring an added value to a car. Shelby and Saleen are two
of them, Shinoda will be another one.

-Nicholas D

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NICHOLAS D

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:22:29 PM3/20/02
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http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/6218/home_main.html
Better yet look at the whole thing from one owner:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/6218/home_main.html

-Nicholas D


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Michael King

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:23:07 PM3/20/02
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It's a sticker package, no added performance unless your a ricer. It's only
worth what someone will pay for it.
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Mike King
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"Member Since 96"

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Bill S.

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Mar 20, 2002, 6:44:09 PM3/20/02
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Nicholas,

While the group and the person/people behind it say they are
"certified" BOSS cars, they were, and still are nothing more than a
decal package submitted to, and marked by a private company other than
FoMoCo.......The decal package is what was marketed, and not a full
blown, turn key automobile.

To quote off the "Team Shinoda" web page:
http://www.teamshinoda.com/certification.htm
"Effective January 1, 1998 the family of legendary designer Larry
Shinoda approved the certifying of 1994 and up Mustang's and Cobra's.
This can be any car that meets the required upgrades, using the required
parts and craftsmanship meeting the standard set forth by Larry Shinoda
before his Passing in November 1997."

The way I read it is quite simple, they have formed their own little
club, and all you need to due to have your car "certified" as a BOSS
"Shinoda" Mustang is to follow their simple
instructions..........Bolting on a set of spoilers, wheels, and adding
the decal kit does not make it any more special than any other modified
car.....is it a Shinoda "BOSS" Mustang, in their eyes yes (will it make
them more valuable later on in life, I doubt it), is it a car similar to
a Saleen, or a Roush Mustang, no, sorry, it is still not, as those cars
were built as turn key cars to be sold new at selected dealerships. Big
difference when you think about it......

Just my continuing two cents worth on this particular subject.


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

PS: Once again, just calling it like I see it.......

NICHOLAS D

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Mar 20, 2002, 7:32:10 PM3/20/02
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Bill,

Respectfully disagree with you. This vehicle was endorsed by Shinoda. They
are members of SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association)
http://www.sema.org/content/?id=24535 and are working on developing a
Shinoda class for judging in National shows with Mustang Club of America (if
link does not work try http://www.mustang.org/).
Here is one owners link:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/6218/home_main.html
You can see Larry Shinoda with one here:
http://www.musclecarstuff.com/links.htm
Link to Shinoda Mustangs:
http://www.teamshinoda.com/

Oh in fact I own a 1:18 model of this one:
http://www.eaglecollectibles.com/18-scale/unhv3144.html

-Nicholas D


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NICHOLAS D

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Mar 20, 2002, 7:43:22 PM3/20/02
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True with any vehicle to include early Saleens. It costs allot of money for
tuner cars to emissions qualify there vehicles. That is why Saleens did not
offer added power early on nor did the ASC Mclarens for that very same
reason. Any car is worth what a person will pay for it that is silly to say.
Please see my other post to Bill regarding authenticity. Better yet I will
copy and paste it here.

<<<<<<<Bill,

Respectfully disagree with you. This vehicle was endorsed by Shinoda. They
are members of SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association)
http://www.sema.org/content/?id=24535 and are working on developing a
Shinoda class for judging in National shows with Mustang Club of America (if
link does not work try http://www.mustang.org/).
Here is one owners link:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/6218/home_main.html
You can see Larry Shinoda with one here:
http://www.musclecarstuff.com/links.htm
Link to Shinoda Mustangs:
http://www.teamshinoda.com/

Oh in fact I own a 1:18 model of this one:
http://www.eaglecollectibles.com/18-scale/unhv3144.html>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

-Nicholas D

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NICHOLAS D

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Mar 20, 2002, 8:10:19 PM3/20/02
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Bill I am of the opinion that these were sold factory turnkey '94-97. When
he passed away his family continued with the tradition of an aftermarket
endorsement.

Check out this link:
http://www.mustangweekly.com/2001/december/boss/boss1.asp

Oh by the way I emailed the people at Shinoda. When and if they respond I
will keep you informed, if you are interested.

-Nicholas D

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Bill S.

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Mar 20, 2002, 9:39:22 PM3/20/02
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Regardless, the car was not, nor ever built as a turn key automobile,
so, therefore, it is not considered a specialty automobile....Just a
component package....See my next answer to your other posting for
details...

Bill S.

Bill S.

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Mar 20, 2002, 9:48:39 PM3/20/02
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I'll quote right from the Mustang weekly article to prove my point:

"After his passing, Klok teamed with Shinoda’s daughter
Karen Shinoda and son-in-law Brian Flahive, along with Dallas Mustang,
to "continue the work of Larry Shinoda" by offering the Boss Shinoda
components to 1994 and later Mustang owners."

The word "Components" is the key word here....While they offer a styling
package based on the only "Shinoda BOSS Mustang" built in 1994 (Coletti
had his hand in this build as well), it was never sold turn key from any
authorized, or non authorized Ford dealerships..........Sorry, but the
idea that a component based after market package added to any Mustang
produced for a specific year makes it a "special, limited edition", or
anything else even remotely collectible, is working on fiction, and not
fact....Sure, if I was trying to sell my package to a select group, I
too would hype it up and try to make it an "official" item.......But,
when the smoke clears, it is still not a specialized car.....just like
buying all of the Saleen parts from Saleen USA and putting it on a
stripped out used Mustang....Does it make it a real Saleen, nope, sorry
again......The same idea and premise is now behind the "Shinoda package"
being marketed by Dallas Mustang, and a few select aftermarkt
suppliers.........Adding the "Shinoda badge" does not make it anything
special...Just like my Cobra replica has an AC Ltd badge on it.....Does
it make it worth more than another car just like it, hell no, but it
does set it apart from the other cars with Shelby American badges on
it.............

Facts: Not assembled on the car originally, and sold new, then it is not
a collectors item.......It's your money, spend it any way you feel fit,
but do not expect the MCA, or SAAC to recognize it for anything else
than a component package, and not a limited production
automobile..........


Yours in Fords,

Bill S.

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Gt 215 hp stock
Gts was boss base platform
Some was cobra boss approx. 300 hp
Some guy on Web says 375 made in 95. I got one. Def does not sound like any other stang. I find out my father was master tech for 35 years at ford.
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