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Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 1, 2019, 5:03:58 AM9/1/19
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I was finally able to watch Paper Man!

A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.

Directed by Walter Grauman
Written by James D. Buchanan and Ronald Austin, story by Anthony Wilson

Cast
Dean Stockwell Avery Jensen
Stefanie Powers Karen McMillan
James Stacy Jerry
Tina Chen Lisa
Elliott Street Joel Fisher
James Olson Art Fletcher

Olson played Dr. Mark Hall in The Andromeda Strain, the "Odd Man" who
was tasked with making the decision to prevent the nuclear device from
going off.

The movie is suspence, thriller, and science fiction. Did a nice job of
predicting how computers would be used for identify theft and the misuse
of automatic computer control for many systems.

At university, the mainframe controls electrical and lighting systems
and an elevator, student and personnel records, a medical model dummy,
and dispensing of prescriptions at the hospital on campus. Yeah, it
shows what could possibly go wrong.

Four grad students--Karen, Jerry, Lisa, and Joel--discover that a
glitchy credit record has sent a credit card in someone else's name to a
university address. Now, they're pretty sure that the credit card is in
the name of a real person. Later on, they discover that the man is real
and what part of the address got transposed.

There is a range of ages among the students. Jerry appears to be in his
30s, and Joel is said to be 17. The two women are probably supposed to
be around 25 or so.

Lisa is a linguist, teaching the computer to recognize speech. Jerry is
a medical student but always in the computer lab for reasons that
weren't clear. Joel is some sort of computer genius but we see him
playing chess mostly. Karen is studying clinical psychology, so
Stephanie Powers is a hell of a lot more intelligent here than as Mrs.
Hart, and yes, she's gorgeous.

Jerry uses spent greenbar paper to create their mascot, the Paper Man.

They claim they won't use it to commit fraud, just make it easier for
them to spend as they cannot get credit themselves. Three of them use it
for smaller purchases, but the Stephanie Powers character uses it to
purchase shoes she cannot afford.

They end up owing in the... hundreds of dollars.

Jerry begs Avery to flesh out their paper man, 'cuz Avery is a genius.

How they do it is fascinating. It gets into an explanation of time
sharing. I'm barely old enough to remember this, as it was still around
to a small extent in the early '80s and gave some of us network access
in the days before ISPs and widespread use of the commercial Internet.

How it worked, according to the script: The university mainframe and
several other mainframes at corporations were networked. Corporations
that didn't have their own data centers were time sharing on this
network. Not only were they processing their data on someone else's
computer, they were also using these computers as file servers.

I'm not sure this was entirely real. What I remember about time sharing
was that it was available to residential users because it didn't
conflict with data demands during ordinary business hours.

Avery was able to find copies of the credit profile on the university
computer. He also gave the paper man a job history using just the
university computer.

What I really got a kick out of: Unlike today's tv instant computer
hacking with just three keystrokes, Avery spent all night hacking into
other systems. While the data itself wasn't secure, he spent a great
deal of time learning what codes were being used as this was proprietary
to every system he had to touch.

But a murderer gets involved, bringing their "paper man" to life. He
starts picking them off, one by one.

The set piece, which I remember from watching it as a kid, is Lisa's
murder. Alone in the lab, she's driven out of the lab by the computer
turning off the lights. She's herded toward the elevator cab. The
elevator stops between floors. The door slides open. She tries to crawl
onto the floor above but it's a fatal trap as the elevator door closes
and the cab descends, cutting her body in two.

We see no blood or gore but it's really effective.

Other parts are not so effective, like Avery's haunted memories of a
fatal car wreck that killed his parents when he was six. They were
fighting and his father wasn't looking out the front window. He blamed
himself for his parents' fight and it led to his institutionalization
for a few years.

The murderer tries to set up Avery for the various murders.

The explanation of the murderer's backstory at the end is a little too
pat, but otherwise the ending is reasonably effective.

This was released on DVD in 2008. There had been a VHS earlier. It was
not remastered and I'm guessing the same master was used for both. The
color had clearly shifted. "Color by Deluxe", the famous film lab going
back to the earliest days of movie production. I don't know if their
color film shifted worse than the moviefilm Eastman Kodak made for the
television studios.

I got a kick out of the bad color, as this is what second run tv looked
like when I was a kid, and so much of today's digital color restoration
doesn't actually restore colors back to what was filmed.

I ordered it through interlibrary loan, simply found a dozen entries in
the union catalog. The library was able to borrow two of them, which is
fortunate as one of the DVDs wouldn't play after an hour into the movie.
Unfortunately, the other had lousy sound but I had to switch to it to
finish the movie.

danny burstein

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Sep 1, 2019, 8:29:40 AM9/1/19
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In <qkg1hr$qca$1...@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:

>I was finally able to watch Paper Man!

>A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
>initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.

>Directed by Walter Grauman
>Written by James D. Buchanan and Ronald Austin, story by Anthony Wilson

>Cast
>Dean Stockwell Avery Jensen
>Stefanie Powers Karen McMillan
>James Stacy Jerry
>Tina Chen Lisa
>Elliott Street Joel Fisher
>James Olson Art Fletcher

don't forget Tina Chen's other great claim to
acting fame, namely as one of Tobert Redford's
co-workers at the "American Literary Historical
Society" in the movie "Six Days of the Condor".

She's the gal who Max von Sydow, ever so
politely, requested to move away from the
window..


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A Friend

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Sep 1, 2019, 1:04:56 PM9/1/19
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In article <qkgdjh$ops$1...@reader2.panix.com>, danny burstein
<dan...@panix.com> wrote:

> In <qkg1hr$qca$1...@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
>
> >I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>
> >A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
> >initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.
>
> >Directed by Walter Grauman
> >Written by James D. Buchanan and Ronald Austin, story by Anthony Wilson
>
> >Cast
> >Dean Stockwell Avery Jensen
> >Stefanie Powers Karen McMillan
> >James Stacy Jerry
> >Tina Chen Lisa
> >Elliott Street Joel Fisher
> >James Olson Art Fletcher
>
> don't forget Tina Chen's other great claim to
> acting fame, namely as one of Tobert Redford's
> co-workers at the "American Literary Historical
> Society" in the movie "Six Days of the Condor".
>
> She's the gal who Max von Sydow, ever so
> politely, requested to move away from the
> window..

I remember her more for being the one who said, "I won't beg," to which
Max says, "I know."

I don't like that movie, but I can't hate it entirely. Chen is one of
the few good things in it.

Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 1, 2019, 2:12:12 PM9/1/19
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A Friend wrote:
As Danny Burstein mentioned, I certainly remember her small role in
condor. I agree with both of you on her performance, and I agree with
you on Condor. I've never been able to really like the movie because
Robert Redford kidnaps and terrorizes Faye Dunaway. He locks her up then
leaves her alone for close to two days. She comes down with Helskinki
Syndrome, which is why she helps Redford. Somehow the audience is
supposed to believe two impossible things, that 1) Redford isn't the
villain because his cause is still just, and 2) she's fallen in love
with him rather than behaving like that as she's exhibiting cult-like
behavior.

Also, the final confrontation with Cliff Robertson is weak.

Getting back on topic, who remembers Paper Man?

mog...@hotmail.com

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Sep 1, 2019, 3:38:24 PM9/1/19
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As if a woman ever would say such a thing like 'I'm begging'.

danny burstein

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Sep 1, 2019, 4:40:52 PM9/1/19
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In <qkh1lq$c22$3...@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:

>>I remember her more for being the one who said, "I won't beg," to which
>>Max says, "I know."

Wasn't it "I won't scream"?

[snip]

>Getting back on topic, who remembers Paper Man?

<raises hand!!!>

danny burstein

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Sep 1, 2019, 6:11:25 PM9/1/19
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In <qkhach$gdi$2...@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> writes:

>In <qkh1lq$c22$3...@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:

>>>I remember her more for being the one who said, "I won't beg," to which
>>>Max says, "I know."

>Wasn't it "I won't scream"?

>[snip]

update:

Max von Sidow: Would you move from the window,
please?

Tina Chen: Pardon?

Max: Would you move from the window, please?

Tina: I won't scream.

Max: I know.

courtesy of and adapted from:
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/three-days-of-the-condor-script.html

Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 1, 2019, 7:15:23 PM9/1/19
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supe...@super70s.invalid wrote:
>A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:

>>I don't like that movie, but I can't hate it entirely. Chen is one of
>>the few good things in it.

>I don't think there's anything not to like about it, fine acting by
>Redford and Dunaway and directing by Sydney Pollack and one of the first
>post-Watergate government/corporate conspiracy flicks that would
>culminate next year with All The President's Men.

A Friend gets to have his own opinion. It's noted that you failed to
praise the adapted screenplay, which has any number of problems.

Neither the movie nor the novel had anything to do with Watergate,
except that there was a market to exploit for such stories post
Watergate.

It was hardly the first such movie and was probably in the middle of a
period in which Hollywood was making conspiracy movies. The Parallax
View was earlier, but also in the middle of the same period.

Lots of conspiracy movies in the 1960s. How about 7 Days in May? Nice,
preachy adapted screenplay by Rod Serling.

I suppose Advise and Consent (1959 novel, 1962 movie) has conspiracy
elements to it but it's more about exposing the ugly side of politic,
which would sort of link it to the Watergate Scandal.

Rhino

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Sep 1, 2019, 9:46:48 PM9/1/19
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I think you mean Stockhol Syndrome:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

> which is why she helps Redford. Somehow the audience is
> supposed to believe two impossible things, that 1) Redford isn't the
> villain because his cause is still just, and 2) she's fallen in love
> with him rather than behaving like that as she's exhibiting cult-like
> behavior.
>
> Also, the final confrontation with Cliff Robertson is weak.
>
> Getting back on topic, who remembers Paper Man?
>


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A Friend

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Sep 1, 2019, 10:06:54 PM9/1/19
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In article <qkhfmb$879$1...@reader2.panix.com>, danny burstein
<dan...@panix.com> wrote:

> In <qkhach$gdi$2...@reader2.panix.com> danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> writes:
>
> >In <qkh1lq$c22$3...@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
>
> >>>I remember her more for being the one who said, "I won't beg," to which
> >>>Max says, "I know."
>
> >Wasn't it "I won't scream"?
>
> >[snip]
>
> update:
>
> Max von Sidow: Would you move from the window,
> please?
>
> Tina Chen: Pardon?
>
> Max: Would you move from the window, please?
>
> Tina: I won't scream.
>
> Max: I know.
>
> courtesy of and adapted from:
>
> http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/three-days-of-the-condor-script.h
> tml

Thanks.

Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 2, 2019, 12:02:06 AM9/2/19
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I do not.

Class: Tell Rhino about Helsinki Syndrome.

Dimensional Traveler

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Sep 2, 2019, 1:33:09 AM9/2/19
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1) Stockholm syndrome occurs when a person is held captive or seriously
abused. The person becomes so used to this treatment and behavior that,
as time progresses, the victim begins to identify the captor as a friend
rather than an enemy. The abused person begins to have positive feelings
toward the criminal and views the police, friends and family as enemies.
Well-known incidents in which people suffered from Stockholm syndrome
are the Patty Hearst case and the Elizabeth Smart case. The syndrome was
erroneously referred to as "Helsinki syndrome" in the first "Die Hard"
movie, and the misnomer continues to appear in popular media.

2) A mental condition where the afflicted person is unable to
distinguish between the countries of Sweden and Finland, despite the two
being distinct from each other. This condition is usually a symptom of a
lack of general geographic awareness.

This condition usually manifests itself when the sufferer attempts to
convey the concept of Stockholm syndrome to others.


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Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 2, 2019, 1:47:03 AM9/2/19
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>1) Stockholm syndrome. . .

Nonresponsive, D.T.

alvey

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Sep 2, 2019, 3:55:44 AM9/2/19
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Class: The crime was in Stockholm. That's why it's known as 'The Stockholm
Syndrome'. You're wrong.




alvey
Committing the dangerous crime of telling a narcissist that he's wrong.
Stand back.

alvey

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Sep 2, 2019, 4:00:21 AM9/2/19
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You're on fire Kermit!
First you get Stockholm Syndrome wrong and now here you hectoring someone
and blithering on about pre-Watergate, a period completely unrelated to
what the OP was referring to.


alvey

Dimensional Traveler

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Male bovine digestive end product.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Sep 3, 2019, 12:51:03 PM9/3/19
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On 9/1/2019 2:03 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>
> A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
> initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.
>

I don't think I've ever seen or heard of this movie before. It was made
years before I was born, so if it never aired as a rerun, I wouldn't have.

There are so many movies that I remember watching as a kid that haven't
aired in years. Nostalgia is a huge reason I buy so many cheesy old
movies from the 80s. At the time I loved them (or at least I remember
they exist), and I just want to be able to see them again.


danny burstein

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Sep 3, 2019, 2:20:07 PM9/3/19
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In <qkm5lk$v64$1...@dont-email.me> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> writes:

>On 9/1/2019 2:03 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>>
>> A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
>> initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.

>I don't think I've ever seen or heard of this movie before. It was made
>years before I was born, so if it never aired as a rerun, I wouldn't have.

Youtube to the rescue!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFrvOFw7nc

Adam H. Kerman

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Sep 3, 2019, 10:39:44 PM9/3/19
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With anim away, no one gets topical references.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lqnhA9d_B8

D.T., you have failed this newsgroup.

Ubiquitous

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Sep 4, 2019, 5:47:45 AM9/4/19
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In article <qkg1hr$qca$1...@dont-email.me>, a...@chinet.com wrote:

>I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>
> [...]
>
>The set piece, which I remember from watching it as a kid, is Lisa's
>murder. Alone in the lab, she's driven out of the lab by the computer
>turning off the lights. She's herded toward the elevator cab. The
>elevator stops between floors. The door slides open. She tries to crawl
>onto the floor above but it's a fatal trap as the elevator door closes
>and the cab descends, cutting her body in two.
>
>We see no blood or gore but it's really effective.

Our babysitter watched this after Star Trek and Ironsides.
Scarred. For. Life!

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Ubiquitous

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Sep 4, 2019, 5:49:45 AM9/4/19
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a...@chinet.com wrote:

>Getting back on topic, who remembers Paper Man?

I do, but I always think the title is Paper Moon.

Ubiquitous

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It's when a Calcium molecule collapses.
Very rare, but deadly.

Ubiquitous

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Sep 4, 2019, 7:41:55 AM9/4/19
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In article <qkmask$49p$1...@reader2.panix.com>, dan...@panix.com wrote:
>In <qkm5lk$v64$1...@dont-email.me> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> writes:
>> On 9/1/2019 2:03 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>> I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>>> A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
>>> initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.
>>
>>I don't think I've ever seen or heard of this movie before. It was made
>>years before I was born, so if it never aired as a rerun, I wouldn't have.
>
>Youtube to the rescue!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFrvOFw7nc

Thanks?

Ubiquitous

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In article <qkm5lk$v64$1...@dont-email.me>, art...@alum.calberkeley.org wrote:
>On 9/1/2019 2:03 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>> I was finally able to watch Paper Man!
>>
>> A few of us have discussed this obscure made-for-tv movie. It was
>> initially broadcast Friday, November 12, 1971, on CBS.
>
>I don't think I've ever seen or heard of this movie before. It was made
>years before I was born, so if it never aired as a rerun, I wouldn't have.

On further thought, I realized I always thought this movie was about a
computer-controlled building going amok and killing the in habitants.

Adam H. Kerman

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As you may recall, I had a great deal of trouble tracking down a copy of
this movie.

It's on Epix!

danny burstein

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May 19, 2020, 1:19:44 AM5/19/20
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Beware of stuck elevators!

Also, the lead actress in the film, Tina Chen, had
a great little piece playing against Max Von Sydow
in the movie "Six Days of the Condor".

Misc point: I'm pretty sure I actually saw this
in a movie theater in addition to the tv broadcast.

However, every writeup I've found in the past
couple of decades says I'm wrong. Oh well...

Oh.... it's on The YouTube:

poor quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFrvOFw7nc

Ian J. Ball

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May 19, 2020, 1:43:33 AM5/19/20
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Are you finding this in Epix OnDemand? Or perhaps in their app?

Because I'm scanning my cable guide for these titles you're mentioning,
and none of them are popping up...


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Adam H. Kerman

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Ian J. Ball <IJB...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>On 2020-05-19 05:05:31 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:

>>As you may recall, I had a great deal of trouble tracking down a copy of
>>this movie.

>>It's on Epix!

>Are you finding this in Epix OnDemand? Or perhaps in their app?

On Demand. There's also an Epix satellite channel that Comcast only
began carrying recently, but it's mostly usable as an On Demand
collection of movies.

I don't do streaming.

>Because I'm scanning my cable guide for these titles you're mentioning,
>and none of them are popping up...

The satellite channel isn't very good.

anim8rfsk

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Mon, 18 May 2020 23:33:23 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> Paper Man (1971) made-for-tv movie
> Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com>
> May 18, 2020 at 11:33:23 PM MST
>
> Ian J. Ball <IJB...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> > On 2020-05-19 05:05:31 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:
>
> > > As you may recall, I had a great deal of trouble tracking down a copy of
> > > this movie.
>
> > > It's on Epix!
>
> > Are you finding this in Epix OnDemand? Or perhaps in their app?
>
> On Demand. There's also an Epix satellite channel that Comcast only
> began carrying recently, but it's mostly usable as an On Demand
> collection of movies.
>
> I don't do streaming.

How does your OnDEMAND work? Because mine is streaming ...

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Adam H. Kerman

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anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>Mon, 18 May 2020 23:33:23 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Ian J. Ball <IJB...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>>On 2020-05-19 05:05:31 +0000, Adam H. Kerman said:

>>>>As you may recall, I had a great deal of trouble tracking down a copy of
>>>>this movie.

>>>>It's on Epix!

>>>Are you finding this in Epix OnDemand? Or perhaps in their app?

>>On Demand. There's also an Epix satellite channel that Comcast only
>>began carrying recently, but it's mostly usable as an On Demand
>>collection of movies.

>>I don't do streaming.

>How does your OnDEMAND work? Because mine is streaming ...

There's little technical difference between Switched Digital Video and
On Demand. The client is in the DVR, although I can't record to the DVR
because Comcast is off-the-wall stupid about these things. If On Demand
users recorded to DVR, it would save resources at the server side.

Client and server negotiate a channel which, these days, is encrypted.
As I've commented in the past, years ago, it was sent in clear QAM and I
could see what my neighbors had ordered On Demand.

I guess within the channel, it's streamed. I don't know how it works
beyond that beyond Comcast was too cheap to license MPEG-4 which is why
the Comcast picture sucks hugely.

I'm not using a client on my own computer so I'm not counting it as
streaming as Ian asked.
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